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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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November 12, 2023, 05:16:11 PM
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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.
It won't be so hard for brighton. Zerbi has been successfully fixing the problem in the brighton. Brighton has three points gap to the AEK.
As long as brighton will take full points in the upcoming game and i think that's enough to secure brighton's position at the top 16. The upcoming match is very hard to predict. brighton is still showing inconsistent performance.

The key owned by brighton to lock its spot to go to the next stage is quite big. I think that brighton will be doing it pretty well soon.
Zerbi is not willing to miss opportunity.

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November 12, 2023, 05:23:08 PM
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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

Brighton, since the last three seasons, are a team to watch. many teams know how they play, that makes them well-anticipated. lost their best players also affects them badly. De Zerbi is still working on settling their group of players while having different players to rely on.

I think Brighton will win against Ajax. beside Ajax are on a bad form, Brighton love to play against teams that play open football like Ajax. Brighton can get good results against teams who play intense pressing, but they struggle against teams that play with deep defense. Ajax in the league so far have just won 3 games, that's so bad for a them. and Brighton are 8th on Premier League table, but they haven't won in the last 5 games.  

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November 12, 2023, 05:27:22 PM
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Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.

Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.

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November 12, 2023, 05:37:16 PM
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Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.
Brighton's performance has improved after losing to AEK Athens. Brighton drew against Maseille and they managed to take 6 points from Ajax both away and at home. Brighton will certainly hope to avenge their defeat against AEK Athens in the next match to ensure they qualify for the next round, but a draw in the next 2 matches will not harm them either.

Brighton must win one of the next two matches between AEK Athens or Marseille. AEK Athens also couldn't win the match against Brighton and repeat its success like the first meeting, but I believe Brighton has learned a lot from that defeat at home.

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November 12, 2023, 07:22:33 PM
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The result of the match will not affect Liverpool's chances of winning the group because they have collected nine points. This defeat provides an opportunity for Toulouse to catch up on Liverpool's points in the remaining matches and if Liverpool are careless again like when they faced Toulouse then they might fail to win the group. However, I think this will be a special consideration for Jurgen Klopp and he will definitely try to evaluate this match so that it doesn't happen again in the remaining matches.

Having players who are much more capable should be a good asset for Liverpool to achieve victory. But if you look at the match Liverpool had difficulty developing their game and a number of opportunities were still poor in the final finish. Only in the 70th minute did they start to show their usual rhythm of play, but unfortunately until the match ended they failed to add a goal because Toulouse players were solid in defense.
Liverpool had a really physical fixture over the weekend the reason for them resting some players During the week against the French Side, I think this has made the group kind of open for Toulouse because they’ll need to secure all 3 points in their coming 2 fixtures to secure top spot in the group, Liverpool been a big European team would want that top spot and Head Coach, Klopp is a tactical genius and know the right changes to make to the starting line up againt Toulouse.

 Liverpool have some good quality players who have proven not just their form but name also over a period of time, Jurgen would know how to balance this team so as to avoid this kind of mistake next time because it might be pretty costly, however I'm pretty sure they would qualify for the next round and go far in the tournament.

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November 12, 2023, 08:27:57 PM
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Brighton is slowly but surely playing better than before. You can see how brighton was climbing up so fast after it was getting two wins in a row. Brighton needs to get another win to lock a spot to the top 16.

Brighton's performance is unpredictable. but overall their play has improved from last season. Brighton held Marseille to a draw but lost to AEK Athens. These are just the results of the matches against AEK Athens and Marseille. If Brighton can overcome both of them, it can ensure a ticket to qualify for the next round. but in my opinion, there is a chance that Brighton can get a ticket for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, Brighton now seems to be experiencing a decline in performance. we can see the results of the last few matches which I think were bad for Brighton. but hopefully, they can perform optimally in the European League.

The pressure that comes with European Competition haven't been well handled by Brighton Coach and the players. They're a different Brighton this season unlike last season.
Today they have failed to win after winning Ajax in the European Competitions in the Europa League.
They have always played both sides scoring when they play at home this season. That was also sloppy defending.

The squad rotation didn't work for Liverpool coach, even if they equalized finally and saw it cancelled they shouldn't have won that game.
This noon against Brentford was great. Mo Salah had to double to seal the game, Jota also scored impressively.

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November 12, 2023, 08:44:58 PM
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Liverpool have some good quality players who have proven not just their form but name also over a period of time, Jurgen would know how to balance this team so as to avoid this kind of mistake next time because it might be pretty costly, however I'm pretty sure they would qualify for the next round and go far in the tournament.
You're right. Liverpool has quality players in their squad, that's why they become one of the favorite teams to win this competition. Jurgen Klopp must realize it so much, but it was surprising when they got a defeat against Toulouse. Yes, it was a mistake, they shouldn't be defeated by a small team like Toulouse. I saw some unpopular players on the lineup of Liverpool at that time. However, Liverpool still leads the group E and it seems not to lessen the chance of Liverpool to qualify for the next round. Let's hope Jurgen Klopp will be more careful to decide anything in the next matches.


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The games against Ajax were a big opportunity for Brighton to make up for their bad results in the group before. However I still can't be sure of them when it comes to being assertive for the Europa League title. They were considered as one of the top title contenders by bookmakers before the tournament started.

But now we see that they are quite an unbalanced team. Maybe they will be likely to move on to next round but it is very difficult for them to be more successful with this inconsistency. They are even worse in the Premier League recently as they couldn't win a game for a long time.

To be honest, in the Europa League competition I was not the same even though I watched every Ajax match.
IMO, it seems that Marseille and Brighton have a big chance of qualifying for the next phase. the only difference is which team has a ticket to the round of 16, and which team has to go through the playoff phase first. which means, if these two teams, Marseille and Brighton, win their match, these two teams will determine the final meeting of the group B phase.

So, now we review the Ajax side. This team from the Eredivisie league has experienced a significant decline in performance. Not only did they not win a single match in the Europa League, but they also experienced a decline in performance in their domestic league. I don't know much about the Eredivisie competition, or am more looking for information related to Ajax. but what is certain is that many of their players left in the last summer window. and I think that's what caused Ajax to experience a decline in performance. As for the newcomers, maybe they need a process or are not as good as the previous players. and as we can see, it seems they have no chance of qualifying for the next phase.

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November 12, 2023, 11:20:46 PM
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The pressure that comes with European Competition haven't been well handled by Brighton Coach and the players. They're a different Brighton this season unlike last season.
If the coach still can't handle it well, it is probably because Brighton coach still has a lack experience in this competition. But I think they are quite successful in Europa League so far, they could stay in the second place. Brighton seems to qualify for the next round as the runner up of group B.

Today they have failed to win after winning Ajax in the European Competitions in the Europa League.
They have always played both sides scoring when they play at home this season. That was also sloppy defending.
Do you refer to the EPL match against Sheffield United?
I think EPL match has nothing to do with Europa League competition.
If they failed in EPL match, it seems they are not preparing well for the match.
For the matches in Europa League. They are quite successful, they won 2 matches, 1 draw, and 1 lose only.


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November 13, 2023, 08:30:11 AM
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As for the newcomers, maybe they need a process or are not as good as the previous players. and as we can see, it seems they have no chance of qualifying for the next phase.

No one can say they (Ajax) will create a miracle and qualify for the round of 16. It was mission impossible. In fact, I can say that Ajax's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are over. Marseille has the opportunity to win the Group. Meanwhile, Brughton and AEK AThens still have a chance to get second place. Although Brighton is far more favored to qualify for the next round.

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November 13, 2023, 08:42:53 AM
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No one can say they (Ajax) will create a miracle and qualify for the round of 16. It was mission impossible. In fact, I can say that Ajax's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are over. Marseille has the opportunity to win the Group. Meanwhile, Brughton and AEK AThens still have a chance to get second place. Although Brighton is far more favored to qualify for the next round.
Brighton has been gradually improving because earlier their form seem very inconsistent as thy had some mixture of wins and losses in their domestic League, they didn't seem like they were in their best form at the start of the season but they are now slowly becoming better.

They (Brighton) still have a chance to qualify pass the group stage of the Europa league but then making it pass the round of sixteen is something they will further have to work hard to get, because this season they Europa have gat some very good teams who are well inform such as Leverkusen who is making Waves in the bundesliga which happens to be very competitive this season, so Brighton have to be better than they are currently.

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November 13, 2023, 09:00:30 AM
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Today they have failed to win after winning Ajax in the European Competitions in the Europa League.
They have always played both sides scoring when they play at home this season. That was also sloppy defending.
Do you refer to the EPL match against Sheffield United?
I think EPL match has nothing to do with Europa League competition.
If they failed in EPL match, it seems they are not preparing well for the match.
For the matches in Europa League. They are quite successful, they won 2 matches, 1 draw, and 1 lose only.
matches in the domestic league will not be a benchmark to see how genuine Brighton performance is in the european league, but we all know that it is very different because if a team has matches scheduled in other competitions, usually the team will save a little energy so as not to be too strong. compete in the domestic league and focus more on other competitions to win prestigious titles such as the current european league.
and for me currently Brighton performance is very good even though they are runners up in group B but the difference in points with Marseille is very thin and Brighton still has the opportunity to lead in group B because there are still 2 matches left to come.

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November 13, 2023, 09:35:20 AM
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Liverpool have some good quality players who have proven not just their form but name also over a period of time, Jurgen would know how to balance this team so as to avoid this kind of mistake next time because it might be pretty costly, however I'm pretty sure they would qualify for the next round and go far in the tournament.
You're right. Liverpool has quality players in their squad, that's why they become one of the favorite teams to win this competition. Jurgen Klopp must realize it so much, but it was surprising when they got a defeat against Toulouse. Yes, it was a mistake, they shouldn't be defeated by a small team like Toulouse. I saw some unpopular players on the lineup of Liverpool at that time. However, Liverpool still leads the group E and it seems not to lessen the chance of Liverpool to qualify for the next round. Let's hope Jurgen Klopp will be more careful to decide anything in the next matches.


This was Liverpool's first mistake and defeat in the European League and in my opinion Jurgen Kloop will immediately improve their team's performance to appear more consistent in the next match in the European League. I am sure that in the remaining matches Liverpool will be better and able to improve the performance of the players and not repeat the mistake.

Liverpool still leads group E and I'm sure Liverpool will definitely qualify for the next round because Liverpool's opponents in the remaining 2 matches are not very difficult opponents, but in the last match Liverpool will play away against Royale so that the incident against Touluse doesn't happen again, the hosts will definitely be superior. take action so Liverpool have to make good use of the remaining two matches so that Touluse doesn't take over first place, currently it seems that Touluse is trying to take Liverpool's position if Liverpool is even a little careless then Touluse can occupy it therefore Liverpool have to be more careful in the remaining matches.

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November 13, 2023, 11:00:19 AM
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As for the newcomers, maybe they need a process or are not as good as the previous players. and as we can see, it seems they have no chance of qualifying for the next phase.

No one can say they (Ajax) will create a miracle and qualify for the round of 16. It was mission impossible. In fact, I can say that Ajax's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are over. Marseille has the opportunity to win the Group. Meanwhile, Brughton and AEK AThens still have a chance to get second place. Although Brighton is far more favored to qualify for the next round.
You are right that Ajax's chances in the European league are over because they haven't produced anything good so far, even in the domestic league they have performed no less badly in 11 matches only managing to win 3x, so overall Ajax has really declined compared to several seasons ago.
Other teams that also no longer have a chance to qualify are Topola, Aris Limassol, Rakow Czestochowa, Maccabi Haifa, Sheriff, and Hacken, but Ajax has better statistics in European competitions than these teams so what happened to them is quite surprising, seeing how weak they are currently with only getting 2 points from four matches.
By no longer having opportunities, perhaps Ajax will no longer play with full strength in the European league because they will concentrate more on improving their ranking in the domestic league so that the team that will face Ajax in the next two matches will have a little easier match to win.

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November 13, 2023, 11:58:22 AM
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Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16

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November 13, 2023, 12:59:39 PM
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As for the newcomers, maybe they need a process or are not as good as the previous players. and as we can see, it seems they have no chance of qualifying for the next phase.

No one can say they (Ajax) will create a miracle and qualify for the round of 16. It was mission impossible. In fact, I can say that Ajax's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are over. Marseille has the opportunity to win the Group. Meanwhile, Brughton and AEK AThens still have a chance to get second place. Although Brighton is far more favored to qualify for the next round.
You are right that Ajax's chances in the European league are over because they haven't produced anything good so far, even in the domestic league they have performed no less badly in 11 matches only managing to win 3x, so overall Ajax has really declined compared to several seasons ago.
Other teams that also no longer have a chance to qualify are Topola, Aris Limassol, Rakow Czestochowa, Maccabi Haifa, Sheriff, and Hacken, but Ajax has better statistics in European competitions than these teams so what happened to them is quite surprising, seeing how weak they are currently with only getting 2 points from four matches.
By no longer having opportunities, perhaps Ajax will no longer play with full strength in the European league because they will concentrate more on improving their ranking in the domestic league so that the team that will face Ajax in the next two matches will have a little easier match to win.

This season was probably the worst that Ajax Amsterdam is going through. I thought that after their two wins in the league this could be the moment where they can turn everything around, but it isn't happening. The loss against Brighton and now also the draw against Almere in the last minute of the game is another setback instead of a turnaround. I believe that this season will have consequences for several more seasons. Usually Ajax is a real talent factory, but when they don't play in the Champions League, they are no as attractive anymore for young players.

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November 13, 2023, 03:55:45 PM
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This season was probably the worst that Ajax Amsterdam is going through. I thought that after their two wins in the league this could be the moment where they can turn everything around, but it isn't happening. The loss against Brighton and now also the draw against Almere in the last minute of the game is another setback instead of a turnaround. I believe that this season will have consequences for several more seasons. Usually Ajax is a real talent factory, but when they don't play in the Champions League, they are no as attractive anymore for young players.
They shouldn't be too heavy on themselves, to be fair everyone has bad years, and that could happen. The idea is simple, Brighton is having a wonderful year right? They are doing great, and they did quite great last year as well, so they are on the rise, and Ajax on the other hand is doing terrible, right? They are not doing all that great and their results are unsatisfactory.

So the question is simple, in five years, do you see Ajax being better than Brighton? I can see that for sure, and that is the important part. Consistency is the key in sports, and a team that is consistently good, could always have bad years, and a team that rarely ever does good, could end up having a blast season. We will see Brighton get worse, and Ajax get better.

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November 13, 2023, 05:20:49 PM
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Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16

However, if I consider the group as a whole, the fact is that Marseille and Bayer Leverkusen also still unbeaten so far. Also even greater is about Bayer Leverkusen, because Bayer Leverkusen managed to win in all matches, while Atalanta had one draw and Marseille had two draws. So ya, with those who have managed to go undefeated so far, then of course they are certain to qualify for the next round. But regarding Atalanta, at least at this moment Atalanta is still in the top five in the Serie A standings. Therefore, I think Atalanta so far this season still looks fine in Serie A and also in the Europa League because Atalanta can still be in good position at the moment.

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November 13, 2023, 05:52:35 PM
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The defeat was not a disaster for Liverpool because Jurgen Klopp had other focuses so he chose to play his reserve players, because winning the English Premier League match is currently much more important than winning all the matches in the European League group phase because they only need one win and with two matches remaining quite confident that Liverpool will be able to achieve one win to secure a place in the knockout rounds.
After many years as a coach, Klopp is experienced enough to know at the end of a season, titles mean much. How many matches a team won in a season does not make too much sense if no title at the end. He knows that to go far in a long season, he must use his players very smartly to help them reserve their feet, avoid injuries and have as best fitness as possible when a season comes to its ending and at toughest time.

One defeat always brings some negative feeling, disappointment but at the season ending, if Liverpool can lift the Europa Cup trophy or Premier League trophy, their fans will be very happy and today defeat will be forgotten.

I think this is true about Klopp and he understands that it doesn't matter whether he plays a six win group stage with his team or not, the only thing that matters is that they get through the group stage in first place if possible and then keep going and go for the title. This won't really affect them and I also think they have played good enough to win it, they had the chances also dominated most of the game, but Toulouse was on the lucky side of things in that game and turned their chances into goals in the right moments.

Klopp doesn't really care about the result from the group stage as long as liverpool has been qualified for the next stage. It was surprising many people caused by liverpool was losing against a mediocre club and i was sure even after i aware if liverpool was not using the main squad. I must confess that while Liverpool's first team is incredibly strong, the outcome against Toulouse made me ponder over the poor performance of Liverpool's backup squad. Liverpool was not playing seriously against toulouse. It was disappointing many betters who have expected to get easy money from liverpool.
People shall never truy to bet on a club that has been securing a spot for the upcoming stage.



But this isn't fully true. It would be more exact to say that they are in a good position, but they are not qualified for the next round yet. In fact it could become unnecessarily close when they were to lose the next game in the Europa League. it is not likely, but saying that they have passed the group stage is wrong.

Since the next game is against the underdog I think Liverpool will finish the group stage in that game, but their goal should be to win the group as that helps them avoiding some of the bigger names in the next round. That is still an important goal that should be obtained.

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November 13, 2023, 06:06:46 PM
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Atalanta performance in this competition was much better compared to their performance in Serie A this because Atalanta has good records for group stage and so far only them is the team who still unbeatable in the last 4 matches on group D and this results also makes Atalanta can able to occupy first place on group standings and their chances to qualified was very high because for the next match against Sporting i think Atalanta only needed to gets at least draw result but first met from these teams looks good for Atalanta because they can able to beat Sporting and not impossible for 5th matches Atalanta can repeat that result again and if Atalanta can able to overcomes Sporting then they will ended group stage as champion group and automatically advances to round of 16

Atalanta and Sporting Lisbon are the two competitive clubs in their group and is obvious that the both teams will qualify for the next round so whichever way it is i dont think if it will affect anyone of them should one lose to the other but however, Atalanta needs to win or draw in other to be confident about their qualification to the next round.

The both clubs have performed excellently well so far despite Atalanta not being too in-form in their league but for them to give more of their energy in the Europa league might really mean that they are up to something good.

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