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Question: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season Winner?  (Voting closed: September 30, 2023, 07:23:36 AM)
Sevilla (if they go down from UCL) - 6 (33.3%)
Other team coming from UCL - 2 (11.1%)
Liverpool - 8 (44.4%)
Roma - 0 (0%)
Villarreal - 1 (5.6%)
Marseille - 0 (0%)
Sporting - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (5.6%)
Total Voters: 18

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November 03, 2023, 08:21:20 AM
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It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.

I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.
The opportunity to participate in the Europa League is significantly greater when compared to the chances of qualifying for the UCL knock out stage, but it is not an impossible feat given that Sevilla has remained undefeated in this group so far. There are still some matches remaining at this moment. I think that sevilla will able to make it soon.
The king of europa league is trying its luck to play in the UCL to get some money. The club is really need money at this moment and no reason for sevilla to go back to the europa league agani after it was winning its trophy last season.

I don't know why many people are feeling so happy if sevilla goes back again to the europa league. Is not it bad for other club who played in europa league? Sevilla needs to give chance to the other club to win europa league.

Sevilla are currently in the third position of the group B in the UEFA Champions League competition and are currently three points behind second placed Lens. They play their next game at home to PSV which I think they stand a better chance of winning the game to still maintain the third place position. Sevilla's overall performance this season has been below average and that's why I don't think they'll do well if they happen to progress to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition.
So if they can hang on and finish in the third place which automatically qualifies them to the knockout stages of the UEFA Europa League , there's every possiblity of the the competition which they're are the most successful club in.

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November 03, 2023, 10:11:47 AM
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Away games always make a huge difference and that applies to games in the Europa League and Champions League much more than it does to games in the respective national leagues. The fan support of the home teams is overwhelmingly stronger because of all the travel aches and strains, depending on how far the fans would have to go of course. I also think that the quota for tickets available to international fans is relatively low? I could be wrong on this one, but I think for games in the domestic leagues the quota for the opponent's fans is higher than it is for games in the Europa League.

If we only look at the tables, one could think that the game against Ajax should be an easy one for Brighton, but I am far from thinking that way. It is still Ajax Amsterdam in their own stadium and that always means hard work to do for any opponent.
Of course, matches at home will be superior in facing every difficult match, whether in the domestic league, European league or Champions League, but matches at home are not a benchmark if you don't have a strong and capable squad depth. We all know that the Premier League is a collection of clubs. which is quite difficult to beat, indeed this match is very meaningful for Ajax, but if you look at it in terms of performance, I think Brighton performance is much better when compared to Ajax in terms of squad, although Ajax will play at home, but that wasn't enough for him to win against Brighton but it is possible that Ajax will maximize the draw.

But look, does it really make sense to compare performances of two teams across different leagues? What does it tell you when hypothetically PSV Eindhoven faces Manchester City next week? PSV Eindhoven has a perfect 10/10 games and wins record and scores 3.5 goals per game while conceding 0.5 goals per game. Manchester City's record is worse than that by far, so is the conclusion that PSV would beat Manchester City?

Also, the Europa League is neither the Eredivisie nor the Premier League. It could be observed many times now that teams did play weak in the league and strong in the Europa League in this example.

This brings me to a nice offer: is anyone willing to take a little bet against me for 20 USD that Brighton will not win the game? I say Brighton won't win. Smiley

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November 03, 2023, 10:23:10 AM
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I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.
I don't think this season Sevilla will be having such opportunity again as against they caliber of teams that are participating in the Europa this season, they have the like of Liverpool, Leverkusen and the rest all in their good forms so history will take a different shape this time.

Sevilla may try to get pass the group stage but I don't see them getting to the finals to compete for the league title, especially with the fact that klop wants to make sure he seize this opportunity before him as it appears as one he could utilize, he is not participating in the UCL this season so he has got enough time to work towards getting this dream of his come through as it's one trophy he is yet to lift while in Liverpool so I don't think he will leave a chance to Sevilla this season maybe Sevilla can continue the history by next season.

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November 03, 2023, 11:05:37 AM
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We don't even know yet whether Sevilla would continue on their journey in the Europa League. But they are quite likely on one hand. If they get to the Europa League once again then my favourite contender for the title would definitely be them honestly. Because they have really been the most successful team in the Europa League for a long time.

I know there are teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma as other strongest contenders as well. Especially Liverpool would be the biggest threat to Sevilla in that case. But experience makes a big difference as we saw it from Sevilla previously in this tournament.

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November 03, 2023, 12:20:17 PM
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I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.
It seems difficult, but don't you consider that Sevilla still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16 this season?
Sevilla are kings in the Europa League, of course because they always win the title every time they reach the final. It's almost the same as Real Madrid in the Champions League final, when they get to the final then they will most likely win it.
People were picking sevilla as the strongest team to win the europa league but they forget that if we have liverpool now. Liverpool was also able performing so well int he europa league as well. This club is even far better compared with sevilla at this moment. I think that the chance owned by liverpool to win the trophy is far greater compared with sevilla. Im all in liverpool to win europa league even though i don't know yet what clubs will come from UCl.


Liverpool are one of the favorites in the Europa League this season, but Roma, Atalanta and Leverkusen also seem to have a good chance. Several teams that will fall out of the Champions League can also be favourites, especially Sevilla, Manchester United, Newcastle or Dortmund if they fail.
It looks like people forgot that if there was a 6 times UCL winner in europa league this season. Liverpool is far better than sevilla. Sevilla does win europa league 7 times but liverpool has better quality and more UCL trophies than sevilla.
The chance owned by liverpool is far bigger than sevilla. I don't even think bookies will not be favoring liverpool to win the title this season.

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November 03, 2023, 01:26:59 PM
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Sevilla is in third place in Group B in the Champions League with 2 points even though they still have 3 matches left. Maybe Sevilla will no longer be serious there and try to stay in 3rd place so they can go down to the Europa League.
Liverpool are not too worried about the opponents they will face, including Sevilla. Sevilla's strength is not as good as Liverpool and Bayern Leverkusen at the moment.
Talking about Sevilla as if they will easily win the Europa League again if they fail to qualify from the group in the Champions League.

Already I know that's the game plan of sevilla since they know that they perform better in the Europa league so they would rather prefer to go and play in the Europa league, they are always good whenever they are in the Europa league than champions league and I believe if they move to the Europa league they are really gonna do well so instead of reaching the round of 16 in champions league and not moving further they had rather be in Europa where they are conversant with and play to the best of their ability.
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.
This season, Sevilla seems to be purposely going in the same direction as last year, trying to finish in third place and move on to the Europa League. They are clearly the best because they have seven trophies, but I am very suspicious. The fact that they are in UCL group B means that they can aim for more. Its beyond me why people are excited about the possibility of them going back to the Europa League. Insufferable for other teams that want to win, right? Strongly believe that Sevilla needs to rethink its approach and not just stick to what it knows. Competition is tough, especially from Liverpool, and Im worried about their road.

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November 03, 2023, 01:41:49 PM
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We don't even know yet whether Sevilla would continue on their journey in the Europa League. But they are quite likely on one hand. If they get to the Europa League once again then my favourite contender for the title would definitely be them honestly. Because they have really been the most successful team in the Europa League for a long time.

I know there are teams like Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma as other strongest contenders as well. Especially Liverpool would be the biggest threat to Sevilla in that case. But experience makes a big difference as we saw it from Sevilla previously in this tournament.

Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?

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November 03, 2023, 02:37:21 PM
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Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
It's because of psychology.

People always forecast anything base on the history, so they think Real Madrid is the strongest team in UCL and Sevilla is the strongest team in UEL. The luck that those teams have in the past seasons make they think Real Madrid and Sevilla will have a same luck in the future.

It's correct a new strong team might challenge them, but not every time.

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November 03, 2023, 04:21:36 PM
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It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.

I can say that Sevilla is the king of the UEFA European League. They have won seven trophies in the UEFA European League. They are always favorites to win and they often advance to the final round. It's just that this year I feel Liverpool is a strong candidate to win this championship. Sevilla's chances of qualifying from group B are a little difficult because they are currently in 3rd place in the standings.

But in reality, basically last season Sevilla were not completely favorites towin the Europa League final. Because ya, considering that last season Sevilla experienced bad results in La Liga, so with that factor basically last season Sevilla were not completely favourites. But the bad thing is, this season Sevilla is still not as good as expected, because Sevilla is also inconsistent again in La Liga and also in the Champions League which looks like Sevilla will repeat to finish in third place. But ya, at least the competition is still continuing and maybe, this season Sevilla will try to become group runners up in the Champions League. Because ya, if that happens then Sevilla will not play in the Europa League this season, because any result of course still has a chance of happening.

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November 03, 2023, 04:26:24 PM
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Leverkusen, and Liverpool's Europa League qualification has been a problem for other teams. Liverpool is always a champion league team and Liverpool is also a strong team in English Premier League but they have qualified for Europa League this season so it is a bit difficult for other Europa League teams to plan against Liverpool. Leverkusen, and Liverpool may qualify for the Champions League next season but the other teams will miss out on winning the Europa League this season as either Liverpool won the Europa League trophy this season or Leverkusen does. Comparing the two teams, I see Liverpool more likely to win the Europa League tournament title this season.

Liverpool indeed belong to the Champions League normally. But their performance in the Premier League wasn't impressive last season. It was quite late when they started to make improvement and they ended up with the Europa League afterwards. Currently they are in good shape unlike that season.

Their priority would be to be competitive for the Premier League title of course. However I still don't expect them to have any concentration issues in the Europa League either.

They have a good opportunity ahead to win a title so I think they would go for it. Klopp would do some rotation from time to time to deal with a tight schedule but they would still stay strong I believe.
Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League this season has not been too bad for them as they are dreaming of winning the Europa League title as they miss out on the Champions League. Even if Liverpool qualified for the Champions League this season, they could not do much in the Champions League because there are already tough opponents in the Champions League that Liverpool could not do much by fighting against tough opponents. Liverpool qualified for the Europa League for the first time this season and are heavy favorites to win the Europa League tournament for the first time this season. Liverpool will certainly not want to miss the opportunity to achieve something new. Liverpool's current team is in good form, so Liverpool will certainly want to take advantage of that opportunity to take home the Europa League tournament title for the first time.

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November 03, 2023, 05:00:49 PM
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Already I know that's the game plan of sevilla since they know that they perform better in the Europa league so they would rather prefer to go and play in the Europa league, they are always good whenever they are in the Europa league than champions league and I believe if they move to the Europa league they are really gonna do well so instead of reaching the round of 16 in champions league and not moving further they had rather be in Europa where they are conversant with and play to the best of their ability.
It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.
Every one talking about Sevilla and their plan for the another UEFA Europa Cup with I am also having same feeling but many times things can go into wrong way for any team because every time we have desired result it's never been possible.

This year we have few impressive teams into Europa Cup which can change the history as well with Sevilla is surely having not ideal squad as well because they are facing financial issues, and they are surely in deep trouble which can make things worst for their desire of another cup.

Right now, three top teams are at their best and after exit from Champions League who is going to join them another point which will give clear picture about this season's winner in this prestigious winner.

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November 03, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
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Real Madrid is the most successful team in the Champions League and they got humiliated by Manchester City last season. To me it seems that the achievements from the past don't help you a whole lot when you are playing new games. Sevilla has won it last season and that is fine, but how does that raise their chance or make them the favorite this season? My guess is that they may not even make it into the Europa League, but if they do wouldn't it be short-sighted to think that they are the favorite because of the title they won last year? They have a Champions League group that they should survive against PSV and Lens, but probably they don't. That's proof enough that they would not be the favorite in a competition where Liverpool and Leverkusen are playing. If they can't beat PSV or Lens, why would they be favorite against Liverpool or Leverkusen?
It's because of psychology.

People always forecast anything base on the history, so they think Real Madrid is the strongest team in UCL and Sevilla is the strongest team in UEL. The luck that those teams have in the past seasons make they think Real Madrid and Sevilla will have a same luck in the future.

It's correct a new strong team might challenge them, but not every time.

That's what I think as well, but it's bad that people draw these weak conclusions. Experience plays a role and that is why teams who have won a title before can indeed have some kind of resistance in difficult situations during a game that other, unexperienced teams might not have. But all of that is worth nothing when you get destroyed by a team that is simply better like we have seen in the Champions League. Sevilla had a remarkable Europa League season, but they won't repeat it. Nominating them as the favorite if they get eliminated from the Champions League seems irrational to me.

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November 03, 2023, 05:42:11 PM
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Sevilla are currently in the third position of the group B in the UEFA Champions League competition and are currently three points behind second placed Lens. They play their next game at home to PSV which I think they stand a better chance of winning the game to still maintain the third place position. Sevilla's overall performance this season has been below average and that's why I don't think they'll do well if they happen to progress to the knockout stages of the UEFA Champions League competition.
So if they can hang on and finish in the third place which automatically qualifies them to the knockout stages of the UEFA Europa League , there's every possiblity of the the competition which they're are the most successful club in.
That is what they do to keep their fans happy basically. They are not good enough to win the title at La Liga because there are teams like Real Madrid and Barcelona, and if not them then Athletico Madrid, so Sevilla could only hope for a fourth place and by the looks of it they haven't done that in a long time neither, they gave up on the league long time ago and doesn't seem like it is doing all that greatly. I feel like the best thing we could guess right now would be just let them be, and just hope that it could kick in whenever.

I think it is going to be a hard process for them to finish third, but if they can manage to do that then it is very well possible that they could end up with a situation where they would keep the fans happy by going further. Not saying they will be able to win europa this season too, but they could at least do quarter finals, semi finals or something, even losing at finals is something. That makes them say "we did something this year at least" to the fans.
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November 03, 2023, 06:25:15 PM
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Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League this season has not been too bad for them as they are dreaming of winning the Europa League title as they miss out on the Champions League. Even if Liverpool qualified for the Champions League this season, they could not do much in the Champions League because there are already tough opponents in the Champions League that Liverpool could not do much by fighting against tough opponents. Liverpool qualified for the Europa League for the first time this season and are heavy favorites to win the Europa League tournament for the first time this season. Liverpool will certainly not want to miss the opportunity to achieve something new. Liverpool's current team is in good form, so Liverpool will certainly want to take advantage of that opportunity to take home the Europa League tournament title for the first time.
If Liverpool had qualified for the champions league, they wouldn't do poorly, because their current form is such that they would be able to face tough teams regardless because even in the premier league they aswell face tough teams such as Manchester city and others.

They are doing really well in the premier league as they are at the fourth position on the table. They have lost only one game so far in the premier league and have lost none in the Europa so they are definitely not a weak side and will do well if they had qualified for the UCL but hopefully they will next season but for now I think they are more focused on the Europa where they have more chances than in the premier league, klop is definitely doing all he could to win the Europa as last time he was very close but lost that opportunity and wouldn't do same with this.

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November 03, 2023, 07:51:24 PM
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Ajax will probably lose to Brighton once again no matter they play a home match. They shouldn't divide their concentration on the Eredivisie and Europa League right now. They don't have the luxury of doing that. Because they are even near the relegation area in the Eredivisie. They can't risk their future in the league.

Ajax are a mess now and trying to get rid of this situation. There is a huge difference between Erik ten Hag era and this one. I guess it wouldn't come to their relegation from their domestic league. However they had better create a solution as soon as possible.

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November 03, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
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Ajax will probably lose to Brighton once again no matter they play a home match. They shouldn't divide their concentration on the Eredivisie and Europa League right now. They don't have the luxury of doing that. Because they are even near the relegation area in the Eredivisie. They can't risk their future in the league.

Ajax are a mess now and trying to get rid of this situation. There is a huge difference between Erik ten Hag era and this one. I guess it wouldn't come to their relegation from their domestic league. However they had better create a solution as soon as possible.
After being at the bottom of the Eredivisie standings last week, this time Ajax won for the second time in the 9 matches they played, collecting 8 points and now they are in 15th position in the standings. I think it would be better for them to focus more on winning at domestic level, because I really doubt they will qualify for the round of 16 from group B. Marseille and brighton are the strongest candidates to qualify, although AEK athens could make a surprise.

There may be a lot of questions regarding ajax performance this season, the difference in their performance is very clear from last season. The victory over volendam must be a turning point in their performance, if they don't want the situation to get even worse in the next match.

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November 03, 2023, 08:24:20 PM
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It seems so. Sevilla has the same plan like last season, they stay in 3rd place and return to play in the Europa League. That's right. In the Europa league they have a good performance, their historical record is not doubt at all, if they can get another trophy that would be a truly extraordinary achievement. But maybe Sevilla plan will not be that smooth, because this season we see that Liverpool, Leverkusen and Roma which are will not let Sevilla win the title again. But yes, Sevilla is likely to perform very well in this event rather than play in UCL.

However, it seems that this plan will not be easy for Sevilla to carry out. Maintaining third place in the Champions League group phase is not easy, especially if Sevilla falls when they host Arsenal on the fourth matchday. especially if PSV is able to overthrow Lens in the same disat. The drama in the Group B phase is quite unique. Likewise Lens, who definitely wants to win their match against PSV.

On the other hand, PSV will go all out to win the match. because after all, the condition of these three teams is not any better. So, it's not certain that Sevilla will get a ticket to the Europa League. It could be that another team has more rights than Sevilla. After all, we still don't know the end of the Champions League group stage.
However, Sevilla has a historical record in this competition. Apart from that, the problem is that Sevilla is really underperforming. Previously, Mendilibar was really lucky to be able to win the Europa League trophy even though in fact, their performance was really not ideal for me personally. The question is, can their new coach Diego Alonso make it happen. Well, we'll find out after the Champions League group phase is over.

Talking about the other three teams you mentioned, especially Liverpool and Leverkusen. This team is now very different, even with the team squad. even based on the performance of these teams, it is the opposite of Sevilla. We'll see the point, because it's not certain that Sevilla will be as lucky as last season.

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November 03, 2023, 08:43:12 PM
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After being at the bottom of the Eredivisie standings last week, this time Ajax won for the second time in the 9 matches they played, collecting 8 points and now they are in 15th position in the standings. I think it would be better for them to focus more on winning at domestic level, because I really doubt they will qualify for the round of 16 from group B. Marseille and brighton are the strongest candidates to qualify, although AEK athens could make a surprise.
In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.

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November 03, 2023, 09:00:19 PM
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In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.

It's not time for AJax to ignore their chances in the Europa League, even if they only have 2 points from 3 matches. Ajax still has hopes of qualifying for the next round even though Marseille, AEK Athens and Brighton are currently ahead on points. Everything can change quickly, especially if Ajax is able to improve the quality of its game in the next 3 matches.

In group F, Villareal, who represents La Liga, also still has a chance of winning a ticket to the next round even though they are currently in 3rd position. The difference in points between second and third place is not much, so I still think they shouldn't lose focus so quickly to hoping to qualify for the next round.

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November 03, 2023, 09:56:26 PM
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In group B of the Europa League, Ajax is also not that good so it would be better for Ajax to take one competition to focus on from now on. In the Eredivisie, Ajax has now saved itself from being in the relegation zone, so Ajax needs to add greater focus so that it can get a better position than now and if Ajax can make a more interesting surprise in the three remaining matches for the group phase in the Europa League this season, it will also be quite good for them although there is no guarantee for Ajax to last too long in the Europa League this season.
If Ajax is able to get pass the group stage with their current form I think they will deserve to be applauded, thy have so far won only one game in the eredivisie, they were really struggling to come out of relegation as it became their primary obligation at the moment.

I hope Ajax improves well enough after the win the just got over the week,so far in the Europa they have not been really good aswell, although they have lost only one out of the three game played so far, they have won non too, which I don't see as an encouraging result well enough. I doubt if they will be able to win the next three matches they have to play just before the group stage will be over, and if they fail to win these three remaining matches, they are definitely crashing out at the group stage, we hope they improve soonest.

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