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November 22, 2023, 03:26:42 PM
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Teams like Leverkusen and Liverpool are fighting for the Bundesliga and Premier League titles. And the main goal for these two teams is to win the Bundesliga and Premier League titles. They will try to do well in the Europa League, but only after maintaining consistency in the Bundesliga and Premier League. The main contenders for the Europa League title are teams like Roma and Sevilla. Who have no chance of winning their own league title. Last season we saw big teams like Barcelona do very poorly in the Europa League. Basically, the big teams have no interest in winning the Europa League title. And so we are not sure whether Leverkusen and Liverpool teams will win the Europa League title. But if they give their full effort in the Europa League, they have a chance to win the championship.

Those teams don't have any order for their competitions whatsoever. The fact that the Bundesliga and the Premier League is their main business is because it is their main business. But nobody from those clubs provides a ranking as to how much effort should be put into any of those competitions. Ask them whether they want to win the Europa League and the domestic league titles. They will answer that they want to win it all. You are suggesting that they play with less intensity in the games in the Europa League to play with more intensity in the domestic league. I guess that is what you really think, but it is gibberish.

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November 22, 2023, 03:29:10 PM
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Seeing from what is happening now it is quite natural that many people give high hopes to Liverpool because with the performance they show and the quality of players and of course the experience they have, it is quite natural to give high hopes to Liverpool at this time, but we also have to know that sometimes surprises can always happen as well as for Liverpool considering that for the Europa League sometimes very big surprises can always happen, especially after the group phase.
In fact, I expect something more from the group of dark horses or unexpected clubs because in my opinion with that there will be a condition where the Europa League's excitement.
Slavia Prague is one of the example, out of nowhere team but they're better than Roma in group stage. Right now the strong candidates are both Leverkusen and Liverpool, I hope they both aren't in the same side because both of them would met in the semi final.

But yeah like you said, most of the times there's an out of nowhere team that reach to final stage lol.

It's true, this time at least Slavia Prague managed to be the best in group G, because before AS Roma was expected to dominate this group. But despite this, I personally do not believe Slavia Prague will go further although indeed, to qualify for the next round seems like it will definitely be obtained by Slavia Prague. But likely, Slavia Prague will also fall in the knockout phase later, and will not reach the final match. Because yes, although sometimes the dark horse teams managed to give a big surprise but still, in the end only the teams that played in the top European leagues which get the Europa League trophy. Therefore, I personally will remain confident for Liverpool or Bayer Leverkusen who will manage to get the Europa League trophy this season.

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November 22, 2023, 04:18:55 PM
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The Premier League is a tougher league than the European league. Liverpool may not have paid attention to the European league as they focused on the Premier League. Still, they showed great performance in the groups in the European league. They have the potential to become champions. Liverpool are very effective in attack, using the influence of Mo Salah. It is obvious that they will be successful in the European league.
The competition we find in the premier league is very different from that which we find in the Europa, this is as a result of the kind of teams found in both leagues as they are of different strength, depth and form, in the premier league the teams there are more competitive than those found in the Europa currently.

So we can understand why Liverpool has different kind of performance at both leagues because basically the pressure isn't the same from both sides, the current form Liverpool has is such that everyone will think they are definitely going to win the Europa which isn't really in doubt as this has been one of the dreams of their coach but then I will always say the game of football could be filled with surprises so let's give some more time and see how well every other team plays out.

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November 22, 2023, 04:19:35 PM
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I remember liverpool was winning europa league a few years ago. The reds is going to repeat the same result as previous seasons. Liverpool is more than ready to get the europa league trophy. It's even stronger compared with another club at this moment.
Even sevilla was nothing against liverpool. The most favorite club to win the trophy this time. I would like to see liverpool to face a strong club from serie a like roma or sevilla from la liga only if sevilla will go down to the europa league again.

It makes me feel happy caused by there will attractive game to happen soon.
Liverpool is one of the favorite teams in the European league this year. I don't see many teams that can block them. Some teams coming from UCL may be strong and force Liverpool, but I am sure that Liverpool has the power to beat any team with its great squad. They can even beat Manchester City.
It is very realistic to place them as the favorite team in the Europa League this season because of their great performance, in the EPL they are also competing with Manchester City to be the best this season. But you shouldn't forget Bayer Leverkusen, their performance under Alonso direction was extraordinary.
These two teams will try to win the Europa League title at any cost, Liverpool, who have succeeded in building self-confidence, will try to do their best in the UEL. Meanwhile, Leverkusen, who are their toughest competitors, will try to overcome last season's defeat to become the best in the Europa League this season.

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November 22, 2023, 04:32:07 PM
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So we can understand why Liverpool has different kind of performance at both leagues because basically the pressure isn't the same from both sides, the current form Liverpool has is such that everyone will think they are definitely going to win the Europa which isn't really in doubt as this has been one of the dreams of their coach but then I will always say the game of football could be filled with surprises so let's give some more time and see how well every other team plays out.
I don't doubt Liverpool, it's just that right now I feel that it's actually not yet time for Liverpool to win the European League title for various reasons and the most important thing for me is that Liverpool consistency is currently a little unstable, even though this season performance looks more convincing, I'm still happier If you look at Leverkusen, they will be able to lift the European League trophy and Leverkusen is also one of the strongest clubs and is the strongest challenger in the European League this season.
Even so, I will not doubt Liverpool because as you said, there are always surprises that we can never predict.

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November 22, 2023, 06:15:57 PM
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Seeing from what is happening now it is quite natural that many people give high hopes to Liverpool because with the performance they show and the quality of players and of course the experience they have, it is quite natural to give high hopes to Liverpool at this time, but we also have to know that sometimes surprises can always happen as well as for Liverpool considering that for the Europa League sometimes very big surprises can always happen, especially after the group phase.
In fact, I expect something more from the group of dark horses or unexpected clubs because in my opinion with that there will be a condition where the Europa League's excitement.
Slavia Prague is one of the example, out of nowhere team but they're better than Roma in group stage. Right now the strong candidates are both Leverkusen and Liverpool, I hope they both aren't in the same side because both of them would met in the semi final.

But yeah like you said, most of the times there's an out of nowhere team that reach to final stage lol.
Our focus is all on the big clubs at the end of the day which means surprise clubs can make the Europa League unpredictable. At the moment Leverkusen are the club that are certain to qualify without having to play off first and the other possibility is Liverpool also doing the same.
At the moment we can also expect clubs that are outcast from the Champions League to become one of the other strongest candidates to become champions so that the Europa League becomes even more difficult to guess.

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November 22, 2023, 06:50:53 PM
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Seeing from what is happening now it is quite natural that many people give high hopes to Liverpool because with the performance they show and the quality of players and of course the experience they have, it is quite natural to give high hopes to Liverpool at this time, but we also have to know that sometimes surprises can always happen as well as for Liverpool considering that for the Europa League sometimes very big surprises can always happen, especially after the group phase.
In fact, I expect something more from the group of dark horses or unexpected clubs because in my opinion with that there will be a condition where the Europa League's excitement.
Slavia Prague is one of the example, out of nowhere team but they're better than Roma in group stage. Right now the strong candidates are both Leverkusen and Liverpool, I hope they both aren't in the same side because both of them would met in the semi final.

But yeah like you said, most of the times there's an out of nowhere team that reach to final stage lol.
Our focus is all on the big clubs at the end of the day which means surprise clubs can make the Europa League unpredictable. At the moment Leverkusen are the club that are certain to qualify without having to play off first and the other possibility is Liverpool also doing the same.
At the moment we can also expect clubs that are outcast from the Champions League to become one of the other strongest candidates to become champions so that the Europa League becomes even more difficult to guess.
With their good achievements so far, Leverkusen and Liverpool are in the top position in fighting for the European league title and that is a very natural thing considering their very consistent performance in any competition. It is possible that we will see other big names who will soon join the European league and it looks like one of them, namely Sevilla, is likely to enter this competition after their chances of qualifying for the Champions League group stages are very slim. Competition will get tighter and we can conclude that this year's European league will be more exciting than before.

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November 22, 2023, 06:55:06 PM
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So we can understand why Liverpool has different kind of performance at both leagues because basically the pressure isn't the same from both sides, the current form Liverpool has is such that everyone will think they are definitely going to win the Europa which isn't really in doubt as this has been one of the dreams of their coach but then I will always say the game of football could be filled with surprises so let's give some more time and see how well every other team plays out.
I don't doubt Liverpool, it's just that right now I feel that it's actually not yet time for Liverpool to win the European League title for various reasons and the most important thing for me is that Liverpool consistency is currently a little unstable, even though this season performance looks more convincing, I'm still happier If you look at Leverkusen, they will be able to lift the European League trophy and Leverkusen is also one of the strongest clubs and is the strongest challenger in the European League this season.
Even so, I will not doubt Liverpool because as you said, there are always surprises that we can never predict.

But before, that you said about, it's not yet time for Liverpool to get the Europa League trophy. I think it's funny, when you express about "not yet time" because anyway, basically Liverpool not always play in the Europa League because Liverpool is a team that plays more often in the Champion League. Therefore, even at this moment it is still not easy for Liverpool to get the trophy because the competition is not easy. But still, because Liverpool have good quality then of course, Liverpool will be a title candidate team this season. Although yes, I also realize that it is just a prediction and does not guarantee to be a reality either. But ya, because we are on the topic of predictions, it is not wrong if we predict it and not just wait for the actual results to happen later.

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November 22, 2023, 06:55:20 PM
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Liverpool is one of the favorite teams in the European league this year. I don't see many teams that can block them. Some teams coming from UCL may be strong and force Liverpool, but I am sure that Liverpool has the power to beat any team with its great squad. They can even beat Manchester City.

It seems that you are too confident, we don't even know for sure how their progress will be in this competition. However, that doesn't matter, especially if you are a The Red supporter. Actually, I can understand that. Unfortunately, we cannot be sure of anything and what the final result will be. So far we have only talked about, feel confident about, data, statistics and performance. but I will say again, that in football it is unique. Even a strong team can fall against a very weaker team. there are many matches that we have seen, we can even refer to last season.
Imagine, which team will beat United when they are On Fire. In fact, one by one their players fell due to injuries which ended in United being humiliated by Sevilla. even though at that time, Sevilla's performance was very messy. In fact, we don't need to refer to their reputation in this competition, but the facts that occur in the field are valid evidence.

But okay, we agree that Liverpool has a pretty good chance of becoming a candidate to win this trophy. However, there are teams that actually perform better. Apart from that, teams that drop out of the Champions League cannot be underestimated. Regarding the Man City vs Liverpool match, yes, we agree that nothing is impossible if Liverpool can beat the home team. However, for some reason, even though several City players were injured, they were still favored by the bookmakers. City with @1.72, while Liverpool with @4.30. if I had to bet, I would prefer the home side.

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November 22, 2023, 07:14:41 PM
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With their good achievements so far, Leverkusen and Liverpool are in the top position in fighting for the European league title and that is a very natural thing considering their very consistent performance in any competition. It is possible that we will see other big names who will soon join the European league and it looks like one of them, namely Sevilla, is likely to enter this competition after their chances of qualifying for the Champions League group stages are very slim. Competition will get tighter and we can conclude that this year's European league will be more exciting than before.
It's true that I also feel that the competition in the European League this season is quite tight. Overall, teams like Laverkusen show fairly stable performance in the two best competitions they participate in, the Bundesliga and the Europa League. We also don't miss teams like Roma who show different performances between Serie A and the Europa League. We will soon see how they perform next because the international break is almost over.

Currently, it is difficult to predict the clubs that will join here from UCL, but we can see the picture by positioning them in their respective standings. Apart from that, there may be a lot of changes after this break, several clubs are faced with a storm of player injuries, which will definitely affect their consistency in achieving targets.

Regarding Liverpool, Jurgen Klopp squad will start week 13 in the EPL by facing Man City. If they manage to beat City then I will not hesitate to say that the Reds really deserve to be favorites here.

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November 22, 2023, 07:15:31 PM
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In Leverkusen, they only have Victor Boniface as the most productive striker. Patrik Schick still gets injured, it will take a long time to recover. If Leverkusen lost Victor Boniface, there is no alternative for an experienced or quality striker.



Maybe Boniface is the most productive striker now but he isn't the only productive player in the team anyway. For example Grimaldo (6 goals) and Hofmann (5 goals) have also been really productive as for scoring goals.  Smiley

Schick's absence is really bad for Leverkusen indeed. But Xabi Alonso has built such an amazing system that the team are still playing very amazingly. The teamwork is so strong that they are still scoring many goals in most of the matches they play and getting comfortable wins. Maybe sometimes they can drop in form but I don't think it would last long with a system like this.

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November 22, 2023, 07:57:43 PM
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With their good achievements so far, Leverkusen and Liverpool are in the top position in fighting for the European league title and that is a very natural thing considering their very consistent performance in any competition. It is possible that we will see other big names who will soon join the European league and it looks like one of them, namely Sevilla, is likely to enter this competition after their chances of qualifying for the Champions League group stages are very slim. Competition will get tighter and we can conclude that this year's European league will be more exciting than before.
These two team so far have been tops in their performance and results in both their domestic league and the Europa league so far where they both top their group and Leverkusen topping both their group and their domestic league but Liverpool is at second position I their domestic league which isn't a bad one too.

I just have a feeling both team may meet at the finals this season but before then they may meet after the group stage, na do have for some fears that other teams who will be joining from the champions league would most likely be some kind of problem to them because they look stronger than the other teams back in the Europa as there are only but a few good teams in the Europa the others could be seen as average team, for me the main game begins after the group stage.

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November 22, 2023, 08:09:09 PM
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With their good achievements so far, Leverkusen and Liverpool are in the top position in fighting for the European league title and that is a very natural thing considering their very consistent performance in any competition. It is possible that we will see other big names who will soon join the European league and it looks like one of them, namely Sevilla, is likely to enter this competition after their chances of qualifying for the Champions League group stages are very slim. Competition will get tighter and we can conclude that this year's European league will be more exciting than before.
These two team so far have been tops in their performance and results in both their domestic league and the Europa league so far where they both top their group and Leverkusen topping both their group and their domestic league but Liverpool is at second position I their domestic league which isn't a bad one too.

I just have a feeling both team may meet at the finals this season but before then they may meet after the group stage, na do have for some fears that other teams who will be joining from the champions league would most likely be some kind of problem to them because they look stronger than the other teams back in the Europa as there are only but a few good teams in the Europa the others could be seen as average team, for me the main game begins after the group stage.
I hope that won't happen and it would be a shame if the two candidates to win the European League this season meet early. But if that really happened, I think it would be crazy and it would be certain that one of them would be difficult to stop until the final round of the European League. The arrival of several teams from the Champions League might make the competition more exciting but that will not change the existing advantage and either Liverpool or Leverkusen should be able to beat the strong teams that were eliminated from the Champions League without any problems.

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November 22, 2023, 08:12:50 PM
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If you look at the level of consistency and performance shown by Liverpool this season, of course most people would not hesitate to say that about Liverpool this season in the Europa League. Because several teams that were eliminated from the Champions League and entered the Europa League will not easily prevent Liverpool from getting the Europa League championship trophy this season. And even Liverpool itself could also be a strong candidate to win its own domestic league this season if it is able to beat Manchester City in several matches this season.
Seeing from what is happening now it is quite natural that many people give high hopes to Liverpool because with the performance they show and the quality of players and of course the experience they have, it is quite natural to give high hopes to Liverpool at this time, but we also have to know that sometimes surprises can always happen as well as for Liverpool considering that for the Europa League sometimes very big surprises can always happen, especially after the group phase.
In fact, I expect something more from the group of dark horses or unexpected clubs because in my opinion with that there will be a condition where the Europa League's excitement.
I mean why wouldn't they, Liverpool is doing great at EPL too, and that is even harder to be fair, if you ask me which one is harder to win europa or premier league then I would say premier league. Liverpool is by far the best team here and that's not even that close, they are like twice as good as the closest team to them, so to think that they will win is not a crazy thought.

There isn't a single team that can beat them right now, we will have to wait and see how it will goes but I think it is going to be quite good. I hope that we are going to end up with a situation that will be a bit different when the teams from UCL comes here, that will definitely may include some teams that may put Liverpools changes at risk.

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November 22, 2023, 08:42:42 PM
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I mean why wouldn't they, Liverpool is doing great at EPL too, and that is even harder to be fair, if you ask me which one is harder to win europa or premier league then I would say premier league. Liverpool is by far the best team here and that's not even that close, they are like twice as good as the closest team to them, so to think that they will win is not a crazy thought.

There isn't a single team that can beat them right now, we will have to wait and see how it will goes but I think it is going to be quite good. I hope that we are going to end up with a situation that will be a bit different when the teams from UCL comes here, that will definitely may include some teams that may put Liverpools changes at risk.
EPL rankings, we can sight Liverpool at second position and they're rivals with Manchester City for the league title, indirectly they're in competitive race with City for the trophy and also competitive in Europa league. Jurgen Klopp have plans to achieved major trophies this season and he's working towards ensuring everything becomes tight spot and closer for his team. Liverpool chances of winning the Europa trophy keeps improving every day because the more the days passes by, the stronger Liverpool becomes in the league and less competitive are their oppositions.

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November 22, 2023, 09:07:47 PM
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~snip~

In Leverkusen, they only have Victor Boniface as the most productive striker. Patrik Schick still gets injured, it will take a long time to recover. If Leverkusen lost Victor Boniface, there is no alternative for an experienced or quality striker.



Maybe Boniface is the most productive striker now but he isn't the only productive player in the team anyway. For example Grimaldo (6 goals) and Hofmann (5 goals) have also been really productive as for scoring goals.  Smiley

Schick's absence is really bad for Leverkusen indeed. But Xabi Alonso has built such an amazing system that the team are still playing very amazingly. The teamwork is so strong that they are still scoring many goals in most of the matches they play and getting comfortable wins. Maybe sometimes they can drop in form but I don't think it would last long with a system like this.
This is true. Ever since Boniface was signed in Leverkusen he has performed very well. It surprised me a lot how he was able to adopt to the team play and the country lifestyle. Definitely his ex-club Liverpool will be missing his absence while watching how he strikes for Bayern Leverkusen. Currently he is their most esteemed striker so if anything should to him, there will be a lot of lapses in the team. Boniface has seven goals in eleven matches, and he is currently in a race for the highest goal scorer in the Bundesliga.

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November 22, 2023, 11:28:18 PM
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Talking about the future Europa League champions when the group stages are still running is quite funny. I understand if there is some talk about the favorites, but telling who the future champion is, isn't it too early to do that?

I am sure that there are journalists who are trying to ask Klopp whether the Europa League season is already over because they will win the title anyway and I know how Klopp would respond to these guys. Maybe you should get the chance to tell him that they can cancel the rest of the competition and give him the trophy right away, then wait for his reaction! Cheesy

There are other tough clubs in Europa, but these clubs have not proven their energy yet, still waiting for them to compete with the Reds for the title. Why do most individuals seemed to be very confident of Liverpool winning the Europa trophy this season? Because I don't understand, there's presence of other clubs that have the capacity of winning and drawing Liverpool, instead no one focuses on them. The only team that keeps gaining massive credits on winning the Europa title is Liverpool, however let's wait for the final outcome for the league, which of these teams will go home with the trophy.



The confidence is a bit odd I agree because being confident about winning a title requires a remarkable performance across all competitions with essentially zero mistakes all the way. Liverpool has had some problems in the Premier League although they are doing well at the moment, but they have also lost a game in the Europa League. It wasn't the most important game, but still a team that people are confident in winning the Europa League at this early stage of the competition should also pay attention to the little things and not give away a game in the Europa League like they did against Toulouse. This can also happen if the game is more serious against a stronger opponent.

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November 22, 2023, 11:41:42 PM
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Liverpool is one of the favorite teams in the European league this year. I don't see many teams that can block them. Some teams coming from UCL may be strong and force Liverpool, but I am sure that Liverpool has the power to beat any team with its great squad. They can even beat Manchester City.
Indeed. Liverpool and Leverkusen are the most favorite teams to win Europa League title this season. I really hope these teams will be in the final round, it will be an ideal final. Liverpool has a strong squad, their squad quality have been proven enough, they even can beat Man City in EPL. Sure, Liverpool has the capability to beat any team but unfortunately they sometimes do unnecessary mistakes and it leads to the losses. Sometimes, Liverpool players play underperformance, especially their attackers. If they can play consistently and avoid the mistakes, no doubt Liverpool will win this competition this season.


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November 22, 2023, 11:42:38 PM
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I mean why wouldn't they, Liverpool is doing great at EPL too, and that is even harder to be fair, if you ask me which one is harder to win europa or premier league then I would say premier league. Liverpool is by far the best team here and that's not even that close, they are like twice as good as the closest team to them, so to think that they will win is not a crazy thought.

There isn't a single team that can beat them right now, we will have to wait and see how it will goes but I think it is going to be quite good. I hope that we are going to end up with a situation that will be a bit different when the teams from UCL comes here, that will definitely may include some teams that may put Liverpools changes at risk.
EPL rankings, we can sight Liverpool at second position and they're rivals with Manchester City for the league title, indirectly they're in competitive race with City for the trophy and also competitive in Europa league. Jurgen Klopp have plans to achieved major trophies this season and he's working towards ensuring everything becomes tight spot and closer for his team. Liverpool chances of winning the Europa trophy keeps improving every day because the more the days passes by, the stronger Liverpool becomes in the league and less competitive are their oppositions.
Winning europa league must be a good achievement caused by it will give liverpool one of important trophy and UCL spot freely without needed to fight even harder for the EPL trophy. Klopp shall have targeted europa league this season but the club needs to put more effort caused by there will be some strong clubs that is going to prevent it to happen soon. People rarely mentioning roma in this competition.

They seem forgot with what achieved by roma. This club is strong enough to win europa league this season. Liverpool is going to have some strong competitors.
There will be more to come from UCL. Klopp can prepare his club much better to face all of the strong clubs in europa league. UCL has become the main target owned by klopp at this moment.

I hope he will able to bring liverpool to win europa league again. bookies still favoring liverpool rather than other club.

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November 23, 2023, 08:30:34 AM
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Liverpool is one of the favorite teams in the European league this year. I don't see many teams that can block them. Some teams coming from UCL may be strong and force Liverpool, but I am sure that Liverpool has the power to beat any team with its great squad. They can even beat Manchester City.
Indeed. Liverpool and Leverkusen are the most favorite teams to win Europa League title this season. I really hope these teams will be in the final round, it will be an ideal final. Liverpool has a strong squad, their squad quality have been proven enough, they even can beat Man City in EPL. Sure, Liverpool has the capability to beat any team but unfortunately they sometimes do unnecessary mistakes and it leads to the losses. Sometimes, Liverpool players play underperformance, especially their attackers. If they can play consistently and avoid the mistakes, no doubt Liverpool will win this competition this season.


Yes, sometimes Liverpool make mistakes which result in their defeat, like what Liverpool did when they visited the Touluse stadium, as a result Liverpool were unable to maintain their consistency, but so far Liverpool are still strong in the European league and are still leading group E and in Liverpool's remaining 2 matches I am sure Liverpool will show their best performance so that they can maintain their consistency like their rival Leverkusen is currently doing, which has not yet suffered defeat. I don't see other teams that have the strength like Leverkusen and Liverpool being strong candidates, but we can see whether clubs that didn't qualify for the Champions League can preventing Liverpool and Leverkusen from fighting for the European league title.

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