25/26 European basketball discussion: Euroleague/BBL/ACB/LegaA/LNB/TBL..

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Hapoel Tel Aviv is 2024/25 Eurocup champions. Well deserved. Gran Canaria was trying to keep close, but Hapoel were just better. Now I can't remember when it was last time when there was 2 teams from Israel in Euroleague.

I didn't have a chance to write earlier, but I made a big bet that Real Madrid would win. Big time. I believe there is no way with Real's influence that they would lose this game. At the moment there is a tie in the second quarter. But I am sure Real will win. I can't watch the game right now but I will watch the full game tomorrow or the next day and really pay attention. Let's see if I am right. I feel like after watching European basketball for long years, it is safe to say there is NO WAY Real would lose this game.

And you was right - Real killed Partizan with Tavares buzzer-beater. Partizan didn't managed to keep their big lead. But that's not enough for Real to get in playoffs. Both Barca and Efes won their games and Real will have to fight in play-in tournament. Actually, Barca was very close from losss, Virtus gave such great fight in meaningless game for them
This is how Euroleague table looks after regular season

Partizan season is like that last shot from Tavares. We lost all of these games in last attack or our mistakes. Partizan was better the entire game against Real Madrid at home but just cannot close it. Finally regular season is over and now the play offs are here so it will be fun to see who will win

Bayern Munich dropped hard after because of their last 2 games. The loss against Maccabi was SO unnecessary, especially when they had a super big lead.
If they at least won this game they would have been in the playoffs since they got the tiebreaker against Barcelona. But no, they lost and also lost against Fener, basically in the 1st quarter. Now it's gonna be tough to win both playin games to get at least the 8th spot. Talking about throwing away the season in 2 game against an underdog like Maccabi. 

[LTU_btc]

Partizan season is like that last shot from Tavares. We lost all of these games in last attack or our mistakes. Partizan was better the entire game against Real Madrid at home but just cannot close it. Finally regular season is over and now the play offs are here so it will be fun to see who will win

Yeah, this season Partizan lost so many close games. Not getting into play-in isn't result that they expected after changing whole roster in summer.

Bayern Munich dropped hard after because of their last 2 games. The loss against Maccabi was SO unnecessary, especially when they had a super big lead.
If they at least won this game they would have been in the playoffs since they got the tiebreaker against Barcelona. But no, they lost and also lost against Fener, basically in the 1st quarter. Now it's gonna be tough to win both playin games to get at least the 8th spot. Talking about throwing away the season in 2 game against an underdog like Maccabi. 

Yeah, Bayern can blame only themselves. But I want to say few words about Maccabi, they improved in the end of regular season. Yeah, they didn't got many wins, but almost all their games ended with small margins. Before they looked like Alba.
But for me biggest disappointment this season is Baskonia. With roster that they had Baskonia had to fight for play-in at least. They're struggling in ACB league too. IMO, last season under Dusko they looked much better than under Laso now.

[CLS63]

Fenerbahçe will most probably face Real Madrid. To be honest I still think Real Madrid will defeat us first and become champions after. They started the season badly but made a really great comeback anyway.

I'm glad to see Anadolu Efes making it to playoffs directly as well. They are still the most in form team in Euroleague with 8 straight wins recently. But Panathinaikos is a really difficult opponent and Anadolu Efes still have defensive vulnerabilities. I think Ergin Ataman's team will be the winner of the series.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Fenerbahçe will most probably face Real Madrid. To be honest I still think Real Madrid will defeat us first and become champions after. They started the season badly but made a really great comeback anyway.

I'm glad to see Anadolu Efes making it to playoffs directly as well. They are still the most in form team in Euroleague with 8 straight wins recently. But Panathinaikos is a really difficult opponent and Anadolu Efes still have defensive vulnerabilities. I think Ergin Ataman's team will be the winner of the series.

While real always needs to be respected I don't agree that they will the EL this season. The Greek teams are just too much to overcame and even beating Fener is not an easy task.
I believe (and hope) they will lose against Fenerbahce. Never been a Real fan and it's good to see them struggle for once, well kind of struggle, haha.
At the end it will be Pana on top this season, I have a strong feeling about that.

[Joca97]

Partizan season is like that last shot from Tavares. We lost all of these games in last attack or our mistakes. Partizan was better the entire game against Real Madrid at home but just cannot close it. Finally regular season is over and now the play offs are here so it will be fun to see who will win

Yeah, this season Partizan lost so many close games. Not getting into play-in isn't result that they expected after changing whole roster in summer.

Bayern Munich dropped hard after because of their last 2 games. The loss against Maccabi was SO unnecessary, especially when they had a super big lead.
If they at least won this game they would have been in the playoffs since they got the tiebreaker against Barcelona. But no, they lost and also lost against Fener, basically in the 1st quarter. Now it's gonna be tough to win both playin games to get at least the 8th spot. Talking about throwing away the season in 2 game against an underdog like Maccabi. 

Yeah, Bayern can blame only themselves. But I want to say few words about Maccabi, they improved in the end of regular season. Yeah, they didn't got many wins, but almost all their games ended with small margins. Before they looked like Alba.
But for me biggest disappointment this season is Baskonia. With roster that they had Baskonia had to fight for play-in at least. They're struggling in ACB league too. IMO, last season under Dusko they looked much better than under Laso now.

Me as a Partizan fan i expected a lot more,we got some good guys but many of them dropped in form at the end of the regular season and that costed us a lot. Maccabi would have been better if they played in Isreal but they didnt so thats why they were ranked so badly this season.

[LTU_btc]

While real always needs to be respected I don't agree that they will the EL this season. The Greek teams are just too much to overcame and even beating Fener is not an easy task.
I believe (and hope) they will lose against Fenerbahce. Never been a Real fan and it's good to see them struggle for once, well kind of struggle, haha.
At the end it will be Pana on top this season, I have a strong feeling about that.

History already teached me never understimate Real Madrid. They're not same team that we saw struggling in 1st half of season. I'm sceptical about their chances against Fener, but if they will reach F4... Format of F4 gives big advantage to underdogs.
But I would like to see them losing against Paris .

Maccabi would have been better if they played in Isreal but they didnt so thats why they were ranked so badly this season.

Completely agree about Maccabi. It's just so difficult to play all season long far away from home in empty arena. Maybe next season we will see their return to home.

[yenerbatmaz]

In the first round of the Play-in, Paris Basket defeated Real Madrid 73-81 away and it was a surprise score for me. With this result, Paris Basket became Fenerbahçe's opponent in the Play-off round.

[LTU_btc]

What a great play-in games. Bayern - Crvena Zvezda waa point by point and nothing surprising that game went to overtime. And then such games get decided by small details. Congrats to Bayern with promotion to next round.
So happy for Paris win today. Real recently was in great shape, winning against them is big achievement. Now they will play with Fenerbahche, I expectvit will be great series.
Real will have do or die game with Bayern on Friday. For Crvena Zvezda Euroleague season is over.

[Joca97]

What a great play-in games. Bayern - Crvena Zvezda waa point by point and nothing surprising that game went to overtime. And then such games get decided by small details. Congrats to Bayern with promotion to next round.
So happy for Paris win today. Real recently was in great shape, winning against them is big achievement. Now they will play with Fenerbahche, I expectvit will be great series.
Real will have do or die game with Bayern on Friday. For Crvena Zvezda Euroleague season is over.

Crvena zvezda was fighting hard and i didnt expect it to be such a close game but i think Bayern Munich had more quality and thats why they advanced. Didnt expect to see Real Madrid lose against Paris and it will be an intresting match between Bayern and Real Madrid its pretty much equal can and can go either way

[püsür]

In the first round of the Play-in, Paris Basket defeated Real Madrid 73-81 away and it was a surprise score for me. With this result, Paris Basket became Fenerbahçe's opponent in the Play-off round.

I think the key point was Real's 3 point shooting. They shot terribly, and at the important moments also. They missed too many. Paris was much better overall. But I think Tavares's technical foul in the first half was not a right decision. It affected the whole game. If Real could have more 3 points made, they could still win but they shot really bad. It is unacceptable in such an important game. Paris was possibly the most exciting team this season and at this game they also had some crazy points. Tj Shorts was great as always but Nadir Hafi was also amazing and exciting. I wonder if he can make it in the NBA someday.

If it was the good ol' days, I think Llull would have made some crazy high flying threes in the clutch time but it seems that his time has passed. I always remember Llull with those fast and high flying shots 

[CLS63]

While real always needs to be respected I don't agree that they will the EL this season. The Greek teams are just too much to overcame and even beating Fener is not an easy task.
I believe (and hope) they will lose against Fenerbahce. Never been a Real fan and it's good to see them struggle for once, well kind of struggle, haha.
At the end it will be Pana on top this season, I have a strong feeling about that.

They couldn't even win against Paris Basketball unexpectedly. They were able to play only one quarter dominant home. TJ Shorts and Nadir Hifi played really extra to carry their team to the victory.

Now Real Madrid are going to play a last chance game against Bayern and it is again in Madrid. I think this time they won't fail but their next opponent will be Olympiacos then. There is nowhere to run from a big competition for them.

[Joca97]

While real always needs to be respected I don't agree that they will the EL this season. The Greek teams are just too much to overcame and even beating Fener is not an easy task.
I believe (and hope) they will lose against Fenerbahce. Never been a Real fan and it's good to see them struggle for once, well kind of struggle, haha.
At the end it will be Pana on top this season, I have a strong feeling about that.

They couldn't even win against Paris Basketball unexpectedly. They were able to play only one quarter dominant home. TJ Shorts and Nadir Hifi played really extra to carry their team to the victory.

Now Real Madrid are going to play a last chance game against Bayern and it is again in Madrid. I think this time they won't fail but their next opponent will be Olympiacos then. There is nowhere to run from a big competition for them.

Paris has an unique playstyle and if they start hitting everything they will win the match and thats what happened against Real Madrid. Plus Real Madrid aint on that level they were before so i doubt in them. I dont think they will be able to win against Bayern it will be really close. Plus whoever goes through i think wont be able to defeat Olymipacos

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Paris has an unique playstyle and if they start hitting everything they will win the match and thats what happened against Real Madrid. Plus Real Madrid aint on that level they were before so i doubt in them. I dont think they will be able to win against Bayern it will be really close. Plus whoever goes through i think wont be able to defeat Olymipacos

Hmm Real not winning against Bayern is a bold statement to say the least. Me as a German of course I hope Bayern will push through but I doubt they will win. And the odds makers go the same way since the odds for Bayern to win are around 4.6 moneyline or around 10 points handicap. I think the handicap is a big too high since I also see these 2 teams closer but I wouldn't bet any money on the ml, not on both teams since the value on Real is not there and Bayern is just to crazy sometimes.
In the end I think Real will win by 6-8 points. Maybe we will see a surprise, same as the Paris game, but we can only wait and se..

[LTU_btc]

Hmm Real not winning against Bayern is a bold statement to say the least. Me as a German of course I hope Bayern will push through but I doubt they will win. And the odds makers go the same way since the odds for Bayern to win are around 4.6 moneyline or around 10 points handicap. I think the handicap is a big too high since I also see these 2 teams closer but I wouldn't bet any money on the ml, not on both teams since the value on Real is not there and Bayern is just to crazy sometimes.
In the end I think Real will win by 6-8 points. Maybe we will see a surprise, same as the Paris game, but we can only wait and se..

I agree with your thoughts. I would like to be wrong, but I don't see Bayern winning against Real today, After such season Bayern deserves spot in playoff, but I don't believe that Real will lose again while being favorite. If game would be played in Munich, that would be more likely, but not in Madrid.

[Joca97]

Paris has an unique playstyle and if they start hitting everything they will win the match and thats what happened against Real Madrid. Plus Real Madrid aint on that level they were before so i doubt in them. I dont think they will be able to win against Bayern it will be really close. Plus whoever goes through i think wont be able to defeat Olymipacos

Hmm Real not winning against Bayern is a bold statement to say the least. Me as a German of course I hope Bayern will push through but I doubt they will win. And the odds makers go the same way since the odds for Bayern to win are around 4.6 moneyline or around 10 points handicap. I think the handicap is a big too high since I also see these 2 teams closer but I wouldn't bet any money on the ml, not on both teams since the value on Real is not there and Bayern is just to crazy sometimes.
In the end I think Real will win by 6-8 points. Maybe we will see a surprise, same as the Paris game, but we can only wait and se..

I think im gonna chance to Real Madrid winning the match. Just got a notification that Carsen Edwards wont be playing for Bayern Munich today so i think without him Bayern Munich dosent stand a chance against Real Madrid. But still cant wait for the game to see how it will be played

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I think im gonna chance to Real Madrid winning the match. Just got a notification that Carsen Edwards wont be playing for Bayern Munich today so i think without him Bayern Munich dosent stand a chance against Real Madrid. But still cant wait for the game to see how it will be played

Well, the game was basically over at halftime or even after the first quarter. 
I mean when you see Bayern starting 3:15 you already know where this game is going, just a bad overall performance. Too be fair, Real had amazing shooting splits in this game so their game was on point to say the least. Thought this game might be closer but if you see Real Madrid starting this strong they hardly look back and Bayern never showed resilience or the will to make some sort of comeback.

[karabiber]

Fenerbahçe vs Paris Basketball
At home, Fenerbahçe is becoming a team that leaves no space for its opponents with the power of its fans and its defense. They can be effective both on outside shots and under the basket. Paris Basketball, on the other hand, brings a fresh energy to the EuroLeague, but their lack of experience can create serious problems, especially in away games. Fenerbahçe's slow tempo, controlled play and good defensive transition will limit Paris fast paced offense. I expect Fenerbahçe's discipline and bench contribution to make the difference, especially in the second half. In this kind of play-off atmosphere, experience matters a lot and Fenerbahçe clearly has that advantage. Fenerbahçe will win this game both with its experience and its play.

[LTU_btc]

Euroleague playoffs has begun and first two games certainly didn't disappointed. Yeah, we didn't got upsets today,but it looks that it might be long series. Now I'm wondering not about who will win, but in how many series all 5 games will be needed.
Fenerbahche won against Paris in very close game. In such games small details decide who will win, for example Fener today had significantly more rebounds.
Pnathinaikos beats Efes, despite that Efes had double digits lead in 3rd quarter. Regular season MVP Nunn had quite more, but it's not problem. Juancho Hernagomez turned on beast mode. And it's not even about the points - 16 rebounds and few important blocks.
Monaco - Barcelona and Olympiacos - Real tomorrow.

[Joca97]

Euroleague playoffs has begun and first two games certainly didn't disappointed. Yeah, we didn't got upsets today,but it looks that it might be long series. Now I'm wondering not about who will win, but in how many series all 5 games will be needed.
Fenerbahche won against Paris in very close game. In such games small details decide who will win, for example Fener today had significantly more rebounds.
Pnathinaikos beats Efes, despite that Efes had double digits lead in 3rd quarter. Regular season MVP Nunn had quite more, but it's not problem. Juancho Hernagomez turned on beast mode. And it's not even about the points - 16 rebounds and few important blocks.
Monaco - Barcelona and Olympiacos - Real tomorrow.

Really amazing two matches and both really close. Paris had a chance a couple of times but Fenerbahce was just better in this match,but Paris is showing to be a big threat. On the other hand Efes had everything in their hands until the fourth quarter and just couldnt close out the game. Its gonna be really intresting,first two matches were a blast

[yenerbatmaz]

It could have been Turkish night in the Euroleague, but Anadolu Efes lost the match 87-83 after leading from start to finish after falling behind by 11 points in the last quarter.

Panathinaikos played very well in the last quarter and won the match.

Fenerbahçe had a hard time against Paris Basket but still managed to win. 83-78