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November 03, 2023, 08:43:27 AM
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Assuming the gambler lost the said amount that he won, will the entitlement guy give the gambler back a little amount of money? People are just ungrateful and fail to understand what generosity means. I don't blame them, they feel because he didn't work hard to make such huge money, and it was luck that did it in a very short time and that is why they feel that it is their right to benefit from it. I only see the gambler as a good person that recognized the fact that he won his bet from that bet shop and chose to give the guy something to buy drink and the guy thinks that it is his right.

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November 03, 2023, 08:47:08 AM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.

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November 03, 2023, 08:47:44 AM
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This is one if the disadvantages of visiting a casino to gamble, you will have to settle unnecessary people who aren't present when you are losing your money, for gamblers they are useless people when they are losing money, and once they win a very big amount of money people will want to be part of that, it's a crazy world.

It is left for the gambler to make his decision, only him can decide if he is going to give money to some people or not, but for his safety it's better he do it because this days people are losing their minds, they can decide to hurt him by zeroing their mind that he is a greedy bastard, the heart of man turn into evil straight away when it comes to money.

Apart from being a gambler some people who don't care about you when you are struggling hard will still feel entitled when things turn around for you and they are no more in the same position they used to, the audacity they have to come asking you for something when they don't help you at your own difficulty time is an act of shameless.

Like I've just said, if this man want peace of mind he should settle whoever feels entitled in the area, people are lamenting this days and they will do anything to satisfy their mind, do not be a tool for them to satisfy their evil thoughts, give no room to evil, he should learn how to avoid this next time by using online gambling websites instead.

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November 03, 2023, 08:50:02 AM
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This money was won by the gambler and not the punter. The expectations of the punter should be satisfying. It is the decision of the gambler to either appreciate the punter or not. The question is, was the pointer not paid to do her job? Am not really happy to hear some comment supporting that the gambler was greedy and he would have given the punter more money. Most gamblers wont have appreciated or anyone no matter the amount won, I considered that particular gambler a generous person regardless that they have tagged him to be ruthless.

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November 03, 2023, 08:57:40 AM
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a common occurrence that often occurs when a gambler wins big and donates a little money to other people but still feels that it is not equivalent to what he got and gives a lot of bad criticism and it happens not only in gambling, I have experienced this when bullish arrives my assets became higher in price and I suddenly had a lot of money and tried to give someone the amount I thought was appropriate but it turned out to be a problem because he knew the amount I got so he seemed to want to ask for more than I gave but in a way the bad ones give harsh criticism but I consider it just nonsense, the most important thing is my good intentions.

In this case, I sometimes relate to how important it is to secret gambling activities. when you get a big win, no one will know and no one will beg in any way.

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November 03, 2023, 09:53:11 AM
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This money was won by the gambler and not the punter. The expectations of the punter should be satisfying. It is the decision of the gambler to either appreciate the punter or not. The question is, was the pointer not paid to do her job? Am not really happy to hear some comment supporting that the gambler was greedy and he would have given the punter more money. Most gamblers wont have appreciated or anyone no matter the amount won, I considered that particular gambler a generous person regardless that they have tagged him to be ruthless.

I believe punter as means those who are also gamblers there. So as the story goes, those punters or gamblers that are aware he won some money not the gambling agent working there . So most times it is usually the tradition that winners try to give money to those other gamblers which could mean to encourage them to continue and that winning is real especially for new gamblers, such winning confirm to them that tomorrow they can also win.

So I believe you missed the point of the punters, they are the other gamblers around there or those that the money was given to.

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November 03, 2023, 10:13:00 AM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.

I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

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November 03, 2023, 10:49:27 AM
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People should respect each other's choices and not feel entitled to someone else's winnings. It's all about personal preference and being cool with one another in the gambling scene. Sometimes, people might feel like they deserve a share especially if they were present or part of the gambling session but it really comes down to your own choice. Sharing is a nice gesture, but it's not a requirement.
I doubt these kind of people would give away a bigger portion of their winnings. How you share your money says something about the winner’s character but let him be. We dont know everyone’s story.

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November 03, 2023, 10:50:00 AM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

That's right, although this may be a way to strengthen friendships in one environment but still basically there is no rule that mandates that every gambler must share their winnings with others including their friends, and for their friends also should not force winning gamblers to share their winnings for any reason, if indeed they don't want to give a penny then don't make this a problem, because after all it's their luck and they are free to use and allocate the money from their winnings wherever they want.

But basically in the real world, this small thing can really be a problem in a friendship environment, especially between those who are fellow gamblers. Honestly for myself I am not too uncomfortable with this kind of problem, usually I will only give one of my friends who knows a sign of gratitude, for example when I get a win then I will give that person a little of the amount I won and if later he gets a win then he will also tell me and give a little of his winnings, but I will not be careless to give the proceeds of this victory to others, and as I mentioned I will only give to people who can also help me when I am in trouble, more or less like that.

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November 03, 2023, 10:56:12 AM
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The guy has all the right to allocate the amount that he wants to give to anyone, and he has no obligation to answer people questioning him on the amount he is giving it's his privilege because he is the winner, we all can feel the gambler's decision it's not easy to win huge in gambling you will have to lose a lot of money first suffer a lot of frustration and you have to be extremely lucky to win that amount, they never see the amount you invest and the agony of losing a lot of money trying to win big.

Those who ask from the winners do not understand what gamblers are going through so they should be contented with the amount, It is the gambler's family and close friends who support him are the ones who deserve to receive a big part of his winning.

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November 03, 2023, 11:14:56 AM
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If ever I win the jackpot prize, I treat people but not to the point that I force myself to spend huge amounts for them, they will accept whatever amount I can give.

Maybe we can say it was normal in some countries and common practices and it is okay. However, it is necessary to help these people change their approach and mindset about it because soon, it will become their habit. In fact, if you lose, they won't help you either nor give you some money but when you win, they'll be going to reach you and ask for something.

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November 03, 2023, 11:30:58 AM
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This is an issue with the country's regulators. Why such a poor country as Nigeria has allowed betting to become so widespread and accessible even more than food is beyond me... If there are resources in Nigeria to build up such a large empire for betting, the government should also tax its profits and invest in oversight. Betting companies should be forced to give back to sports themselves  because in reality its the athletes that provide all the entertainment and content that  betting is built upon...

So if this is an issue of anything, it's an issue of corruption. The government is corrupt for letting megarocps take advantage of its people so freely without giving much if anything back. So I would never put the blame on the individual gambler.

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If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.

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November 03, 2023, 11:59:29 AM
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The gambler made a considerabile donation. I don't understand why It should be blamed for the amount.
Morover Is not important "the amount" since I think the gesture has a strong value by itself.
It would be funny see people that are complaining in the same situation Smiley

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November 03, 2023, 12:08:41 PM
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If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.
That's what I am going to do if I am the winner, it should be better if your victory is known by a few important person in my life only, So that I can distance myself from people who might stick with me because they know I am the winner... One of the reason as well, is to protect my privacy since it might be dangerous if the news was cascaded to others. Well, sharing little amount of money from your winning prize became a tradition in Gambling, Considering as a Lucky charm for others, but It really depends to the winner if they want to give some to other gamblers in the playing area or not.



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November 03, 2023, 12:37:28 PM
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This is an issue with the country's regulators. Why such a poor country as Nigeria has allowed betting to become so widespread and accessible even more than food is beyond me... If there are resources in Nigeria to build up such a large empire for betting, the government should also tax its profits and invest in oversight. Betting companies should be forced to give back to sports themselves  because in reality its the athletes that provide all the entertainment and content that  betting is built upon...

So if this is an issue of anything, it's an issue of corruption. The government is corrupt for letting megarocps take advantage of its people so freely without giving much if anything back. So I would never put the blame on the individual gambler.

Friend I think you are missing the point of op which is basically on entitlement mentality of other gamblers not satisfied of the freewill gift given by another gambler to them because he won his bet. I think he was happy winning his bet and out of his magnimity decided to give some part of his winning to them. So that is the point if discuss.

But talking about taxing of gambling houses, yes they are taxed like other companies in Nigeria but although I believe tax evasion is high in Nigeria because of corruption.

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November 03, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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It's the gambler's prerogative because it's his money he should be the one to choose who he will give and how much he can give,
he has no obligation to gift people he does not know but we can say that he has a good character if he first gives people who are with him when he is betting.

We have a thread here of one guy winning a huge amount but not giving even a small percentage to his friends, he can allocate a small percentage but these people with whom he will share his winnings should not complaint whatever amount he should receive, You should know that his family and close friends should be the one to have a big share.

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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.
  You know, these self entitled people who keep on asking money from other winning gamblers, they only developed it as a habit because they are also used to be given by other gamblers. They won't feel that self-entitlement if they were not tolerated in the first place. So some of these instances are actually a mutual decision wherein the winning gambler also agree to give extra money if ever he wins. And as long as there are generous gamblers who keep on throwing free money to their fellow gamblers, then this self-entitlement will continue and will never be stopped.

However, one can cut this attitude by offering some free drinks instead of money. After all, these self-entitled gamblers have no right to complain but will just accept the free drinks that are made through goodwill.

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November 03, 2023, 02:22:46 PM
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As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.



On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
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The gambler didn't have to give anyone a penny, but he decided he would share a little of his win. If I am having a decent session and the site i'm playing on has a rain function, I like to send a little out to chat to try and give myself some good karma and keep the winning alive. The amount that I or any other gambler decides to share is up to us though, noone else has a right or claim to anything.

Lately I have been tipping less as there are so many beggars in a chat, it's almost like a full time job for them to sit there and beg all day.
I observed same thing. Many of these people with this begging behavior has taken it upon them as means to earn a few box for the day they act like they are also gambling just sitting down observing and on a watch for any lucky winner for them to give a kind of show of felicitations just to end up requesting a tip from your winnings. I usually keep a straight face when I perceive such people coming closer of which I sign-off without dropping a penny.

The more they keep getting those tips from every gambler that won the more their self entitlement enlarges that they start taking it as a right, more of a dues you're supposed to observe.
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November 03, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
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You've drawn a clear picture of how a gambler's kindness is being looked at closely and judged. Isn't it an interesting situation? Let's look into this more. The gambler wins a lot of money and chooses to give N100k to each other. Now, some people think it's not enough, while others think it's a nice thing to do. It's a standard example of having different points of view, right?

Tthere is no law, rule, or suggestion about how a bettor should spend their luck. They can choose what to do with their money. It is basically silly to think that wins should be split in a 60:40 ratio. It doesn't make sense, does it?

It's really weird how some people feel entitled to someone else's gains from gambling. You should accept the person's right to be alone who took a chance and won. This is to make it clear: gambling is a personal choice, as is whether to share the gains or not. Let's stop acting like we deserve things. It's not helpful, fair, or right

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