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November 25, 2023, 02:27:42 PM
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It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

The individual that won has no obligation to gift money to anyone so what he gave was fine and the receiver didn't complain because there are some gamblers that'll win that much or more and won't give a dime to the punters. It was his risk and the punters had no part in his victory so why do people think he owes him any appreciations. By the time that gambler gets home he would have lost most of his profits if he keep giving them out to random People that ask.

The family members will also want a share of the money won as the news would have gotten home before he gets home. If I was the individual in this situation, I'll live town for sometime as the news would had circulated round town and I become a traget to evil individual that'll want to get a share of the money. The gambler should just look for what he'll Invest in to secure his profits and not spend it gifting it to people that wouldn't be appreciative.
Winning big is a shared experience. Shouldnt this extend to winnings? Casino psychology is about shared highs and lows, not just money. The gambler's victory may inspire others. Besides admiration, isnt there a subtle moral need to uplift his nearby gaming community?

However, the gambler becoming a target after winning is intriguing. It exposes human envy and selfishness. Winning requires strategy. While investing intelligently is crucial, isnt it also vital to balance self-preservation and community harmony? The gambler's temporary disappearance may be a strategic retreat, but does it also separate him from the community that applauded his luck? Where does self-interest meet community responsibility?


The one who was given N100K was the one who suggested which to bet. The winner gave him a tip. I don't know what would he have said if it hadn't won, he wouldn't have the responsibility to reimburse the loss of N100.

This entitled man is envious and can't demand more from the 15M for it will be more embarrassing so he just bad-mouths the winner for giving him N100K. He could really used that N100K to also stake aas it will just cost N100 to win 15M.

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November 25, 2023, 02:41:49 PM
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I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.

In a group of people if there is one who wins from gambling that he does then I'm sure it's no longer strange if most of his friends behave prominently to him they seem to care so much about the winner and bring up some of their kindnesses that they have done for the winner, nothing but that just to seek mercy from the giver so that they can get a share of his winnings. Basically, money can make us know about the true nature and behavior of the person, so we can judge that there are many negative things about them.

Sometimes there are also some people like that who determine the amount themselves, they ask for a certain amount to the person who will give a little of the winnings, it's really very bad behavior, instead of being grateful because the winner is willing to share the money but on the other hand they set a certain amount according to what they want, I have one friend like this, and now I decided not to get too close to him especially when I gamble.
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November 25, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
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The unreasonable distribution of money, arena fighters pitted their respective hockey, there is indeed an element of cooperation, but such ridiculous rules, disgusting. Moreover, it is misplaced if he asks for a share of the money won by others so large, of course those who have capital are powerful, his money should be held instead of betting, let him fight with his own expectations, he gave it despite his reasons, but I am quite reacting to a character who cannot appreciate the gifts of others, working together does not mean arbitrarily. As a winner, if you want to donate, it's only natural, not arranged by others, this is extortion. Maybe it's a tradition among close friends in the neighborhood or the more experienced caste in the area, but remember that victory and capital are not necessarily easy.









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November 25, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
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that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.
Exactly and because of the presence of online casinos, I can’t even remember when last I visited a physical casino and I think one other reason why people also physical casinos is because they don’t have internet or even a smart phone and this is very rough survey from people around when asked and you might be tempted to ask if is possible for people not to have internet or even a smart phone in this modern age and yes to say that it is very possible for people not to have either of them and the best option at this thing to hit a physical casino which isn’t a bad idea except for the tipping culture and entitlement spirit possessed by others and there are also people who come to a physical casino not because they want to gamble but rather to partake in sharing if others winnings.

I think for now most of them (gamblers) prefer to participate in some online-based casinos, because there are quite a lot of conveniences that they get there, and also on the other hand it is very easy to access just by using their cellphones, so if measured in percentage then maybe it's about 80% of people who prefer to participate in online casinos compared to physical because on the other hand they also want to keep up with the times that are all sophisticated and modern, and also like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.

Of course I think there are still some other reasons that make them participate in physical casinos, I see that there are also those who have a pretty good ability to keep up with the times like they have cell phones to access online casinos but they prefer to join physical casinos, I think one of the reasons that is quite easy to guess is because they want a lively atmosphere and want to establish close relationships with many people in person.

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December 12, 2023, 09:15:01 PM
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I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.
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December 12, 2023, 09:34:56 PM
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I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.
You would really be having those doubts whenever there's someone who do have that kind of nice approach into you and it seems that they are really just that trying to impress you out and making out some suggestions
and on the time that you do make out some good hits then it would turn out to those people who would really be asking something from you or would really be having that kind of self entitling on which it do really
pisses me of and this is something that we dont really like on which it is really that giving out that feeling that they are really that trying out to make that advantage just because they did really make out something
that it doesnt really have that relevance at all considering that we can really make our own bets basing up with our own analysis on which not really needing up someones help.
As a person whom you do know that certain bettor, then you should really appreciate if ever they would be giving out some tips, if its just small then so be it and dont demand for more
on which you dont really have the rights on doing so.

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December 14, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
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like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.
I don't see that being a good reason why people go to physical casinos or gamble at physical casino establishments instead of using online platforms because first of all, it's not something one can believe that a person in this era can have no smartphone or any electronic device, we live in a digital world, and even kids aged 5 to 6 years have mobile phones these days. Secondly, if it's about affordability-- if a person has enough money they can gamble, they should easily be able to buy a smartphone, they don't cost that much, at least some of them don't.

I believe that the reason why some people still visit physical or land-based casinos for their gambling activities is because it's more fun and the thrill is amazing. I gamble online when I want to, and the reason for that is that we don't have physical casinos around here, but if we did, I would barely gamble online.

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Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.


And what is clear from the discussion this time, if we don't want to be asked by other people for the winnings we get, then don't ever ask for rights or shares when someone else gets the big win.

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It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

The world has gotten too greedy and far too shameless.

I would not have given anything. In fact after such a disgrace, I would have learned my lesson quickly not to give anyone anything that they did not earn. And in this case, nobody except the gambling winner is the only one who deserves anything.

But perhaps this is a cultural thing? That would make more sense and I could understand that. I know that in some African countries for example, sharing your newfound wealth among the community is considered natural and anyone who does not share is viewed very negatively...

Is there more context to this story, OP? Give us a link to the story?

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I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.

The immaturity in dealing with things and also the high level of envy that exists in a person will certainly lead to jealousy, that's right and I think people like that don't really understand the concept of luck in gambling where everything is nothing more than a piece of luck, especially in terms of winning, so if you lose and your friend wins then that means you are unlucky and your friend is in his lucky period. Claiming rights to other people's winnings I think is unethical to do, you should not ask or even by putting the amount that the person should give you, it's a shame. It's simple if your friend wants to share some of their winnings with you then you can accept it but if they don't want to give it at all then that's their right.

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December 14, 2023, 07:51:04 PM
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It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

The world has gotten too greedy and far too shameless.

I would not have given anything. In fact after such a disgrace, I would have learned my lesson quickly not to give anyone anything that they did not earn. And in this case, nobody except the gambling winner is the only one who deserves anything.

But perhaps this is a cultural thing? That would make more sense and I could understand that. I know that in some African countries for example, sharing your newfound wealth among the community is considered natural and anyone who does not share is viewed very negatively...

Is there more context to this story, OP? Give us a link to the story?
Its never been that a cultural kind of thing but it did really just turn out to be something that people would really be seeing this to be standard behavior or really looks like that you should really be that responsible on giving out with those kind of giving some bonuses into those people who had been able to help you out on making up bets but actually it isnt really something necessary or something that would really be relevant because we do know that its our money that had been risked out and not theirs and if it do looks that you are really that being obliged on giving up some money on the time that you do make up some good wins on which its never
been that something right after all. Its your money that had been risked out and not theirs and this is something that you should be putting up into your mind.

There are really just those people who are really that too shameless on acting something on which arent supposed to be act on that way because they dont really have any rights on asking out
something which we know that it isnt really just that right for them to have that kind of approach into someone who have won something. Just better if they should be waiting
until that winner would really be giving out at least some small tips on showing up some appreciation but if there's none then you shouldnt really be that angry.

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December 14, 2023, 07:56:54 PM
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Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.

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December 14, 2023, 08:02:54 PM
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Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.

but don't forget that getting tips from someone else's winnings should not be expected at all especially if you are not really friends with the winner. i can understand if you will ask some tips from your friends but to strangers, definitely not.

however, some people really have that kind of attitude where they feel they can really ask from random people just seeing them win. do think about the times where he is on the losing side. are you cheering him in any way you can, i bet not.

also, consider about the winner himself. of course, he has his own plans on how he will spend his winnings. just wait for him if you are one of the lucky ones who can get tip from him. if not, don't get butthurt. it is part of this game. don't take it too personal. otherwise, you will be sorry for yourself without reason.

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but don't forget that getting tips from someone else's winnings should not be expected at all especially if you are not really friends with the winner. i can understand if you will ask some tips from your friends but to strangers, definitely not.

however, some people really have that kind of attitude where they feel they can really ask from random people just seeing them win. do think about the times where he is on the losing side. are you cheering him in any way you can, i bet not.

The gambler friends mostly try to get many free meals and gifts,loan from his winning friends.But he should understand the basic fact,the gambler or normal people will ready to spend for his close friends and not to all friends.And some of the gamblers relatives will start to ask the loan from their gambler who made the big money as winning.This was the reason the gamblers will not share their gambling involvement to their relatives.This was the common thing of the relatives of their wife most of the time.

Some people will try to get free food from the others money,it’s their attitude.So we can’t change them,but we can stop their behaviour by not encouraging them free food.Sometimes gamblers can give the free food because of their winnings,but they should not sponsor for their drinking.

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December 15, 2023, 02:40:04 PM
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like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.
I don't see that being a good reason why people go to physical casinos or gamble at physical casino establishments instead of using online platforms because first of all, it's not something one can believe that a person in this era can have no smartphone or any electronic device, we live in a digital world, and even kids aged 5 to 6 years have mobile phones these days. Secondly, if it's about affordability-- if a person has enough money they can gamble, they should easily be able to buy a smartphone, they don't cost that much, at least some of them don't.

I believe that the reason why some people still visit physical or land-based casinos for their gambling activities is because it's more fun and the thrill is amazing. I gamble online when I want to, and the reason for that is that we don't have physical casinos around here, but if we did, I would barely gamble online.

it is indeed quite strange that people in this era do not have cell phones, because generally as you said even small children can have them, also with technology they should now have cell phones as the main tool in today's life because it is also something important in today's life. even if they don't have enough money to buy a new cell phone they can still buy a used cell phone which has a fairly low price. therefore I think it is quite absurd that today someone does not have a cell phone.

I think it's true that the sensation will be different from online gambling, because in physical casinos we can see a lot of people and all kinds of people respond to gambling, I myself occasionally want to visit physical casinos, but like in my country it is not allowed to have physical casinos. therefore in my country there are many who gamble online.

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December 15, 2023, 04:18:21 PM
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Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.
Sharing with other people will indeed make us happy in receiving it and we also have to see whether the person is worthy of what we give or not, because there are some people who we have given to them and they do not appreciate what we give so it is very sad for those who give it , it would be better if we never help people like this because they will feel that what we have given them is not enough.

Remembering what we have given to other people will indeed make us count what we have given to other people and also we will be angry when that person cannot help us when we need help from them, so it would be better for us to forget what we have given. we give to others and remember well the people who have helped us when we need it.

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Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.
Sharing with other people will indeed make us happy in receiving it and we also have to see whether the person is worthy of what we give or not, because there are some people who we have given to them and they do not appreciate what we give so it is very sad for those who give it , it would be better if we never help people like this because they will feel that what we have given them is not enough.

Remembering what we have given to other people will indeed make us count what we have given to other people and also we will be angry when that person cannot help us when we need help from them, so it would be better for us to forget what we have given. we give to others and remember well the people who have helped us when we need it.

Sharing the win seems like a worldwide phenomenon. As a kid, I used to sit around adults gambling or playing cards in hope of getting some tips or commission for bringing beers with the win money.  It's a good gesture in a physical casino a round of drinks to everyone on the table. And the amount do depend on the person and how much they have won or lost overall.
A person who has many losses and a large win is not entitled to satisfy anyone with a tip. Not just them but nobody is entitled to do anything. People can tip any amount to anyone at their ease and should not be morally forced to.


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Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

People really have the audacity to tell others something that they can't even think of doing.
The gambler could have decided to give nothing at all but he still did and that is his kindness.
It doesn't matter whether the amount he gave is small or not but its still better than nothing.

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Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.

And a person's human nature is always remembering the good they have done to others. Meanwhile, when they make mistakes against others, they often ignore it and just forget the incident, without any apology.

It is really difficult to be sincere about everything we have given to others. We always expect that the person we give it to, can return the favor for the kindness we have given him. Especially if someone doesn't know the word thank you. Even though I have done good to him, but why yes ... he even hurt my feelings by continuing to avoid me when he got a big win.

Besides we have to give according to our abilities, it would be better if we give something to others, then never once expect that the person will behave the same way. Because sometimes when someone has got a big win in his gambling activities, it often makes him forget about everything.
So stop hoping for others, because hoping hurts.

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December 16, 2023, 05:16:16 AM
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The first mistake that new gamblers make is to follow others directly. When the new gambler directly follows others, if we try to convince them that the new gambler is only thinking about the positive side of seeing others win, then that new gambler does not want to understand. A new gambler then has a thing in his mind that if another gambler can win that much money by gambling then he can also win more money than that. It is difficult to convince him at that time that he does not always have to insist, sometimes he needs to think with conscience. Before following others I have to understand that other people's strategy and my strategy are not the same and that the other person has been gambling for as long and has developed as much skill and experience about gambling as I have not. A new gambler has to decide on this aspect by considering this aspect

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