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May 16, 2024, 12:42:47 PM
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This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.
And top of that, there's no pure logic in our brain, as everything is always mixed with emotions. They aren't substituting anything, because they literally are made by our brain and part of how our brain operates and makes decisions. That "self control" comes from our limbic system can keep those emotions in check so we can take a breath and evaluate situation before acting, but we are not supposed to ignore the feelings as some sort of negative thing. They are really helpful tool to us when used with reason. And part of fun why we are gambiing in the first place.

True, I agree with your point that everything is mixed in the brain, sometimes it's really hard to ignore emotions because they keep pressuring our brains to do various things that can cause a sense of satisfaction, so maybe because of this people sometimes lose consciousness and instead express their emotions blindly just to find satisfaction, such as taking risks that are far greater than they can be responsible for.

And this is also the reason why self-control becomes very difficult to do, on the other hand I am sure that there are some of them who understand that emotions can make everything messy and make them experience worse things, but they have a low level of patience in themselves so it is difficult to completely ignore the feelings of emotion that are in themselves so that various out of control things happen.

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May 16, 2024, 02:59:54 PM
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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.

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May 16, 2024, 03:37:08 PM
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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.
Do not be stubborn that the advice of the closest person is very important for us to prevent excessive ugliness, so never consider yourself the most righteous.
That in gambling sometimes has a high emotional sense when you lose and you deposit back to play hoping to recover again but that is a sign that the addiction has begun to get out of control.

I always set a bankroll for gambling so that there is a limit when it runs out then stop and take a break once finances recover then you can go back to gambling for the fun of it.

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May 16, 2024, 03:47:35 PM
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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.


How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start?  We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling
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May 16, 2024, 03:53:18 PM
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But many of them give reminders that everyone should gamble moderately. They have no control over the emotions of their gamblers and that's why there's the reminder and a feature about self exclusion. There have been gamblers that have used that feature when they can't help themselves and that actually worked for some. Still, it depends on how we look at gambling and how extreme our addiction is. If you get to know more about yourself and you understand the hardship of controlling your emotion as you gamble, you better stop doing that while there's time or before it gets worse.

It's true, it all depends on yourself, even if you have this feature, but if you initially reacted wrongly to gambling then there is nothing that can stop you from feeling like gambling. I found that there is a person in my area who is seriously addicted to gambling. There have been various ways to make him aware not to gamble again because it will only make him experience the ruin of his life, but nothing can stop him from gambling, even with his partner or with his family, when he becomes addicted, they themselves can make him aware and stop his bad habit. other people may only be able to remind and advise and after that it all depends on the perpetrator.

For beginners who are new to gambling, I hope they can see that there are many people who cannot control themselves so that they experience many bad effects, namely the destruction of their lives periodically. sooner or later if they respond wrongly to gambling then they can become addicted to gambling. Don't assume that gambling can make you money for sure, because that's not true. It's best to gamble appropriately, including with your thoughts too.
It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.
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May 16, 2024, 04:13:44 PM
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You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

Actually it doesn't  matter the amount of advice or knowledge acquired by a beginner before going into gambling. Is how they make use of those knowledge in their gambling sections. Because most individuals only have the knowledge but they don't apply it in their gambling sections. Like for instance an individual is aware that in gambling is either one win or lose , but still whenever they undergo some losses they usually lose it and start chasing after those losses , betting inorder to get what they have loss back . And such act is example of irresponsible gambling.

So what am trying to say is that, one should always apply what he or she have learned as a beginner in whatever they are doing either in gambling or in some other related areas.

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May 16, 2024, 04:21:45 PM
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What you say is very true, there are no tips that can prevent us from being addicted to gambling and for some people who can learn from their mistakes they will certainly be able to stop gambling after they realize they have spent money on things they don't really need, but for some people who cannot learn from the mistakes they make in gambling will of course continue to gamble until they have a lot of problems, especially in financial terms because they spend a lot of money on their gambling habits, so I think in this case it would be better for us to continue to have limits when gambling so that we don't experience things we don't want.
There are always tips and advice that help gamblers to reduce their addiction to gambling, but to overcome addiction, gamblers need to have awareness and responsibility. Being a responsible gambler basically doesn't make you less addicted, it's just that being a responsible gambler doesn't have too much of an impact on the effects of addiction.

Addiction can be categorized into several phases from the lowest to the compulsive phase. In the early stages, it is not very difficult for gamblers to get rid of their addiction, but when they become compulsive gamblers, the effects of addiction will be very difficult to overcome without expert help or treatment.

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May 16, 2024, 04:26:56 PM
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It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

Overall yes it is true that addiction is a situation where someone is very difficult to give advice even though the advice is actually for their own good, it is because they are very stubborn and already have a different mindset from normal people in addressing gambling, usually someone who is addicted always believes and believes that they will be able to get a big win in their gambling activities that can change their fate to become a rich man for example, and if you continue to advise them then there is a possibility that they will think that you are someone who is too interfering with other people's affairs or can also cause a split in the social relationship between you and the person.

This is one of the reasons why addiction is very difficult to cure, none other than because they have entered a chronic mindset that is too sure of winning in gambling, when it is clear that the more they gamble, the possibility of losing will be greater. And if you already feel tired in terms of giving advice to them then I think let it go because in the end they will also definitely realize that what they are doing is wrong, especially when someday they experience a significant downturn that makes them really feel traumatized.

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May 16, 2024, 07:54:03 PM
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One of the most important thing In gambling is ti understand it and know some gambling instructions and this will make you know the good part and bad part of the gambling and to even understand how to predict very well, it will help that record lower losses than  winning, and it how to suppose to be, not everytime you gamble, what ever you do should be the right decision

the thing is that most of the people won't read instructions... the worst part of gambling is probably when it goes out of control and your habits outgrow your power of will
making you impotent on deciding what to do and unable to control yourself (stopping when you want to stop)

it's is possible to gamble responsibly but for some it'll be very hard...

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May 16, 2024, 09:48:38 PM
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A gambler should have self control and always gamble with a levelled head, never allowing your emotions substitute your brains and start making decisions for you,

This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.
And top of that, there's no pure logic in our brain, as everything is always mixed with emotions. They aren't substituting anything, because they literally are made by our brain and part of how our brain operates and makes decisions. That "self control" comes from our limbic system can keep those emotions in check so we can take a breath and evaluate situation before acting, but we are not supposed to ignore the feelings as some sort of negative thing. They are really helpful tool to us when used with reason. And part of fun why we are gambiing in the first place.

Yes, it is a fact, but things should always be like this with a certain amount of confidence, or maybe it is that games of chance are made so that we lose control of our emcoins and our money to win more , it is simple, in the games of chance, in casinos, the player who had a high Financial culture always wins, because we have not seen a Warren Buffet, Kiyosaki, or even a Trump addicted to casinos, that does not happen because they are people who are clear about what they are made for It is gambling, and it is a fact that when they play, if they play at all, it is with very little money, because they know that it is money that they are losing.

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May 16, 2024, 10:01:47 PM
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How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start?  We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling
It's not that difficult to show pieces of evidence that gambling isn't a business where we could make money out of it. Most of the time we are losers in this industry.
Play the game for a while and you will see in your graph what I am talking about. The game summary. In 20k of bets, I can always see the house edge winning in most of my games. Therefore, I just think of it as a wagering game where you want to wager more increase your VIP rank, and maybe take advantage of the bonuses and raffles that a gambling site gives out. When it comes to hitting that biggest multiplier, it's not that easy. We will have to spend more money than what we will get. It's better if in those moments we could at least enjoy what we did than playing the game with the purpose of beating the house because that's impossible.
That truth will make a beginner think twice about spending too much.

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May 16, 2024, 10:40:25 PM
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the thing is that most of the people won't read instructions... the worst part of gambling is probably when it goes out of control and your habits outgrow your power of will
making you impotent on deciding what to do and unable to control yourself (stopping when you want to stop)

it's is possible to gamble responsibly but for some it'll be very hard...
When people don't read instructions or don't care at all about them, I fear their only chance is to learn on practice by their own mistakes. Many of us here have already learned that way, so I think it's not bad at all, since you are able to get a valuable lesson from these experiences in the end.

It's just bad when the gambler commits mistakes and instead of learning something with them, he keeps commiting more and more mistakes, repeating patterns while expecting the results are going to be different.

We can understand mistakes from newbies or beginners, because it's part of the process of getting familiarized with an activity you never had any contact before, however, I really can't understand such mistakes from experienced gamblers as something natural, rather I see them as something pathological.

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May 16, 2024, 10:54:22 PM
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Maybe the first thing I will do is provide basic knowledge about what gambling is and how someone can potentially become addicted to it. After he understands how someone can be addicted to gambling and how to avoid it, then I will ask him to activate the responsible gambling features on his account, such as time limit, reality check, etc., because these features are very useful for novice gamblers so that they don't exposed to gambling for too long which has the potential to make them addicted.
Someone can still claim to understand everything you told them about gambling addiction and how to avoid it and still end up getting addicted when, at the end of the day, it happens. It's easier the way they say it than to keep to it. 
 
So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.

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May 16, 2024, 11:15:03 PM
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Maybe the first thing I will do is provide basic knowledge about what gambling is and how someone can potentially become addicted to it. After he understands how someone can be addicted to gambling and how to avoid it, then I will ask him to activate the responsible gambling features on his account, such as time limit, reality check, etc., because these features are very useful for novice gamblers so that they don't exposed to gambling for too long which has the potential to make them addicted.
Someone can still claim to understand everything you told them about gambling addiction and how to avoid it and still end up getting addicted when, at the end of the day, it happens. It's easier the way they say it than to keep to it. 
 
So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.

Trying to get someone interested in responsible gambling require lots of efforts. Including for the newbies. Some people don't have any experience in gambling despite their multiple years in the gambling world. This shows how little a helping hand for responsible gambling is in the niche. I think it'll be hard to reach out to the right ones who would listen to such a good method about setting up limitations on their device. Maybe get alert once the time exhaust. But, that wouldn't drag the player away from the slot machine. Expecially when the game tends to get better. People have their ways of responding to things and not everyone thinks they're doing the wrong thing at the right time. Some people gamble at the right time but fail to gain happiness afterwards.

The money is what gets people addicted in gambling. Money makes people excited. And excitement brought most people to gambling. Telling them about a method that doesn't guarantee winning enough money wouldn't interest the person. Because his source of joy and excitement could be driven from the wins in gambling. I think checking up on them while playing is the right method. But who does get the chance of policing a fellow gambler. Another problem of it is that non gamblers can't help in teaching new gamblers because they don't know much of these things. The only available help are also busy with their personal gambling journey. That's why it seems that newbies don't often get help from experienced players. Like a planned thing, all player must make the early mistakes of their gambling journey, if they had no helping hand.

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May 16, 2024, 11:24:50 PM
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So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.
One thing I know for sure, no one can help you more than you can help yourself. There is nothing wrong with gambling but, there is everything wrong with being gambling addict. Even some gambling site do ask of you, to gamble responsibly. That’s to say, you shouldn’t be addicted to gambling but even so, the gambling site don’t get to draw the lines for you. That’s up to you to decide where you can call enough!

Hence, for you to help someone in helping themselves, that addict needs to understand that he or she is actually addicted and this addiction isn’t helping. Let the addict come to terms with that and then, you could aid them to actually seeing a way out through gradual withdrawal to some safe gambling. Let them see the changes it brings and they might stick to a green gambling habit.
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One thing I know for sure, no one can help you more than you can help yourself. There is nothing wrong with gambling but, there is everything wrong with being gambling addict. Even some gambling site do ask of you, to gamble responsibly. That’s to say, you shouldn’t be addicted to gambling but even so, the gambling site don’t get to draw the lines for you. That’s up to you to decide where you can call enough!

Hence, for you to help someone in helping themselves, that addict needs to understand that he or she is actually addicted and this addiction isn’t helping. Let the addict come to terms with that and then, you could aid them to actually seeing a way out through gradual withdrawal to some safe gambling. Let them see the changes it brings and they might stick to a green gambling habit.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with gambling, especially if you don't do it often, of course if they become addicted to gambling, that's the problem. But if they become addicted to gambling, it is because of their own fault for their perception that the gambling they do is beyond normal limits. Now, if they can gamble appropriately or in other words, they can still control themselves, the gambling they do will be normal, apart from that, many of them become addicted to gambling in the hope of winning big. As much as possible we must prevent rather than cure.
But of course, sometimes those who are heavily addicted to gambling need other people to encourage them when they want to change their gambling habits. However, we know that those who are addicted to gambling certainly won't realize it easily, so the opportunity for them to become aware of their gambling is a big problem that could destroy them later.

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Do not be stubborn that the advice of the closest person is very important for us to prevent excessive ugliness, so never consider yourself the most righteous.
That in gambling sometimes has a high emotional sense when you lose and you deposit back to play hoping to recover again but that is a sign that the addiction has begun to get out of control.

I always set a bankroll for gambling so that there is a limit when it runs out then stop and take a break once finances recover then you can go back to gambling for the fun of it.

Very good advice, as gamblers there are very different characters, yes, for gamblers who are addicted, they definitely find it difficult to be given good advice because they think they are the right one, even though they are given advice no matter how hard it is, the addict will still not obey, even just just ignore his advice.
Your steps are right, friend, yes, every gambler should have a bankroll when they want to gamble. By looking at that bankroll, we will know when it is time to stop gambling and in the casino we will not spend a lot of money because we can make good use of the bankroll.


How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start?  We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling

It's true that only a few will be able to do it because it's true what you said, we are busy with our own work and we can't possibly focus optimally on what beginner gamblers have experienced. Therefore, as beginners, they should have seen and hear about experiences or bad luck that have been experienced by experienced gamblers and that is where beginners must be able to adjust the conditions and situations so that they are appropriate and do not pose a big risk for the beginner himself.

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May 17, 2024, 08:02:10 AM
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There's nothing bad in good positive emotions, like those that we experience when we are winning, but usually aggressiveness is not one of them good emotions we should seek for.
Gambling should never be aggressive because the chances of losing is higher than that of winning. If you are aggressive, before the winning will come, you might run out of money. I have tried aggressive gambling a couple of times, I will start with like $20, go all in and either win or loss is the option. When I win, I go all in with my balance because I was targeting to hit $1 million compounded from $20. Somethings I will build the funds to a couple of hundred dollars and then lose them all only to start all over again. With time I realised that this pattern is not sustainable so I have to resort to gambling with single digit percentage of my account balance per session and also controlling how ofter I gamble. This way I will always remain in the game even after several losses.

Reading your post can also help beginners not to get addicted. Because it's actually a dangerous plan, to reach $1 million from $20. It can be addictive, I would say. I think that beginners should understand one simple thing: there's no way to create a plan that works surely in gambling. You can win by chance with any plan, but what will happen most likely is you lose everything if your plan implies betting all-in all the time.

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May 17, 2024, 01:48:10 PM
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There's nothing bad in good positive emotions, like those that we experience when we are winning, but usually aggressiveness is not one of them good emotions we should seek for.
Gambling should never be aggressive because the chances of losing is higher than that of winning. If you are aggressive, before the winning will come, you might run out of money. I have tried aggressive gambling a couple of times, I will start with like $20, go all in and either win or loss is the option. When I win, I go all in with my balance because I was targeting to hit $1 million compounded from $20. Somethings I will build the funds to a couple of hundred dollars and then lose them all only to start all over again. With time I realised that this pattern is not sustainable so I have to resort to gambling with single digit percentage of my account balance per session and also controlling how ofter I gamble. This way I will always remain in the game even after several losses.

Reading your post can also help beginners not to get addicted. Because it's actually a dangerous plan, to reach $1 million from $20. It can be addictive, I would say. I think that beginners should understand one simple thing: there's no way to create a plan that works surely in gambling. You can win by chance with any plan, but what will happen most likely is you lose everything if your plan implies betting all-in all the time.

True, I agree with your opinion that all gamblers can only win by chance in any way but sometimes without any way they can still win because actually only luck can make someone win in gambling, so there is no need to be too encouraged by various strategies, because when you put your hopes on strategies then usually you will be more likely to feel disappointed at the end of the session, as you said because after all there is absolutely no plan that can guarantee victory in gambling, in the end it is still if you are lucky then you will win.

On the other hand reaching a winning amount of $1 million using a capital of $20 is obviously hard to believe, although for example any possibility can always happen in gambling especially when you are really very lucky, but honestly it is hard to believe because not everyone can really go through the process easily, and I would be quite confident if the capital amount was more than $20.

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May 17, 2024, 01:58:14 PM
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One thing I know for sure, no one can help you more than you can help yourself. There is nothing wrong with gambling but, there is everything wrong with being gambling addict. Even some gambling site do ask of you, to gamble responsibly. That’s to say, you shouldn’t be addicted to gambling but even so, the gambling site don’t get to draw the lines for you. That’s up to you to decide where you can call enough!

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as you said, people need to set limits so that they don't get addicted to gambling due to excessive gambling. usually casinos provide several features that gamblers can use to regulate their limits, such as deposit limits, self-exclusion, etc. these are features that can help gamblers if they think that they cannot regulate themselves. these features really help gamblers and prevent them from playing excessively which can cause addiction to them.

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