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May 15, 2024, 08:39:42 PM
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But many of them give reminders that everyone should gamble moderately. They have no control over the emotions of their gamblers and that's why there's the reminder and a feature about self exclusion. There have been gamblers that have used that feature when they can't help themselves and that actually worked for some. Still, it depends on how we look at gambling and how extreme our addiction is. If you get to know more about yourself and you understand the hardship of controlling your emotion as you gamble, you better stop doing that while there's time or before it gets worse.

It's true, it all depends on yourself, even if you have this feature, but if you initially reacted wrongly to gambling then there is nothing that can stop you from feeling like gambling. I found that there is a person in my area who is seriously addicted to gambling. There have been various ways to make him aware not to gamble again because it will only make him experience the ruin of his life, but nothing can stop him from gambling, even with his partner or with his family, when he becomes addicted, they themselves can make him aware and stop his bad habit. other people may only be able to remind and advise and after that it all depends on the perpetrator.

For beginners who are new to gambling, I hope they can see that there are many people who cannot control themselves so that they experience many bad effects, namely the destruction of their lives periodically. sooner or later if they respond wrongly to gambling then they can become addicted to gambling. Don't assume that gambling can make you money for sure, because that's not true. It's best to gamble appropriately, including with your thoughts too.
It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
Even if someone is really just that starting, it wont really be just that right that you would really be telling them about on how things should be done. We do know that not all people would really be that directly be playing just because they do hope on getting rich with gambling. There are still those people who are really just that playing for fun. You would really be seeing yourself that being awkward
if you are telling someone on how they should gonna be spending up their money on which we know that its not really just that right on telling someone on what are the things that they would be doing but if this someone is really that your friend or close to you then it wont really be that a bad idea on telling them about those warnings about gambling addiction.

It is really that hard on making someone to be that mindful about their gambling dealing or engagement because people do have different minds or approach towards it.
Addiction could neither be severe or not basing up on whats their taking about gambling.

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May 15, 2024, 10:07:43 PM
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A gambler should have self control and always gamble with a levelled head, never allowing your emotions substitute your brains and start making decisions for you,

This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.

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May 15, 2024, 10:24:20 PM
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A gambler should have self control and always gamble with a levelled head, never allowing your emotions substitute your brains and start making decisions for you,

This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.
And top of that, there's no pure logic in our brain, as everything is always mixed with emotions. They aren't substituting anything, because they literally are made by our brain and part of how our brain operates and makes decisions. That "self control" comes from our limbic system can keep those emotions in check so we can take a breath and evaluate situation before acting, but we are not supposed to ignore the feelings as some sort of negative thing. They are really helpful tool to us when used with reason. And part of fun why we are gambiing in the first place.

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May 16, 2024, 07:40:05 AM
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What you say is very true, there are no tips that can prevent us from being addicted to gambling and for some people who can learn from their mistakes they will certainly be able to stop gambling after they realize they have spent money on things they don't really need, but for some people who cannot learn from the mistakes they make in gambling will of course continue to gamble until they have a lot of problems, especially in financial terms because they spend a lot of money on their gambling habits, so I think in this case it would be better for us to continue to have limits when gambling so that we don't experience things we don't want.
If they themselves can be aware that the gambling they do can make them addicted and suffer losses then it is possible that they can stop or at least be able to restrain themselves from gambling excessively because they know that if they gamble excessively it will not be profitable. them in the future. by learning from mistakes, they can happen if they are aware of themselves, because we know that someone who has gambled and has been consumed by the word winning will usually not easily realize it, they will continue to chase the victory they want.
On the other hand, for those who cannot learn from their mistakes, they will never realize that the gambling they do can cause them to suffer losses. This is very unfortunate, but indeed everyone has their own thoughts, so it is not surprising that many of them are addicted to gambling because they want to gain money. victory. It's true what you said, one of the keys is limits, we must be able to have certain limits and must set them so as not to engage in excessive gambling which can clearly have a negative impact on our finances.

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May 16, 2024, 12:28:47 PM
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It's true, it all depends on yourself, even if you have this feature, but if you initially reacted wrongly to gambling then there is nothing that can stop you from feeling like gambling. I found that there is a person in my area who is seriously addicted to gambling. There have been various ways to make him aware not to gamble again because it will only make him experience the ruin of his life, but nothing can stop him from gambling, even with his partner or with his family, when he becomes addicted, they themselves can make him aware and stop his bad habit. other people may only be able to remind and advise and after that it all depends on the perpetrator.

For beginners who are new to gambling, I hope they can see that there are many people who cannot control themselves so that they experience many bad effects, namely the destruction of their lives periodically. sooner or later if they respond wrongly to gambling then they can become addicted to gambling. Don't assume that gambling can make you money for sure, because that's not true. It's best to gamble appropriately, including with your thoughts too.
It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.

It's true, when they become addicted to gambling, it will be difficult for them to accept advice from other people, even from their family, because they will only focus on what they want and by continuing to gamble, they won't be able to improve the situation even though there is a chance to do so. win but there is very little chance of getting a win at gambling, especially with a big win which is almost impossible to get if they don't have luck at gambling.

and I think that those who are addicted don't want to be advised because they still have high egos so they don't want to listen to other people's words, doing what they think is right by gambling, for example, even though they only get losses and defeats, they still do it because they are already addicted to gambling so that there is nothing that can make them stop gambling other than themselves realizing that the gambling they are doing is too excessive.

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May 16, 2024, 12:42:47 PM
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This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.
And top of that, there's no pure logic in our brain, as everything is always mixed with emotions. They aren't substituting anything, because they literally are made by our brain and part of how our brain operates and makes decisions. That "self control" comes from our limbic system can keep those emotions in check so we can take a breath and evaluate situation before acting, but we are not supposed to ignore the feelings as some sort of negative thing. They are really helpful tool to us when used with reason. And part of fun why we are gambiing in the first place.

True, I agree with your point that everything is mixed in the brain, sometimes it's really hard to ignore emotions because they keep pressuring our brains to do various things that can cause a sense of satisfaction, so maybe because of this people sometimes lose consciousness and instead express their emotions blindly just to find satisfaction, such as taking risks that are far greater than they can be responsible for.

And this is also the reason why self-control becomes very difficult to do, on the other hand I am sure that there are some of them who understand that emotions can make everything messy and make them experience worse things, but they have a low level of patience in themselves so it is difficult to completely ignore the feelings of emotion that are in themselves so that various out of control things happen.

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May 16, 2024, 02:59:54 PM
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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.

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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.
Do not be stubborn that the advice of the closest person is very important for us to prevent excessive ugliness, so never consider yourself the most righteous.
That in gambling sometimes has a high emotional sense when you lose and you deposit back to play hoping to recover again but that is a sign that the addiction has begun to get out of control.

I always set a bankroll for gambling so that there is a limit when it runs out then stop and take a break once finances recover then you can go back to gambling for the fun of it.

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May 16, 2024, 03:47:35 PM
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I hope that beginners can see the many cases of bad effects that occur due to excessive gambling, by seeing and being aware of this, maybe they will not gamble excessively, such as by being obsessed with getting a win that is impossible to get according to what they want. . We must be able to play gambling, don't let gambling play us. Indeed, excessive gambling is a trigger for addiction and greater losses. If the advice is given, it is definitely done by those closest to them, but the control is entirely within themselves, if they still insist on winning at gambling then the advice they get will probably be simply ignored.
That's right, for beginners they should be able to realize that they can learn valuable lessons from the bad experiences experienced by experienced gamblers and they should stay away from these bad behaviors as much as possible.
And I agree with you, if we receive good advice from other people and we can do it then we will not experience a big impact in gambling and we will also prevent addictive behavior as a result of excessive gambling.


How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start?  We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling



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May 16, 2024, 03:53:18 PM
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But many of them give reminders that everyone should gamble moderately. They have no control over the emotions of their gamblers and that's why there's the reminder and a feature about self exclusion. There have been gamblers that have used that feature when they can't help themselves and that actually worked for some. Still, it depends on how we look at gambling and how extreme our addiction is. If you get to know more about yourself and you understand the hardship of controlling your emotion as you gamble, you better stop doing that while there's time or before it gets worse.

It's true, it all depends on yourself, even if you have this feature, but if you initially reacted wrongly to gambling then there is nothing that can stop you from feeling like gambling. I found that there is a person in my area who is seriously addicted to gambling. There have been various ways to make him aware not to gamble again because it will only make him experience the ruin of his life, but nothing can stop him from gambling, even with his partner or with his family, when he becomes addicted, they themselves can make him aware and stop his bad habit. other people may only be able to remind and advise and after that it all depends on the perpetrator.

For beginners who are new to gambling, I hope they can see that there are many people who cannot control themselves so that they experience many bad effects, namely the destruction of their lives periodically. sooner or later if they respond wrongly to gambling then they can become addicted to gambling. Don't assume that gambling can make you money for sure, because that's not true. It's best to gamble appropriately, including with your thoughts too.
It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

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You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

Actually it doesn't  matter the amount of advice or knowledge acquired by a beginner before going into gambling. Is how they make use of those knowledge in their gambling sections. Because most individuals only have the knowledge but they don't apply it in their gambling sections. Like for instance an individual is aware that in gambling is either one win or lose , but still whenever they undergo some losses they usually lose it and start chasing after those losses , betting inorder to get what they have loss back . And such act is example of irresponsible gambling.

So what am trying to say is that, one should always apply what he or she have learned as a beginner in whatever they are doing either in gambling or in some other related areas.

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What you say is very true, there are no tips that can prevent us from being addicted to gambling and for some people who can learn from their mistakes they will certainly be able to stop gambling after they realize they have spent money on things they don't really need, but for some people who cannot learn from the mistakes they make in gambling will of course continue to gamble until they have a lot of problems, especially in financial terms because they spend a lot of money on their gambling habits, so I think in this case it would be better for us to continue to have limits when gambling so that we don't experience things we don't want.
There are always tips and advice that help gamblers to reduce their addiction to gambling, but to overcome addiction, gamblers need to have awareness and responsibility. Being a responsible gambler basically doesn't make you less addicted, it's just that being a responsible gambler doesn't have too much of an impact on the effects of addiction.

Addiction can be categorized into several phases from the lowest to the compulsive phase. In the early stages, it is not very difficult for gamblers to get rid of their addiction, but when they become compulsive gamblers, the effects of addiction will be very difficult to overcome without expert help or treatment.
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It's hard to control or remind anymore someone that's already addicted. We can tell them to do what they have to do as a guide for them but it won't be possible for them to follow as soon as they've hear it from us. There's also an ego matters on this one when they can no longer listen to the others because they're already addicted. The pride is there and their ears are already closed because one thing for them is to only chase their losses or if they're not in losses, they'd keep up with their potential profits and will continue to do so.
You are right that it is very difficult to get someone addicted to gambling back or to provide them with any advice. Over addiction began to damage his mental health a lot and then he fell into gambling addiction. His addiction may be for extra gain or extra loss. However, his close friends should take the leading role in this case to withdraw from addiction.

Overall yes it is true that addiction is a situation where someone is very difficult to give advice even though the advice is actually for their own good, it is because they are very stubborn and already have a different mindset from normal people in addressing gambling, usually someone who is addicted always believes and believes that they will be able to get a big win in their gambling activities that can change their fate to become a rich man for example, and if you continue to advise them then there is a possibility that they will think that you are someone who is too interfering with other people's affairs or can also cause a split in the social relationship between you and the person.

This is one of the reasons why addiction is very difficult to cure, none other than because they have entered a chronic mindset that is too sure of winning in gambling, when it is clear that the more they gamble, the possibility of losing will be greater. And if you already feel tired in terms of giving advice to them then I think let it go because in the end they will also definitely realize that what they are doing is wrong, especially when someday they experience a significant downturn that makes them really feel traumatized.

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May 16, 2024, 07:54:03 PM
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One of the most important thing In gambling is ti understand it and know some gambling instructions and this will make you know the good part and bad part of the gambling and to even understand how to predict very well, it will help that record lower losses than  winning, and it how to suppose to be, not everytime you gamble, what ever you do should be the right decision

the thing is that most of the people won't read instructions... the worst part of gambling is probably when it goes out of control and your habits outgrow your power of will
making you impotent on deciding what to do and unable to control yourself (stopping when you want to stop)

it's is possible to gamble responsibly but for some it'll be very hard...

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A gambler should have self control and always gamble with a levelled head, never allowing your emotions substitute your brains and start making decisions for you,

This is the ideal, what happens is that many find it very difficult to follow these conditions, because without realizing it sometimes self-control fails, especially when you are a novice, because it is very easy to get carried away by the things that are there. more useful, such as to win money, if a novice plays out of necessity, the danger is greater, because he will play with pressure, with stress and with the obligation to win, otherwise things will get worse, so we have to be aware of what is happening to us. is happening when we are putting money in, that is why it is better to only control the money, rather than the emotions, since emotions are something natural, but money is our fault if it is lost more than normal.
And top of that, there's no pure logic in our brain, as everything is always mixed with emotions. They aren't substituting anything, because they literally are made by our brain and part of how our brain operates and makes decisions. That "self control" comes from our limbic system can keep those emotions in check so we can take a breath and evaluate situation before acting, but we are not supposed to ignore the feelings as some sort of negative thing. They are really helpful tool to us when used with reason. And part of fun why we are gambiing in the first place.

Yes, it is a fact, but things should always be like this with a certain amount of confidence, or maybe it is that games of chance are made so that we lose control of our emcoins and our money to win more , it is simple, in the games of chance, in casinos, the player who had a high Financial culture always wins, because we have not seen a Warren Buffet, Kiyosaki, or even a Trump addicted to casinos, that does not happen because they are people who are clear about what they are made for It is gambling, and it is a fact that when they play, if they play at all, it is with very little money, because they know that it is money that they are losing.

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May 16, 2024, 10:01:47 PM
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How many of us can do that if someone can show newbies with evidence of the evils of tides so they can take precautions from the start?  We ourselves are busy with our own work and it is natural that everyone is busy with his own work and if he gets some free time he likes to do entertainment in various ways, a part of which may be gambling, watching movies, watching sports etc. But if someone chooses gambling as a profession or tries to choose it as a source of income, they must face many pitfalls. Therefore, from the beginning of gambling, it is possible to protect only if one can show someone with evidence the bad aspects of gambling
It's not that difficult to show pieces of evidence that gambling isn't a business where we could make money out of it. Most of the time we are losers in this industry.
Play the game for a while and you will see in your graph what I am talking about. The game summary. In 20k of bets, I can always see the house edge winning in most of my games. Therefore, I just think of it as a wagering game where you want to wager more increase your VIP rank, and maybe take advantage of the bonuses and raffles that a gambling site gives out. When it comes to hitting that biggest multiplier, it's not that easy. We will have to spend more money than what we will get. It's better if in those moments we could at least enjoy what we did than playing the game with the purpose of beating the house because that's impossible.
That truth will make a beginner think twice about spending too much.

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May 16, 2024, 10:40:25 PM
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the thing is that most of the people won't read instructions... the worst part of gambling is probably when it goes out of control and your habits outgrow your power of will
making you impotent on deciding what to do and unable to control yourself (stopping when you want to stop)

it's is possible to gamble responsibly but for some it'll be very hard...
When people don't read instructions or don't care at all about them, I fear their only chance is to learn on practice by their own mistakes. Many of us here have already learned that way, so I think it's not bad at all, since you are able to get a valuable lesson from these experiences in the end.

It's just bad when the gambler commits mistakes and instead of learning something with them, he keeps commiting more and more mistakes, repeating patterns while expecting the results are going to be different.

We can understand mistakes from newbies or beginners, because it's part of the process of getting familiarized with an activity you never had any contact before, however, I really can't understand such mistakes from experienced gamblers as something natural, rather I see them as something pathological.

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Maybe the first thing I will do is provide basic knowledge about what gambling is and how someone can potentially become addicted to it. After he understands how someone can be addicted to gambling and how to avoid it, then I will ask him to activate the responsible gambling features on his account, such as time limit, reality check, etc., because these features are very useful for novice gamblers so that they don't exposed to gambling for too long which has the potential to make them addicted.
Someone can still claim to understand everything you told them about gambling addiction and how to avoid it and still end up getting addicted when, at the end of the day, it happens. It's easier the way they say it than to keep to it. 
 
So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.

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Maybe the first thing I will do is provide basic knowledge about what gambling is and how someone can potentially become addicted to it. After he understands how someone can be addicted to gambling and how to avoid it, then I will ask him to activate the responsible gambling features on his account, such as time limit, reality check, etc., because these features are very useful for novice gamblers so that they don't exposed to gambling for too long which has the potential to make them addicted.
Someone can still claim to understand everything you told them about gambling addiction and how to avoid it and still end up getting addicted when, at the end of the day, it happens. It's easier the way they say it than to keep to it. 
 
So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.

Trying to get someone interested in responsible gambling require lots of efforts. Including for the newbies. Some people don't have any experience in gambling despite their multiple years in the gambling world. This shows how little a helping hand for responsible gambling is in the niche. I think it'll be hard to reach out to the right ones who would listen to such a good method about setting up limitations on their device. Maybe get alert once the time exhaust. But, that wouldn't drag the player away from the slot machine. Expecially when the game tends to get better. People have their ways of responding to things and not everyone thinks they're doing the wrong thing at the right time. Some people gamble at the right time but fail to gain happiness afterwards.

The money is what gets people addicted in gambling. Money makes people excited. And excitement brought most people to gambling. Telling them about a method that doesn't guarantee winning enough money wouldn't interest the person. Because his source of joy and excitement could be driven from the wins in gambling. I think checking up on them while playing is the right method. But who does get the chance of policing a fellow gambler. Another problem of it is that non gamblers can't help in teaching new gamblers because they don't know much of these things. The only available help are also busy with their personal gambling journey. That's why it seems that newbies don't often get help from experienced players. Like a planned thing, all player must make the early mistakes of their gambling journey, if they had no helping hand.

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May 16, 2024, 11:24:50 PM
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So for the start, even when they say they are good to go, it will be better and safer to be checking up on them and asking about how they have been able to manage their bankroll to be sure if they are still in the country or not. Nowadays,  it's very easy for newbie gamblers to get addicted due to the high level of lose-chasing they have conceived in their minds.
One thing I know for sure, no one can help you more than you can help yourself. There is nothing wrong with gambling but, there is everything wrong with being gambling addict. Even some gambling site do ask of you, to gamble responsibly. That’s to say, you shouldn’t be addicted to gambling but even so, the gambling site don’t get to draw the lines for you. That’s up to you to decide where you can call enough!

Hence, for you to help someone in helping themselves, that addict needs to understand that he or she is actually addicted and this addiction isn’t helping. Let the addict come to terms with that and then, you could aid them to actually seeing a way out through gradual withdrawal to some safe gambling. Let them see the changes it brings and they might stick to a green gambling habit.

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