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Author Topic: Potential Match Fixing involving Finnish teams FC Futura and Ilves-Kissat  (Read 2283 times)
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May 29, 2024, 12:14:09 AM
Last edit: May 29, 2024, 12:31:05 AM by FairlaySupport
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In a recent case of alleged match-fixing, Fairlay removed 799mBTC from an account belonging to an Ukrainian individual. The user was issued a life-time ban and may no longer use any service we provide. Other bookmakers have marked the below mentioned matches as highly suspicious but still graded them. Fairlay has made the decision to not follow suit.  

The user is now seeking independent arbitration to handle the conflict with us.

In order to send out a clear message, that our platform may not be used for any kind of fraud and to inform other parties about a potential ongoing fraud around certain teams and players, we will do this publicly. We have gathered overwhelming evidence, that the matches the individual was betting on, were indeed fixed.

The user and Fairlay still need to agree to a specific arbitration party. If you feel qualified to handle the case, you may apply in this thread. The arbitration fee we are willing to pay is 0.005 BTC. If you have further supporting or opposing evidence regarding this case, please post in this thread!

Part of the evidence is released as follows:

FIRST SUSPICIOUS MATCH: FC KIFFEN VS. FC FUTURA (MAY 12)

Details of the match:
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/12/finland/kakkonen/fc-kiffen-08/futura/4323169/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4rC7403Dc4

Six orders were placed on May 12, with a total net profit of 1,181.81 mBTC. Orders were -4.25 and -4.50 handicap orders on FC Kiffen against FC Futura in Finland – Kakkonen Group A.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 23th and 28th minute of the match (the current result being 1-0 for FC Kiffen), and they were all winning orders as FC Kiffen won the match 6-1.

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

16th minute – FC FUTURA player Bazhan getting a direct red card for unnecessary foul (1:35 in highlights)
25th minute – FC FUTURA player Moyseev getting a yellow card for unnecessary foul (2:05 in highlights)
29th minute – FC FUTURA player Sinitsyn scoring a rather clumsy own goal (2:25 in highlights)
Also, FC FUTURA goalkeeper Kazakov was not putting much effort in doing his job.

It is interesting to note that all four players noted in the suspicious activity were Ukrainian players.

SECOND SUSPICIOUS MATCH: ILVES KISSAT VS. TAMPERE UNITED (MAY 19)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk

Six orders were placed on May 19, with a total net profit of 1,132.33 mBTC. Orders were -3.75 and -4.0 handicap orders on Tampere United away at Ilves Kissat in Finland – Kakkonen Group B.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 14th and 19th minute of the match (current result being 1-0 for Tampere United), and they were all winning orders as Tampere United won the match 6-1.

With four Ukrainian players being included in the first suspicious match, it should be more than a coincidence that Ilves Kissat is the only team in the league that has Ukrainian players, and not only one but six.

One of those players was Kasperovych, which has done an awful job in the given match.

THIRD SUSPICIOUS MATCH: TPV TAMPERE VS. ILVES KISSAT (APRIL 24)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk&t

Two orders were placed on April 24, with a total net profit of 372.01 mBTC. Both were Over 3.5 orders. Both were placed between the 20th and 21st minute of the match (current result being 0-0), and both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of four goals (TPV Tampere won 3-1).

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

48th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Indutnyi conceding a penalty (2:30 in highlights)
57th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Patjas scoring an own goal (3:30 in highlights)
78th minute – ILVES KISSAT goalkeeper Kasperovych easily conceding a goal (4:10 in highlights)


OTHER SUSPICOUS MATCHES:

Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres (Brazil – Pernambucano U20, May 18):
https://ke.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/18/brazil/pernambucano-u20/centro-limoeirense-u20/atletico-torres-u20/4347487/

Nine orders were placed on May 18, with total net profit of 527.63 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Clube Atletico Torres. One was -4.25 order, two were -5.0 orders, three were -5.25 orders, three were -5.5 orders. All nine were winning orders as Clube Atletico Torres won 7-0.

Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro (Brazil – Paulista U20, May 17):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/17/brazil/paulista-u20/botafogo-sp-u19/inter-de-bebedouro-u20/4343121/

Eight orders were placed on May 17, with a total net profit of 758.98 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Botafogo FC SP. Three were -2.5 orders, one was -2.75 order, four were -3.0 orders. All eight were winning orders as Botafogo FC SP won 10-1.

Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat (Finland – Kakkonen Group B, April 11):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/04/11/finland/kakkonen/ilves-ii/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/4323304/

Two orders were placed on April 16, with a total net profit of 217.75 mBTC. They were Over 3.75 and Over 4.0 orders. Both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of five goals (Tampereen Ilves II won 5-0).

Finland’s Kakkonen league already has a history of match-fixing. Recently there were cases of match-fixing in Brazil as well. Several of them in the Paulista Football Federation, that the user was involved in as well.


BETTING HISTORY of the user:


Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.259   Ilves Kissat +4.0   98.99   05/19/2024 12:18   124.68   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.519   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:17   227.96   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.169   Ilves Kissat +3.75   149.99   05/19/2024 12:16   175.43   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.209   Ilves Kissat +3.75   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   181.37   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.639   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   245.90   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.769   Ilves Kissat +4.0   100.00   05/19/2024 12:13   176.99   05/19/2024 12:44
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.069   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.65   05/18/2024 13:25   53.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.653   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:25   32.67   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.892   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.00   05/18/2024 13:24   43.75   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.089   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.67   05/18/2024 13:24   54.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.909   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.99   05/18/2024 13:24   45.45   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.179   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   74.70   05/18/2024 13:23   88.10   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.019   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   50.96   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.787   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   39.37   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.618   Centro Limoeirense +4.25   74.22   05/18/2024 13:17   120.11   05/18/2024 13:50
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.990   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   70.00   05/17/2024 18:42   69.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.790   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   125.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.730   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   121.10   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.917   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   80.00   05/17/2024 18:40   73.36   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.490   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   104.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.180   Botafogo FC SP -2.75   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   82.60   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.070   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   74.00   05/17/2024 18:39   79.18   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.760   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   59.00   05/17/2024 18:38   103.84   05/17/2024 19:11
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.840   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   184.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.580   FC Kiffen -4.25   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   158.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.700   FC Kiffen -4.25   130.00   05/12/2024 13:25   221.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.790   FC Kiffen -4.25   139.00   05/12/2024 13:22   248.81   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   1.943   FC Kontu +0.75   31.00   05/09/2024 11:14   31.00   05/09/2024 12:28
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   2.640   FC Kontu +0.25   29.00   05/09/2024 11:13   29.00   05/09/2024 11:43
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   3.050   FC Kontu +0.0   29.11   05/09/2024 11:11   29.11   05/09/2024 11:43
Al Faisaly Harmah vs. Al Ahli Jeddah   1.840   Over 2.0   1.00   05/07/2024 13:10   0.84   05/07/2024 15:11
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.943   Over 3.5   197.00   04/24/2024 16:20   185.77   04/24/2024 17:21
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.970   Over 3.5   192.00   04/24/2024 16:19   186.24   04/24/2024 17:21
Ilves Kissat vs. SexyPoxyt   1.854   Ilves Kissat -1.5   0.99   04/20/2024 10:49   0.99   04/20/2024 12:05
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.952   EBK -2.0   5.00   04/16/2024 17:10   0.00   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.662   EBK -1.75   10.00   04/16/2024 17:09   3.31   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.632   EBK -1.75   20.00   04/16/2024 17:09   6.32   04/16/2024 18:21
FC Futura vs. MyPa   1.909   FC Futura +0.0   20.00   04/13/2024 14:31   0.00   04/13/2024 15:48
FC Futura vs. MyPa   2.470   Over 2.5   1.00   04/13/2024 13:43   1.00   04/13/2024 15:25
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.819   Over 4.0   44.00   04/11/2024 16:30   36.03   04/11/2024 17:21
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.826   Over 3.75   220.00   04/11/2024 16:21   181.72   04/11/2024 17:21
Cdp Junior FC vs. Millonarios FC   2.390   Over 2.25   99.00   03/23/2024 21:12   137.61   03/23/2024 22:21

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May 29, 2024, 01:40:46 AM
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i asked in the main thread, but did not get an answer.

This situation is a nice opportunity to actually rephrase my question

so here it is :

were the bets in this case actually matched on/by Pinnacle, i.e. Pinnacle was the market maker ?



for those of you not aware, Fairlay is actually an exchange, kind of like Betair, where anybody can create a market and accept bets on it. Alternatively anybody can bet on markets created by others.

there is always a sporting offer on Fairlay, the markets are exactly as on Pinnacle with the exact same odds. Fairlays terms and conditions mention that they actually use Pinnacle terms and conditions. From some posts and comments i also understood that Pinnacle is the default market maker.

thats why i asked if the above mentioned bets on potential match fixing games were actually matched on/by Pinnacle.
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May 29, 2024, 06:19:24 AM
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Interesting. That's a lot of evidence against op and I feel like your team did the right thing here since he clearly took advantage of fixed matches in a pretty transparent manner and expected to get away since your site is a betting exchange.

thats why i asked if the above mentioned bets on potential match fixing games were actually matched on/by Pinnacle.
They probably were matched by Pinnacle since they aren't immune to fixed matches or anything though I am curious as to why you are concerned about this link.

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May 29, 2024, 07:45:17 AM
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forgive me for my ignorance, but in a case where this person is the bettor and you are the bookmaker, you should contact the Ukrainian football federation or the governing bodies of those leagues in which this guy placed bets, report that these games are fixed and when the highest bodies of these federations prove that they really are fixed games and that the bettor is also part of the scheme, Is when you could punish the bettor, but in this case you are already punishing the player even though you have not shown proof that The governing bodies of these leagues in which he has placed bets have proven that he is involved in fixed games and that all the games he has bet on are fixed

because I keep asking myself the following: the user is Ukrainian, but according to you he was also involved in fixed Brazilian football matches, in Brazil they speak Portuguese, so how would he be able to understand Portuguese and how he combined with the football players from brazil involved in the fixed game scheme? Is something very strange. I'm not here to defend this Ukrainian guy, I just think that your proof that this guy is involved in fixed matches should come from the police and the highest football bodies in those leagues. what you have are suspicions

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May 29, 2024, 08:09:06 AM
Last edit: May 29, 2024, 08:31:40 AM by LFC_Bitcoin
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The red cards, own goals & particularly goalkeeping performances certainly point towards the potential of likely match fixing.

The problem you have is that it’s very difficult to prove match fixing unless you have a confession from somebody involved or intercept communication between those involved which clearly isn’t going to happen.

sportsbet.io had a very similar situation a few years ago, they ended up reaching an agreement with the bettor. I don’t know if you have solid enough evidence to outright dismiss any payment of winnings, even though it looks like potential match fixing. It’s not what you know/think it’s what you can prove. Perhaps an agreement would need to be made & some kind of settlement paid to the bettor.


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May 29, 2024, 08:13:35 AM
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forgive me for my ignorance, but in a case where this person is the bettor and you are the bookmaker, you should contact the Ukrainian football federation or the governing bodies of those leagues in which this guy placed bets, report that these games are fixed and when the highest bodies of these federations prove that they really are fixed games and that the bettor is also part of the scheme, Is when you could punish the bettor, but in this case you are already punishing the player even though you have not shown proof that The governing bodies of these leagues in which he has placed bets have proven that he is involved in fixed games and that all the games he has bet on are fixed

because I keep asking myself the following: the user is Ukrainian, but according to you he was also involved in fixed Brazilian football matches, in Brazil they speak Portuguese, so how would he be able to understand Portuguese and how he combined with the football players from brazil involved in the fixed game scheme? Is something very strange. I'm not here to defend this Ukrainian guy, I just think that your proof that this guy is involved in fixed matches should come from the police and the highest football bodies in those leagues. what you have are suspicions

Actually almost the whole history is games from Finnland and Brazil by the way.
Also, how could they even publish the betting history of a user without his consent? Isn't there something like privacy on fairlay? Seems like there is none.
As long as games are internationally not flagged as fixed games then they are nit fixed, even if it looks like it.

By the way, fairley is a betting exchange, how can you just keep the money? He didn't play against the house but against other players. Shouldn't this money go back to the players that lost against him???

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May 29, 2024, 08:17:02 AM
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If you will confiscate profit made on this specific matches then you should refund also all the bets made on this specific match that loss.

I find this match fixing allegations to players as highly dangerous in both operators and players since there’s no way to prove if the game is actually fixed match or just shitty game since players sometimes play awful for that day.

Can you release the full betting history of this player before this alleged fixed match to check whether he is just having a tough luck or really match fixing involvment.

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May 29, 2024, 08:37:24 AM
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Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

16th minute – FC FUTURA player Bazhan getting a direct red card for unnecessary foul (1:35 in highlights)
25th minute – FC FUTURA player Moyseev getting a yellow card for unnecessary foul (2:05 in highlights)
29th minute – FC FUTURA player Sinitsyn scoring a rather clumsy own goal (2:25 in highlights)
Also, FC FUTURA goalkeeper Kazakov was not putting much effort in doing his job.

It is interesting to note that all four players noted in the suspicious activity were Ukrainian players.
I have only been able to watch this highlight and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary, just two mismatched teams with one obviously better prepared than the other. I have seen more cynical res card and yellow card challenges in the top leaus with no hint of monkey business going on and I have also seen worse goal keeper performances even in a Champions league final match.

The most I think you can do with these "evidence" is to investigate further till you get solid proof of match fixing, without that withholding the user funds is a hasty and unfair judgement.

If all matches are scrutinized anyone can come up with situations they feel was out of the ordinary, and any match can be tagged fixed.

You could of course be right in your suspicion, but suspicion is not proof.

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May 29, 2024, 08:59:26 AM
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forgive me for my ignorance, but in a case where this person is the bettor and you are the bookmaker, you should contact the Ukrainian football federation or the governing bodies of those leagues in which this guy placed bets, report that these games are fixed and when the highest bodies of these federations prove that they really are fixed games and that the bettor is also part of the scheme, Is when you could punish the bettor, but in this case you are already punishing the player even though you have not shown proof that The governing bodies of these leagues in which he has placed bets have proven that he is involved in fixed games and that all the games he has bet on are fixed
I think to reach the body and legal things it will require a long time, if the OP and his team allows the abuser to continue with their abuse then they will just withdraw the funds and never coming back again.

It's will be better to freeze the accounts and then go for legal things.

It looks obvious that it's fixed and a team effort. So many coincidence, not real to happen.

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They probably were matched by Pinnacle since they aren't immune to fixed matches or anything though I am curious as to why you are concerned about this link.

my question had no connection to the current case. I asked the same thing in the main Fairlay thread but was not answered there. That thread is not very active and before this situation the fairlay guys did not participate in it for a very long time. I just asked here to have a better chance of being answered.

I just wanted to better understand the Fairlay system itself as i heard that all of the bets are actually matched by Pinnacle. Just wanted to confirm that. Thanks
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Hi BitcoinTalk Community! as i wrote in the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg64133108#msg64133108), i am the person in this unfortunate situation.

The Fairlay team spent some time and performed a big job presenting you many links and a lot of information.
While this factual information may be accurate, it is certainly not complete.

I dont have the resources and manpower of a big bookmaker/exchange/casino, so please allow me some time to present you all the facts and explain the situation from my side.

For now I want to stress that from my side, and I stress this very important fact again - from my side, I have done nothing illegal or even wrong.

As I said before, please allow me time to clarify the whole situation in this thread before making any conclusions or assumptions on my case. 

Also please remember, that anybody is not guilty, unless proven guilty.
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Hi BitcoinTalk Community! as i wrote in the other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=673475.msg64133108#msg64133108), i am the person in this unfortunate situation.

The Fairlay team spent some time and performed a big job presenting you many links and a lot of information.
While this factual information may be accurate, it is certainly not complete.

I dont have the resources and manpower of a big bookmaker/exchange/casino, so please allow me some time to present you all the facts and explain the situation from my side.

For now I want to stress that from my side, and I stress this very important fact again - from my side, I have done nothing illegal or even wrong.

As I said before, please allow me time to clarify the whole situation in this thread before making any conclusions or assumptions on my case. 

Also please remember, that anybody is not guilty, unless proven guilty.

They are unusual bets on very low quality games. You have to accept that Fairlay are justified to question your integrity.

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First thing I did not like was that the Fairlay team forgot to mention the whole information about my account in general.

They selectively posted a part of my bet history which can mistakenly lead some people to believe that my account with Fairlay was created solely for the purpose of cheating them and making money by organizing fixed matches in Finland, Brazil, Colombia and Saudi Arabia.

Of course they did not mention that my account was created almost 5 years ago and that in that time I have made a deposit of 0.331 BTC and after a series of bets was able to withdraw only about 0.184 BTC, so roughly 0.150 BTC lost.

After that I did not use Fairlay for a long time and made my next deposit only at the beginning of March.

The deposit was more than 4 times lower than the initial one.

Through a series of smaller bets (interestingly enough not mentioned by Fairlay in their presented "evidence") I was able to accumulate a little over 0.1 BTC (from the deposit of 0.075) and took a small pause.

This is where I decided to use a new, very different and very risky betting strategy, yet, this whole time I was risking only the initial deposit of 0.075 BTC (which is almost 5 times lower than the deposit to Fairlay i made almost 5 years ago).

Many more posts will follow, I just want to structure the information from my side in a better, easier to understand way.
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I have few questions for OP:
since your platform is a betting exchange, some users have placed also their bets...
@fairlay did you notice some extra-range/outliers value?
I mean, in this case, if gambler know a match is fixing he will take even lower odds since it's a sure win...
Meanwhile people that choose to bet a certain odd would avoid if it's clearly "strange value"...
other bookmakers have granted payment of these matches?
this user has only win bets?
this user has placed high amounts only in winning matches?

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Hahaha, almost missed it, i just noticed, this is really ridiculous. 

Apparently Fairlay tried to trick the bitcointalk community into thinking that all the bets i have taken on these allegedly fixed games were won. The following is a copy/paste of the part of the bet history Fairlay posted in their original post:

FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   1.943   FC Kontu +0.75   31.00   05/09/2024 11:14   31.00   05/09/2024 12:28
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   2.640   FC Kontu +0.25   29.00   05/09/2024 11:13   29.00   05/09/2024 11:43
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   3.050   FC Kontu +0.0   29.11   05/09/2024 11:11   29.11   05/09/2024 11:43

Here it looks like I have won all of these bets, when in fact I have lost all of them. Here is the result of this game, please note that i have bet on FC Kontu team, which lost 2-5

https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/09/finland/kolmonen/fc-kontu/finnkurd/4313381/

I am happy I actually found this attempt to mislead all of you, but it is really sad the Fairlay team spent so much time and effort to justify their withholding my 0.8 BTC and resort to such unfair methods Sad

I have so much more to say, so much information to present to you, that I am very tired to check all the other numbers (there are very many of them in Fairlay's post), to verify that no other attempts to mislead were made.
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May 29, 2024, 11:20:40 AM
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First thing I did not like was that the Fairlay team forgot to mention the whole information about my account in general.

They selectively posted a part of my bet history which can mistakenly lead some people to believe that my account with Fairlay was created solely for the purpose of cheating them and making money by organizing fixed matches in Finland, Brazil, Colombia and Saudi Arabia.

Of course they did not mention that my account was created almost 5 years ago and that in that time I have made a deposit of 0.331 BTC and after a series of bets was able to withdraw only about 0.184 BTC, so roughly 0.150 BTC lost.

After that I did not use Fairlay for a long time and made my next deposit only at the beginning of March.

The deposit was more than 4 times lower than the initial one.

Through a series of smaller bets (interestingly enough not mentioned by Fairlay in their presented "evidence") I was able to accumulate a little over 0.1 BTC (from the deposit of 0.075) and took a small pause.

This is where I decided to use a new, very different and very risky betting strategy, yet, this whole time I was risking only the initial deposit of 0.075 BTC (which is almost 5 times lower than the deposit to Fairlay i made almost 5 years ago).

Many more posts will follow, I just want to structure the information from my side in a better, easier to understand way.

This exact information is what I’m asking to Fairlay on my above post since we should check first all the bet history of the account involved because there’s a chance that you only got lucky on the winning bets while you still have a lot of bet on other matches that loss.

If you can prove that you have other bet with same amount on different match then it’s time for you to present your proof here. Took a screenshot of your bet history including the questionable matches here so that we can analyze your betting pattern.

Use talkimg.com to upload your screenshot if ever you save them before fairlay ban your account.

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May 29, 2024, 11:37:30 AM
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First thing I did not like was that the Fairlay team forgot to mention the whole information about my account in general.

They selectively posted a part of my bet history which can mistakenly lead some people to believe that my account with Fairlay was created solely for the purpose of cheating them and making money by organizing fixed matches in Finland, Brazil, Colombia and Saudi Arabia.

Of course they did not mention that my account was created almost 5 years ago and that in that time I have made a deposit of 0.331 BTC and after a series of bets was able to withdraw only about 0.184 BTC, so roughly 0.150 BTC lost.

After that I did not use Fairlay for a long time and made my next deposit only at the beginning of March.

The deposit was more than 4 times lower than the initial one.

Through a series of smaller bets (interestingly enough not mentioned by Fairlay in their presented "evidence") I was able to accumulate a little over 0.1 BTC (from the deposit of 0.075) and took a small pause.

This is where I decided to use a new, very different and very risky betting strategy, yet, this whole time I was risking only the initial deposit of 0.075 BTC (which is almost 5 times lower than the deposit to Fairlay i made almost 5 years ago).

Many more posts will follow, I just want to structure the information from my side in a better, easier to understand way.

This exact information is what I’m asking to Fairlay on my above post since we should check first all the bet history of the account involved because there’s a chance that you only got lucky on the winning bets while you still have a lot of bet on other matches that loss.

If you can prove that you have other bet with same amount on different match then it’s time for you to present your proof here. Took a screenshot of your bet history including the questionable matches here so that we can analyze your betting pattern.

Use talkimg.com to upload your screenshot if ever you save them before fairlay ban your account.

Hello, thank you for taking interest in this case. I have just started to present my side of the story and it will take me some time. I have yet to explain what betting strategy I used, but will do it in the later posts.

From those posts the whole situation will be understood better.

But i can tell you, that this time around (on the contrast to the first time I made deposits (bigger deposits) to Fairlay) I actually won the vast majority of my bets and made a very nice profit.

But, as I proved in my last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498092.msg64141508#msg64141508), that did not stop Fairlay from altering my bet history and making it look like all my bets on the alleged "fixed" games were won

more to follow ...
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May 29, 2024, 11:48:19 AM
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Personally, this does look suspicious to me. However, one has to provide proof if making allegations, that is the way it works. Innocent until proven guilty. I think both sides must now provide verifiable proof of betting history. It doesn't look good if things are altered.

Maybe if one or two bookmakers can make an enquiry into the league and check, and see if other suspicious behaviour is replicated on other platforms?

While user has not offered any explanation for this betting history, he says he will explain the strategy. If user is from Finland or Brazil it makes sense but seems user is not?

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May 29, 2024, 12:35:43 PM
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As I mentioned in my first message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498092.msg64141482#msg64141482), I can only speak for myself and present facts proving my actions were not illegal or even not wrong according to Fairlay's terms and conditions.

Fairlay says that they believe many matches where i had bets on were "fixed".

I am not a member of any football federation, I am also not a member of any law enforcing agency, that is why I can not be 100% sure any game was or was not "fixed".

That is why I can only share with you some of my observations concerning these games.

The first one, and the most obvious - FC Futura

Is one of the main evils in Fairlay's opinion.

I have bets on 3 games with FC Futura involved. 1 game with very big profit (1.1 BTC), and 2 games with very very small profit where the main bets were actually a push (a situation where the result of my bet is a "draw", where I win 0 and lose 0 on a certain bet).

But during the same time period this same team had other games, and the results of those games are 

3-7 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/04/20/finland/kakkonen/futura/pepo/4323156/

1-6 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/25/finland/kakkonen/futura/fc-reipas/4323181/

my point is, if I was "fixing" these games, why didn't I try to make money here also? To me the answer is obvious, this team Futura, is just a bad team, they just keep conceding goals with high volume.

They are in last place in their division, 4 points from 7 games, -14 goal difference. That says a lot.

Also, check this out

1-4 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/07/09/finland/kakkonen/futura/finland-nurmijarven-jalkapalloseura/4032703/

0-3 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/07/15/finland/kakkonen/futura/fc-reipas/4032709/

1-6 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/07/22/finland/kakkonen/pepo/futura/4032714/

0-5 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/07/29/finland/kakkonen/futura/pk-keski-uusimaa-kerava/4032720/

0-5 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/08/05/finland/kakkonen/jippo/futura/4032724/

this is their 5 games in a row during last season, and just before those games they had these

1-6 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/05/18/finland/kakkonen/pk-35-ry/futura/4032669/

1-5 https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2023/05/31/finland/suomen-cup/pallo-iirot/futura/4075684/

And Fairlay says that 1-6 they lost on May 12th, a match where i made the most profit is suspicious. For me, it looks like a normal result for this Futura team, especially against one of the best teams in their division.

In their post Fairlay made a big emphasis on the fact that there are many Ukrainian players in FC Futura, and they also mentioned that I am Ukrainian. Fairlay was implying that I had a good opportunity to "fix" the result of Futura's games, because many of the players are the same nationality as I am.

I find these comments and allegations very very concerning, due to these facts:

1. Earlier I listed 7 matches (with proof links) of FC Futura just last season where they lost by big margins (most common 1-6, 0-5, exactly as the match where I won my bets), its is very easy to see that in those matches no Ukrainian players have participated

2. Some of the other allegedly "fixed" games where I have made most money were from the leagues of Brazil and Colombia, for example. No Ukrainian players participated in them.

So why is Fairlay using these incriminations because I am Ukrainian Huh

I admire the Fairlay platform and the whole idea, I think it is very well thought of and made. It is evidently made by IT and Crypto specialists because some of the comments they made in their post about a sport Football are just funny.

Let's look at the video highlights they noted as "prove" of my wrongdoings:
1. 16th minute – FC FUTURA player Bazhan getting a direct red card for unnecessary foul (1:35 in highlights)
well, this one is actually proves that my bet was a good one, as, as posted by Fairlay, i have made my bets after the red card with the odds provided by bookmakers. A Ukrainian betting against a team after a Ukrainian gets a red card ? But according to how bookmakers work, odds are already adjusted after a red card. Everything is correct here Wink

2. 25th minute – FC FUTURA player Moyseev getting a yellow card for unnecessary foul (2:05 in highlights)what is this about? A yellow card in football doesn't mean anything and the resulting free kick evidently did not lead to any danger. If he wanted to "fix" the game, why didn't he get a second yellow card to be ejected? Why post here a simple foul which resulted in no danger and no serious punishment? Just because he is Ukrainian?

3. 29th minute – FC FUTURA player Sinitsyn scoring a rather clumsy own goal (2:25 in highlights) and Also, FC FUTURA goalkeeper Kazakov was not putting much effort in doing his job.
its football, its normal, especially considering this is 3-4-5th Divisions in Finland, these are amateurs. Take a look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMS36VyuY1A , all fixed by Ukrainians ?

Seriously, I don't see a single solid piece of evidence that there was anything wrong here. Of course Fairlay can say that FC Futura was fixing games last year also (actually if they check Futura's results from even earlier seasons, they would see the same pattern), but my question is then - Why is FC Futura still playing in the Finland Football Federation sanctioned official tournament. Where there were no arrests, no fines, no investigation, nothing ?

A lot of text from Fairlay, a lot of numbers (some of which are altered in their favor, as proven in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498092.msg64141508#msg64141508), a lot of links, videos.

But those are all about nothing, just placeholders ...
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May 29, 2024, 12:44:16 PM
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A quite remember me with the case (STAKE).

But the match-fixing is on some (Tennis Table) tournaments. A small tournament or random tournament is being put on (Stake) especially in Russian, the person tried to do everything like payment and other things via stake.

And, the fund getting seize.

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