Anonibet Official Thread - Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation

[Gogo ppp]

I've had a lot of problems accepting Anonibet's statement that they have 35 employees.

They're closed 8 hours a day I believe.

So for 2  eight hour shifts they have 17-18 people working per shift?

OK.

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[BitcoinDistributor]

Sigh...I guess no one remembers the REAL anonibet from 2011...they say they were the first bitcoin sportsbook well did anyone look into their past issues? No, okay well I'll share them with you.

During the year when BTC was around $5-$10 per coin, people won hundreds off on Anonibet. They probably also lost too - either way Anonibet kept their limits the same and got murdered apparently by players when BTC went to $100 per coin.

There were players with bitcoin balances of 300 or more owed...Anonibet went silent and declared that they were insolvent to pay such balances. They did not pay for months. Eventually, they settled on a USD amount of what it was when the players were playing and they paid out the adjusted amount which in bitcoin, which is how the account balances are ALWAYS displayed came to being about 5-20% of the actual BTC balances owed. They again went silent for awhile after many called them out as a scammer...the older folks here...many of those members have left but I still remember the real scamming of Anonibet and this is why I'm telling you about it.

Eventually Anonibet relaunched and everyone forgot / moved past their issues but I never did. I have not used Anonibet once and will never because I remember Anonibet you guys are scammers and you know it. Don't believe me? Look up anonibet scams for multiple hundred BTC on google and you'll find the pages on this old scam story by Anonibet from years ago on reddit, here and other places soon enough in your search.

Don't play here they slow pay if they ever pay. All of their promos are won by fake accounts they own. You've been warned...

[Rating Place]

Sigh...I guess no one remembers the REAL anonibet from 2011...they say they were the first bitcoin sportsbook well did anyone look into their past issues? No, okay well I'll share them with you.

During the year when BTC was around $5-$10 per coin, people won hundreds off on Anonibet. They probably also lost too - either way Anonibet kept their limits the same and got murdered apparently by players when BTC went to $100 per coin.

There were players with bitcoin balances of 300 or more owed...Anonibet went silent and declared that they were insolvent to pay such balances. They did not pay for months. Eventually, they settled on a USD amount of what it was when the players were playing and they paid out the adjusted amount which in bitcoin, which is how the account balances are ALWAYS displayed came to being about 5-20% of the actual BTC balances owed. They again went silent for awhile after many called them out as a scammer...the older folks here...many of those members have left but I still remember the real scamming of Anonibet and this is why I'm telling you about it.

Eventually Anonibet relaunched and everyone forgot / moved past their issues but I never did. I have not used Anonibet once and will never because I remember Anonibet you guys are scammers and you know it. Don't believe me? Look up anonibet scams for multiple hundred BTC on google and you'll find the pages on this old scam story by Anonibet from years ago on reddit, here and other places soon enough in your search.

Don't play here they slow pay if they ever pay. All of their promos are won by fake accounts they own. You've been warned...

This thread opened December 22, 2011, 08:12:48 AM. Can you show me these claims. It would help in the ratings but I don't see any of these claims here. Thanks

edit- I just did a google search on the complaints. It looks like they all came at the same time period where a smear campaign was started by a competing sportsbook and their ghost accounts.

If there are reports of theft from 2011-March 2014, please show me so that it can be considered for ratings.

[gameboyadvance]

Sigh...I guess no one remembers the REAL anonibet from 2011...they say they were the first bitcoin sportsbook well did anyone look into their past issues? No, okay well I'll share them with you.

During the year when BTC was around $5-$10 per coin, people won hundreds off on Anonibet. They probably also lost too - either way Anonibet kept their limits the same and got murdered apparently by players when BTC went to $100 per coin.

There were players with bitcoin balances of 300 or more owed...Anonibet went silent and declared that they were insolvent to pay such balances. They did not pay for months. Eventually, they settled on a USD amount of what it was when the players were playing and they paid out the adjusted amount which in bitcoin, which is how the account balances are ALWAYS displayed came to being about 5-20% of the actual BTC balances owed. They again went silent for awhile after many called them out as a scammer...the older folks here...many of those members have left but I still remember the real scamming of Anonibet and this is why I'm telling you about it.

Eventually Anonibet relaunched and everyone forgot / moved past their issues but I never did. I have not used Anonibet once and will never because I remember Anonibet you guys are scammers and you know it. Don't believe me? Look up anonibet scams for multiple hundred BTC on google and you'll find the pages on this old scam story by Anonibet from years ago on reddit, here and other places soon enough in your search.

Don't play here they slow pay if they ever pay. All of their promos are won by fake accounts they own. You've been warned...

This thread opened December 22, 2011, 08:12:48 AM. Can you show me these claims. It would help in the ratings but I don't see any of these claims here. Thanks

edit- I just did a google search on the complaints. It looks like they all came at the same time period where a smear campaign was started by a competing sportsbook and their ghost accounts.

If there are reports of theft from 2011-March 2014, please show me so that it can be considered for ratings.

I did a quick search and just found this thread Peep. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

I wont be using anonibet. Too many questions right now. Peep do the right thing and downgrade them.

[Rating Place]

Sigh...I guess no one remembers the REAL anonibet from 2011...they say they were the first bitcoin sportsbook well did anyone look into their past issues? No, okay well I'll share them with you.

During the year when BTC was around $5-$10 per coin, people won hundreds off on Anonibet. They probably also lost too - either way Anonibet kept their limits the same and got murdered apparently by players when BTC went to $100 per coin.

There were players with bitcoin balances of 300 or more owed...Anonibet went silent and declared that they were insolvent to pay such balances. They did not pay for months. Eventually, they settled on a USD amount of what it was when the players were playing and they paid out the adjusted amount which in bitcoin, which is how the account balances are ALWAYS displayed came to being about 5-20% of the actual BTC balances owed. They again went silent for awhile after many called them out as a scammer...the older folks here...many of those members have left but I still remember the real scamming of Anonibet and this is why I'm telling you about it.

Eventually Anonibet relaunched and everyone forgot / moved past their issues but I never did. I have not used Anonibet once and will never because I remember Anonibet you guys are scammers and you know it. Don't believe me? Look up anonibet scams for multiple hundred BTC on google and you'll find the pages on this old scam story by Anonibet from years ago on reddit, here and other places soon enough in your search.

Don't play here they slow pay if they ever pay. All of their promos are won by fake accounts they own. You've been warned...

This thread opened December 22, 2011, 08:12:48 AM. Can you show me these claims. It would help in the ratings but I don't see any of these claims here. Thanks

edit- I just did a google search on the complaints. It looks like they all came at the same time period where a smear campaign was started by a competing sportsbook and their ghost accounts.

If there are reports of theft from 2011-March 2014, please show me so that it can be considered for ratings.

I did a quick search and just found this thread Peep. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

I wont be using anonibet. Too many questions right now. Peep do the right thing and downgrade them.

I caught anonibet scam 4 times..

Thanks. I think that "Legend" is a "ghost" account from a competing book. All posts are on Anonibet. One said that Anonibet had scammed him 4 times.

 I previously looked over "Legends" posts to see the validity of the claims. One thing I did notice is that "Legend" uses broken English with misspellings in some posts. In other posts his English is perfect.

Normally writing style doesn't mean much since many change post to post, but coupling that with "Legend"s obsession with Anonibet does lead to suspicions.

[Rating Place]

gameboyadvance- I will definitely look into all claims.

[jemaga1976]

I have contacted with chat of anonibet and they don´t fix my account yet. I don´t understand why they need 3 days for fix my account, only they must change the password and fix the problem with 2 steps verficadtion code. I offer them all my colaboration: by call, by email, by chat....All information but they says always they need 3 days¡¡¡ I don´t understand it. They have my account with 18 Btc¡¡¡

I take for tell a problem with several bets in a match tennis:

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

[Gogo ppp]

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

Anonibet needs to have specific rules on their website, the same as all other books.

If they don't, normally then the "standard" rules at sportsbooks apply. If it's a retirement in Tennis though, I'm not sure that there is a standard rule. If the standard rule is what you mention, then Anonibet needs to honor it.

I'm also unclear exactly what your bet was.

[jemaga1976]

My bets was Sara Errani win the match....And Errani win the match: 4-6 7-6 and 3-0 for retirment. The last friday in Rio Janerio tournament

This is in pinnacle sports: http://www.pinnaclesports.com/en/help/betting-rules#Tennis

1.  Head to Head Matchups:

One full set must be completed for Money Line wagers to stand. If less than 1 set is completed, all Money Line wagers will be considered void. The winner of the match is the participant declared the victor by the umpire of the match.
Example: Nadal trails 0-6, 0-2 vs Djokovic and Djokovic is forced to retire due to injury (or disqualification). All money line wagers stand.  Nadal is declared the winner while Djokovic is deemed the loser. All other bets on the Spread, total, team total and sets betting will be void regardless of current score.

If a player retires before the 1st set is completed, all wagers on the match will be considered void.Example: Nadal leads 2-0 vs Djokovic who retires due to injury. All wagers considered void.

This is in Ladbrokes:


Match betting

If one player withdraws or is disqualified after the first set has been completed, the player progressing to the next round or that is awarded the match by the umpire will be considered the winner. If the first set has not been completed, all Match Bets will be void.

If a match does not reach a natural conclusion, any markets (besides Match Betting) that are not unconditionally determined will be void.

In the event of a change to playing surface, venue or change from indoor court to outdoor and vice versa, all bets stand.

it´s the normal rule.

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

Anonibet needs to have specific rules on their website, the same as all other books.

If they don't, normally then the "standard" rules at sportsbooks apply. If it's a retirement in Tennis though, I'm not sure that there is a standard rule. If the standard rule is what you mention, then Anonibet needs to honor it.

I'm also unclear exactly what your bet was.

[info@anonibet.com]

I have contacted with chat of anonibet and they don´t fix my account yet. I don´t understand why they need 3 days for fix my account, only they must change the password and fix the problem with 2 steps verficadtion code. I offer them all my colaboration: by call, by email, by chat....All information but they says always they need 3 days¡¡¡ I don´t understand it. They have my account with 18 Btc¡¡¡

I take for tell a problem with several bets in a match tennis:

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

Dear Jemaga,

I think we did not explained properly why we have blocked your account for 3 days. You have forwarded us emails showing that you have been victim a phishing attack. We do not need 3 days to unlock your account, this is a standard procedure to protect the funds of the real owner of the account. Your personal email might be compromised, and we did not want to take the risk to give access to your account. As far as we can see you are giving details of your bets, almost the correct amount of your balance etc. We will now unblock your account and disable the 2 step verification.

You should be happy that we do our best to protect your account and funds. Unfortunately, you are complaining about what we did just to protect you.

Regards,
Michael

[damakhun]

I have contacted with chat of anonibet and they don´t fix my account yet. I don´t understand why they need 3 days for fix my account, only they must change the password and fix the problem with 2 steps verficadtion code. I offer them all my colaboration: by call, by email, by chat....All information but they says always they need 3 days¡¡¡ I don´t understand it. They have my account with 18 Btc¡¡¡

I take for tell a problem with several bets in a match tennis:

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

Your account is suspended because someone tried to hack it. That I'd suggest being willing to live with for a few days as it sounds more like they are trying to protect your account.

Your issue with the tennis complaint is valid, and one of the issues I stated in my write up I had during my first look at Anonibet. When evaluating any site, I'm one of the few people that reads every single thing they have in print. I was deeply concerned with their lack of sports specific rules.

Their entire betting rules are as follows:

3.1 While connecting to Anonibet.com, it is the responsibility of the client to use correct username and password.

3.2 The minimum wager amount is 0.001 BTC or 1 mBTC

3.3 AnoniBet.com and its employees can not give credit to the clients. It is the responsibility of the clients to have sufficient funds in their accounts and make bets accordingly. AnoniBet.com reserves the right to cancel the bets accepted by error, where there were not sufficient funds in the client’s account to cover the whole bet.

3.4 AnoniBet.com keeps all transactions and contacts made with the clients through electronic means for the interests of the employees and clients. The relevant record(s) may be presented to the arbitrators in case of disputes that cannot be settled by the Management.

3.5 In single bets, the possible payout is calculated by multiplying the wager amount and the odds of the bet.

3.6 In multiple bets, the possible payout is calculated by multiplying the odds of all the selections in the coupons, and then multiplying the combined odd with the wager amount. In combined bets, for the coupon to win, all of the selected bets on the coupon must win.

3.7 The multiple bets can be placed in a manner that the result of a leg will not affect the other. In case that such coupon is accepted by error, the coupon shall be rendered invalid.

3.8 All the bets accepted are final and the Clients may not change or cancel the bet once the bet is accepted.

3.9 All odds/rates are subject to change in time and the odd when the bet is made by the Client will be fixed for that client and will not be subject to change.

3.10 AnoniBet.com shall not be responsible for the syntax errors For all the current offers regarding the odds. In such case, the bets in question will be void.

3.11 There are separate maximum payout limits for every bet in single or multiple bets in AnoniBet.com and these payouts are restricted with these limits.

3.12 The highest amount a person can win at AnoniBet.com as a result of one bet either single or mutiple, is 100 BTC. In case that the normal gain exceeds this limit, only 100 BTC is paid to the client. All multiple bets including the system bets shall be considered as separate bets. The time when the bets are settled is taken into account for this rule.

3.13 All bets, except the live betting events, are accepted until the commencement time of the event. All the bets wagered after the commencement of the event will be void.

3.14 The bets are settled upon the confirmation of the final results and the winnings are transferred to the Client’s accounts accordingly.

3.15 In cases where two competitors share the same rank in an event, and if an odd is not declared for this condition by AnoniBet.com, the amount to be paid for the bet is half payment amount (namely, half of money deposited for the bet + half of gain). In cases where three competitors share the same rank in an event, if an odd is not declared for this condition by AnoniBet.com, the amount to be paid for the bet is the one third of the payment amount (namely, the one third of money deposited for the bet + the one third of gain). If an odd is declared by AnoniBet.com for the sharing of the same rank by the competitors, the bets made for the other outcomes will lose.

3.16 In cases that a bet is settled in error, this condition shall be corrected within a short period and accounts are adjusted accordingly. If excess money is paid into the Client`s account as a result of improper bet settlement, all other following bets made with these funds are cancelled.

3.17 In cases where the events on which bet is made is postponed, if the event is commenced within 48 hours, the bets remain valid. If the event is postponed for more than 48 hours, the amounts wagered for the bet shall be returned to the Client’s account.

3.18 If either party of an event withdraws prior to the start time of the event, the event shall be cancelled and the amounts wagered shall be returned to the Client’s account.

3.19 In Soccer events, the score at the end of full time ( 90 minutes + injury time) shall be considered for determining the score, extra times shall not be counted. In cases of getting through the stage or winning cup where special bets are offered and prices are declared, the re-match, extra time and penalties are taken into account. A red card is accounted as 2 bookings. If a player gets a yellow and a red card, the total booking is 3 cards.

3.20 In Basketball events, the overtimes are also considered for determining the results for all bets. For the events where there is no overtime, the applicable rule in the basketball section shall be applied.

3.21 In American sports such as American Football and Baseball and the overtimes, or extra innings are also considered when determining the results for all bets.

3.22 In Ice Hockey, results at the end of regular time is taken into account. Extra time and penalties do not count.

3.23 The play-off results are taken into account for determining the final result in Golf.

3.24 In Rugby, the normal event period is taken into account for determining the result for all bests, the overtimes are not taken into account.

3.25 In Baseball, if the previously announced pitcher is changed, all the bets relating to that event will be void.

For all the hassle some people made about how direct bet had non-standard rules, I'm surprised not much mention was given to the fact Anonibet barely has rules in place. The above is mostly all used for explanation and terms. The rules by sport are extremely vague, and of course disputes with no rules to govern them such as yours were only a matter of time.

Now warning before you start reading, I don't think you win any dispute here. But some comments on it: an arbitrator in such disputes where rules are absent, would normally go to standard Las Vegas rules. If the bet was placed prematch and there is a consensus rule in Las Vegas on it, then that is what is used. But that generally applies to American sports, tennis not popular in Vegas. If it was live play then are even more out of luck. Basically if getting a fair shot by both sides, Anonibet should point to which rule was used to void the bet. The player could then argue why that rule doesn't apply. If it doesn't apply, okay is there actually a consensus rule? If Pinnacle, Bookmaker, SBO, William Hill, Ladbrokes, all had the same rule, where Vegas doesn't apply and the site has no rules, I think it is good enough and an arbritor would rule the rules at those sites are consensus rules (whichever way that might be).

In this case: you are out of luck. I happen to know 1) tennis betting rules on retirements vary site to site 2) in-play betting several sites do void those if the match doesn't go to completion. So you only have a dispute if they are handling it two ways. Unless others come forward and says their losing wager was graded as a loss (thus the site is grading losses as losses, and wins at pushes) we only have the issue they don't define rules in print the same way most sites do. But, nothing to change in the grading, just an issue to be aware of in the future, but you lose the dispute.

[jemaga1976]

Iam waiting you unblocked my account. How many time do you need? You say your are going to unblocked 2 hours ago, but i can not log in yet¡¡¡¡

I have contacted with chat of anonibet and they don´t fix my account yet. I don´t understand why they need 3 days for fix my account, only they must change the password and fix the problem with 2 steps verficadtion code. I offer them all my colaboration: by call, by email, by chat....All information but they says always they need 3 days¡¡¡ I don´t understand it. They have my account with 18 Btc¡¡¡

I take for tell a problem with several bets in a match tennis:

I did several live bets, for 1000 usd in the tennis match with a quote 2-2,5, pro Sara Errani. In the third set, the player brazilians injuried and retirment of the match. They voids all my bets. All rule say if the 1º set is over the bet of match is valid: Ladbrokes, Pinnacle, Betfair...
Anonibet don´t have rules about this and they do they want. I lost 1000-1500 usd for this voids bets...
What do you think about this? And about my blocked account with 18 BTC?

Dear Jemaga,

I think we did not explained properly why we have blocked your account for 3 days. You have forwarded us emails showing that you have been victim a phishing attack. We do not need 3 days to unlock your account, this is a standard procedure to protect the funds of the real owner of the account. Your personal email might be compromised, and we did not want to take the risk to give access to your account. As far as we can see you are giving details of your bets, almost the correct amount of your balance etc. We will now unblock your account and disable the 2 step verification.

You should be happy that we do our best to protect your account and funds. Unfortunately, you are complaining about what we did just to protect you.

Regards,
Michael

[jemaga1976]

My problem with the account is fixed. I have unblocked the account and i have ordered a withdrawal of my funds, all is ok.

The other problem with tennis match bets are not fixed yet...

[Rating Place]

My problem with the account is fixed. I have unblocked the account and i have ordered a withdrawal of my funds, all is ok.

The other problem with tennis match bets are not fixed yet...

The tennis bet was live and not pregame. The bet should be void.

[pozmu]

It's impossible to place bet during half-time (soccer).
I don't know how does it work with other bookmakers, but it's inconvenient.

[cazkooo]

It's impossible to place bet during half-time (soccer).
I don't know how does it work with other bookmakers, but it's inconvenient.

i guess this sites doesnt allow live-in-play betting?
check out directbet, they offer live-in-play betting if you like that kind of tactics

[info@anonibet.com]

It's impossible to place bet during half-time (soccer).
I don't know how does it work with other bookmakers, but it's inconvenient.

Inplay betting is only possible when the match is played. During half times bets are suspended.

[Rating Place]

It's impossible to place bet during half-time (soccer).
I don't know how does it work with other bookmakers, but it's inconvenient.

I'm looking at the Belgrano/Lanus match. Although it doesn't say HT, in essence there is a HT line since the full game line is up

[pozmu]

Okay, another issue, I was placing live bet earlier today, I clicked "place bet" and nothing really happened, maybe except bet stake changing to 0 (not really sure about it), so I tried once again and it worked, I got confirmation message. Just a moment ago I checked my bet history and it shows that bet was placed twice at different odds... Not a problem in that particular case as it was winning bet   i tried placing another live bet and same thing happened, bet was accepted without confirmation message "congratulations bet was placed bla bla bla".

[info@anonibet.com]

Dear Customers,

We will introduce as of tomorrow the "PIN CODE" feature to all existing and new customers of Anonibet. Unlike the 2 Step Verification the PIN CODE is not optional but compulsory. However, we still strongly advise to all our customers to enable the 2 Step Verification feature. Existing customers will be required to choose a PIN CODE when they will log into their accounts.

We have also extended our Live Chat Customer Service to 24 hours 7 days a week to cover all different time zones. Our customers can now use our Live Chat Customer service round the clock.

Anonibet