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[investeerder]

First, Investeerder... enough already.  You're sounding like a broken record.  Go FUD elsewhere.  In fact I would seriously consider paying you to go FUD elsewhere.

Second, thanks for the support, Biomike.  Not only for the Criptoe pool, but for the overall network hashrate you have provided for network.  If we didn't have members of the community like yourself stepping up and making these choices, Clever would continue to rape this coin.

Which brings me to my last point.  Why are we seriously still allowing clever to mine NLG?  We have community members spending money to negate their influence on the coin.  When someone has cancer, you don't say, "oh, well lets change your diet and see if that helps".  No... you go after it aggressively.  You nuke the cancer out of existence, and then you change your habits.  IP block clevermining.  It's not centralizing anything.  Quite opposite of that.  Clever controls too much of the network without community buy-in.  They centralize this coin.  It's a cancer that has plagued us for too long, and I honestly don't see why we can't mitigate their effects right now.  IP block clever, let the price be what it would without 50% daily sellout, and let's finally move on.

-Fuse

On the bolded parts I agree 100%.

Regarding the algorithm change because the community is being put under strain with long block times, if /GeertJohan says he will take another 3-6 months then I will buy some hashing power and support the network but if hes going to be another 2 weeks then we can leave things as is.

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[BioMike]

IP banning is not the solution, clevermining could easily setup a proxy, have a different IP and continue doing what it does. What surprises me is that this coin isn't too expensive for them to mine yet. Profitability must have dropped for them. And, are there other switching pools? If there are, they are most likely keeping them out.

[Dawson]

First, Investeerder... enough already.  You're sounding like a broken record.  Go FUD elsewhere.  In fact I would seriously consider paying you to go FUD elsewhere.

Second, thanks for the support, Biomike.  Not only for the Criptoe pool, but for the overall network hashrate you have provided for network.  If we didn't have members of the community like yourself stepping up and making these choices, Clever would continue to rape this coin.

Which brings me to my last point.  Why are we seriously still allowing clever to mine NLG?  We have community members spending money to negate their influence on the coin.  When someone has cancer, you don't say, "oh, well lets change your diet and see if that helps".  No... you go after it aggressively.  You nuke the cancer out of existence, and then you change your habits.  IP block clevermining.  It's not centralizing anything.  Quite opposite of that.  Clever controls too much of the network without community buy-in.  They centralize this coin.  It's a cancer that has plagued us for too long, and I honestly don't see why we can't mitigate their effects right now.  IP block clever, let the price be what it would without 50% daily sellout, and let's finally move on.

-Fuse

+1   IP block clevermining

[Buerra]

First, Investeerder... enough already.  You're sounding like a broken record.  Go FUD elsewhere.  In fact I would seriously consider paying you to go FUD elsewhere.

Second, thanks for the support, Biomike.  Not only for the Criptoe pool, but for the overall network hashrate you have provided for network.  If we didn't have members of the community like yourself stepping up and making these choices, Clever would continue to rape this coin.

Which brings me to my last point.  Why are we seriously still allowing clever to mine NLG?  We have community members spending money to negate their influence on the coin.  When someone has cancer, you don't say, "oh, well lets change your diet and see if that helps".  No... you go after it aggressively.  You nuke the cancer out of existence, and then you change your habits.  IP block clevermining.  It's not centralizing anything.  Quite opposite of that.  Clever controls too much of the network without community buy-in.  They centralize this coin.  It's a cancer that has plagued us for too long, and I honestly don't see why we can't mitigate their effects right now.  IP block clever, let the price be what it would without 50% daily sellout, and let's finally move on.

-Fuse

On the bolded parts I agree 100%.

Regarding the algorithm change because the community is being put under strain with long block times, if /GeertJohan says he will take another 3-6 months then I will buy some hashing power and support the network but if hes going to be another 2 weeks then we can leave things as is.

Fair points in my opinion. We've discussed the possibility of blocking their IP's before, there were some concerns at the time because it can be worked around quite easily by Clevermining. But I can understand if the community feels it should be done. Let's just hope that Terk doesn't decide to unleash his 80GHs through a workaround to fuck us up if we do decide to block their IP's from the network.

[Dawson]

IP banning is not the solution, clevermining could easily setup a proxy, have a different IP and continue doing what it does. What surprises me is that this coin isn't too expensive for them to mine yet. Profitability must have dropped for them. And, are there other switching pools? If there are, they are most likely keeping them out.

Make the new algo M7M  only cpu mining!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.0

[ny2cafuse]

IP banning is not the solution, clevermining could easily setup a proxy, have a different IP and continue doing what it does. What surprises me is that this coin isn't too expensive for them to mine yet. Profitability must have dropped for them. And, are there other switching pools? If there are, they are most likely keeping them out.

If clever decided to go through the hassle of setting up a proxy for a single altcoin, I would seriously take that as a blatant attack on the coin.  It wouldn't look good for clever if they did this, and Terk would probably lose a lot of respect from the crypto community.

IP banning clever would give us some additional time to plan out a permanent solution for the longevity of the coin.  It would also relieve some of the burden on members like Biomike, who could then spend BTC on NLG rather than hashing power if they wanted.

I'm just tired of seeing clever rape this coin for their own greed.

-Fuse

[BioMike]

Let's just hope that Terk doesn't decide to unleash his 80GHs through a workaround to fuck us up if we do decide to block their IP's from the network.

Do they really have that much hashing power?

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Looked up on their site... 222GH/s is what they are doing.
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[OpenforBusiness]

IP banning is not the solution, clevermining could easily setup a proxy, have a different IP and continue doing what it does. What surprises me is that this coin isn't too expensive for them to mine yet. Profitability must have dropped for them. And, are there other switching pools? If there are, they are most likely keeping them out.

If clever decided to go through the hassle of setting up a proxy for a single altcoin, I would seriously take that as a blatant attack on the coin.  It wouldn't look good for clever if they did this, and Terk would probably lose a lot of respect from the crypto community.

IP banning clever would give us some additional time to plan out a permanent solution for the longevity of the coin.  It would also relieve some of the burden on members like Biomike, who could then spend BTC on NLG rather than hashing power if they wanted.

I'm just tired of seeing clever rape this coin for their own greed.

-Fuse

Depending on how well our first 2 projects are received by the crypto world we might need drones that use multipools to keep putting sell orders for new users. Project 3 if it works out makes us more useful then... ooops did I say too much. Project 3 is a + 6 month project so don't get too excited yet!

Project 1 will be released by the end of this month.

[bram_vnl]

i have set a shoutbox on my website http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl

[WaterLooDown]

i have set a shoutbox on my website http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl

Nice one Bram! I have just posted.

I will be updating the timeline tonight, sorry been slacking on that this week I have had a crazy week at work.

[Meije]

Hello everyone!

Just a quick update, for those who did not already know, my father and i are writing an article for a dutch magazine about Guldencoin and digital currency in general. I will post more updates later on.

[Buerra]

Hello everyone!

Just a quick update, for those who did not already know, my father and i are writing an article for a dutch magazine about Guldencoin and digital currency in general. I will post more updates later on.

Love it. I just tipped some media about Café Bommel with a press release of mine. Hope that is incentive for these journalists to get some interview going like we had for Subway Leeuwarden and Cafetaria De Prins in Amsterdam .

[veertje]

i have set a shoutbox on my website http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl

Nice one Bram! I have just posted.

I will be updating the timeline tonight, sorry been slacking on that this week I have had a crazy week at work.

I will give our latest acceptant a face, not done yet, I think.

https://www.ekpc.nl



http://jaagers.com is offering the installation to companies - http://jaagers.com/betalen-met-guldencoin/#



Both welcome!  

[bram_vnl]

i have set a shoutbox on my website http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl

Nice one Bram! I have just posted.

I will be updating the timeline tonight, sorry been slacking on that this week I have had a crazy week at work.

I will give our latest acceptants a face, not done yet, I think.

https://www.ekpc.nl is a new merchant



http://jaagers.com is accepting NLG payment for work.



Both welcome!  

yes that is the last 2 already on my website

that make the merchants on 60

[WaterLooDown]

i have set a shoutbox on my website http://www.guldencoinlinks.nl

Nice one Bram! I have just posted.

I will be updating the timeline tonight, sorry been slacking on that this week I have had a crazy week at work.

I will give our latest acceptants a face, not done yet, I think.

https://www.ekpc.nl is a new merchant



http://jaagers.com is accepting NLG payment for work.



Both welcome!  

yes that is the last 2 already on my website

that make the merchants on 60

Thanks Veertje , Timeline will be updated within the hour.

[veertje]

Hello everyone!

Just a quick update, for those who did not already know, my father and i are writing an article for a dutch magazine about Guldencoin and digital currency in general. I will post more updates later on.

Love it. I just tipped some media about Café Bommel with a press release of mine. Hope that is incentive for these journalists to get some interview going like we had for Subway Leeuwarden and Cafetaria De Prins in Amsterdam .

Good work guys! Both of you.

[Frais]

I guess clevermining is following this topic also and aren't happy with the ip ban talk  they went from 42% this afternoon to almost 52% right now.

[BioMike]

I guess clevermining is following this topic also and aren't happy with the ip ban talk  they went from 42% this afternoon to almost 52% right now.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. Could also be due to the temporarily higher rate at bittrex.

[Buerra]

I guess clevermining is following this topic also and aren't happy with the ip ban talk  they went from 42% this afternoon to almost 52% right now.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. Could also be due to the temporarily higher rate at bittrex.

Either one wouldn't surprise me

[Buerra]

Nice one Bram! I have just posted.

I will be updating the timeline tonight, sorry been slacking on that this week I have had a crazy week at work.

I will give our latest acceptants a face, not done yet, I think.

http://jaagers.com is accepting NLG payment for work.



Both welcome!  

Where does it say Jaagers is a merchant? They are not a merchant, they simply offer companies to install Guldencoin at their place of business. That's it. Do not add them to the list of merchants, or verify with them to make sure. There's no information on their website about Jaagers accepting it. Only this blog about them offering the installation to companies - http://jaagers.com/betalen-met-guldencoin/#