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[hd49728]

Forum members are free to draw whatever conclusion and to make their own judgement.

No amount of posts, flaming or anything will change our stance and we will employ more measures to confiscate ALL their money.

We will not be responding to ANY posts by this person, they can write 10 pages of stuff, go open another thread or whatever, this is our stance and decision. The End.

Thank you for your time to write that post and this way for finalizing that case. It consumes your time to do that but it's worth to do for defending your business reputation while there are still details not published according to ToS for privacy of your customers.

Look, the casino’s support team explained their side clearly regarding the report filed against you. If you can’t accept that, I think the real problem lies with you. There are really just some people who will stand by something wrong and insist they are right, even when they knew from the very start that they did something wrong

It's very similar to gamblers who made a lot of noise and accusations against casinos but eventually when the casino (trusted one, I meant) published details about the case and related accounts as well as their betting styles, it becomes very clear on how they exploited the casino, succeeded some rounds and can not accept punishment against their accounts eventually.

They knew very well how casinos have tracking tools, not only with KYC but many others including betting style like described by 2Up above, but they just tried to exploit and find their luckiness. They as this case, succeeded and withdrawn money several times before a ban hammer came.

[gaynellehalsey]

If you're a man and you have balls, reply to the lcb.org thread, provide all your evidence, and continue the investigation there. Everything you provide as evidence is pure nonsense, and you know that lcb.org won't approve of such evidence. So, if there are balls on the site, let's continue the dialogue there. If not, then you're a common scammer.

Look, the casino’s support team explained their side clearly regarding the report filed against you. If you can’t accept that, I think the real problem lies with you. There are really just some people who will stand by something wrong and insist they are right, even when they knew from the very start that they did something wrong.

Now, if you can’t respect the response they gave you, there’s nothing you can do about it. No matter how many pages of excuses you write, you’re just ruining your reputation on this forum because your posts are getting out of hand and unreasonable. If I were you, I’d just stop, because everything you say now will just be useless and ignored.

This casino is defaming me; they've slandered me. I don't know this person the casino decided to link me to in their post. Their post contains only one truth: I bet on the wrong line, and that bet was refunded. The casino claimed that all of these events were supposedly won, and they slandered me; there were two events on the Major Volleyball League, which the casino concealed in their post. Everything they wrote about some syndicate and my involvement in it is complete nonsense. They're blatantly lying to their audience.I will continue to defend my honor and dignity, and I will pay even more attention to this event, I will not allow scammers to steal my money.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Thank you for your time to write that post and this way for finalizing that case. It consumes your time to do that but it's worth to do for defending your business reputation while there are still details not published according to ToS for privacy of your customers.

I join in the thanks; in the end, it turned out just as I thought it would. Over the years, I have seen many cases of complaints, and in this one, you could already sense how it was going to end. Sometimes the casino realises that it has made a mistake and ends up agreeing to the player's demands. As I mentioned in a previous post, casinos do not usually reveal all their cards in these cases because putting all the information on the table gives cheaters clues about fraud detection mechanisms.

We can see a clear example here:

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

[gaynellehalsey]

Thank you for your time to write that post and this way for finalizing that case. It consumes your time to do that but it's worth to do for defending your business reputation while there are still details not published according to ToS for privacy of your customers.

I join in the thanks; in the end, it turned out just as I thought it would. Over the years, I have seen many cases of complaints, and in this one, you could already sense how it was going to end. Sometimes the casino realises that it has made a mistake and ends up agreeing to the player's demands. As I mentioned in a previous post, casinos do not usually reveal all their cards in these cases because putting all the information on the table gives cheaters clues about fraud detection mechanisms.

We can see a clear example here:

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

Pedro, this isn't the end, it's too early to rejoice. I'm planning to file complaints with other authorities. Their responses, unsubstantiated at that, amuse me. They have absolutely no understanding of the major sports leagues, which further proves their incompetence. If they want everyone to bet on their major leagues, why open a casino with such a wide range of sports? But these issues are too complex for Pedro and the people around him. You're working for their money, so I'll use independent sites to investigate. Their silence will only hurt their rating. I also want to ask anyone who saw this casino's ad to send me a list of sites. I'll bring this matter to its logical conclusion.

[gunhell16]

Thank you for your time to write that post and this way for finalizing that case. It consumes your time to do that but it's worth to do for defending your business reputation while there are still details not published according to ToS for privacy of your customers.

I join in the thanks; in the end, it turned out just as I thought it would. Over the years, I have seen many cases of complaints, and in this one, you could already sense how it was going to end. Sometimes the casino realises that it has made a mistake and ends up agreeing to the player's demands. As I mentioned in a previous post, casinos do not usually reveal all their cards in these cases because putting all the information on the table gives cheaters clues about fraud detection mechanisms.

We can see a clear example here:

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

Pedro, this isn't the end, it's too early to rejoice. I'm planning to file complaints with other authorities. Their responses, unsubstantiated at that, amuse me. They have absolutely no understanding of the major sports leagues, which further proves their incompetence. If they want everyone to bet on their major leagues, why open a casino with such a wide range of sports? But these issues are too complex for Pedro and the people around him. You're working for their money, so I'll use independent sites to investigate. Their silence will only hurt their rating. I also want to ask anyone who saw this casino's ad to send me a list of sites. I'll bring this matter to its logical conclusion.

You know, you’re completely wrong to think that we’re 'rejoicing' over people like you getting judged for reporting issues with a casino. That’s not how forum members here act.

In fact, many here who are knowledgeable about these issues actually give helpful advice. If there were at least five other people experiencing the same problem with the casino you're complaining about, I’m sure the veterans here would conduct an investigation. The problem is, you’re the only one who isn’t happy you're the sole complainant who can't accept the findings of the investigation into your report. So, good luck with that.

[pawel7777]

Something seems to be wrong with the UFC 325 bet offers. The 3 main fights are currently missing:
Volkanovski Vs Lopes
Hooker Vs Saint Denis
Fiziev Vs Ruffy

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I don't think those fights would have been intentionally taken out of the offer, so it could be some glitch etc. Might be worth looking into it before the event starts.

Also, the search option is not very efficient. I get no results for "UFC" or "UFC 325". But it's working OK if searching for an individual fighter's name e.g. "Tuivasa" etc.

[gaynellehalsey]

Thank you for your time to write that post and this way for finalizing that case. It consumes your time to do that but it's worth to do for defending your business reputation while there are still details not published according to ToS for privacy of your customers.

I join in the thanks; in the end, it turned out just as I thought it would. Over the years, I have seen many cases of complaints, and in this one, you could already sense how it was going to end. Sometimes the casino realises that it has made a mistake and ends up agreeing to the player's demands. As I mentioned in a previous post, casinos do not usually reveal all their cards in these cases because putting all the information on the table gives cheaters clues about fraud detection mechanisms.

We can see a clear example here:

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

Pedro, this isn't the end, it's too early to rejoice. I'm planning to file complaints with other authorities. Their responses, unsubstantiated at that, amuse me. They have absolutely no understanding of the major sports leagues, which further proves their incompetence. If they want everyone to bet on their major leagues, why open a casino with such a wide range of sports? But these issues are too complex for Pedro and the people around him. You're working for their money, so I'll use independent sites to investigate. Their silence will only hurt their rating. I also want to ask anyone who saw this casino's ad to send me a list of sites. I'll bring this matter to its logical conclusion.

You know, you’re completely wrong to think that we’re 'rejoicing' over people like you getting judged for reporting issues with a casino. That’s not how forum members here act.

In fact, many here who are knowledgeable about these issues actually give helpful advice. If there were at least five other people experiencing the same problem with the casino you're complaining about, I’m sure the veterans here would conduct an investigation. The problem is, you’re the only one who isn’t happy you're the sole complainant who can't accept the findings of the investigation into your report. So, good luck with that.

It's interesting that their provider offers low-quality games and then bans you for it, even for the bet they marked as a refund. They even mention one of the participants in this discussion, claiming it was me, claiming they have IP address protection, even though the IP addresses of chat participants are known only to the website owner. Funny, isn't it? These accusations are far-fetched, and it's completely unfair to present such nonsense as evidence.

[Vaculin]

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

Same here, and seeing 2up finally respond gives some relief to those who had doubts about the casino.
All we really want as a community is to know they’re present, they care, and they’re willing to clear up issues like this when they come up.

Sure, some users might still not be fully satisfied, but as long as the majority believes the casino is operating fairly toward gamblers, that’s how they earn trust and reputation here.

[aleks86]

Week ago casino sent me email about VIP status.

Started to play.

Made a lot of deposits. Also made withdraws.

Last day which I made deposit I made 8000 usd and loosed it. Then 5000 and got balance about 41000.

In result, casino asked me, what technique I used to got such wins.  4 days later I was banned (fraudulent activity). Played just video slots.

Do not try to play here.

[Davidvictorson]

I don't know, you can talk about the TOS all you want, but the casino simply didn't provide any evidence during my investigation. You're all so sure that players are breaking the rules themselves. I filed a complaint, but the casino simply decided not to respond, thereby exposing themselves as scammers. Their rules regarding the theft of deposits also indicate that they are scammers.

From your posts so far, it seems you got problems with the casino with accusation of arbitrage bet in sports. In your post screenshots, I saw that 2Up paid you sometimes with your won money but the last time they likely considered you breaking their ToS and refused to process your withdrawal requests.

Of course, depends on accuracy of arbitrage accusation against your account, if it's valid, they can close your account according to their ToS.

The request from you is not about your account, but your deposit, you want to get it back right?

I didn't withdraw any money from my account. After my last win, they stole all the funds from my account while I was sleeping, along with my winnings. I need all the funds, not just my deposit. I'm just outraged that they dared to take it for themselves.

Generally speaking, we do not respond to fraudulent or syndicate betting groups seeking to exploit erroneous mispricings, in the interest of the debate here we will respond briefly.

Regarding gaynellehalsey, this player is:

1. Made an under bet on Chinese CBA basketball when the market was 92.5 for 1st Quarter, this is a clear mispricing as the market should have been around half that, basketball games don't go that high in scores.
2. Made another bet in Volleyball Poland on prices that did not reflect true market conditions. https://projektwarszawa.waw.pl/informacja-medyczna-przed-meczem-z-bogdanka-luk-lublin/
3. All other bets were made on very low tier obscure table tennis games
4. Total of 7 bets: 1 on the basketball mispricing, 2 in volleyball, 4 on obscure table tennis B setka cup

These were the only markets that the player made bets in, did not place bets on any major sports or leagues.

The player also has another account that has won money with us doing the same betting patterns.

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.
We do not simply track IP, device, cookies and other information, we don't collect KYC but we have other sophisticated tracking tools.

This player along with the other player on page 38 of the 2UP thread are either:

1. A syndicate betting group seeking to exploint wrong prices on sportsbooks
2. A player/person who has paid to receive such information and seeks to profit from such events.
3. The player on page 38 called bornro / username: bran1 bets exclusively on obscure matches where they have faster event information, all of his bets are "late bets" it means, he bets immediately after a goal has already occurred because prices have not changed, he is able to do so because he bets on Soccer Italy Campionato Primavera U20 match. It is super small and providers don't always have access to the fastest information but the player has a person or scout at the match.


We are working very hard to remove these obscure and small leagues but it is difficult because the leagues come through the API and there are literally hundreds that come up each week and we can't manually remove them yet but we are working on something, it is because of players like this that we are also forced to either remove the leagues or increase the margin/decrease the bet size.

To add more information to the case:

1. These syndicates are NOT bitcointalk members, they do not sign up using the code from the forum, in fact it does not matter.
2. You will see that they are new accounts on bitcointalk by looking at their activity/posts to know they are NOT normal players.
3. We are not saying that we punish non bitcointalk members, we are just trying to highlight the players that have issue with us. When have you ever seen a proper seasoned bitcointalk member complain we steal their money?
4. These are professional syndicate players that seek to win from pricing errors and event speed and fixed matches.
5. These people are the reason platforms like Stake Shuffle Roobet and the top crypto brands are not able to offer good competitive prices compared to some of the local Asian Fiat ones
6. There are many more accounts that are linked to these syndicates or more syndicates that we monitor and get rid of.
7. We will always to confiscating all winnings and full deposits to deter these people from returning.

Final words:

1. If a player comes here, and bets 1$, 10$, 100$, 1000$, 10000$ (which a btctalk member did on a premier league match) and wins then wishes to withdraw, they will have absolutely zero issue.
2. We spend a lot of money doing marketing, the last thing we want to do is to shoot ourselves in the foot and arbitrarily confiscate 50$ to 500$ because we want to steal their money? But we pay out tens or hundreds of thousands to others.
3. Our business is making a spread of between 2.5% to 5% so that normal players are able to enjoy themselves by betting a sporting event, if you are right/lucky we have no problems in paying you.


Forum members are free to draw whatever conclusion and to make their own judgement.

No amount of posts, flaming or anything will change our stance and we will employ more measures to confiscate ALL their money.

We will not be responding to ANY posts by this person, they can write 10 pages of stuff, go open another thread or whatever, this is our stance and decision. The End.

I am impressed with this. Well done.
In my estimation, the team has done an excellent work in communicating with us about this issues.

So many persons have also used the casino with experiencing any issues and many more continue to report positive reviews. The accusers can bring more proof or evidence. It not it is now their words against the team.

*Sorry for the block quote, I just think every part of it is important.

[stadus]

In result, casino asked me, what technique I used to got such wins.  4 days later I was banned (fraudulent activity). Played just video slots.

Do not try to play here.

Are you serious? Why would they even ask for a technique if the account was already flagged in their system for fraudulent activity. That doesn’t really make sense.

And honestly, I don’t just believe posts from random newbies here unless there’s a proper scam accusation backed by solid evidence.
Without that, it’s hard to take the claim seriously.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

In result, casino asked me, what technique I used to got such wins.  4 days later I was banned (fraudulent activity). Played just video slots.

Do not try to play here.

Are you serious? Why would they even ask for a technique if the account was already flagged in their system for fraudulent activity. That doesn’t really make sense.

And honestly, I don’t just believe posts from random newbies here unless there’s a proper scam accusation backed by solid evidence.
Without that, it’s hard to take the claim seriously.

If you notice, that kind of nonsense always comes from someone who has no relevance in the forum. The guy has little activity and zero merits.

The worst nonsense isn't that, that they supposedly asked him about a ‘technique’. What makes him look foolish is that he says they asked him about a technique when he claims to have only played video slots, which is a game where the player can't do anything except click.

The story is so crude that it collapses under its own weight. Another one I'm going to put on my ignore list.

[aleks86]

In result, casino asked me, what technique I used to got such wins.  4 days later I was banned (fraudulent activity). Played just video slots.

Do not try to play here.

Are you serious? Why would they even ask for a technique if the account was already flagged in their system for fraudulent activity. That doesn’t really make sense.

And honestly, I don’t just believe posts from random newbies here unless there’s a proper scam accusation backed by solid evidence.
Without that, it’s hard to take the claim seriously.

If you notice, that kind of nonsense always comes from someone who has no relevance in the forum. The guy has little activity and zero merits.

The worst nonsense isn't that, that they supposedly asked him about a ‘technique’. What makes him look foolish is that he says they asked him about a technique when he claims to have only played video slots, which is a game where the player can't do anything except click.

The story is so crude that it collapses under its own weight. Another one I'm going to put on my ignore list.

Just because I'm a newbie and have no connection to the site doesn't make me a scammer. The scammers are you and your website, 2up. If you're asking about playing video slots, you could have asked such a stupid question. I don't know how, that's your scam. But I can send a screenshot. Although, what difference will that make? Will you apologize and pay me back?

[aleks86]

what casino asked me, word by word: Thank you for patiently waiting. Our team is requesting that you provide information on how you won the slots before we process your withdrawal. Do you have any techniques you use?


My goal is only to talk about my experience and show screenshots from this fraudulent casino.


If this helps even one person avoid these scammers, that will be a good thing.

The real review about 2up.io scam casino.

I was scammed with balance about 41000 usd

[gaynellehalsey]

what casino asked me, word by word: Thank you for patiently waiting. Our team is requesting that you provide information on how you won the slots before we process your withdrawal. Do you have any techniques you use?


My goal is only to talk about my experience and show screenshots from this fraudulent casino.


If this helps even one person avoid these scammers, that will be a good thing.

The real review about 2up.io scam casino.

I was scammed with balance about 41000 usd

I hope you provide all the evidence and confront them. Also, file a case against them with Casino Guru; they handle cases involving casino slots.

[aleks86]

what casino asked me, word by word: Thank you for patiently waiting. Our team is requesting that you provide information on how you won the slots before we process your withdrawal. Do you have any techniques you use?


My goal is only to talk about my experience and show screenshots from this fraudulent casino.


If this helps even one person avoid these scammers, that will be a good thing.

The real review about 2up.io scam casino.

I was scammed with balance about 41000 usd

I hope you provide all the evidence and confront them. Also, file a case against them with Casino Guru; they handle cases involving casino slots.

Ofc, I already posted on casino guru, and also in scam on this site. After few days I will contact lawyer (ROELOF E.F.A. BIJKERK), I have had cases that were successfully resolved with his help.

[gunhell16]

what casino asked me, word by word: Thank you for patiently waiting. Our team is requesting that you provide information on how you won the slots before we process your withdrawal. Do you have any techniques you use?


My goal is only to talk about my experience and show screenshots from this fraudulent casino.


If this helps even one person avoid these scammers, that will be a good thing.

The real review about 2up.io scam casino.

I was scammed with balance about 41000 usd

You should have included the screenshots of the casino questioning your methods, dude. If you had posted that evidence, the experienced gamblers here would have
stood up for you if they found it credible.

Without proof, your claims are meaningless. The old members on this forum aren't easily swayed by words alone. Anyone can make an accusation, but you aren't showing any backup.
You’re just telling stories how do you expect to be seen as credible without a shred of evidence? In the end, most members here will just think you're trying to ruin their reputation or
just making things up because you haven't shown any proof. And even if you do show something, people will still analyze it, and others including the casino you're accusing will definitely conduct their own investigation.

[Sanitough]

But I can send a screenshot. Although, what difference will that make? Will you apologize and pay me back?

If you’re going to send something like that, post it in the scam accusation board. You already accused the casino of cheating, so at least show some proof.

Without evidence, people will just think you’re trying to ruin the casino’s reputation, or worse, that you’re being paid to do it. On top of that, it also comes off as spam, and you might even end up getting banned.

[aleks86]

Your job is to write here that everything I wrote is questionable, that I'm lying, and so on. But there are facts that the account was closed and deleted. The casino might write that I never played at all. The casino hasn't responded yet. Go to the scam thread and take a look, there you can see screenshots from casino, also theirs question about WIN STRAGETY. But you can keep saying everything is questionable, over and over again; that's your role on this forum.

Regarding the casino's investigation, the level of this scam is clear, based on the question from their team. What strategy did I use to win at the slots? A very stupid question. And then a block for an unknown reason. Apparently it was fraudulent activity or multiple accounts. They themselves haven't fully come up with this story.

If this is fraud, how can it be in video slots? If it's a multi-account account, why do I need it to play slots if I'm playing for real money with a max bet?

Everywhere you look, it's nonsense, a false excuse to take my balance. But maybe he'll come and explain the reason. Or he'll simply write that I agreed to the rules and then broke them ))

[letteredhub]

We know accounts are linked because we pay for specialised digital tracking services which we are not at liberty to say.

For my part, I would like to reiterate that my experience with 2UP.io has been completely normal, as well as many others who have shared their experience on this thread. That guy, who I ended up putting on my ignore list, can make as much noise as he wants, he'll get tired of it eventually. He won't achieve anything with his blackmail.

I have always known that casinos has the required tools to unearth any form of cheating which a user might think they're well hidden in the act. But my curiosity is how the casinos do keep silent over it even after the discovery of a cheating user, only to flag them when perhaps they may have won a bet and expecting to receive/withdraw the payout.

Are they're doing this deliberately to pain the cheaters ?  Because at this point their whimpering and whining of numerous defending lies to get that won funds tend to be endless.