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April 06, 2014, 08:34:13 PM
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No his topic tries to justify the instamine with no windows qt, and then changing things around with the params to make it even harder to mine coins than before..lowering blocks reducing total minting....

So you'll only allow people to post in that thread if they talk shit about the instamine, but if they say they don't care or it's not a big deal, they're "derailing the thread"  Gotcha.  Clear agenda buddy lol

Stop feeding the troll.

Just report him for generally abusing this forum.
Thats what he's doing.

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April 06, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
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No his topic tries to justify the instamine with no windows qt, and then changing things around with the params to make it even harder to mine coins than before..lowering blocks reducing total minting....

So you'll only allow people to post in that thread if they talk shit about the instamine, but if they say they don't care or it's not a big deal, they're "derailing the thread"  Gotcha.  Clear agenda buddy lol

Stop feeding the troll.

Just report him for generally abusing this forum.
Thats what he's doing.

already did.  we should make a new topic honestly, this guy has a clear agenda and refuses to allow any discussion that doesn't fit his agenda to take place.
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April 06, 2014, 08:35:59 PM
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rather than being a snotty little cunt ...
Dude, please spare us of this kind of language. Make your points without resorting to it.
gimme a break i have had 1000 vile insulting attacks on me in here this last month alone..
many of these guys hunt me and harass and troll me and never even make any effort to stay on topic in the slightest
they think this is a free for all to quote and and attack spoetnik web site.. so gimme a break.
i think i handle things rather well considering the monolithic amount of abuse i am subjected to here 24/7
YOU TRY BEING SUBJECTED TO THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT !

i also don't swear much but i get picked apart here by rabid vultures with anything i say non stop !
and i have seen a million people swear so if it's such a problem then why is sooo many here doing it besides me ?

maybe you guys should grow up and fuck off and get off my god damn back and quit
quoting me and harrasing the hell out of me ? seriously do i hunt and stalk and harass any of you people ?
grow the hell up. and quit worrying about quoting me and running your damn mouth.. stick to the topic or fuck off .
I don't care what you all think of me i care about what you think about what i said in regards to the topic at hand...

and that guy has been a huge massive mouthy jerk to me a 100 times before on other topics in case you guys didn't notice..
want me to go find them and show you all ? ..he's a mouthy scam defender.
I understand. I take your points seriously and read what you and many others have to say, and also don't like to bring moral high horse B.S.  Further, being a man and not native English speaker, I easily shrug it off and some drama even amuses me. But not when this reaches the level of spam, and derails threads and discussions, though.

Then people attacking you today, are sometimes the same ones that you attacked and insulted last month, for frivolous or no reason at all. What kind of new person in this forum, posting without bias or agenda, trying to learn and understand stuff, likes to be attacked?

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April 06, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
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No his topic tries to justify the instamine with no windows qt, and then changing things around with the params to make it even harder to mine coins than before..lowering blocks reducing total minting....

So you'll only allow people to post in that thread if they talk shit about the instamine, but if they say they don't care or it's not a big deal, they're "derailing the thread"  Gotcha.  Clear agenda buddy lol

If by talking shit you mean posting block explorer proof showing the HUGE instamine.... yes they are allowed Smiley

I'll break it down for you fellas.

Here are some facts.

1.  The block reward was 500 every couple seconds at launch!  Not 20 or 50 coins every 2.5 minutes as listed.  There was also no windows wallet so only linux users could mine.  This allowed about 1.7-2 million Darkcoins to be instamined in the first 24hours.  Representing about 50% OF ALL DARKCOINS CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE!!!  All mined in the first 24hours by just a few wallets.  Then the rules were changed increasing the block time to 2.5 minutes and eliminating the 500 block reward, (but only after the instaminers had claimed 2 million or so coins first.)

2.  Today many of those day 1 instamined coins have already been sold and right now approx 24% of all Darkcoins are held in just 10 wallets.  This could be 10 people or it could be simply Evan with 10 different wallets.

3.  My opinion is that it is unfair and unfortunate that this occurred and IMO it represents a very real risk to Darkcoin in that there is an opening for a good dev to make an Identical X11 coin that has all the attributes of Darkcoin, plus a few more features, and have a truly fair and equitable launch.  The instamining will continue to be brought up as it currently represents about a 10% premine given the Dev recently reduced the total coins that will ever be in existence to around 22million!


can we get back to x11 now?? or must this be a justification of the instamine of drk coin thread.

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April 06, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
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can we get back to x11 now?? or must this be a justification of the instamine of drk coin thread.

You kicked everyone in the thread discussing it out, so they moved here obviously.  You only have yourself to blame for the derailment of this thread.  Anyways, I'm done discussing anything with you now. Have a good day.
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April 06, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
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can we get back to x11 now?? or must this be a justification of the instamine of drk coin thread.

You kicked everyone in the thread discussing it out, so they moved here obviously.  You only have yourself to blame for the derailment of this thread.

they were not discussing what the thread was about they were simply trying to justify it and derail it.  You posted here what i deleted so great.

as i put in that thread i tire of darkcoin now..... it was instamined as proven by this and we know the windows qt was not available...



1.  The block reward was 500 every couple seconds at launch!  Not 20 or 50 coins every 2.5 minutes as listed.  There was also no windows wallet so only linux users could mine.  This allowed about 1.7-2 million Darkcoins to be instamined in the first 24hours.  Representing about 50% OF ALL DARKCOINS CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE!!!  All mined in the first 24hours by just a few wallets.  Then the rules were changed increasing the block time to 2.5 minutes and eliminating the 500 block reward, (but only after the instaminers had claimed 2 million or so coins first.)

2.  Today many of those day 1 instamined coins have already been sold and right now approx 24% of all Darkcoins are held in just 10 wallets.  This could be 10 people or it could be simply Evan with 10 different wallets.

3.  My opinion is that it is unfair and unfortunate that this occurred and IMO it represents a very real risk to Darkcoin in that there is an opening for a good dev to make an Identical X11 coin that has all the attributes of Darkcoin, plus a few more features, and have a truly fair and equitable launch.  The instamining will continue to be brought up as it currently represents about a 10% premine given the Dev recently reduced the total coins that will ever be in existence to around 22million!


that is the facts right there... i dont care about darkcoin that much it was a side issue that arose from this thread.... but it is boring now. The is no denial from drkcoin fans just justification... job done.


so forget dark coin now... it was an instamine scam.... if it goes on to become something larger that is great i don't care either way...  people now the truth now and  make their choice...

so back to x11 then...

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April 06, 2014, 08:53:37 PM
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Yeah, lets get back to X11
Here are the facts, just in case:

- half the electricity consumption
- optimized mining software from different development branches
- ASIC safe for now
- most modern concept
- state of the art coins (DARKCOIN - HIROCOIN)
- probably more coins of value switching over to it

X11 is per se a warrant for quality and value of a coin's core.
It was made by the creme de la creme of the coin developers.
The market performance reflects it. People just trust the concept.

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April 06, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
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Yeah, lets get back to X11
Here are the facts, just in case:

- half the electricity consumption
- optimized mining software from different development branches
- ASIC safe for now
- most modern concept
- state of the art coins (DARKCOIN - HIROCOIN)
- probably more coins of value switching over to it

X11 is per se a warrant for quality and value of a coin's core.
It was made by the creme de la creme of the coin developers.
The market performance reflects it. People just trust the concept.

2 scam coins both use it? that's it's claim to fame?

again your facts are just your statements backed by nothing... probably, state of the art, for now, half the electricity = vague and not clear.... is it half the electricity of QRK , Groestl ?

besides you missed these questions again??

1. is it more efficient than qrk?
2. is it more secure than qrk?
3. is it more efficient than scrypt? or is the miner just crippled and can't use the full potential of the card?
4. are there more efficient miners already out for x11 that are more optimised?
5. is it more asic resistant that qrk?
6. is it more asic resistant that scyptN , scrypt jane
7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?

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April 06, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
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1. is it more efficient than qrk?
2. is it more secure than qrk?
3. is it more efficient than scrypt? or is the miner just crippled and can't use the full potential of the card?
4. are there more efficient miners already out for x11 that are more optimised?
5. is it more asic resistant that qrk?
6. is it more asic resistant that scyptN , scrypt jane
7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?
Can we just focus on questions #3 and #4 for now?!?!?!
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April 06, 2014, 10:13:33 PM
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1. is it more efficient than qrk?
2. is it more secure than qrk?
3. is it more efficient than scrypt? or is the miner just crippled and can't use the full potential of the card?
4. are there more efficient miners already out for x11 that are more optimised?
5. is it more asic resistant that qrk?
6. is it more asic resistant that scyptN , scrypt jane
7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?
Can we just focus on questions #3 and #4 for now?!?!?!

No that would mean no ROI for Quark phags who quarked this dumb quark salesman to attempt dumbFUD in order to Quark Quark Quark. Go buy some Quark from quarks in order to quark his feelings.

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I exposed CRYPTOHUNTER FOR LYING about being at the darkcoin launch, and he spun it to make me look like I was the one spreading fud about Darkcoin. I am invested in darkcoin longterm as you can see from my previous post.

THIS IS WHAT CRYPTOHUNTER IS DOING. DELETING MY POST BECAUSE I PROVED HE WAS LYING. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH X11.
THIS IS A SHAM!!

Yup, he deleted my 9 posts too in that topic.

Cryptohunter is an attention whore, nothing more.
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April 06, 2014, 10:19:49 PM
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I exposed CRYPTOHUNTER FOR LYING about being at the darkcoin launch, and he spun it to make me look like I was the one spreading fud about Darkcoin. I am invested in darkcoin longterm as you can see from my previous post.

THIS IS WHAT CRYPTOHUNTER IS DOING. DELETING MY POST BECAUSE I PROVED HE WAS LYING. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH X11.
THIS IS A SHAM!!

No we know it was not you. However you learnt a lesson not to feed to trolls.

He got paid by Quarksmen to do all of this shit last 2 days and the entire forum is laughing at him and Quarks. In the past he had BeeCoin in his signature hahhahaha LMAO http://[b]BEECOIN[/b]



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April 06, 2014, 10:23:34 PM
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Yeah, lets get back to X11
Here are the facts, just in case:

- half the electricity consumption
- optimized mining software from different development branches
- ASIC safe for now
- most modern concept
- state of the art coins (DARKCOIN - HIROCOIN)
- probably more coins of value switching over to it

X11 is per se a warrant for quality and value of a coin's core.
It was made by the creme de la creme of the coin developers.
The market performance reflects it. People just trust the concept.

2 scam coins both use it? that's it's claim to fame?

again your facts are just your statements backed by nothing... probably, state of the art, for now, half the electricity = vague and not clear.... is it half the electricity of QRK , Groestl ?

besides you missed these questions again??


1. is it more efficient than qrk? Are cats more efficient than dogs? No definition here so I'm answering to the best of my ability
2. is it more secure than qrk? 83% more secure, your definition is undefined so I've provided my own
3. is it more efficient than scrypt? or is the miner just crippled and can't use the full potential of the card?Scrypt utilizes RAM heavily. The power savings is manifested through not being memory hard. So yes, more power efficient than Scrypt in the sense that the algorithms themselves are designed to use the GPU core rather than the GPU memory.
4. are there more efficient miners already out for x11 that are more optimised? Are there more efficient scrypt kernels running for cgminer? Yes, but not by more than a couple percent. Same here with x11
5. is it more asic resistant that qrk? Yes, in the sense that someone has to spend the extra time to hash 5 extra functions that quark doesn't have. Dont bring back to me the pseudo-random choice based on the if/else statement.
6. is it more asic resistant that scyptN , scrypt jane Scrypt N is different that Scrypt Jane. I can tell you that it's more asic resistant than Scrypt-N because I've already seen advertisements for scrypt ASICs saying that the Scrypt parameters are configurable.
7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?Not sure where you're going here. Are you asking if something better will come along? Shit yeah something will most definitely be around that is a better solution in year 3056.


Your questions are designed to be completely loaded, sir. If you want people to stop being so hostile then perhaps you should attempt at engaging rather than presenting yourself as hostile. Else, you will be dismissed .. based on the entire thread of dismissive arguments.

From what I see, you don't want actual answers . . and want only to see shit. Nobody can help you understand if that's all you want.
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April 06, 2014, 10:40:02 PM
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HERE IS MY DARKCOIN ADDRESS... Xu31AHZcGzccD8xz6vtE6tcLZ3FiRAytrk. WHY WOULD I SPREAD FUD ABOUT MY OWN COINS? I EXPOSED HIM AND HE BECAME VERY ANGRY. THIS GUY IS BAD NEWS! I WILL SPAM HIM EVERYDAY UNTIL THE END OF FUCKING TIME FOR TWISTING THE FACTS! HE IS A SHILL!

TAOWAY STOP PMING ME SAYING HOW FUNNY IT IS THAT YOU ARE PRETENDING NOT TO BE A DARK COIN HATER NOW.... I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK MORON.


THREAD LOCKED FOR SPAM AND CONSTANT DERAILMENT..... NEW THREAD HERE FOR SERIOUS EXAMINATION OF X11 ONLY NOT SPECIFIC COINS.

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