♻️ DEX.fo — Auto Crypto Exchange 💚 NO KYC/AML 💚 Escrow 1 BTC

[DEX.fo_off]

Unfortunately, this may get you banned from Bitcointalk. Mixers are not allowed to promote themselves on Bitcointalk, not even indirect promotion, if the service offers another service in addition to mixing.

Well, as the examplens said, the moment you implement that, Theymos is going to ban you and delete all the topics here.
Plus, just from the pure business side, I don't see why you would try to expand that way, especially with USDT, which is somewhat of a hot coin now eyed by all the sactions, it's just adding a lot of trouble to be honest.

I think it is safer to remain as an exchange to avoid scrutiny from the authorities as well.
You can offer a great private gain from swapping coins already.
Forcing the user to make usdt > btc and then btc > usdt back already increases his privacy and makes your service stay as an exchange

The option was announced by the DEX strain as a conversion, and perhaps the closest would be, for example, a conversion from ERC20 to TRC20 or vice versa. Where it would be presented as the focus of switching the network on which the coins are. In a way, it wouldn't be direct mixing feature

Appreciate all three of you catching this — genuinely useful pushback. The intent was never to add a mixing feature; the idea was to let users avoid the extra network fee/spread from routing USDT through BTC and back when all they actually need is the same asset on a different chain. That's a network-switch use case, not a mixing one — but we can see how the wording read otherwise.

To be clear: there's no mixer coming. We'll stick to what examplens suggested — framing this properly as USDT network conversion (ERC-20 ↔ TRC-20), not same-network round-tripping. Thanks for keeping us out of trouble on this one.

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✨ A new contest is live, and we'd love to see you take part.

♻️ DEX.fo 💚 SWAP RAFFLE 💚 $50 in BTC!

➫ The winner will receive a prize of $50 in BTC 🎁
➫ Publish proof - for every $100 exchanged, you receive 1 slot.

Good luck to all participants!

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This reminded me, and I forgot to ask
How long is the order information kept on dex.fo?
Yesterday I did a swap on this exchange, and about an hour after the order was completed, I could no longer load my order ID page. There was some sort of endless loading, I got the impression that the order log had already been deleted.

➥ Up to 12 slots if you added a link to your KYCNOT review to the proof (current order ID).

[DEX.fo_off]

How long is the order information kept on dex.fo?
Yesterday I did a swap on this exchange, and about an hour after the order was completed, I could no longer load my order ID page. There was some sort of endless loading, I got the impression that the order log had already been deleted.

That's expected behavior, not a bug — we don't retain order data beyond a short window after completion. What does persist is the PGP-signed confirmation for that order, which is what actually proves the swap happened and its terms — that's the piece that matters for any dispute, not the live order page.

Always save your PGP confirmation at the time of the swap; the order ID page itself isn't meant to be a long-term record.

[examplens]

That's expected behavior, not a bug — we don't retain order data beyond a short window after completion. What does persist is the PGP-signed confirmation for that order, which is what actually proves the swap happened and its terms — that's the piece that matters for any dispute, not the live order page.

Always save your PGP confirmation at the time of the swap; the order ID page itself isn't meant to be a long-term record.

Yes, that's clear, I'm not saying it's a bug. It is even a recommended way. I'm more curious how it can be verified that the order has been executed, which is one of the conditions of this free raffle. Moreover, kycnot.me is unlikely to verify feedback in such a short period of time, while the order is still visible.

[DEX.fo_off]

I'm more curious how it can be verified that the order has been executed, which is one of the conditions of this free raffle. Moreover, kycnot.me is unlikely to verify feedback in such a short period of time, while the order is still visible.

Fair concern. Simplest fix on your end: take a screenshot of the order page right when the swap completes, before that short window closes. That screenshot serves as your proof for the raffle regardless of whether the live page or the KYCNOT review catches up in time.

[Hamza2424]

Quick check-in given the week we've had — BTC pushing toward $80K, heaviest swap volume we've seen since the pair launched. Appreciate everyone who stuck around through the Fast mode hiccups while demand spiked; that's exactly the kind of stress-test that tells us where the tuning still needs work.

Good to hear that! looks like the pump woke up everybody the CMC fear & greed index jumped to extreme greed this week.. something we havn't seen since 2024

Really, this pump has put some energy back into us, even if we knew there would be a recovery but every single time it feels like new haha. Time plays a vital role, because the last pump was in 2025. Since then we have been in a bear market and still it is early for us to think of a bull run again because BTC hit a new ATH in October and a few days after, the market dumped and we saw a black swan event.

There was some sort of endless loading, I got the impression that the order log had already been deleted.

It happened to me as well, the pages kept on loading once I tried to open the link in other tab, but it was fine when I was exchanging from start to end. But I still gave the link, as I thought maybe it was not opening in my browser (tor), but kycnot could verify somehow, because they confirmed the feedback.

[SamReomo]

Really, this pump has put some energy back into us, even if we knew there would be a recovery but every single time it feels like new haha. Time plays a vital role, because the last pump was in 2025. Since then we have been in a bear market and still it is early for us to think of a bull run again because BTC hit a new ATH in October and a few days after, the market dumped and we saw a black swan event.

You're right before that pump many people were in fear that Bitcoin will dip further to levels of $50k or below it and that's why they weren't active in the market. The market went up because of that pump and the weak hands who in fear sell their Bitcoin holdings mostly accumulate Bitcoin during the pumps. Many people called Bitcoin's current pump as false sign of bull run but they don't have solid evidence to prove their claims. Hope this pump and Bitcoin's value will remain over $75k for sometime so the market can see a good recovery and the investors will get more confidence.

[Hamza2424]

You're right before that pump many people were in fear that Bitcoin will dip further to levels of $50k or below it and that's why they weren't active in the market. The market went up because of that pump and the weak hands who in fear sell their Bitcoin holdings mostly accumulate Bitcoin during the pumps. Many people called Bitcoin's current pump as false sign of bull run but they don't have solid evidence to prove their claims. Hope this pump and Bitcoin's value will remain over $75k for sometime so the market can see a good recovery and the investors will get more confidence.

Yep, I was also thinking it would dump below $55k but many things have changed, many patterns have been broken, and still BTC is not missing a single chance to surprise us. We think we have enough data already to analyze it but we don't, every cycle it is something new.

The current pump was not expected by anyone, many are not able to find the exact reason even for this pump. Because of lack of data maybe or information, but it happened, demand increased, new money was printed, that's why maybe. But those who are saying it is a bull trap, they might be right, and their doubt is on point as well because bro, we don't know about the bull run and we should not even talk about the bull run that fast, BTC just made ATH in October 2025, it's almost 10 months now and the bear run never really goes away in 10 months, but nothing surprising here, as 10 months or 14 months, it has to go away in the end.

[stompix]

Fair concern. Simplest fix on your end: take a screenshot of the order page right when the swap completes, before that short window closes. That screenshot serves as your proof for the raffle regardless of whether the live page or the KYCNOT review catches up in time.

His issue was that he probably closed the window between this, I've managed to open an order link at least 3 hours after it completed, so I'm surprised about this happening so fast, but it might be possible.

A simple fix for the future if the situation persists and becomes more widespread, would be to allow entries with just order IDs, as I assume those are checked to be legit before handing over the prize, right? Cause otherwise everyone could just post doctored screenshots.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Yep, I was also thinking it would dump below $55k but many things have changed, many patterns have been broken, and still BTC is not missing a single chance to surprise us. We think we have enough data already to analyze it but we don't, every cycle it is something new.

Isn't that exactly why the market is labelled unpredictable, there's always similarity between the cycles but they aren't an exact replica of each other. Good thing the market is getting exciting again as this means good business for DEX.fo as investors make use of their exchange for their swapping. Hopefully the market stays this alive for some more months instead of returning back to being bearish. There's no denying that the exchanges be it Instant, DEX or CEX loves some active (bullish) market scenerio.

[SamReomo]

Yep, I was also thinking it would dump below $55k but many things have changed, many patterns have been broken, and still BTC is not missing a single chance to surprise us. We think we have enough data already to analyze it but we don't, every cycle it is something new.

Not only you but many people were thinking like that and that's why they were not accumulating Bitcoin when it dumped below $60k. People these days blindly trust social media influencers and the news sites that's why they don't do their own analysis. Let's suppose if someone accumulated 1 Bitcoin during the dump of $60k that person could easily sell the Bitcoin right now to make profit of $17k+ and that's a good amount in profit for many people.

But, majority don't have that much capital still if they've accumulated Bitcoin during that dump, they could sell it for profit right now or hold it to get better profit in future. I know it's not easy to predict the value of Bitcoin and things do change a little every cycle. During the previous bull run of 2025 people were thinking that we're in a super cycle and Bitcoin will keep going up and up but many smart ones took their profit at $115k and at $120k.

[MarryWithBTC]

That's expected behavior, not a bug — we don't retain order data beyond a short window after completion. What does persist is the PGP-signed confirmation for that order, which is what actually proves the swap happened and its terms — that's the piece that matters for any dispute, not the live order page.

Always save your PGP confirmation at the time of the swap; the order ID page itself isn't meant to be a long-term record.

Yes, that's clear, I'm not saying it's a bug. It is even a recommended way. I'm more curious how it can be verified that the order has been executed, which is one of the conditions of this free raffle. Moreover, kycnot.me is unlikely to verify feedback in such a short period of time, while the order is still visible.

I think I was in this situation sometime last month when I completed a swap but couldn't take the appropriate screenshot. We discussed this and I remember you suggested keeping the order completion page alive through a link in the guarantee letter. I trust you remember.

[DEX.fo_off]

I think I was in this situation sometime last month when I completed a swap but couldn't take the appropriate screenshot. We discussed this and I remember you suggested keeping the order completion page alive through a link in the guarantee letter. I trust you remember.

Honestly not placing this one exactly — could you point to roughly when that conversation happened, or paste the relevant part if you still have it? Want to make sure we give you the right answer instead of guessing at what was said.

[Hamza2424]

Isn't that exactly why the market is labelled unpredictable, there's always similarity between the cycles but they aren't an exact replica of each other. Good thing the market is getting exciting again as this means good business for DEX.fo as investors make use of their exchange for their swapping. Hopefully the market stays this alive for some more months instead of returning back to being bearish. There's no denying that the exchanges be it Instant, DEX or CEX loves some active (bullish) market scenerio.

Yep, when the market moves, the exchanges also make money, the DEXs also saw massive usage because of this, and this is good for business. It is like waiting for the ATH for me, but they still have a lot of real activity to see, because when the market goes up to $100k, the demand for DEXs is going to be doubled because people know their countries are now implementing taxes no one wants to pay, and they don't want to move their funds to CEXs that can hold them for no reason. There are plenty of real reasons that make everyone hate CEXs.

But DEXs are a good option, we should not hide our income and pay our taxes though.

[DEX.fo_off]

💚 XMR now available in Chain mode

Monero previously only ran through Fast — now you can swap XMR via Chain too (0.8% fee, ~30-60 min), no longer dependent on reserve availability.

Fast mode (1.5%, near-instant) for XMR remains available as well.

[stompix]

💚 XMR now available in Chain mode

Monero previously only ran through Fast — now you can swap XMR via Chain too (0.8% fee, ~30-60 min), no longer dependent on reserve availability.

Hurray!
Nothing beats something being cheap and available 99%
Maybe for some time is money, but for most I know, money is money in the first place! 

Oh, spoke to early  did I just check the site in one of the maintenance intervals cause xmr is unavailable! 22:30 GMT as I type.

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💚 Update: XMR confirmed + what's new

Confirming XMR → Crypto on Chain mode is running stable, as announced.

Two additional updates:
— Added an XML file with current exchange rates: dex.fo/api/v1/rates.xml
— Fast mode renamed to **Fast & White** on the homepage

[MarryWithBTC]

I think I was in this situation sometime last month when I completed a swap but couldn't take the appropriate screenshot. We discussed this and I remember you suggested keeping the order completion page alive through a link in the guarantee letter. I trust you remember.

Honestly not placing this one exactly — could you point to roughly when that conversation happened, or paste the relevant part if you still have it? Want to make sure we give you the right answer instead of guessing at what was said.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5580629.msg66994208#msg66994208

Oh, spoke to early  did I just check the site in one of the maintenance intervals cause xmr is unavailable! 22:30 GMT as I type.

It's up now

[Z-tight]

— Fast mode renamed to **Fast & White** on the homepage

I can confirm that on the website. Is there any particular reason why it was renamed to 'Fast and White'? I am not sure there was any previous discussion in this thread in relation to this change.

Monero previously only ran through Fast — now you can swap XMR via Chain too (0.8% fee, ~30-60 min), no longer dependent on reserve availability.

That's a good one, it's great to have XMR on Chain mode for users who would take the cheaper fee over the longer waiting time, compared to Fast, no, Fast and White mode.