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[Promocodeudo]

You don't say that a casino is shady just because they allowed you to gamble without KYC verification. It's a norm for casinos to ask you for your documents after a big win because they cannot just allow you to withdraw it like that. You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I think, I will put the blame on the gamblers to be less concerned on submitting your KYC documents for verification in the beginning after registration because you know that the casino isn't a NoKYC casino. Why the delay until, you win big.

Why will you say that it is normal for casinos to ask for KYC when big winning is involved? Why didn't they ask for it earlier when gamblers had little winning, is it that they always remember to ask for KYC when a gambler gets lucky to win big, note, I'm not against casinos asking for KYC if they suspect anything in a gambletr account, something like cheating or any other thing that looks suspicious, but coming up with the idea of asking for KYC just because a gambler win a big amount from their casino makes it look suspicious, som, I know that they'll say they want to verify if the person thats attempting to withdraw is the real owner of the gambling account, but to me, I see it as tricky, why must it be as the notice big win.

[GiftedMAN]

You don't say that a casino is shady just because they allowed you to gamble without KYC verification. It's a norm for casinos to ask you for your documents after a big win because they cannot just allow you to withdraw it like that. You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I think, I will put the blame on the gamblers to be less concerned on submitting your KYC documents for verification in the beginning after registration because you know that the casino isn't a NoKYC casino. Why the delay until, you win big.

Why will you say that it is normal for casinos to ask for KYC when big winning is involved? Why didn't they ask for it earlier when gamblers had little winning, is it that they always remember to ask for KYC when a gambler gets lucky to win big, note, I'm not against casinos asking for KYC if they suspect anything in a gambletr account, something like cheating or any other thing that looks suspicious, but coming up with the idea of asking for KYC just because a gambler win a big amount from their casino makes it look suspicious, som, I know that they'll say they want to verify if the person thats attempting to withdraw is the real owner of the gambling account, but to me, I see it as tricky, why must it be as the notice big win.

I think what he's trying to say is that every big winning attracts casinos to start suspecting the accounts of the winners which means they do not want gamblers to win big because it doesn't favour them cause if they are nit against gamblers winning big I don't see the reason why almost all the people they have suspected to be cheating are those who win big. They can ask for KYC's even when their customers has not played games or won anything they should stop making it obvious when they see people win something reasonable that's like a big trick they can't even deny it.

[Coyster]

KYC is not always a sign of casino suspicion that the player might be involved in fraud or other illegal activity following a large withdrawal. It may also be required as a component of AML or account security measures. The truth is that it's all about transparency. When KYC is requested at withdrawal.

Yes, like i also mentioned, it is routine for most casinos after a big win, but i think the checks should be as quick as possible and the casino should refrain from asking the player for "impossible" information. Whenever i find a casino requesting tons of information, i interpret it as they are looking for an excuse not to pay the gambler their winnings.

It is true they need to be sure the winner isn't gambling with a fake identity, from a restricted region or abusing one or more of their terms, but all of these should be investigated as soon as possible. I'd be frustrated if i have to wait weeks to receive my winnings from a casino.

[OcTradism]

Yes, like i also mentioned, it is routine for most casinos after a big win, but i think the checks should be as quick as possible and the casino should refrain from asking the player for "impossible" information. Whenever i find a casino requesting tons of information, i interpret it as they are looking for an excuse not to pay the gambler their winnings.

It is true they need to be sure the winner isn't gambling with a fake identity, from a restricted region or abusing one or more of their terms, but all of these should be investigated as soon as possible. I'd be frustrated if i have to wait weeks to receive my winnings from a casino.

The reason why KYC is dangerous is this.

If there are terms in ToS about KYC, and different KYC levels including advanced KYC level, it means your account will have risk of being asked to finish the highest KYC level.

With that level, as I read sometimes on casinos, they require many things, like "Impossible Information" as you said, but you know if you use their casino, fall into that highest KYC level request, you won't be able to do anything than fulfill their requirement if possible.

Otherwise, if you can not finish the KYC, you lose your account and money.
Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless.

[Salahmu]

I don't think that's how the rules usually work in casino, actually when the casino has stated on there terms and conditions that nobody should use any VPN on there casino it involves all their users, so even if your country is among the ones the casino does not restrict there service on, you will not still be allowed to use the VPN, although I don't know if there could be other casino who wouldn't mind allowing an unrestricted country use it but however is very important that whatever you want to do concerning the use of VPN should come the understanding of what there TOS says because a lot of gamblers have had issues because of this.

If I am using a casino that is restricting the use of VPN by all means, I will not ignore the restriction and I will advise myself to stick to using network provider that don't use VPN so I am not accused later of breaching their rule that can make the team to lock my account for small mistake that can be obstructed by all means. When you understand the rule, you will not want to break it so you are not punished for that you know and choose to face the consequences.

Misunderstanding of rules is always the problem of most people, they do things with the mindset that some casino rules will not apply to them until they are being discovered in the future that's when they would start pointing fingers on different things forgetting it was their fault. In as much as I also like Casino that's VPN friendly but i mostly don't even have the need for it if I could access the casino website freely, let alone when they restricted the VPN from the general use on there casino so actually avoiding it as you said is the best thing to do so that you wouldn't have a problem with the casino later on.

[Lida93]

You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I disagree with you, a casino should only trigger a KYC request after a big win if they think there's something suspicious about your winnings and not because they need information about you, or if you deserve the winning, lol, that is ridiculous. Do you deserve the losses your incur when you gamble on the platform. And even if a casino believes a KYC request is routine for a big win, then the checks should always be fast and they shouldn't drag it on forever.

But sometimes, it's not really about the KYC itself. Yes it's okay to verify players, casinos can can do that especially for validation sake but it's the timing that sends a wrong message sometimes. If KYC isn't required when a player is losing, it shouldn't be asked for as a requirement for withdrawal suddenly after a win, that's when people naturally question it. If there must be rules, they should be clear from the start so everyone understands and abides by them.

The timing for KYC is actually what most gambler are concerned of and not that they are scaring away from passing it when requested. Perhaps if a casino that already knows they're KYC wired then it's necessary they ask for all necessary documents when a gambler is registering, but it's just unfortunate how casinos now advertise themselves to be a no KYC but wait to ask for one when the gambler eventually gets some reasonable won bet amount. If you're a KYC platform then don't from the onset of registration and not when withdrawal is initiated because the gambler might feel bad at the timing.

[Leahized]

every big winning attracts casinos to start suspecting the accounts of the winners which means they do not want gamblers to win big because it doesn't favour them cause if they are nit against gamblers winning big I don't see the reason why almost all the people they have suspected to be cheating are those who win big. They can ask for KYC's even when their customers has not played games or won anything they should stop making it obvious when they see people win something reasonable that's like a big trick they can't even deny it.

No, this is never reasonable, every big win results in the casino adding their accounts to the list of suspicions. When a gambler wins a large amount, the team keeps a close watch during the withdrawal. Because a wrong move can significantly reduce their hold fund. Because if they fail to comply with their terms and conditions, KYC verification may be required in that context. However, often the opposite happens. Despite winning a large amount and being the actual owner, the casino refuses to pay them.

I believe, the main reason is that the casino does not have that much money. Or it significantly harms their business. Therefore, to avoid such situations, no providers game should be added that causes the casino to fail to pay due to a gambler's big win.

[hd49728]

No, this is never reasonable, every big win results in the casino adding their accounts to the list of suspicions. When a gambler wins a large amount, the team keeps a close watch during the withdrawal. Because a wrong move can significantly reduce their hold fund. Because if they fail to comply with their terms and conditions, KYC verification may be required in that context. However, often the opposite happens. Despite winning a large amount and being the actual owner, the casino refuses to pay them.

There are usually other activities that make an account looks suspicious, not only a big win but surely some big wins will put the account under investigation. It's business-wise that casinos always have to investigate accounts with big wins on their sites.

I read cases that casinos proceeded big withdrawals for users who got it from big wins but if this pattern repeats, surely the account will be in suspicious list. When a casino takes action against the account, this means they already highly suspected that account did something wrong. They only need more time for investigation and usually the final action will not be comfortable for that user.

KYC is only one of many things a casino will do against suspected users and even passing KYC will not be enough.

[Donneski]

No, this is never reasonable, every big win results in the casino adding their accounts to the list of suspicions. When a gambler wins a large amount, the team keeps a close watch during the withdrawal. Because a wrong move can significantly reduce their hold fund. Because if they fail to comply with their terms and conditions, KYC verification may be required in that context. However, often the opposite happens. Despite winning a large amount and being the actual owner, the casino refuses to pay them.

There are usually other activities that make an account looks suspicious, not only a big win but surely some big wins will put the account under investigation. It's business-wise that casinos always have to investigate accounts with big wins on their sites.

I read cases that casinos proceeded big withdrawals for users who got it from big wins but if this pattern repeats, surely the account will be in suspicious list. When a casino takes action against the account, this means they already highly suspected that account did something wrong. They only need more time for investigation and usually the final action will not be comfortable for that user.

KYC is only one of many things a casino will do against suspected users and even passing KYC will not be enough.

Sometimes it's not actually one big win that makes casinos suspect an account, it could be that there are other activities around that account that makes it suspicious and then they notice a big win and decide to investigate further by asking for KYC verification to clear their doubts, all of these are understandable.

However, I think the problem comes when casinos use "your account is under investigation" to keep delaying payments even when they'll fail to give the user reasonable explanation to their claim.

[Z_MBFM]

No, this is never reasonable, every big win results in the casino adding their accounts to the list of suspicions. When a gambler wins a large amount, the team keeps a close watch during the withdrawal. Because a wrong move can significantly reduce their hold fund. Because if they fail to comply with their terms and conditions, KYC verification may be required in that context. However, often the opposite happens. Despite winning a large amount and being the actual owner, the casino refuses to pay them.

There are usually other activities that make an account looks suspicious, not only a big win but surely some big wins will put the account under investigation. It's business-wise that casinos always have to investigate accounts with big wins on their sites.

I read cases that casinos proceeded big withdrawals for users who got it from big wins but if this pattern repeats, surely the account will be in suspicious list. When a casino takes action against the account, this means they already highly suspected that account did something wrong. They only need more time for investigation and usually the final action will not be comfortable for that user.

KYC is only one of many things a casino will do against suspected users and even passing KYC will not be enough.

Sometimes it's not actually one big win that makes casinos suspect an account, it could be that there are other activities around that account that makes it suspicious and then they notice a big win and decide to investigate further by asking for KYC verification to clear their doubts, all of these are understandable.

However, I think the problem comes when casinos use "your account is under investigation" to keep delaying payments even when they'll fail to give the user reasonable explanation to their claim.

Not only is it a big deal when a gambler deposits money and gambles and wins frequently and goes to withdraw them, casino platforms still hold withdrawal requests and review them for a long time. Today I have an experience that I deposit like $100 and place 6-7 bets, out of which 1 loses and the rest are won and when I make a withdrawal request of $160 I have to wait for a long time. I made a withdrawal request a while ago and I have been waiting for more than 1 hour and still I have not received my refund. I feel like the platform is reviewing my request very well. These things are normal but sometimes it gets annoying.

[Bushdark]

You don't say that a casino is shady just because they allowed you to gamble without KYC verification. It's a norm for casinos to ask you for your documents after a big win because they cannot just allow you to withdraw it like that. You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I think, I will put the blame on the gamblers to be less concerned on submitting your KYC documents for verification in the beginning after registration because you know that the casino isn't a NoKYC casino. Why the delay until, you win big.

Why will you say that it is normal for casinos to ask for KYC when big winning is involved? Why didn't they ask for it earlier when gamblers had little winning, is it that they always remember to ask for KYC when a gambler gets lucky to win big, note, I'm not against casinos asking for KYC if they suspect anything in a gambletr account, something like cheating or any other thing that looks suspicious, but coming up with the idea of asking for KYC just because a gambler win a big amount from their casino makes it look suspicious, som, I know that they'll say they want to verify if the person thats attempting to withdraw is the real owner of the gambling account, but to me, I see it as tricky, why must it be as the notice big win.

Why would you blame a casino for asking for KYC criteria when you hit a big win? Why don't you stick to a casino that will ask for your KYC verification immediately after you have created an account on their platform? The real fact is we all have the freedom to stick to any type of casinos we want to use for betting and it's would be unacceptable to continue complaining on something you don't have control over. Casinos have set their terms straight and I don't think that there is a limit to the complaint that would change their perception on how we must have been feeling about what we really want from a casino that have well structured rules that needs to be followed.

[Sarah Jordan]

You don't say that a casino is shady just because they allowed you to gamble without KYC verification. It's a norm for casinos to ask you for your documents after a big win because they cannot just allow you to withdraw it like that. You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I think, I will put the blame on the gamblers to be less concerned on submitting your KYC documents for verification in the beginning after registration because you know that the casino isn't a NoKYC casino. Why the delay until, you win big.

Why will you say that it is normal for casinos to ask for KYC when big winning is involved? Why didn't they ask for it earlier when gamblers had little winning, is it that they always remember to ask for KYC when a gambler gets lucky to win big, note, I'm not against casinos asking for KYC if they suspect anything in a gambletr account, something like cheating or any other thing that looks suspicious, but coming up with the idea of asking for KYC just because a gambler win a big amount from their casino makes it look suspicious, som, I know that they'll say they want to verify if the person thats attempting to withdraw is the real owner of the gambling account, but to me, I see it as tricky, why must it be as the notice big win.

I get your plight. It looks very tricky when there is request for kyc when one wins big. But sometimes these requests is done by licensed casinos as there are regulations to verify large withdrawals to prove if you are the owner of the money.

And also kyc verification can be asked by shady casino who do not want to pay gamblers their winnings when its big. They use this verification to get gamblers tired and frustrated to get them abandon withdrawal

So it can be a legit kyc verification and a tricky one not to pay gamblers.

[BADERO]

Why would you blame a casino for asking for KYC criteria when you hit a big win? Why don't you stick to a casino that will ask for your KYC verification immediately after you have created an account on their platform? The real fact is we all have the freedom to stick to any type of casinos we want to use for betting and it's would be unacceptable to continue complaining on something you don't have control over. Casinos have set their terms straight and I don't think that there is a limit to the complaint that would change their perception on how we must have been feeling about what we really want from a casino that have well structured rules that needs to be followed.

Wéve seen many casino that lies to users by promoting themselves to be a nokyc casino and once u get a big wi. they ask for kyc verification, so if i made the choice to play on a casino that doesn’t require a kyc i dont know why a casino would require any identity verification after my win, why they dont do it when you create the account or while depositing, why waiting after trying to whithdraw ur winings ?

[Wakate]

You account will pass through some process for them to be very sure that you deserve the funds and that's why you see that the casino will come up with KYC verification at that time. You just imagine that you paid out a big amount of money to someone you don't have any information about.

I disagree with you, a casino should only trigger a KYC request after a big win if they think there's something suspicious about your winnings and not because they need information about you, or if you deserve the winning, lol, that is ridiculous. Do you deserve the losses your incur when you gamble on the platform. And even if a casino believes a KYC request is routine for a big win, then the checks should always be fast and they shouldn't drag it on forever.

But sometimes, it's not really about the KYC itself. Yes it's okay to verify players, casinos can can do that especially for validation sake but it's the timing that sends a wrong message sometimes. If KYC isn't required when a player is losing, it shouldn't be asked for as a requirement for withdrawal suddenly after a win, that's when people naturally question it. If there must be rules, they should be clear from the start so everyone understands and abides by them.

This is like a type of joke right? You don't want a casino to scrutinize you after successfully hitting their bankroll with a big win?
You think that will not keep the casino team on their shoes? Stop it dude, you are actually taking something big from them and you should not expect them not to panic because you could do it again if they are not threatened to ask for your documents and how come you became so lucky with a big win.

[Barikui1]

It's quite shady if casinos don't require KYC when user registers account, before user funds an account wallet, during bet experience on the casino, and only pull KYC out when user wins, wins big and want to withdraw money.

If you look at the terms and conditions of most casinos in this crypto casino industry, their policy is very clear and simple, which states that you will not be asking to do any form of kyc verification, unless they suspect anything suspicious.

So when trying to make a withdrawal or a large one, you may be asked to do your kyc, so as long as it is stated already in their TOS that it may be asked for if they see the need to do so, it's not shady as you proclaimed, but it will only be shady when nothing like that is started in their Tos.

[Pmalek]

Wéve seen many casino that lies to users by promoting themselves to be a nokyc casino and once u get a big wi. they ask for kyc verification, so if i made the choice to play on a casino that doesn’t require a kyc i dont know why a casino would require any identity verification after my win, why they dont do it when you create the account or while depositing, why waiting after trying to whithdraw ur winings ?

People would complain regardless of when the casino asks for KYC verification. If they do it before big withdrawals, you would have people screaming why now and why not while I was losing or when I created my account. If casinos made a U-turn and started requesting KYC verification together with account registrations, people would start complaining about that as well. They wouldn't be happy because in the past they didn't need to undergo KYC to open an account and make a few bets. Now, all of a sudden, they have nowhere to gamble because every platform requires KYC and there is no way to retain your privacy. What we have now is a middle ground. A compromise. Some players will need to perform KYC and others won't.

[Queentoshi]

It's quite shady if casinos don't require KYC when user registers account, before user funds an account wallet, during bet experience on the casino, and only pull KYC out when user wins, wins big and want to withdraw money.

If you look at the terms and conditions of most casinos in this crypto casino industry, their policy is very clear and simple, which states that you will not be asking to do any form of kyc verification, unless they suspect anything suspicious.

So when trying to make a withdrawal or a large one, you may be asked to do your kyc, so as long as it is stated already in their TOS that it may be asked for if they see the need to do so, it's not shady as you proclaimed, but it will only be shady when nothing like that is started in their Tos.

It is always in their terms of service, but the problem is that many gamblers fail to read it this is why they are quick to always accuse a casino sometimes for some actions the casino take against them, giving the casino different names. This is why I have come to understand that it is not all the feedback that people give you about a casino that is genuine because imagine someone who did not read the terms of service of a casino on KYC requirements and then when they go ahead to win a big sum and the casino demands for them to do a simple KYC verification they start calling the casino shady spoiling the casino's name to others where in fact the casino already mentioned such a term in their terms of service. Not all customers feedback are genuine.

[Jasmyne]

It's quite shady if casinos don't require KYC when user registers account, before user funds an account wallet, during bet experience on the casino, and only pull KYC out when user wins, wins big and want to withdraw money.

If you look at the terms and conditions of most casinos in this crypto casino industry, their policy is very clear and simple, which states that you will not be asking to do any form of kyc verification, unless they suspect anything suspicious.

So when trying to make a withdrawal or a large one, you may be asked to do your kyc, so as long as it is stated already in their TOS that it may be asked for if they see the need to do so, it's not shady as you proclaimed, but it will only be shady when nothing like that is started in their Tos.

Casinos that demand Kyc during big withdrawals appear to be suspicious because of the way and manners they go about it, they have a policy which is fine but it must not be when people are trying to make bug withdrawals. They should be transparent enough to very whatever they want to very when the player is busy playing games and not when they are about to make withdrawals after spending time using the casino. Casinos are fast to remember what they have in their TOS during withdrawals they do not suspect cheating when people are losing don't you think there's something they are not explaining to us.

[Y3shot]

I get your plight. It looks very tricky when there is request for kyc when one wins big. But sometimes these requests is done by licensed casinos as there are regulations to verify large withdrawals to prove if you are the owner of the money.

If this a reason to request for kyc why is it not stated for gamblers to know that their is amount that kyc is need than trying to claim to be a complete no kyc casino.

And also kyc verification can be asked by shady casino who do not want to pay gamblers their winnings when its big. They use this verification to get gamblers tired and frustrated to get them abandon withdrawal

So it can be a legit kyc verification and a tricky one not to pay gamblers.

It this is also a reason it means such casino is a scam casino. Their is no excuse for any casino to give. Any  casino that doesn't stand by their conditions then it is not a reliable one and it is a red flag for gamblers to avoid.

[Cointxz]

Casinos that demand Kyc during big withdrawals appear to be suspicious because of the way and manners they go about it, they have a policy which is fine but it must not be when people are trying to make bug withdrawals. They should be transparent enough to very whatever they want to very when the player is busy playing games and not when they are about to make withdrawals after spending time using the casino. Casinos are fast to remember what they have in their TOS during withdrawals they do not suspect cheating when people are losing don't you think there's something they are not explaining to us.

Not necessarily suspicious since they have obligation to AML to KYC users especially when the amount involved is already high. This is only true if the casino was licensed.

What’s suspicious is when the casino ask for KYC and they are using lots of excuse just to delay or forfeit withdrawal due to alleged ToS violation without supporting evidence.

Legit casino do ask KYC too on huge withdrawal. The only difference is they verify quickly if you submit a valid ID.