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This is the "Proof" , it would help if Barwiz gives his point of view and fix his diferences with lajz99/ScamReport
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June 30, 2014, 11:37:02 PM |
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This is the "Proof" , it would help if Barwiz gives his point of view and fix his diferences with lajz99/ScamReport
I don't think there's any need to post the image here... |
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June 30, 2014, 11:48:34 PM |
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This is the "Proof" , it would help if Barwiz gives his point of view and fix his diferences with lajz99/ScamReport
I don't think there's any need to post the image here... Exactly my point , There is no need to publish shit here, so stop fudding y fix the things with Barwiz |
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andyatcrux
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June 30, 2014, 11:54:21 PM |
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Is there a chat group in session? IRC seems empty and though I missed the General Fund I hold enough NRS to care about its future. Skype Instant Messaging perhaps?
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When did the mining stop? I am updating NoirShare entry on CPU Coin List. I removed Noirshares from the front page and will re-add when the mining restarts. |
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andyatcrux
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July 01, 2014, 01:58:46 AM
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When did the mining stop? I am updating NoirShare entry on CPU Coin List. I removed Noirshares from the front page and will re-add when the mining restarts. I think Proof of Work is nearly over if not already. |
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July 01, 2014, 02:27:09 AM |
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When did the mining stop? I am updating NoirShare entry on CPU Coin List. I removed Noirshares from the front page and will re-add when the mining restarts. I think Proof of Work is nearly over if not already. POW ended at block 50000, now it's only PoS. |
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July 01, 2014, 03:34:09 AM |
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As a GF holder I am asking for the address to the pre-mine and also records of all the transactions that have occurred whether it was in BTC or NRS.
I want to see what the dev has done with all the funding he's been getting.
Also, a break down of how much NRS and BTC each GF is entitled to and is owed to.
You have not made any payouts, yet you continue to mine BTC and new information has surfaced of what Barwizi did with a considerable amount of NRS.
There is proof Barwizi acted against NRS's best interest.
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July 01, 2014, 05:20:09 AM |
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I used the zip one, and downloaded all the blockchain. First time it gets slow around block 50000, but with time it moved forward and synced. I closed it and open again, and it went back to block 49140, with 2501 blocks remaining, it looks stuck right now, can't sync. Do we need to add any node? did you delete everything except wallet.dat? if yes, then 1)go to debug and 2) do "getpeerinfo" you'll 3) find the problem node, then 4) block it in your firewall settings. I've re-downloaded, and it happened again. It syncs at first, then after closing and open again the wallet, I got those 2501 blocks missing... How do I find the node with problems? They all have same "startingheight: 51689", or should I look for something else? Here is my getpeerinfo:
"addr" : "67.212.70.89:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143421,
"lastrecv" : 1404143437,
"conntime" : 1404143417,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "202.152.167.74:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143430,
"lastrecv" : 1404143428,
"conntime" : 1404143419,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "115.29.53.115:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143436,
"conntime" : 1404143420,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "182.107.196.38:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "76.126.117.233:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143425,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "184.68.133.150:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143429,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143422,
"version" : 60007,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "23.249.161.254:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143423,
"conntime" : 1404143423,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
Mine does the same. Works fine on first run after deleting all but the wallet.dat. Once I close it and reopen it, only part of my NRS balance shows and it sits at 2588 Blocks remaining and will not sync again unless I delete everything and install again. |
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July 01, 2014, 07:04:40 AM |
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As a GF holder I am asking for the address to the pre-mine and also records of all the transactions that have occurred whether it was in BTC or NRS.
I want to see what the dev has done with all the funding he's been getting.
Also, a break down of how much NRS and BTC each GF is entitled to and is owed to.
You have not made any payouts, yet you continue to mine BTC and new information has surfaced of what Barwizi did with a considerable amount of NRS.
There is proof Barwizi acted against NRS's best interest.
+1Although to my knowledge there was no premine. I started solomining on the day NoirShares started and there is nothing that indicates there was a premine, I mined some low blocks the first week. I remember reading on the BitSharesTalkforum there was a discussion going on between Barwizi and Invictus about 10% that had to be set apart for AGS and PTS holders because he wanted to base his DAC on their software (which never has been a secret to my knowledge). I can remember reading there that he has been saying that he wanted to mine 4% for that. To my knowledge he has not mined them before, but maybe rented some extra computer power to mine that part. He said there that has made a snapshot of the Bitsharesblockchain and AGS to be able to payout those shares. As far as I know Barwizi never has made a secret of wanting to use technology developed by others to found the DAC of the NoirSharesGroup, like BitShares, Counterparty, Ethereum. That said, I want things to be clear also, as a shareholder I deserve that, so openness about all spending should be given. If Barwizi has sold 130.000 of his own mined NoirShares, he has the right to do so, although it is not that cool. Maybe he had a reason for that (like needing to pay his living expenses). Until there is proof, I don't believe that Barwizi acted against NRS best interest, but that Lazj99 and him have a personal problem. No proof has been presented to my knowledge. |
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andyatcrux
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July 01, 2014, 08:39:51 AM |
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As a GF holder I am asking for the address to the pre-mine and also records of all the transactions that have occurred whether it was in BTC or NRS.
I want to see what the dev has done with all the funding he's been getting.
Also, a break down of how much NRS and BTC each GF is entitled to and is owed to.
You have not made any payouts, yet you continue to mine BTC and new information has surfaced of what Barwizi did with a considerable amount of NRS.
There is proof Barwizi acted against NRS's best interest.
+1Although to my knowledge there was no premine. I started solomining on the day NoirShares started and there is nothing that indicates there was a premine, I mined some low blocks the first week. I remember reading on the BitSharesTalkforum there was a discussion going on between Barwizi and Invictus about 10% that had to be set apart for AGS and PTS holders because he wanted to base his DAC on their software (which never has been a secret to my knowledge). I can remember reading there that he has been saying that he wanted to mine 4% for that. To my knowledge he has not mined them before, but maybe rented some extra computer power to mine that part. He said there that has made a snapshot of the Bitsharesblockchain and AGS to be able to payout those shares. As far as I know Barwizi never has made a secret of wanting to use technology developed by others to found the DAC of the NoirSharesGroup, like BitShares, Counterparty, Ethereum. That said, I want things to be clear also, as a shareholder I deserve that, so openness about all spending should be given. If Barwizi has sold 130.000 of his own mined NoirShares, he has the right to do so, although it is not that cool. Maybe he had a reason for that (like needing to pay his living expenses). Until there is proof, I don't believe that Barwizi acted against NRS best interest, but that Lazj99 and him have a personal problem. No proof has been presented to my knowledge. No premine. Why the assumption that there is? Where is the due diligence. Que the face-palm GIF.. |
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July 01, 2014, 09:09:16 AM
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Barwizi:
Whatever we need to discuss, we can discuss publicly in this open forum.
The group's intentions need to be transparent to gain investor trust.
Until then, I refuse to go on skype.
Thinking about it twice, I really dont care anymore.
I was presented proof that he dumped 130 000 NRS when it started to soar hurting his own project.
Who in their right mind hurts their own company like that?
Someone who only cares to squeeze as much BTC out of people as possible.
contact lajz99, he knows more about this.
personally, I'm done trying to discuss this. The whole thing is moronic.
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Jago
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July 01, 2014, 09:19:16 AM |
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What are you talking about?
Is there any negative info about NRS?
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r05
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test cryptocoin please ignore
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July 01, 2014, 09:27:57 AM |
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welp!
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fiatpete
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July 01, 2014, 09:29:39 AM |
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I used the zip one, and downloaded all the blockchain. First time it gets slow around block 50000, but with time it moved forward and synced. I closed it and open again, and it went back to block 49140, with 2501 blocks remaining, it looks stuck right now, can't sync. Do we need to add any node? did you delete everything except wallet.dat? if yes, then 1)go to debug and 2) do "getpeerinfo" you'll 3) find the problem node, then 4) block it in your firewall settings. I've re-downloaded, and it happened again. It syncs at first, then after closing and open again the wallet, I got those 2501 blocks missing... How do I find the node with problems? They all have same "startingheight: 51689", or should I look for something else? Here is my getpeerinfo:
"addr" : "67.212.70.89:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143421,
"lastrecv" : 1404143437,
"conntime" : 1404143417,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "202.152.167.74:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143430,
"lastrecv" : 1404143428,
"conntime" : 1404143419,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "115.29.53.115:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143436,
"conntime" : 1404143420,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "182.107.196.38:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "76.126.117.233:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143425,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "184.68.133.150:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143429,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143422,
"version" : 60007,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "23.249.161.254:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143423,
"conntime" : 1404143423,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
Mine does the same. Works fine on first run after deleting all but the wallet.dat. Once I close it and reopen it, only part of my NRS balance shows and it sits at 2588 Blocks remaining and will not sync again unless I delete everything and install again. Same here it downloaded fine when I deleted everything apart from the wallet and reinstalled. The full blockchain downloaded and even staked a block but after shutting it down and restarting it was out of sync and stuck at block 49247 so I don't know what it did with those extra blocks after 49247 it just had. A getpeerinfo only shows 1.9.1 clients either version 6006 or 6007 with blocks over 5000 so it doesn't look like an issue caused by connecting to old nodes. The debug file is full of entries like :- ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: check kernel failed on coinstake 7d6ab2bc3589a0e44a993e984994d5004356ad8828ae70e79d06374835060b88, hashProof=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 WARNING: ProcessBlock(): check proof-of-stake failed for block 0003cb6edeb1b33cfa29b73f62f1d44518c5e64f942b28778072da9668ca7256 It's looking like there was no quality control on the all PoS version of the wallet and not enough time to do it properly. As this was meant to be a major long term release why does it still use an old version of QT? |
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July 01, 2014, 09:33:02 AM |
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What are you talking about?
Is there any negative info about NRS?
People running the project haven't been completely honest. I'm calling this a loss and just moving on. It was good playing. |
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barwizi
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July 01, 2014, 10:58:34 AM |
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I used the zip one, and downloaded all the blockchain. First time it gets slow around block 50000, but with time it moved forward and synced. I closed it and open again, and it went back to block 49140, with 2501 blocks remaining, it looks stuck right now, can't sync. Do we need to add any node? did you delete everything except wallet.dat? if yes, then 1)go to debug and 2) do "getpeerinfo" you'll 3) find the problem node, then 4) block it in your firewall settings. I've re-downloaded, and it happened again. It syncs at first, then after closing and open again the wallet, I got those 2501 blocks missing... How do I find the node with problems? They all have same "startingheight: 51689", or should I look for something else? Here is my getpeerinfo:
"addr" : "67.212.70.89:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143421,
"lastrecv" : 1404143437,
"conntime" : 1404143417,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "202.152.167.74:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143430,
"lastrecv" : 1404143428,
"conntime" : 1404143419,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "115.29.53.115:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143436,
"conntime" : 1404143420,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "182.107.196.38:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "76.126.117.233:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143425,
"conntime" : 1404143421,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "184.68.133.150:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143429,
"lastrecv" : 1404143424,
"conntime" : 1404143422,
"version" : 60007,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "23.249.161.254:8500",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1404143425,
"lastrecv" : 1404143423,
"conntime" : 1404143423,
"version" : 60006,
"subver" : "/NoirShares:1.9.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"startingheight" : 51689,
"banscore" : 0
Mine does the same. Works fine on first run after deleting all but the wallet.dat. Once I close it and reopen it, only part of my NRS balance shows and it sits at 2588 Blocks remaining and will not sync again unless I delete everything and install again. Same here it downloaded fine when I deleted everything apart from the wallet and reinstalled. The full blockchain downloaded and even staked a block but after shutting it down and restarting it was out of sync and stuck at block 49247 so I don't know what it did with those extra blocks after 49247 it just had. A getpeerinfo only shows 1.9.1 clients either version 6006 or 6007 with blocks over 5000 so it doesn't look like an issue caused by connecting to old nodes. The debug file is full of entries like :- ERROR: CheckProofOfStake() : INFO: check kernel failed on coinstake 7d6ab2bc3589a0e44a993e984994d5004356ad8828ae70e79d06374835060b88, hashProof=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 WARNING: ProcessBlock(): check proof-of-stake failed for block 0003cb6edeb1b33cfa29b73f62f1d44518c5e64f942b28778072da9668ca7256 It's looking like there was no quality control on the all PoS version of the wallet and not enough time to do it properly. As this was meant to be a major long term release why does it still use an old version of QT? You are all facing the same issue, rouge nodes that are transmitting incorrect chain. version 60007 is the latest and syncs just fine, please look in your debug log and on "getpeerinfo" in your wallet, find the nodes broadcasting the bad chain and block them. We realised that if we do a complete forced peer block in the first phase of cutting them out, we run the risk of completely fragmenting the chain. This update allows people to sync, the next with a version bump again will completely lock out all other peers. We made a mistake in the first version so we split the update into two, as you can see, some have working wallets and others do not. You'll find that most who are having issues are connecting to the same set of nodes. Please block the bad nodes in your firewall settings Control Panel\System and Security\Windows Firewall then go to advanced settings and modify your invound and out bound rules to block the offending nodes. |
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July 01, 2014, 11:11:49 AM |
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As a GF holder I am asking for the address to the pre-mine and also records of all the transactions that have occurred whether it was in BTC or NRS.
I want to see what the dev has done with all the funding he's been getting.
Also, a break down of how much NRS and BTC each GF is entitled to and is owed to.
You have not made any payouts, yet you continue to mine BTC and new information has surfaced of what Barwizi did with a considerable amount of NRS.
There is proof Barwizi acted against NRS's best interest.
+1Although to my knowledge there was no premine. I started solomining on the day NoirShares started and there is nothing that indicates there was a premine, I mined some low blocks the first week. I remember reading on the BitSharesTalkforum there was a discussion going on between Barwizi and Invictus about 10% that had to be set apart for AGS and PTS holders because he wanted to base his DAC on their software (which never has been a secret to my knowledge). I can remember reading there that he has been saying that he wanted to mine 4% for that. To my knowledge he has not mined them before, but maybe rented some extra computer power to mine that part. He said there that has made a snapshot of the Bitsharesblockchain and AGS to be able to payout those shares. As far as I know Barwizi never has made a secret of wanting to use technology developed by others to found the DAC of the NoirSharesGroup, like BitShares, Counterparty, Ethereum. That said, I want things to be clear also, as a shareholder I deserve that, so openness about all spending should be given. If Barwizi has sold 130.000 of his own mined NoirShares, he has the right to do so, although it is not that cool. Maybe he had a reason for that (like needing to pay his living expenses). Until there is proof, I don't believe that Barwizi acted against NRS best interest, but that Lazj99 and him have a personal problem. No proof has been presented to my knowledge. If you look at the code and don't find a premine you're a noob who has no clue what he's looking for. Maybe have a real Dev take a look at the code...or just ask... Barwizi, how big was the premine? Please endulge us. |
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I dunno, this new "community" accusing the nrs of a scam has no proof of it? Often times it is better to just ignore the trolls than it is to feed them. The team is working on the wallet issues, which is a lot more important than dealing with some stupid personal problems.
I am all for shedding light on things. To accuse them of premining, then when someone says it wasn't premined, you say they are lying, yet have no PROOF of them lying and ask for a "real dev" to look at the code. Well shit, how did YOU know it was premined then? Shouldn't you have been a real dev able to look at the code.
To touch upon that, just because the block count is low doesn't mean they can't set the generation of shares to a high figure for the first few blocks. It winds up looking like "if hieght<=10 set generate=10000" or some stupid shit like that, i am not a coder but have seen what laz was talking about in other coins.
Again, trust is something that is earned. I am guessing laz dumped his coins and his share of the general fund and has nothing to lose now by trying to bring the coin down? It is cool for the rest of us... dick. Because without any proof, that is exactly how it looks. Baseless accusations.
Oh my god! They just copied and pasted someones OPEN SOURCE code. Who gives a shit? In all honesty i would rather have the devs using WORKING code from someone else than try to do something them selves and fail. If you think you can't be successful utilizing what others have done, look up utility patents.
So what is the scam? People bought into the general fund, they bought miners with that money, the used the mining proceeds for what ever, and now the general fund members are upset? Someone supposedly dumped 132k nrs? That is the scam? They used some of the funds from the mining operation to start the noirpool.com which wound up going down and never getting fixed? That is the scam? What were the promises to begin with? It is hard to say things are SCAMS vs. just failures. PROOF?
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