[ANN] MiningRigRentals.com - Web pool manager - Easy Mass Rentals - Algos!

[miningrigrentals]

I'll avoid the quotes to keep the post from growing too large.

- I see what you're saying about geolocation now. I think you have a valid point and idea. We have a few ideas on how to tackle this.

- Ratings has been a sticking point for us for awhile now. We really only added ratings in because we feel the user base has grown accustomed to ratings due to similar services.  A lot of feedback we receive suggests that renters care a lot less about ratings than rig owners. Our only thought for the time being is to default 4-5 star ratings based on 90% to 100%+ performance tracked by our current system. Currently we default to no rating and it doesn't reward a well performing rig. Penalizing rig ratings takes a lot more data (cncr04s does have just about every piece of data passed to our logging system for our admin team's review). We will not use automation to ever negatively impact rig ratings.

- We just put the auto cancel/refund system in place and while we can test in beta format, it's much more telling when it's live. So far it's been working as intended and we do plan to expand on this.  We're putting data tracking in place to see where we can further improve upon issues such as offline rigs.

- Average hashrates are shown on completed rentals. You can find a "view" button on completed rentals and or through the transaction logs. This is a relatively new feature (approx. 1 week) so not everyone has noticed it.  Only rig owners and renters of the rental in question can view the average hashrate.  Time extensions do effect the average hashrate so keep that in mind.

- The threshold of warnings is a good suggestion. We'll add this to our todo list

Thank you for all of the feedback. We appreciate you using our service!

[bensam123]

I agree, I think ratings only go to hurt miners (...or possibly your competitors, I do own and rent rigs myself). There are quite a few rigs that I've seen having a bad day, but otherwise hash perfectly fine. I could see ratings being important if you don't have any sort of quantifiable metrics, but we do with the hashrate graph. Other services don't have that so they have to rely on user feedback.

Something that may be more appropriate is a 'quality' indicator instead. Where if a rig hasn't been putting out the correct amount of hashrate for a certain window of time it will degrade. This could be good/bad/poor or maybe a percent, depending on what you want to do. There are a lot of different ways to work with that. Overall it seems like something that depends on user experience and more on what is actually happening. If there was more customer service happening I could see a rating being more important.

I think the most important thing is that it's not permanent and rather a short lived snippet on the rigs themselves. If you guys can view rejects and hardware errors that would also add into this, especially hardware errors. Hardware errors are almost exclusively reliant on the miners themselves so it would directly reflect their hardware and how well they manage it. Errors reduce your hashrate even if it looks like you're getting a good hashrate and are usually caused by too much overclocking or a bad miner. Either way, it's something the renter should have access to and could weigh in with a overall quality indicator.

If you guys have access to the WUs as well, that would be very important for a renter to see, as it shows what you're actually receiving for work sent to a pool. A miner with more rejects and hardware errors will have a lower WU, so it almost completely includes those (although a bad pool can influence WUs too). All of these I think should be made available to the renter on a certain level as it directly influences their purchase, perhaps if they dig a bit more. Most of these a miner can fix or improve on as well, so it's not completely unfair.


Honestly it really doesn't matter what the competitors do if you offer a superior service, that's why I'm here and not over there. A hashrate graph is definitely a step up.

[miningrigrentals]

We appreciate the kind words and support.

The hashrate graph is very much like "WU" it's luck based and averages out over time. It's accepted share rate just displayed as hashrate/graph.  Without API we can't see hardware errors, we do see rejects but the rejects could be the rig or they could be the pool so it's a little trickier.

[patrike]

I have two questions about the API.

1) Will there be a public API method to get the following per algorithm: Lowest cost/MH, Last rental cost/MH
Getting lowest cost can probably be done today by requesting the complete list, but that's not too efficient.

2) What is the reason for using POST requests instead of GET?

Thanks for a great service!

[bensam123]

Please consider a 'scroll down' feature to view more rigs instead of pages. When you have content and you aren't available on the first page, then people don't always start flipping pages. If you could scroll down and it does a endless scroll till all the rigs are on the screen, that'd be nice. Sorta like what google images does.

[bensam123]

Curiously does anyone know if it's possible to make miners lockup more with bad pools? I've noticed when my rigs are rented out sometimes they lockup a lot more, but when I'm mining with them on pools I know, it seems like they don't lockup at all. Of course this is with the same settings and algos as the renters are using.

[miningrigrentals]

I have two questions about the API.

1) Will there be a public API method to get the following per algorithm: Lowest cost/MH, Last rental cost/MH
Getting lowest cost can probably be done today by requesting the complete list, but that's not too efficient.

2) What is the reason for using POST requests instead of GET?

Thanks for a great service!

Sorry about the delayed answers, although we have support over the weekends, we tend to wait until all of us are available during the week to tackle questions.

1. Yes we do have plans to continually evolve the API (development work is ongoing).
2. It will be made compatible with GET

[patrike]

I have two questions about the API.

1) Will there be a public API method to get the following per algorithm: Lowest cost/MH, Last rental cost/MH
Getting lowest cost can probably be done today by requesting the complete list, but that's not too efficient.

2) What is the reason for using POST requests instead of GET?

Thanks for a great service!

Sorry about the delayed answers, although we have support over the weekends, we tend to wait until all of us are available during the week to tackle questions.

1. Yes we do have plans to continually evolve the API (development work is ongoing).
2. It will be made compatible with GET

Thanks for your reply. That sounds great!

I'm currently implementing support for several popular mining services in Awesome Miner, and for MiningRigRentals I will display the current BTC/MH/Day when the rig is rented.

[IIpeBeD_MeDBeD]

Is the site currently offline?
Whats problem?
i cant connect to it from Russia
Ip 178.187.....

[miningrigrentals]

Is the site currently offline?
Whats problem?
i cant connect to it from Russia
Ip 178.187.....

The site was not offline during that period. However, it's possible cloudflare was slow or unresponsive for your region. There was a site outage (not mining/backend) yesterday. Our hosting provider had networking issues. That has since been resolved and we're now testing a migration to another provider as I type this.

[w3e30us]

What's the fee?

Can't seem to find it anywhere...

Calculated it seems to be around 3%.

Is this correct?

[miningrigrentals]

What's the fee?

Can't seem to find it anywhere...

Calculated it seems to be around 3%.

Is this correct?

Yes this is correct.

[bensam123]

It appears there are problems with MRR multiple mining contracts and Coinking. Coinking uses a vardiff that ends up getting insanely high. If you use one worker it ends up ridiculously high depending on how many miners you rent. Definitely not compatible with MRR right now and it appears that you can't manually override the vardiff.

For instance:



All the rigs except for one did this for the entire five hour time period I rented them, of course the payout on the pool reflected this too. They were fine for the first hour or so.

[miningrigrentals]

It appears there are problems with MRR multiple mining contracts and Coinking. Coinking uses a vardiff that ends up getting insanely high. If you use one worker it ends up ridiculously high depending on how many miners you rent. Definitely not compatible with MRR right now and it appears that you can't manually override the vardiff.

For instance:



All the rigs except for one did this for the entire five hour time period I rented them, of course the payout on the pool reflected this too. They were fine for the first hour or so.

Please note that in the image you've linked, the rig performed near advertised the full duration of the rental. The black line floats near or on the advertised rate. This is the "moving average."  The moving average combines every ~5min snapshot of the share rate as the rental progresses.

[bensam123]

Looking at the average hashrate that appears to be correct. Some of the rig owners were freaking out over it and reseting their rigs though as well as giving 'compensation' time even though I didn't request any or even notice the problem till the time was up. There should be a better way of dealing with this.

Please add the ability to sort only by available rigs or available within X amount of time.

Please make browsers remember your last filter settings.

This may be a me thing, but it'd be great if the page view included all algos and you filtered ones out you don't want. It would give people a more comprehensive view of the mining landscape instead of their little niche like x11. If the advanced options and options in general were more minimalistic they could simply be left open all the time.

It'd be great if the website was refined a bit more, I know that's probably asking to 'do things better', but it often times feels sluggish and you can't freely scroll through the miners

[miningrigrentals]

Looking at the average hashrate that appears to be correct. Some of the rig owners were freaking out over it and reseting their rigs though as well as giving 'compensation' time even though I didn't request any or even notice the problem till the time was up. There should be a better way of dealing with this.

Please add the ability to sort only by available rigs or available within X amount of time.

Please make browsers remember your last filter settings.

This may be a me thing, but it'd be great if the page view included all algos and you filtered ones out you don't want. It would give people a more comprehensive view of the mining landscape instead of their little niche like x11. If the advanced options and options in general were more minimalistic they could simply be left open all the time.

It'd be great if the website was refined a bit more, I know that's probably asking to 'do things better', but it often times feels sluggish and you can't freely scroll through the miners

Lots of suggestions here. Thank you for that.

When we added mass rentals we added the ability to create "Profiles."  This is the best way to rent because you create the filter once and only the rigs that meet your requirements will display. Once you have some profiles assembled, renting really is only two clicks.

We naturally considered all rigs in the same list view with filters on the different algos. This was ultimately scratched primarily to keep the site more efficient. There is a ton of information being requested on the various list pages. By listing all of the rigs we would be creating even more demand on the system.

We do want to refine the website. We have added a lot of features since the day we decided to see if anyone would use this service. Each time we add a feature it's literally bolted to the website where there is room.  Because of this, we really need to stay focused on a few more large features we have in development before revising the site. It's better to have the bulk of our features completed before we lay in the lipstick.

[bensam123]

Please add the ability to quick enable/disable rigs from the management page. Also the ability to quick modify cost as well. Both of these I seem to do a lot, but it takes quite a few clicks more then it should (go into each individual miner page and set prices, enable/disable, go to a different page for the same miner, enable/disable, change prices).

Please add a warning if a price entered for a rig is extremely low or extremely high (below the lowest current rental or above them). A misplaced 0 can mean a lot.

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Please add a warning if a price entered for a rig is extremely low or extremely high (below the lowest current rental or above them). A misplaced 0 can mean a lot.

Ugh, all those zeroes... There has to be a better way. At least for sha256, maybe it would be better to display price per TH*day, or give, as a reference, a mining profitability (i.e. how much you would earn a day per TH, if you were mining bitcoin in a pool). And show percentage of how much higher/lower your price is relative to this reference number. Allow to click that reference profitability to populate price field for your rig.

[suchmoon]

Does anyone know who compaqtco is and why he/she is fucking with ratings?

Rents a rig for 3 hours, rig performs at 100%+, I get 4 stars.

Rig underperforms (variance can be a bitch within 3 hours), no contact attempt, even if I catch it and add extra time I still get 2-3 stars.

I looked at some of their past ratings and it seems I'm not the only one affected by this.

Looks like someone is targeting competition but before I go complain to support I'd like to make sure it's not MRR itself doing some ill-advised QA or something.

Any ideas?

[fred96002001]

don't let them rip you off.
They are a scam! they ripped me off see full report. then they band me from there site after they ripped me off.  they throttle  down your equipment then you don't get nothing. i got cheated and i am upset rather then fixing the problem they band me.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/miningrigrentalscom/internet/miningrigrentalscom-rent-your-BitCoin-rig-and-dont-get-paid-with-miningrigrentalscom-I-1179762