AMT fucks us over again

[Gleb Gamow]

The word of the day is Oxymoron: An oxymoron is a figure of speech that juxtaposes elements that appear to be contradictory.

http://buzzsparks.org/person/joshua-zipkin



http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/wisdom-inc

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[opieum2]

Fascinating. I wonder if these companies are made up aliases also. Not too many records of them out there outside of his mention of them.

[Gleb Gamow]

Fascinating. I wonder if these companies are made up aliases also. Not too many records of them out there outside of his mention of them.

http://thedealfair.com/ is still around.

http://www.crunchbase.com/organization/the-deal-fair

Founded: March 30, 2011

Contact:joshua@thedealfair.com

Employees: 1 in CrunchBase

I'm pretty sure Joshua Zipkin is walking these streets these days: https://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&es_sm=122&q=%22133+Nishava%22+sofia&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=G1QOVIGCK476oQSW-YKACw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ

[opieum2]

I think Joshua Zipkin expects this to go away with time. That by not posting and closing threads and all that, that somehow the money and problems he has caused us with all this will suddenly go away. He has already made a public claim he will refund us but with no timeline, the group chats he was apart of state otherwise. Of course he has said things like this before only to say something different in the group chat as I have shown using his own words. So if he still intends to sue me, he can as is his right, I will merely just show the court his OWN words on the matter. All I did was comment on things HE said. And I will continue to do so as Joshua Zipkin AKA AMT_Miners aka Paul.augustine aka Amanda will not suppress my first amendment right to express myself. I have done things well within the law. However can you Joshua Zipkin say the same? Be aware coming at me will expose you in a MUCH worse way once I have show the court what YOU have said. It was a tactically stupid move. BUT feel free to try as is your right. I do have the money and I do have the time to take you on. And WHEN I win, I will come at you for damages far in excess of the refund, financial damages as your posting of my info and false info as fact counts as libel along with criminal charges of fraud which are clear and present, (the info you claim of me are lies are where I opine, speculation which I state which is within my constitutional right to express). I have already spoken to counsel on the matter as well on this. I have said nothing false about you as they are your own words despite your claims to the contrary. BUT you have said false things about me not to mention those words likely have criminal consequences as you are a CEO and there was a business arrangement that you violated (privacy matters governed by the FTC). And I can easily prove it with YOUR own words. Is that a fight you want?

As of this writing the false information still persists. I AM already perusing this to the fullest extent that the law allows.

[opieum2]

I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.

[Gleb Gamow]

I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.

Info gleaned from the same address: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&oq=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.9370.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.kokC5Hlt61g

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1093&bih=508&q=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&oq=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.10360.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.XKgKgPfPLrI

http://www.baihangcn.com/sell/show-57845.html

So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.

Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.

Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out)  I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been.

http://www.china.cn/taishiji/3361846041.html

13725365850

Guangzhou Teng Instant Software Technology Co.

Contact: Mr. Huang

Remember when Josh said he's been to BA's facility?

IT'S THE SAME MOTHERFUCKIN' BUILDING!

[opieum2]

Hmm, this appears to be a collusion of sorts. Least my opinion but largely based on  AMT_Miners aka Joshua Zipkin's own statements that they are working with BA, if you have 2 of the same types of companies operating from the same location, with the same issues with customers, it starts to look a bit fishy. Something else worth noting. Law enforcement is moving glacially slow on this. The only main proof I have is what Josh himself has said on the matter. Beyond that it's speculative and circumstantial....but still worth looking into to dig up more solid proof to link the two businesses.

I would also like to note that this is the Chinese company that makes the 800 dollar miners he sent us. http://www.stetc.com Something for people to note when doing business with them.

Info gleaned from the same address: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&oq=%22stetc.com%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.9370.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.kokC5Hlt61g

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&biw=1093&bih=508&q=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&oq=%22sleenet%40vip.qq.com%22&gs_l=serp.12...0.0.0.10360.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..53.serp..0.0.0.XKgKgPfPLrI

http://www.baihangcn.com/sell/show-57845.html

So, just to confirm I have this right.

An independent member on this forum has reached out to a third party. The third party company gave confirmation that Black Arrow is a customer and the specs look accurate. Is that right?

in part. of course, yes.

So, a third party member who is totally unaffiliated and actually has been doubting us as much as everyone else has contacted a third party company who confirmed we are a customer.

I must be missing something because it seems to me like there is still a lot of doubt we are who we say we are.

Because a user pointed out that the email had been compromised in the past.

Did you by any chance try to contact the other e-mail address cc'd on your initial e-mail thread with Mr. Huang or Kwang? (I can't remember and I'm not looking through 3 pages to find out)  I know PH said that his, Huang/Kwang, was compromised but what about that other gentleman, I thought the consensus was that his apparently hadn't been.

http://www.china.cn/taishiji/3361846041.html

13725365850

Guangzhou Teng Instant Software Technology Co.

Contact: Mr. Huang

Remember when Josh said he's been to BA's facility?

IT'S THE SAME MOTHERFUCKIN' BUILDING!

[notbatman]

www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

"Black Arrow is a customer"

BA outsourced the miners? Am I reading this correctly?

[Gleb Gamow]

www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

"Black Arrow is a customer"

BA outsourced the miners? Am I reading this correctly?

Where the hell did you come up with that Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!? I was simply pointing out the possibility that:

- www.stetc.com It looks like a Chinese TechnoBit, he's got Scrypt ASICs, Avalon ASICs and Cointerra ASICs.

- "Black Arrow is a customer"

- BA outsourced the miners?

See the difference?   Am I reading your reply correctly?  

We feel like you've effectively stolen our money under a false pretenses and false promises. You cannot be surprised we're all pissed off

As we have announced previously, we are testing the power supplies and waiting for CE certification team to get back to us. Until then, we cannot deliver X3s, no matter how much you flood this thread. Note that we will continue manufacturing X3s and as soon the PSU is ready we'll deliver everything that was manufactured.

We have also started working with a better factory that is able to manufacture everything very fast.

What excellent timing! I exposed them fucks, then BA opts to move the operation to a better faster Chink Joint.

[opieum2]

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

[opieum2]

The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting for us and the bitcoin mining community at large....stay tuned.

[marto74]

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

[opieum2]

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Except I have not. Others may have but I have been sticking with his actions. I largely do not care about nationalities and religious affiliations. Actions make the man. And his actions and inactions are the problem here. Your personal association (because of your wives being friends his words not mine) with him will also have implications for you even if you are not guilty of anything. Just a friendly word of advice I have no quarrel with you. I have mentioned he goes to Bulgaria, but that again is based on HIS own words which have been posted for the world to see. So any association to Bulgaria is based on Joshua Zipkins words and used in reference to the place not his nationality. As far as I am concerned he is an United States national/citizen, which makes him subject to USA laws.

So you may want to quote where I mention him being Bulgarian or being bad because he is Bulgarian because I have not. These are things that need to be quoted if I indeed said them. Instead you quoted one of my last posts, instead you quoted my post about collusion. Make of that what you will.

My issue here is not hate. It's about making sure the bad actors in the mining community are permanently removed. If you are above board and all your actions are in accordance with US laws (as you do sell to people here you could be held liable), then there is nothing to worry about. But collusion means this was a concerted effort to rip off the customers. And Considering that there are a few bad actors with the same exact situation as AMT. I feel it is a matter worth some investigation. Again if you are doing nothing wrong and are confident of that position, then there is nothing to worry about.

If you have the occasional customer service issue (which I do see you have), those are understandable. But when your entire customer base is screaming for refunds and suing you, then there is something to be concerned about. For your own good (again I have no problems with you marto74) I would recommend you do not stand up for him. It will not help you.

[sirminesalot]

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Uh yeah, he is Bulgarian. In fact, he's in Bulgaria right now - hiding from his customers.

[opieum2]

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Uh yeah, he is Bulgarian. In fact, he's in Bulgaria right now - hiding from his customers.

Regardless that fact right now is irrelevant. He is still a US citizen...or at the very least has some legal tie to the USA. Plus a registered business in the United States, which makes him subject to United States laws.  Religion, race, whatever all that right now is irrelevant except for his legal national status. IF not him then they arrest Jim Brown/Tyler Loomis as the partner who I imagine to get leniency will gladly drop the dime on Joshua Zipkin.

[opieum2]

I think up to this point I have proven how far I am willing to go to ensure Joshua Zipkin gets justice for his actions. This is just the beginning since he still has to this point not removed the offending information or even apologized for posting information that is blatantly false and puts my family and I into extreme danger....not that it matters as it has already been mirrored elsewhere and can and will be used against him in a court of CRIMINAL law. So that is how the matter is being perused. My guess is he will be too "busy" to show up at the inside bitcoins conference in Vegas in October.

[marto74]

I'm not standing for or against him.
I'm just reacting , because here you personally use the name of our company very often.
I do not like that.
The facts are simple: he ordered boards and paid for them back in Oct/Nov.
In the beginning of this year he purchased a licence for our A1 design and paid for it.
End of story.
Despite yours and Bicknelski statements we do not have other personal contacts and he never met a member of my family or any of my friends.
Just a customer that was correct in our dealings, as a matter of a fact. Of course I always required advance payment
I do not like when all this public writing about my family is going in to the mouth of a troll like Bick. He'll never forgive me that his project was a total failure and ours are working.
And as far I understand this was started by some of your posts.
If I receive a formal court or officials  request I can provide our records concerning our business with AMT and Mr Zipkin.
So again
please just skip Technobit in your daily posts about Josh Zipkin''s affairs !

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Except I have not. Others may have but I have been sticking with his actions. I largely do not care about nationalities and religious affiliations. Actions make the man. And his actions and inactions are the problem here. Your personal association (because of your wives being friends his words not mine) with him will also have implications for you even if you are not guilty of anything. Just a friendly word of advice I have no quarrel with you. I have mentioned he goes to Bulgaria, but that again is based on HIS own words which have been posted for the world to see. So any association to Bulgaria is based on Joshua Zipkins words and used in reference to the place not his nationality. As far as I am concerned he is an United States national/citizen, which makes him subject to USA laws.

So you may want to quote where I mention him being Bulgarian or being bad because he is Bulgarian because I have not. These are things that need to be quoted if I indeed said them. Instead you quoted one of my last posts, instead you quoted my post about collusion. Make of that what you will.

My issue here is not hate. It's about making sure the bad actors in the mining community are permanently removed. If you are above board and all your actions are in accordance with US laws (as you do sell to people here you could be held liable), then there is nothing to worry about. But collusion means this was a concerted effort to rip off the customers. And Considering that there are a few bad actors with the same exact situation as AMT. I feel it is a matter worth some investigation. Again if you are doing nothing wrong and are confident of that position, then there is nothing to worry about.

If you have the occasional customer service issue (which I do see you have), those are understandable. But when your entire customer base is screaming for refunds and suing you, then there is something to be concerned about. For your own good (again I have no problems with you marto74) I would recommend you do not stand up for him. It will not help you.

[opieum2]

Fine you could have just backed off after my last statement and I would not have reposted any of this. But I guess your customers need to see this too. Josh basically ratted on all of you. Your relationship clearly goes beyond just "a license" You trusted him the same way we did. Since you have decided to take your little feud with bick and somehow include me into it, this is how it goes down. Let the community decide. I did not leak the initial chats. But I am going to be dropping new ones now to show. And no lawsuit on earth can stop this. Cease and desist what? I was under no confidentiality, I was under no agreement. AND these are his words.....you should take it up with him. Note that I never mentioned your company once in my own words here. But Joshuz Zipkin did. If these things are false, well you have not said otherwise. My matter is dealing with the bad actors in the bitcoin mining community. This has gone WAY beyond just Joshua Zipkin and refunds and outing my information. That criminal matter will be dealt with of course.

JOSHUA ZIPKINS OWN WORDS take it up with him. Don't shoot the messenger.

[5/31/2014 12:28:50 AM] Joshua: in general the previous guys hacked the firmware tplink came with and moded a new update which we install
[5/31/2014 12:28:53 AM] Joshua: which is illegal
[5/31/2014 12:30:10 AM] Joshua: but.. yea, it works. But the think is technobit/martin is a dick and locks him firmware/software on his boards and his connectivity devices. And because he got into an argument with ckolvakis (cgminer author) he wont inlcude technobit drivers in cgminer
[5/31/2014 12:46:36 AM] Joshua: they heatup to much because technobit takes the same board and mods it per chip over and over, often skipping steps or think about alternative components
[5/31/2014 12:47:18 AM] Joshua: but martin listens to me a bit, like the whole "make it the size of the HDD hardrive and make sure all the connectors are faces on side" is a major improvement
[6/4/2014 10:24:36 PM] Joshua: the wifi miner has a big potential, martin from technobit is 100% on board with it and will invest a bit in the production
[6/12/2014 11:57:49 AM] Joshua: Yea martin's not pissed, he said he figure it out pretty quick. All is wel
[6/12/2014 11:58:17 AM] Joshua: its kinda hard to break up two guys who's wive's are friends. Its what they are trying to do it seems

An investment is not just a license. You are actively participating in the financial success of a business venture as a stake holder and financial beneficiary. Do you really want to keep this going? I will back off mentioning your name. But you certainly are not being forthcoming about your "relationship" with AMT. Let me be VERY clear here. If you are found to have ANYTHING to do with Joshua Zipkin, you too will be held crimally liable, IF not then again, you have NOTHING to worry about. My suggestion...back off. I am being nice right now because again I have had no quarrel with you and Joshua Zipkin is desperate to turn anyone he can against me.

I have already exposed that you are not entirely truthful about your statements about your licenses. AND THIS from the CEO of AMT himself saying this. I think I have more than proven these chats are real. Do you want to keep this going or best leave it alone. You and bick can have at it. I have no quarrel with anyone *this means you marto* unless you have been involved in this mess. If you decide to start standing up for Josh I will consider that you are in collusion with him as there would be no other valid reason for it. The above statements by the CEO of AMT Joshua Zipkin already demonstrate the discrepancy between what you stated and what he stated is actually happening.

I'm not standing for or against him.
I'm just reacting , because here you personally use the name of our company very often.
I do not like that.
The facts are simple: he ordered boards and paid for them back in Oct/Nov.
In the beginning of this year he purchased a licence for our A1 design and paid for it.
End of story.
Despite yours and Bicknelski statements we do not have other personal contacts and he never met a member of my family or any of my friends.
Just a customer that was correct in our dealings, as a matter of a fact. Of course I always required advance payment
I do not like when all this public writing about my family is going in to the mouth of a troll like Bick. He'll never forgive me that his project was a total failure and ours are working.
And as far I understand this was started by some of your posts.
If I receive a formal court or officials  request I can provide our records concerning our business with AMT and Mr Zipkin.
So again
please just skip Technobit in your daily posts about Josh Zipkin''s affairs !

There appears to be a clear case of collusion among these vendors. Joshua Zipkin mentions these business relationships with other vendors who should be competitors. This could be a disturbing situation for us all who are customers of any of these "troubled" companies. Of course all this is based on the available information that has been posted and Josh's words themselves. While he never outright mentions collusion he does say he has business relationships...which is odd considering they would in effect be competitors. Its like Ford and Chevy working together to sell cars. They could be pooling resources to build "petahash farms" and such to enrich themselves at our expense. An action like this could cause major problems in the mining community. And it's all our worst fears realized. It would also explain the delays we have had as well. Worth looking into if it is the case.

Oh and since Joshua Zipkin and his mentality attitude is of any indication....seeing how he edited the alliance he had with BA (just like Black Arrow has also been doing), Here is the ORIGINAL information that someone else waybacked..

http://web.archive.org/web/20140906213337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569926.260

At this point his nonsense editing cannot be taken back. Sucks for me because my info stays out there, but sucks worse for him because its evidence against his hostile and vindictive actions against his clients who gave him money. ALSO the admission that he does indeed work with Black arrow and Technobit. At any rate it might be good for some BA customers and AMT customers to start comparing notes. There could be a collusion here to collectivly rip us off considering the history that the CEO of BA already has with the alleged credit fraud in Romania.

Just be careful when you follow Bicknelski's hate and try to put us into this mess !
And please Josh Zipkin is not a Bulgarian in any way, so stop using "Bulgarian" as an offence

Except I have not. Others may have but I have been sticking with his actions. I largely do not care about nationalities and religious affiliations. Actions make the man. And his actions and inactions are the problem here. Your personal association (because of your wives being friends his words not mine) with him will also have implications for you even if you are not guilty of anything. Just a friendly word of advice I have no quarrel with you. I have mentioned he goes to Bulgaria, but that again is based on HIS own words which have been posted for the world to see. So any association to Bulgaria is based on Joshua Zipkins words and used in reference to the place not his nationality. As far as I am concerned he is an United States national/citizen, which makes him subject to USA laws.

So you may want to quote where I mention him being Bulgarian or being bad because he is Bulgarian because I have not. These are things that need to be quoted if I indeed said them. Instead you quoted one of my last posts, instead you quoted my post about collusion. Make of that what you will.

My issue here is not hate. It's about making sure the bad actors in the mining community are permanently removed. If you are above board and all your actions are in accordance with US laws (as you do sell to people here you could be held liable), then there is nothing to worry about. But collusion means this was a concerted effort to rip off the customers. And Considering that there are a few bad actors with the same exact situation as AMT. I feel it is a matter worth some investigation. Again if you are doing nothing wrong and are confident of that position, then there is nothing to worry about.

If you have the occasional customer service issue (which I do see you have), those are understandable. But when your entire customer base is screaming for refunds and suing you, then there is something to be concerned about. For your own good (again I have no problems with you marto74) I would recommend you do not stand up for him. It will not help you.

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Joshua Zipkin you have a habit of dealing in sock puppets here is a bit more. Here is some more evidence that you know how the SEO system works and that you used it to dox me and a few other people. Oh and another reference to hacking BCT there int he second line, also how I tried helping you SO you could get the more sales you actually claim you got. Which means we still have no refunds. Where are they? Hmmm.....

A reminder of how Joshua Zipkin operates. This is not the only instance where he makes this offer. There was another one in the group chat that was leaked. Just to show the level of shadiness Josh will stoop to.

[6/2/2014 9:04:50 PM] Joshua: can you hack bitcoin talk?
[6/2/2014 9:05:23 PM] Joshua: ill give 5k if you do
[6/2/2014 9:05:42 PM] Joshua: dont take it down
[6/2/2014 9:06:01 PM] Joshua:  just delete phineauses posts, he has ruined mynamed on google

[6/2/2014 9:15:24 PM] Joshua: a bank declined my application because they googled my name and "advanced mining technologies
[6/2/2014 9:15:57 PM] Joshua: im sure that if it was hacked on his posts were deleted the administration would not go through the whole restoration of the backup just for a few of his posts

Some more:

[6/4/2014 10:03:35 PM | Edited 10:03:46 PM] Joshua: I just need the right people, and i need to not be the one to manage them.
[6/4/2014 10:03:37 PM] Opieum2: Considering the digital alzhiemers people seem t have at times repeating the same stuff.
[6/4/2014 10:03:51 PM] Opieum2: This is where outsourcing works best lol
[6/4/2014 10:03:57 PM] Joshua: right
[6/4/2014 10:04:15 PM] Joshua: so the east europe thing works and i depating wiether or not to go there now or to china
[6/4/2014 10:05:04 PM] Joshua: china fascilities the product 10 day build, east europe fascilities the other business models (minerhelp.com, comparisson website) and customer support
[6/4/2014 10:05:56 PM] Joshua: im thinking china - then east europe, then back to philly
[6/4/2014 10:06:59 PM] Joshua: but i have to do this wifi thing immediately
[6/4/2014 10:07:10 PM] Opieum2: An idea here is get enough of a product run to sort out the current mess....with that you get the china thing started. It covers the current situaiton niceley make sure everyone here or most everyone walks away happy. Its one good way to start rebuilding credibility lost because of all the nonsense. Once thats done start regular in-stock sales. Then you can phase in the support with all that.
[6/4/2014 10:07:26 PM] Joshua: and i need to focus on new interesting products digital or physical which will appeal to new consumer segments - thats the one thing no one is doing
[6/4/2014 10:08:11 PM] Joshua: i dont think eveyrone will be happy
[6/4/2014 10:08:14 PM] Opieum2: Of course not
[6/4/2014 10:08:22 PM] Joshua: maybe understanding, but not happy
[6/4/2014 10:08:25 PM] Opieum2: Right
[6/4/2014 10:08:27 PM] Opieum2: and thats fine
[6/4/2014 10:08:27 PM] Joshua: like lets say we did a recall

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For anyone with issues and who felt they have been defrauded by Joshua Zipkin please send me a PM with the details of your situation (no personal information required) just the order number and the amount. If you have been in other ways defrauded or somehow illegally acted upon by him feel free to also put that information in the PM. I will reply with the information you will require to make sure action can be taken. If you are international, this matter can still apply you as well.