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November 22, 2015, 12:44:09 PM
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maybe YOU need to see what was written by a 'newbie' account - and then tell me to look into your history ...

when i see a newbie account talking the talk - i would like to see him / her walk the walk ... obviously you have - so my apologies also ...

i think that if the consensus is simply to allow any and all to have part ownership of parts of karma - then so be it ... i truly believe it will go no further than what it has done ...

im not here to fight over who has the bigger appendage than the other scryptminer - i dont care if yours is bigger or you hold more than i do or that you OWN the backend ( notice - OWN ) ... the argument you have put forward is of no consequence to the points i have made ...

in essence - the ownership of the entire backend PROVES that a takeover with complete control MEANS a more successful karma ... if you already have copyrights and business components - then how on earth do you suggest a decentralized way of operation when the CORE is centralized ...

just make it YOUR coin - and spread the karma ... i dont see an issue with that - nor do most ... especially if you already OWN 70% of the coins infrastructure ...

oh - and if a takeover is 'never going to happen' - i think its because it already has ...

maybe you should look into who i am - and what i have done ... just so you know that i am quite competent in differentiating a decentralized infrastructure and a centralized one ...

i have always been - and always will be - in favor of a hardfork AND in favor of a complete takeover of the coin and its infrastructure so that it can move forward ... whether you think i am a viable candidate is irrelevant ... if you hold that much of the infrastructure and others hold rights to components of the coin and logo etc ... then really look at how you intend on moving forward with a keen eye ...

a brand - yes agreed ... how? ... you tell me ... especially when the owners of all those copyrights and trademarks are not willing to give them up? ...

decentralization - go right ahead - i would like to see this happen on a centralized infrastructure like karma ...

its great that you pay for everything - its great that you and your team ( notice it was YOU that kept saying your team ) is taking care of business - its great that its all still kept alive and supported by you ... i have a similar situation - with one quite stark exception ... i OWN it all ...

there NEEDS to be a leadership - that is MY opinion ... obviously its not yours ... so be it ...

you may be talking to a person here that is willing to invest a great deal - or nothing at all ... but as long as you have this type of direction - then the coin will be directionless ...

i guess its up to you and the team you own now mate ... seriously ... i would back you totally - if i KNEW that what you were doing would work ... but i have no faith in this type of ( mis ) management ...

btw - if you ask me what i can bring to the table ... then the question should actually be - what is it karma can bring to the table FOR those that are looking at investing / coding / marketing / etc ... i need not prove anything - especially if my time - effort - and money is going to be invested into an infrastructure that is completely out of my control ...

i do hope that karma does get back ontrack - but i certainly hope it wont be in the headless direction its currently at mate ...

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I am a humble servant of Karma, I may own the infrastructure, some domains, some social pages, some copyrights but I don't see it as my OWN property. I do always said that I love the idea of Karma and thats why I choose to help out when it broke down last year.
I proposed already several Idea's with the faded Core Team but we never really got on the same level. Time fly's and now we are here again with the very same question than last year.

I do agree with you that leadership is required, but that is not to mistaken with ownership. I am running a Smart-Contract Lab and something we plan for next year is to build Autonomous Organisation. I believe if we would come up with a good concept for Karma that we could build such a system for it.
Basically a DAO is fully transparent to anyone. Any money that goes into it can be seen by every person. Members of the DAO will have shares of some sort depending on their position and activities towards the DAO. This is all governed by Smart-Contracts that will watch, execute and secure all Channels.

I will be happy to put down my ideas but as any new idea will require a Team of ppl that would help the cause our main issue is that we lack of those. I have not the capacity at this time to run a full project on Karma hence it is somewhere in the backlog. However time is passing and we already see technical
issues such as the Wallets.

Lets see if we can find common ground and interest and go from there.
My support is still unchanged

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November 22, 2015, 10:49:28 PM
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The clock is ticking to Deadline, But I mean something,

Crypto is going through a transition period where  is urgent to end life to abandoned projects and define their status to avoid losses and give more confidence and certainty, Far from what has been happening in the crypto scene, Although it is not something official is merely something with a value of thought, Conscience and not mandatory acceptance, It must bring a fairer opportunity for new stakeholders. Dev or Leadership have enough time to move the coin  to a new level or only leave it die, The rest only time will say......
Least coins to pay more attention and avoid problems that everyone already knows it would be something desirable for the majority. This is not a work of one person is a work of all, Bring  confidence and security especially prove that anothers coins  can run , so far it has only done for BTC.
So, see and to overlook the mistakes that have been committed by those with mere eagerness to profit have turned this into a business unfair model  is to give everyone shame. In the other hand, Think that the only fact that  altcoins will survive only if BTC goes to the moon could be considered, It's been 6 years since BTC was born as an experiment, Clone this experiment again and again indefinitely does not seem very logical or disinterested. Even metals have a limited number compared to what happened on crypto scene.

Because this applies to many others coins and as I dont want to be repetitive again and again to the same thing I reserve the right to quote this post to another thread as reference.

For now, There will not  give any opinion here until the deadline at least, If the things on here there will be significantly improved dont worry about this.


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November 22, 2015, 11:03:25 PM
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deadline?   What is the deadline? What is going to happen?

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November 22, 2015, 11:16:29 PM
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deadline?   What is the deadline? What is going to happen?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579973.msg13005554#msg13005554

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November 22, 2015, 11:58:22 PM
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The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.

Ok. and what is going to happen on February 18,2016 if a developer has not come forward?

Edit: I guess Karma will be added to this thread.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812247.0

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November 23, 2015, 09:06:39 PM
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The same that a wing drift boat on litoshiessealand is not a good thing, But considering that it was a important coin time ago, 3 months could be time enough to see if any type of magic could still happen with this one.

February 18,2016   - Deadline if it dont have any new dev yet.

Ok. and what is going to happen on February 18,2016 if a developer has not come forward?

Edit: I guess Karma will be added to this thread.    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812247.0

Yes, In fact it is listed on Waiting  for an answer already, But We will see.

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November 24, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
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Thank you very much.

 The posts you made after my request to post something if you still care about Karma, meant only one thing. Karma and our community is just resting. This is regardless of the content of your post.

Now to those who may have trouble synching their newly installed wallets. Kindly try to do the following:


in your wallet go to help | debug window | console and type in or copy and paste (ONE AT A TIME PLEASE):

addnode 104.243.34.106 add
addnode 109.221.15.102 add
addnode 122.57.103.228 add
addnode 135.0.78.42 add
addnode 148.251.126.241 add
addnode 167.114.27.241 add
addnode 173.58.213.135 add
addnode 178.66.92.83 add
addnode 188.165.2.147 add
addnode 188.226.194.191 add
addnode 192.95.29.153 add
addnode 204.11.237.233 add
addnode 212.198.247.212 add
addnode 212.93.100.223 add
addnode 24.102.90.154 add
addnode 24.15.13.38 add
addnode 37.5.13.140 add
addnode 5.101.96.124 add
addnode 62.221.89.173 add
addnode 68.35.218.223 add
addnode 72.42.100.141 add
addnode 75.119.248.120 add
addnode 76.95.178.229 add
addnode 80.215.138.166 add
addnode 83.104.61.47 add
addnode 84.117.113.234 add
addnode 86.235.25.22 add
addnode 89.11.228.207 add
addnode 91.64.54.9 add
addnode 95.55.189.156 add
addnode 98.94.49.78 add
addnode 99.113.26.253 add

And hopefully you will soon synch your Karma wallet.

By the way the posts also showed the inherent obstacles why Karma development would not be handled by a capable and willing developer of code. To those who don't have the time to search through pages and pages of our history, here they are:

1. Substantial amount of coins are now in the hands of several holders, see the richlist. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!rich
2. Progressive and sustained code development for Karma needs time, financial and emotional supports. Which we don't have.
3. Everyone of us, have other priorities, intents, purposes, capacities, willingness and pride that make smooth and continued cooperation to develop Karma difficult to gain.

While on the other hand on the technical side of things, we have:

1. limited exchanges and the major one is having difficulties of its own.
2. The coin is now pegged to an also fading coin.
3. The code is littered with bugs that newbies will find annoying to resolve. (Not easy to use)
4. Everything we maintain to keep the Karma system going, costs money.
5. There is no practical use of the coin at the moment.

I will not argue with anyone. Let us keep things real, attainable and agreeable.

Good Karma guys.

Always been here to help.
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November 24, 2015, 12:39:28 PM
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No team - no future. This is the truth.


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November 24, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
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1. Substantial amount of coins are now in the hands of several holders, see the richlist. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!rich



And what does that mean? For the second time you mention how many coins have some people ?! Do you want them or what? Why you not buy, the price is inexpensive? You once said that those with many coins should give billions to get some development ?? I have billions and will not give anything! Many mined and many bought. And not will sell to those who wait.         I don't like how you presents things, those who are behind karma. What exactly do you wants, all of you back there?


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1. Substantial amount of coins are now in the hands of several holders, see the richlist. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!rich



And what does that mean? For the second time you mention how many coins have some people ?! Do you want them or what? Why you not buy, the price is inexpensive? You once said that those with many coins should give billions to get some development ?? I have billions and will not give anything! Many mined and many bought. And not will sell to those who wait.         I don't like how you presents things, those who are behind karma. What exactly do you wants, all of you back there?


it means Karm has a distribution similar to Litecoin.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/#!rich

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Here are some Photovoltaic technologies.

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An alternator is an electrical generator that converts mechanical energy to electrical energy in the form of alternating current. For reasons of cost and simplicity, most alternators use a rotating magnetic field with a stationary armature. Occasionally, a linear alternator or a rotating armature with a stationary magnetic field is used. In principle, any AC electrical generator can be called an alternator, but usually the term refers to small rotating machines driven by automotive and other internal combustion engines. Large 50 or 60 Hz three phase alternators in power plants generate most of the world's electric power, which is distributed by electric power grids.

Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism predicting how a magnetic field will interact with an electric circuit to produce an electromotive force (EMF)—a phenomenon called electromagnetic induction. It is the fundamental operating principle of transformers, inductors, and many types of electrical motors, generators and solenoids.


Maxwell's equations are a set of partial differential equations that, together with the Lorentz force law, form the foundation of classical electrodynamics, classical optics, and electric circuits. These fields in turn underlie modern electrical and communications technologies. Maxwell's equations describe how electric and magnetic fields are generated and altered by each other and by charges and currents. They are named after the physicist and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, who published an early form of those equations between 1861 and 1862.


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interesting read ...

but what has that to do with karma? ...

or are you implying building some of these systems will save money on mining karma Wink ...

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1. Substantial amount of coins are now in the hands of several holders, see the richlist. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!rich



And what does that mean? For the second time you mention how many coins have some people ?! Do you want them or what? Why you not buy, the price is inexpensive? You once said that those with many coins should give billions to get some development ?? I have billions and will not give anything! Many mined and many bought. And not will sell to those who wait.         I don't like how you presents things, those who are behind karma. What exactly do you wants, all of you back there?


it means Karm has a distribution similar to Litecoin.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ltc/#!rich

litecoins reward per block is NOTHING like karma ... so its not a real comparison ...

#crysx

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November 29, 2015, 10:07:04 AM
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litecoins reward per block is NOTHING like karma ... so its not a real comparison ...

#crysx

what does block reward have to do with distribution? absolutely nothing when the coins are being mined and then dumped on exchanges to be sold.


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November 29, 2015, 10:43:51 AM
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litecoins reward per block is NOTHING like karma ... so its not a real comparison ...

#crysx

what does block reward have to do with distribution? absolutely nothing when the coins are being mined and then dumped on exchanges to be sold.



quite a bit actually ...

the capacity for a coin to be maintained has a number of things attached ... one of those things is amount ...

a coin - say like sia for instance - has many millions of coins that get mined and dumped - but many millions more coming into play ... same with karma ...

ltc on the other hand has a diminishing number and few coins per block mined at any one time - unlike karma - which allows the volume and pricing ( against btc ) to maintain a better liquidity ... this means LESS dumping than coins like karma ...

distribution is a very poor indicator of how a coin is performing in the community anyway ... its an important indicator for access of a coin - but not liquidity ...

so when mining karma - its a lot easier to obtain than ltc ... which makes for higher distribution ( mostly ) but not a high value ...

so block reward has quite an impact when its easy to mine - then dump ... as opposed to not so easy to mine and dump ... it creates a higher level of value to the coin ...

if we look at sia again ... the value of the coin is minute - BUT - the USE of the coin is enormous when the project gets its foothold in the storage industry ( as you need to spend sia to get storage ) ...

karma has very little use in anything else but trade at the moment ... so block value is important in that respect ... the higher the block value - the higher the distribution - the lower the value ... the lower block value - the lower distribution - the higher the value ...

thats all im saying ...

karma has a lot of coin in a lot of hands that is doing nothing more than bagholding at the moment ... i know - im one ...

show me some real use for the coin - and ill use it in the best way i can ... like i mentioned earlier in the thread - the direction of karma is wayward and not focused at the moment - which means no matter what statistics anyone show regarding karma - it is moot if we are all holding for something to happen and nothing is actually happening ...

i would like to see something better than this current status with the coin - but i cant see it all happening without focused direction ...

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December 04, 2015, 06:41:36 PM
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Just added and finally have a connection, thanks for the nodes.

Thank you very much.

 The posts you made after my request to post something if you still care about Karma, meant only one thing. Karma and our community is just resting. This is regardless of the content of your post.

Now to those who may have trouble synching their newly installed wallets. Kindly try to do the following:


in your wallet go to help | debug window | console and type in or copy and paste (ONE AT A TIME PLEASE):

addnode 104.243.34.106 add
addnode 109.221.15.102 add
addnode 122.57.103.228 add
addnode 135.0.78.42 add
addnode 148.251.126.241 add
addnode 167.114.27.241 add
addnode 173.58.213.135 add
addnode 178.66.92.83 add
addnode 188.165.2.147 add
addnode 188.226.194.191 add
addnode 192.95.29.153 add
addnode 204.11.237.233 add
addnode 212.198.247.212 add
addnode 212.93.100.223 add
addnode 24.102.90.154 add
addnode 24.15.13.38 add
addnode 37.5.13.140 add
addnode 5.101.96.124 add
addnode 62.221.89.173 add
addnode 68.35.218.223 add
addnode 72.42.100.141 add
addnode 75.119.248.120 add
addnode 76.95.178.229 add
addnode 80.215.138.166 add
addnode 83.104.61.47 add
addnode 84.117.113.234 add
addnode 86.235.25.22 add
addnode 89.11.228.207 add
addnode 91.64.54.9 add
addnode 95.55.189.156 add
addnode 98.94.49.78 add
addnode 99.113.26.253 add

And hopefully you will soon synch your Karma wallet.

By the way the posts also showed the inherent obstacles why Karma development would not be handled by a capable and willing developer of code. To those who don't have the time to search through pages and pages of our history, here they are:

1. Substantial amount of coins are now in the hands of several holders, see the richlist. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!rich
2. Progressive and sustained code development for Karma needs time, financial and emotional supports. Which we don't have.
3. Everyone of us, have other priorities, intents, purposes, capacities, willingness and pride that make smooth and continued cooperation to develop Karma difficult to gain.

While on the other hand on the technical side of things, we have:

1. limited exchanges and the major one is having difficulties of its own.
2. The coin is now pegged to an also fading coin.
3. The code is littered with bugs that newbies will find annoying to resolve. (Not easy to use)
4. Everything we maintain to keep the Karma system going, costs money.
5. There is no practical use of the coin at the moment.

I will not argue with anyone. Let us keep things real, attainable and agreeable.

Good Karma guys.

Always been here to help.
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to anyone having issues for now, you can find the list of active notes on the blockchain https://chainz.cryptoid.info/karm/#!network

click on node list on "node list" of the karma real client =  /Satoshi:0.8.6.5/

Code:
addnode=136.243.76.100
addnode=148.251.126.241
addnode=188.165.2.147
addnode=188.226.194.191
addnode=188.27.250.117
addnode=204.11.237.233
addnode=24.15.13.38
addnode=24.28.92.13
addnode=45.53.73.40
addnode=45.53.75.22
addnode=5.101.96.124
addnode=50.50.146.237
addnode=50.50.147.7
addnode=50.50.149.207
addnode=50.50.150.237
addnode=50.50.152.163
addnode=50.50.154.43
addnode=50.50.156.141
addnode=50.50.157.118
addnode=50.50.157.219
addnode=50.50.157.60
addnode=50.50.157.78
addnode=50.50.158.197
addnode=50.50.159.161
addnode=50.50.159.64
addnode=72.42.100.141
addnode=73.9.181.217
addnode=74.47.43.143
addnode=76.84.246.71
addnode=76.95.178.229
addnode=84.234.52.190
addnode=89.11.186.232
addnode=89.11.228.207
addnode=96.58.166.85


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December 05, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
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Dev here? Or the coin is dead? No strong buy support. Worth buying now?
I went ahead and mined a few of these about a week ago but ended up dumping them as it doesn't appear as though anything is happening with this coin currently.

*For future reference, if a coin has this little to no buy support, there's more than likely a pretty good reason for it.

Such a shame. This coin was doing so well maybe a year ago. It attracted an large investor who was willing to buy the Karma powered search engine.
Then all of a sudden all development died and the coin went downhill from there

It is a great shame, Karma was buzzing with a bunch of ideas a year ago, where did it go.

lack of support bates ...

thats what happens unfortunately when the original dev just fades into the background - and no major takeover is done ...

its still alive obviously - with community support ... but no real development and 'fixing' of code ...

pity - was a great idea ...

#crysx

True! Karma was a awesome project, a through the time I offered help but no takers.

You offer has always been appreciated and not forgotten. but if i recall you have offered to support services that scryptminer has already in place.

Just want to explain the reason why. The moment scryptminer would announce he can't support it anymore i would have contacted you.

it just wasnt necessary to have two services offering services to our user base at this time. that is all.

i've always been appreciative of your offers. i believe i have told you that if you offer any other services then i would stick it up on the main post and let people know.

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You offer has always been appreciated and not forgotten. but if i recall you have offered to support services that scryptminer has already in place.

Just want to explain the reason why. The moment scryptminer would announce he can't support it anymore i would have contacted you.

it just wasnt necessary to have two services offering services to our user base at this time. that is all.

i've always been appreciative of your offers. i believe i have told you that if you offer any other services then i would stick it up on the main post and let people know.



Thanks. Ah ok no problem, sometimes it is good to have multiple instances of services running to decentralise things but like you say if the customer base is low no need really.

Also quite awhile back I contacted you to ask if you would like access to cryptogiveaways.org alpha and you agreed, the alpha actually opens tomorrow (6th Dec)  and I will PM you login details if your still interested.

You have and don't think I was being off just don't want to see such a great crypto disappear, when I have some other projects finished I'm going to be dedicating time to KARMA and hope we all can work together and make KARMA strong again

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East is speaking true words, the issue is that even after one year no one is interested in doing something with Karma, or agreeing on a direction. The problem is the lack of interest and support. I sponsor / run the Karma website/forum and did also run a dedicated block-explorer.
I see plenty ppl complaining and discussion the future or past of Karma, instead if you care why not propose something? I got a few idea's how to get Karma back on track and build something on top of it. However that would requires a few dedicated ppl who can organise themselves
and support the cause. We can easy build a KARMA DAO (Decentralised Autonomous Organisation) where the governance is done by Smart-Contracts. It would take care of all financials without a single person having access to it. It would be complete transparent to everyone and everyone who want to contribute could earn something. As I said, I got a few ideas how to do that and I am even willing to help out but that only works if there is a real interest and ppl who are willing to sponsor their skills and time.

Let me know who got interest and in what capacity

Best,
Karma Admin aka scryptminer

seriously? ...

so all ive said is primarily 'waffle' and didnt actually TELL you what was required and what im willing to do? ...

ok - when YOU get serious about it - then i WILL look at it much more seriously also ...

you use the words dedicated and interested and organize - yet look over those that are willing to take the time to write not only thoughts - but place the groundwork on what NEEDS to be done in order to get this coin back up ...

seriously scryptminer - if you are anything that you say you are - you would have taken what i have written and accepted the fact that without a leader - or at least leadership - this coin and its infrastructure are doomed ... and i dont mean a community group to make decisions - i mean a person or a small team to take the 'bull by its horns' and tackle it head on ... to take ownership of the coin and the infrastructure ... yes a proper takeover ...

i have the experience and the know how to stabilize the entire backend - as well as take on the infratstructure as a whole ... i also have the team that would be required to bring such a coin back up - as long as they are willing to eat into more of their time for such a project ...

yes - i mean a complete takeover ... but i sure hell wouldnt take on a project like this and 'dedicate' my time effort and money to 'organize' and take it more 'seriously' if i didnt have control of the reins of the coin and infrastructure ... what you are asking is simply - come and show how much time and effort and money you can put in - THEN ill think about building a team to work on the coin ... even then - you are saying that its going to be a decentralized DECISION making process? ... really? ...

it is this reason the 'coin' is in the state of affairs it is in - and the same reason that there a re not many people willing to absorb the costs of such a taking ...

ownership - leadership - takeover ... they are all one and the same when referring to this coin ...

#crysx

i think you are misunderstanding the points that east and scryptminer have tried to get across.

main east points is that a take over is unnecessary as the people controlling the accounts ( me and East) have always been open to take the direction where ever the community wants, but it has to be a consensus movement, a majority of the active people voicing their suggestion and acceptance on what changes we should endorse.

What scryptminer is trying to say is that a simple take over with few people claiming to take over is unnecessary and will bring more un necessary drama. Cryptminer also trying to share his experience that the reason why the focus should be focused there for now is because

1. We (core team) we will support anything that the majority here will want (granted that we will have to evaluate that there is no hidden agenda from those offering to help)
2. There has always been people hyped up to offer tons of opinions but for over a year no one has shown any sign that they would dedicate their time and effort to actually step up and be ready to put actual work. be ready to lead, be ready to do tasks that other need (ie: scryptminer and Little duke projects)

Mainly the second point. So far this beloved coin of ours has been able to stay afloat due to empathy from the community, but in reality has not shown any serious paths that would bring an actual usability to this coin other then the current features that other +1000s coins offer as well.

Sure we can welcome other people to help update the code and bring the most current coin features that would move us from the typical +1000s coins into the +100s range , but with out proper unique usability then this coin will most likely be worthy of the empathy of the dedicated ones who have been trying to keep it afloat.

Yes , eventually the code needs to be updated to fix the magic keys so we wont have network conflicts, possibly rethink the distribution, update to most current stable bitcoin source , implement any features from other coins etc...

Sure, most of this will improve the network to better suit the services and user experience. but there lies our real problem. we don't have any real services that are unique to only karma coin. Services that show a good sign that will bring usability to Karma block chain.

If the main focus is to implement the newest coin feature on demand right now , this will mostly only prompt a short hype and then back to the same stall effect right now.

So hence or real problem is the lack of man power to actually put the work. We have constantly have made this public. We have offered people to come aboard telegram /forum to get active and help brain storm. Scyptminer and TheLittleDuke have offered the lead on their project as long as some people step up and help them with their work.

Thankfully scryptminer is still supporting and is still trying to get people to understand that he has some ideas but he would need other to get involved.

I have always love to see this coin blossom but from experience being part of it is that it nothing speaks louder then actual work. Proof of man work
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December 05, 2015, 09:26:22 PM
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You offer has always been appreciated and not forgotten. but if i recall you have offered to support services that scryptminer has already in place.

Just want to explain the reason why. The moment scryptminer would announce he can't support it anymore i would have contacted you.

it just wasnt necessary to have two services offering services to our user base at this time. that is all.

i've always been appreciative of your offers. i believe i have told you that if you offer any other services then i would stick it up on the main post and let people know.



Thanks. Ah ok no problem, sometimes it is good to have multiple instances of services running to decentralise things but like you say if the customer base is low no need really.

Also quite awhile back I contacted you to ask if you would like access to cryptogiveaways.org alpha and you agreed, the alpha actually opens tomorrow (6th Dec)  and I will PM you login details if your still interested.

You have and don't think I was being off just don't want to see such a great crypto disappear, when I have some other projects finished I'm going to be dedicating time to KARMA and hope we all can work together and make KARMA strong again

yeah , just miss communication. even now i just wanted to be clear why i said then "thanks but lets see how it goes" but if you want to set up any service your still more then welcome. i didnt mean to discourage you but was putting my private input of hey lets see if karma will fight to move forwards before you invest time in it. i guess i should have been more clearer. it was a personal opinion and in no way would indicate the voice of the "core" team.

this goes out to anyone out there, if you think of us as overloads then you have not really gotten to know us. We are only cautious of not promoting any thing blindly like we did previously through the social media channels we control. but if you want to launch a service that a user can chose to use or not, i dont see how we could possible censor it..

i think i should clarify who the Core team is now. since i always cringe when people address us as such or i feel i have to use that term to show who i speak for. there are no current real 24/7 coin devs. for some time, if we needed anything i would seek out to my network of what i considered honest devs and ask them to help and most of the time either the (than) 10 active people of the team have been pretty much payed for it.  including and a shot out to the ones that also donated for them as well. Unfortunately any real devs that i had the pleasure to discuss have long move to bitcoin projects and other personal involvements.

slowly everyone has been less and less active due to personal real life and the lack of real services(well precisely the lack of dedication to help even those who might have a plan but need others to help out)

At this moment it is Me and East who control the passwords to the accounts. Not sure if this is clear but in no way we have an authoritarian perspective on how things should be done here. We are not so eager to share access to the people who just promise action but have no real , detailed plans of their proposition. We will gladly update the topics and share on social accounts once we feel it a real effort and not sign of something that can close shop tomorrow.

Scryptminer is not considered core team as of now, but they are part of the "consulting team" and frankly they have done most of the work lately and have paid said services themselves.

i guess my point , which has alway been of mine, is that perhaps people need to stop looking at the Core team and expect things to just happen. We're always been open about what we are capable of. Who ever says a dev leads the coin to success then they are probably comparing it to a pump and dump success..

Additionally this is an open source so technically we have no power to stop anyone nor would i want that power. All we have is that we have been with karma for so long and we just want to take tons of measures to avoid more drama and just move forwards.

i have no objection if you want to launch a service to sell flip flops and want to implement karma in it, i would have objection if you want to fork karma and modify it to better serve your agenda rather than focus to modify it for the greater of all.


Hence, as i told LittleDuke, anyone is more then welcome to build anything and any direction they want. but if your intention is to change the source code , then be prepared to provide detailed specification of why , how and how would you get the community to vote on it fairly.

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