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[smooth]

Yes, congats, you have that right, I choose to not screen shot my XMR balance

No one is obsessing, just wondering about your credibility

I now no longer own any and do not plan to in the future

But then I never expect pump-dumper altcoin speculator whales to have any credibility, so I can't say I'm surprised or even care particularly.

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[vokain]

Otoh, did you dump because you are afraid your association with Monero might accelerate DASH's price decline?

[BlockaFett]

I've been a large and long term holder of Monero up until this week, approx this time last year my XMR holdings were worth $60,000 and I've sold none until now, why did I decide to sell - because I took a good long look at the coin, it's development and potential as far as I could see it and decided that it was no longer something that I wished to support.

Why did I take a fresh look at it, because among other coins that I back is DASH and on the BCT DASH thread there is constant trolling by Monero fans and the dev smooth, just check how many posts he's made there today alone, dozens and dozens and dozens, why is this happening - I assume to make the thread unreadable and spread FUD, well it does this but it also creates a very poor image of crypto in general and Monero in particular, it is going out of one's way to try and antagonize everyone who sees it.

So I am no longer prepared to back a coin that has a main dev act in such a toxic way, I now no longer own any and do not plan to in the future, those remaining I wish you well with it but my decision to sell three days ago was primarily a business one, I do not see a bright future for this coin as things are atm I'm sorry to say.

 

Just to say that I think Otoh is doing you a favor by saying this.  If I was hedged with XMR and a competitor I would be furious to see my devs posting on competitors threads 100s of times a week for any reason.  

The core-devs who are doing this are like a wrecking ball.  If serious Devs had enough concern to believe a competitor is a scam, they would handle it carefully like do a proper write-up backed by research and then just present it so the info was out there for people to refer to and make a decision.  Because otherwise people might just see it as a competitor wanting to put-down the competition if their accusations are not backed up and able to be tested or they can't present their argument when asked about it in a cogent fashion.  

What we have here is literally hundreds of posts per week from the XMR core devs and "instatrolls"  posting the *same* accusations again and again and again and again on various competitor threads and then trying to beat each conversation into submission to say that Dash is a scam with XMR always being flawless and 'the most fair coin in the world' and other dramatic portrayals that are paper thin when faced by a Dev posting for the 700th time on your thread saying you are a greedy investor investing in a scam.  Like Otoh is saying this create a bad image, if XMR is such an investment for smart people, how come you don't get this?  

[BlockaFett]

Let me see if I have this right.  Otoh is still hiding his xmr balance in screen shot supposedly showing a trade history after he sold all his xmr.

Yes, congats, you have that right, I choose to not screen shot my XMR balance, I wouldn't obsess about it if I was you, fact being that I sold 36,455 XMR = 82 BTC worth three days ago, I guess that I could buy 40,000 or more back now but I'd rather leave this whole toxicity behind tbh so won't bother most likely.

Maybe I still have a few 100k moneros that need dumping more stealthfully, I don't though thank goodness, but if I did that's only my business.

As I no longer have any interest in this coin and the posters here ( see below   ) I don't plan to follow this thread any more, so bye

Lol Otoh you came into the hornets nest and offered free advice...

My suggestion for new XMR slogan:

Welcome to Monero - You've been Trolled!™

[vokain]

Otoh, you saved me from a pyramid scheme and I've been eternally grateful for that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720940.msg8223521;topicseen#msg8223521

[smooth]

If I was hedged with XMR and a competitor I would be furious to see my devs posting on competitors threads

Yes that's obvious that he is more interested in his main position doing well than his tiny hedge, so obviously he would not be happy about anyone criticizing his main position, especially if those criticisms are valid.

The rest is noise and attempted manipulation or both.

[BlockaFett]

If I was hedged with XMR and a competitor I would be furious to see my devs posting on competitors threads

Yes that's obvious that he is more interested in his main position doing well than his tiny hedge, so obviously he would not be happy about anyone criticizing his main position, especially if those criticisms are valid.

The rest is noise and attempted manipulation or both.

It's because it's repeated 1000 times Smooth.  That insults the intelligence of the people you are trying to communicate with, and seeing as you are a Core Dev it makes people question why you are doing it.  This is a fact or go and get some PR / marketing advice.

[smooth]

If I was hedged with XMR and a competitor I would be furious to see my devs posting on competitors threads

Yes that's obvious that he is more interested in his main position doing well than his tiny hedge, so obviously he would not be happy about anyone criticizing his main position, especially if those criticisms are valid.

The rest is noise and attempted manipulation or both.

It's because it's repeated 1000 times Smooth.  That insults the intelligence of the people you are trying to communicate with, and seeing as you are a Core Dev it makes people question why you are doing it.  This is a fact or go and get some PR / marketing advice.

FYI, I rarely post on the dash thread. The two occasions I can think of, I was invited by some member of the Dash community who saw fit to attack me by name there. The first was Evan's "buy out" of dashcoin (the real, cryptonote, dashcoin), after I offered some support for the dashcoin community on their own thread. The second was when I provided the requested (and 100% correct) evidence for the Dash instamine on the coinmarketcap thread.

Stop attacking your critics for posting correct information and you will get less negative hostile shit on your thread. That community over there is a vile cult. Deep down you know it too.

[DaveyJones]

Seriously guys stop that, if you wanna talk about Otoh make a thread for that and invite him.... this is about Monero and NOT Post after Post after Post what Otoh did.

@BlockaFett you are pretty vocal for a guy that said he didnt care anymore a few days ago.

[Otoh]

Seriously guys stop that, if you wanna talk about Otoh make a thread for that and invite him.... this is about Monero and NOT Post after Post after Post what Otoh did.

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FYI, I rarely post on the dash thread...

LMFAO, actually posts more than most everyone else combined

in the last 24 hours, I'd count them but I need to sleep now, it has been constant, like every other post nearly, wtf, gal dood

[BlockaFett]

If I was hedged with XMR and a competitor I would be furious to see my devs posting on competitors threads

Yes that's obvious that he is more interested in his main position doing well than his tiny hedge, so obviously he would not be happy about anyone criticizing his main position, especially if those criticisms are valid.

The rest is noise and attempted manipulation or both.

It's because it's repeated 1000 times Smooth.  That insults the intelligence of the people you are trying to communicate with, and seeing as you are a Core Dev it makes people question why you are doing it.  This is a fact or go and get some PR / marketing advice.

FYI, I rarely post on the dash thread. The two occasions I can think of, I was invited by some member of the Dash community who saw fit to attack me by name there. The first was Evan's "buy out" of dashcoin (the real, cryptonote, dashcoin), after I offered some support for the dashcoin community on their own thread. The second was when I provided the requested (and 100% correct) evidence for the Dash instamine on the coinmarketcap thread.

Stop attacking your critics for posting correct information and you will get less negative hostile shit on your thread. That community over there is a vile cult. Deep down you know it too.

Not sure why you only remember 2 times you posted on the Dash thread because I see you there every day and even  4 weeks ago you were named one of the top trolls on the Dash thread with 103 posts in the previous 4 weeks.

Troll Brigade  
qwizzie   222
AdamWhite   217
iCEBREAKER   169
sangoku   109
qvan   103
smooth   94
wpalczynski   81
r4vani   80
Total   1075

As we speak, you and a bunch of Monero investors are trying to bum-rush the CoinMarketCap thread and bully the poor admin Gliss to change his site's ratings system to comply with Monero's interpretation of which coins they should be warning investors about - and you have posted there ~50 times there in the last few days (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199685.4200).  

Did you think about what it looks like to potential Monero investors to see this in action all around BCT, and then see you blatantly lie like saying you only posted on the Dash thread...twice?  

Take some time off from your role as Investor Relations and do us all a favor please Smooth

[iCEBREAKER]

[bitching, pouting, and self-aggrandizement]

Otoh, it was me mostly whose orders you sold into. I earnestly think that smooth and everyone here, while sometimes perceived as vitriolic, only have the best of intentions behind the message they have.

Thank you for giving those rage-dumped XMR a good home.  I'm sure they will be happy being hled in your wallet for a long time.

It's a good thing Otoh is so hyper-sensitive to criticism of his pet gold donkey!

It was nice of him to puke up the rest of his Monero stash, just like I told him to.   

[smooth]

"top trolls on the Dash thread"

This is exactly what I mean about the vile, hate-filled attitude of the Dash community. You label anyone who criticizes you as a "troll" create Troll Brigade lists, create a fake coin ANN about "Trollero" etc.

with 103 posts in the previous 4 weeks.

I will engage in discussions there, in particular the two occasions I mentioned. If you take a look at when I posted there you will see this is true.

As we speak, you and a bunch of Monero investors are trying to bum-rush the CoinMarketCap thread

Actually we, and a bunch of unrelated people having nothing to do with Monero but also opposed to instamines, think that coins such as dash that mined 500k coins in a bit over an hour and 2m coins in 30 hours, after a poorly-defined launch date, should be identified as such. It doesn't seem to me it makes much difference whether a huge stash of coins is spit out immediately before launch (premine) or immediately after (instamine). Both have an enormously front-loaded distribution.

like every other post nearly, wtf, gal dood

I just looked. In the past 10 pages of the thread, my post count is.....are you ready for it? Zero.

There were, however, a few dozen quotes or mentions of me there, nearly all attacks. There was also a nice little subthread about how many posts were being deleted by forum mods likely for violating the forum rules against trolling and insults. None of those were mine either.

That's what you're involved with. Clean your own house sir.

[Otoh]

[bitching, pouting, and self-aggrandizement]

Otoh, it was me mostly whose orders you sold into. I earnestly think that smooth and everyone here, while sometimes perceived as vitriolic, only have the best of intentions behind the message they have.

Thank you for giving those rage-dumped XMR a good home.  I'm sure they will be happy being hled in your wallet for a long time.

It's a good thing Otoh is so hyper-sensitive to criticism of his pet gold donkey!

It was nice of him to puke up the rest of his Monero stash, just like I told him to.  

vokain, here is iCEBREAKER using you to attack me, honestly please let everyone know how you feel about that, obviously I see him for the toxic cunt that he is, but as you are basically pro monero and anti DASH I would be interested to see if you condoned his poisonous hate campaign or dissociate yourself from such blatant fuckery as what he is trying to do is not about the coins or their merits at all it's just pure shit stiring, personal vendetta,  and worse.

[smooth]

vokain, here is iCEBREAKER using you to attack me, honestly please let everyone know how you feel about that, obviously I see him for the toxic cunt that he is, but as you are basically pro monero and anti DASH I would be interested to see if you condoned his poisonous hate campaign or dissociate yourself from such blatant fuckery as what he is trying to do is not about the coins or their merits at all it's just pure shit stiring and worse.

Who looks toxic hate filled here?

[Hueristic]

Inspired by Otoh's brave example, I also have decided to sell all my XMR. I use the Dark Theme on Poloniex because I'm cool. As you can see, this is me selling everything. As you can see from the screenshot I'm selling my 192382374923412.203874 XMR for 384782064260.56750488 BTC (around $86.19 trillion). Hopefully the market can sustain this dump.



In future I look forward to teleporting you all to my private island on the planet Neptune, where we can fly our hovercars around and laugh about the good ol' days.

Edit: fixed for the luigis

EPIC!

https://youtu.be/ZG_k5CSYKhg

[Jeff8247]

You do smooth. Hows about you and XMR followers keep out of the DASH thread and the DASH followers keep out of the XMR thread?

Its really fucking simple.

[Otoh]

vokain, here is iCEBREAKER using you to attack me, honestly please let everyone know how you feel about that, obviously I see him for the toxic cunt that he is, but as you are basically pro monero and anti DASH I would be interested to see if you condoned his poisonous hate campaign or dissociate yourself from such blatant fuckery as what he is trying to do is not about the coins or their merits at all it's just pure shit stiring and worse.

Who looks toxic hate filled here?

just calling it out as it is, myself I'm unmoved, it's nasty shit but really not my problem, especially not any more, vokain may not like being dragged in to pillorying me though as I actually consider him a friend and hope that he does me too.

[smooth]

You do smooth. Hows about you and XMR followers keep out of the DASH thread and the DASH followers keep out of the XMR thread?

How about we have relevant discussions on the relevant thread.

They're public threads. If you don't like it, go bury your instamine, centralized masternodes and reference nodes, whistle-blowing former core devs, and other dirty laundry in your walled garden forum where you can discuss day trading and recruiting investors undisturbed.

[iCEBREAKER]

vokain, here is iCEBREAKER using you to attack me, honestly please let everyone know how you feel about that, obviously I see him for the toxic cunt that he is, but as you are basically pro monero and anti DASH I would be interested to see if you condoned his poisonous hate campaign or dissociate yourself from such blatant fuckery as what he is trying to do is not about the coins or their merits at all it's just pure shit stiring and worse.

Who looks toxic hate filled here?

Heh, I love people who go mental when you chastise them for being hyper-sensitive.   

But I'm not satisfied until Otoh pukes up the rest.  I want to see a balance of zero, and if he takes the price back under 0.001 that's great too.

DashHoles don't deserve to own a single precious Monero.