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April 03, 2015, 06:52:24 PM
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I am no Poloniex user. I dont understand what happened in aminorexs case. Please explain.
I had planed to deposit BTC on Poloniex soon, to buy XMR obvious.


Or in other words, is Poloniex still the best and most recommend exchanger to buy our coin?

I have found Poloniex to be reliable and helpful, but have never found myself in the situation aminorex described. Just make sure to send to the right address and include the proper payment ID.
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April 03, 2015, 07:23:23 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy


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April 03, 2015, 07:25:02 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct
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April 03, 2015, 07:25:08 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

I believe they were referring to the Polo TrollBox BCX wannabe.

Smooth beat me to it by 6 seconds.

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April 03, 2015, 08:42:31 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct

This is ancient history, but I happened to be reading the Poloniex trollbox when Polo-BCX made some kind of vague threat and was challenged to prove he was Bitcointalk-BitcoinEXpress. "BitcoinEXpress" then posted to the XMR trolling thread, establishing his identity, and then quickly deleted that post. (I saw the post when it first appeared, satisfying the Poloniex trolls, and then noted that it was gone). Poloniex was soon thereafter DDOS'd and some of us speculated that BCX was thereby in legal jeopardy as the prime suspect for a cyber-crime. My impression was that Polo-BCX since then has taken pains to create the impression that he was not identical to BitcoinEXpress.

Obviously, nicks can be sold and it's hard to know what has happened since then, but I'm quite sure that at the time of the DDOS, Polo-BCX was BitcoinEXpress.
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April 03, 2015, 08:48:46 PM
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You guys saw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008146.0? It's "Bytecoin website and roadmap release (including CryptoNote protocol updates)". I think it's pretty good and worth to be discussed. Is there any Monero-related or CN-related discussion about this, anywhere on BCT or elsewhere?

Can the Monero- or CryptoNote- or even the whole Crypto Currency-ecosystem benefit from this development effort?
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April 03, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct

This is ancient history, but I happened to be reading the Poloniex trollbox when Polo-BCX made some kind of vague threat and was challenged to prove he was Bitcointalk-BitcoinEXpress. "BitcoinEXpress" then posted to the XMR trolling thread, establishing his identity, and then quickly deleted that post. (I saw the post when it first appeared, satisfying the Poloniex trolls, and then noted that it was gone). Poloniex was soon thereafter DDOS'd and some of us speculated that BCX was thereby in legal jeopardy as the prime suspect for a cyber-crime. My impression was that Polo-BCX since then has taken pains to create the impression that he was not identical to BitcoinEXpress.

Obviously, nicks can be sold and it's hard to know what has happened since then, but I'm quite sure that at the time of the DDOS, Polo-BCX was BitcoinEXpress.

That was "bitcoinexpress" on the toolbox. Different from BCX on trollbox.

http://www.polonibox.com/?username=bitcoinexpress

Looks like that user never reappeared on the toolbox after threatening to shut down polo shortly before polo in fact went down.
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April 03, 2015, 08:55:10 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct

This is ancient history, but I happened to be reading the Poloniex trollbox when Polo-BCX made some kind of vague threat and was challenged to prove he was Bitcointalk-BitcoinEXpress. "BitcoinEXpress" then posted to the XMR trolling thread, establishing his identity, and then quickly deleted that post. (I saw the post when it first appeared, satisfying the Poloniex trolls, and then noted that it was gone). Poloniex was soon thereafter DDOS'd and some of us speculated that BCX was thereby in legal jeopardy as the prime suspect for a cyber-crime. My impression was that Polo-BCX since then has taken pains to create the impression that he was not identical to BitcoinEXpress.

Obviously, nicks can be sold and it's hard to know what has happened since then, but I'm quite sure that at the time of the DDOS, Polo-BCX was BitcoinEXpress.

That was "bitcoinexpress" on the toolbox. Different from BCX on trollbox.

http://www.polonibox.com/?username=bitcoinexpress

Looks like that user never reappeared on the toolbox after threatening to shut down polo shortly before polo in fact went down.

LMFAO @ toolbox...
first one i thought was a typo which made it even funnier when i got to the second one

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April 03, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
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You guys saw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008146.0? It's "Bytecoin website and roadmap release (including CryptoNote protocol updates)". I think it's pretty good and worth to be discussed. Is there any Monero-related or CN-related discussion about this, anywhere on BCT or elsewhere?

Can the Monero- or CryptoNote- or even the whole Crypto Currency-ecosystem benefit from this development effort?


As soon as I see the first load of horse crap right at the start of the O.P. in that thread ("... the 1001st day..." of BS-coin), I am completely turned-off to anything else regarding that coin.

It has been well-established that their claim of "since 2012" is complete and utter bullshit.

I avoid it due to the simple fact that I hate stupid stuff.
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April 03, 2015, 09:00:56 PM
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5w00p: Everybody shares your opinion about ByteCoin. But code talks. I am no software developer, so I dont understand & know the code bases of Monero and Bytecoin.

So I ask, if maybe something good can come out of this. Because some of the announced features undoubtedly look promising.
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April 03, 2015, 09:02:38 PM
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5w00p: Everybody shares your opinion about ByteCoin. But code talks. I am no software developer, so I dont understand & know the code bases of Monero and Bytecoin.

So I ask, if maybe something good can come out of this.

Have they actually done any of it?  It was released on April Fools so who knows what to make of it.

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April 03, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
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5w00p: Everybody shares your opinion about ByteCoin. But code talks. I am no software developer, so I dont understand & know the code bases of Monero and Bytecoin.

So I ask, if maybe something good can come out of this.

Have they actually done any of it?  It was released on April Fools so who knows what to make of it.

There been no commits on their github since September 15.

https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/commits/master

What they are doing behind closed doors we obviously don't know, but it is certainly not an open transparent project. That is strike four (first three by being lying scammers).
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April 03, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
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XMR and Poloniex are a nice couple and some a troll, this BCX/primer- whatever don't like it.

I don't think primer is BCX.  Primer is petty, frothy, and rabid.

BCX doesn't roll like that.  He has the grandiose, unmistakable class and puckish humor of an authentic BCT elder.  Concern trolling over such a minute issue isn't at all his style.

Primer is just a lame alt-kiddie not fit to shine, much less fill, BCX's huge assclown shoes.   Cheesy

"BCX" on polo trollbox is not the same as "BitcoinEXpress" on btct

This is ancient history, but I happened to be reading the Poloniex trollbox when Polo-BCX made some kind of vague threat and was challenged to prove he was Bitcointalk-BitcoinEXpress. "BitcoinEXpress" then posted to the XMR trolling thread, establishing his identity, and then quickly deleted that post. (I saw the post when it first appeared, satisfying the Poloniex trolls, and then noted that it was gone). Poloniex was soon thereafter DDOS'd and some of us speculated that BCX was thereby in legal jeopardy as the prime suspect for a cyber-crime. My impression was that Polo-BCX since then has taken pains to create the impression that he was not identical to BitcoinEXpress.

Obviously, nicks can be sold and it's hard to know what has happened since then, but I'm quite sure that at the time of the DDOS, Polo-BCX was BitcoinEXpress.

That was "bitcoinexpress" on the toolbox. Different from BCX on trollbox.

http://www.polonibox.com/?username=bitcoinexpress

Looks like that user never reappeared on the toolbox after threatening to shut down polo shortly before polo in fact went down.



That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
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April 03, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
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I feel like they will release something, because:

- they completely redone the webpage (with GUI client screenshots)
- their two most important BCT accounts (Ullo and DStrange) are both announcing early april for the next release (which is very close)
- they did this new stylish announcing thread with nice infographics & meaningful roadmap

Feels to me like they really have something, but could also be just a very good made pump effort. Who knows. Wink



Also very interesting to me are the announced "CryptoNote protocol updates". In my world of thought, it would have been required & necessary to (at least) talk with the devs & leaders of the biggest CN-coin, before announcing changes to the protocol.
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I feel like they will release something, because:

- they completely redone the webpage (with GUI client screenshots)
- their two most important BCT accounts (Ullo and DStrange) are both announcing early april for the next release (which is very close)
- they did this new stylish announcing thread with nice infographics & meaningful roadmap

Feels to me like they really have something, but could also be just a very good made pump effort. Who knows. Wink



Also very interesting to me are the announced "CryptoNote protocol updates". In my world of thought, it would have been required & necessary to (at least) talk with the devs & leaders of the biggest CN-coin, before announcing changes to the protocol.

That's exactly the problem. Your world of thought is not the same as the world inhabited by people who fake a blockchain claiming to be from 2012 in order to hide an 82% premine, which is not only outrageous but completely breaks anonymity (using the chain reaction methods of MRL-0001).

I would assume everything from them is some sort of deception or fraud until and unless proven otherwise.
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April 03, 2015, 09:25:26 PM
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5w00p: Everybody shares your opinion about ByteCoin. But code talks. I am no software developer, so I dont understand & know the code bases of Monero and Bytecoin.

So I ask, if maybe something good can come out of this.

Have they actually done any of it?  It was released on April Fools so who knows what to make of it.

There been no commits on their github since September 15.

https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/commits/master

What they are doing behind closed doors we obviously don't know, but it is certainly not an open transparent project. That is strike four (first three by being lying scammers).


didn't they released all at once and as result the Monero fork went to the limbo for months because no one fully trusted the code?

why visit the limbo again? ppl now trust Monero.

Not to mention its currently worth about as much as dirt on exchanges.

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April 03, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
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5w00p: Everybody shares your opinion about ByteCoin. But code talks. I am no software developer, so I dont understand & know the code bases of Monero and Bytecoin.

So I ask, if maybe something good can come out of this. Because some of the announced features undoubtedly look promising.

The bulk of the stuff they're promising is pretty uninteresting (coloured coins that require mixin 0 transactions all over the place? come on. there are better ways to do tradeable assets.)

The handful of things they're looking to do not already in our Design and Development goals are kinda meh (on-blockchain aliases? BBR had that nearly a year ago, and we've had OpenAlias for ages, which is a markedly better solution).

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April 03, 2015, 09:39:56 PM
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I meant to say interesting, not in a meaning of super innovative and newly-discovered features.
Most of this stuff is obviously on alot of serious coins roadmap.

I meant to say, is there a chance that this could accelerate Moneros development?
(So it could be interesting from this perspective to all of us.)

---> But this question is now already answered with smooths reply. (Nobody knows today, we have to wait for the release.)
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April 04, 2015, 12:05:18 AM
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I have +200-1000 kh/s monero miners.
Is it better to mine solo with this hash power?
Can anyone tell me how to mine solo to only one wallet from many GPU's?

If you really meant KH/s (kilohashes/second), then you would be better off mining solo. To do that you would have to set up your own pool, which can be done by following the instructions on the README.md file from any of the open source pool forks which fluffypony already mentioned:

https://github.com/fancoder/cryptonote-universal-pool
https://github.com/sammy007/node-cryptonote-pool
https://github.com/perl5577/node-cryptonote-pool

If you meant H/s (hashes/second) and you want receive frequent payouts, then you should mine at a pool. You could still set up your own pool, but it could take several weeks to find a block depending on your luck.

And finally, if its KH/s and you still opt to mine at a pool, then it would be better for the network (and some would say that for you too) to mine at some of the smaller pools, and not one of the top.

MoneroHash.com - U.S. Mining Pool
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i use yam minerd xmr in centos,but "Error:no ..."Often,Cause abnormal program termination, and how to solve
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