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April 08, 2015, 01:26:26 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2015, 01:43:16 PM by vokain
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Honestly, don't get me wrong, but I am very surprised that you as a core dev do not educate your users on how Monero works, but actually reinforce silly FUD. Luckily, the math is neutral to everyone.
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lol why you no edumacate us fluffypony?

No intend to offend anyone, but I think this whole issue could have been extinguished, not escalated.

I've made use of chainradar a bit and am glad for its existence. FWIW, thank you for the prompt action, and for your (free?) service to this community and crypto in general.
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April 08, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
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Honestly, don't get me wrong, but I am very surprised that you as a core dev do not educate your users on how Monero works, but actually reinforce silly FUD. Luckily, the math is neutral to everyone.
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lol why you no edumacate us fluffypony?

No intend to offend anyone, but I think this whole issue could have been extinguished, not escalated.

I've made use of chainradar a bit and am glad for its existence. FWIW, thank you for the prompt response, and for your (free?) service to this community and crypto in general.

FWIW, I have also been thankful for it many many times.
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April 08, 2015, 01:45:09 PM
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Honestly, don't get me wrong, but I am very surprised that you as a core dev do not educate your users on how Monero works, but actually reinforce silly FUD. Luckily, the math is neutral to everyone.
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lol why you no edumacate us fluffypony?

No intend to offend anyone, but I think this whole issue could have been extinguished, not escalated.

Not intend to offend you, but YOUR "bug" + Trolls = escalated.  Fluffypony's time to prove the trolls wrong = extinguished.

What I don't know for sure is if you are on the side of the extinguishers or the escalators.

Seriously.

Perhaps folks like Ricardo will be more patient...  but I have signed no contract to be.  Keep digging.

Guys, my bad, sorry. I edited the post so that it's not offensive.
I'm not in the situation, not following the forum recently, so from my perspective there was no need to test anything with ChainRadar, as the answer is pretty clear: it is impossible.

Secondly, I repeat that it is the issue from since the start of the project, and for all currencies, not just Monero.

Well all seems to be good now, though if there's one tiny bit that bothers me, it's the use of referring to a general body of people that is possibly not exclusive to males as "guys" in the above post, which is still inherently sexist despite how commonly it slips. You can thank Doug Hofstadter for that pet peeve of mine.  

Edit: http://www.alternet.org/story/48856/why_sexist_language_matters
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html
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April 08, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
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Well all seems to be good now, though if there's one tiny bit that bothers me, it's the use of referring to a general body of people that is possibly not exclusive to males as "guys" in the above post, which is inherently sexist despite how commonly it slips. Thank Doug Hofstadter for that pet peeve of mine.  

Edit: http://www.alternet.org/story/48856/why_sexist_language_matters

Aren't you a bit picky there? Smiley
I'm not a native speaker but always thought it could be applied to mixed group (men + women) when addressing people in a friendly manner?

Anyway, it's nice to see the chainradar story finishing happily!

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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April 08, 2015, 01:59:52 PM
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Well all seems to be good now, though if there's one tiny bit that bothers me, it's the use of referring to a general body of people that is possibly not exclusive to males as "guys" in the above post, which is inherently sexist despite how commonly it slips. Thank Doug Hofstadter for that pet peeve of mine.  

Edit: http://www.alternet.org/story/48856/why_sexist_language_matters
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~evans/cs655/readings/purity.html

Aren't you a bit picky there? Smiley
I'm not a native speaker but always thought it could be applied to mixed group (men + women) when addressing people in a friendly manner?

Anyway, it's nice to see the chainradar story finishing happily!


It's common, but incorrect.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+guy
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April 08, 2015, 02:22:24 PM
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It's common, but incorrect.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+guy

It's not incorrect.

From Merriam-Webster:
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a :  man, fellow
b :  person —used in plural to refer to the members of a group regardless of sex <saw her and the rest of the guys>

Or perhaps you prefer Oxford:
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1 informal A man:
he’s a nice guy
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1.1 (guys) People of either sex:
you guys want some coffee?

Sorry for off-topic, but I'm not a fan of people trying to dictate what language is "correct" to use in a non-technical setting, especially in this context where both of the most well-known/respected dictionaries agree with the asexual usage. Also, sorry, but it's a man's world Tongue
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April 08, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
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I use guys for animals too
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April 08, 2015, 02:52:16 PM
Last edit: April 08, 2015, 03:18:53 PM by vokain
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It's common, but incorrect.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+guy

It's not incorrect.

From Merriam-Webster:
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a :  man, fellow
b :  person —used in plural to refer to the members of a group regardless of sex <saw her and the rest of the guys>

Or perhaps you prefer Oxford:
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1 informal A man:
he’s a nice guy
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1.1 (guys) People of either sex:
you guys want some coffee?

Sorry for off-topic, but I'm not a fan of people trying to dictate what language is "correct" to use in a non-technical setting, especially in this context where both of the most well-known/respected dictionaries agree with the asexual usage. Also, sorry, but it's a man's world Tongue

Do what you want, I'm not stopping you. I'm just trying to make aware its cognitive effects.

Dictionaries tend to record popular usage (where did popularism ever leave governed society?) of language but etymologically, a guy is still a man, making guys to refer to anything other than a group of men, etymologically incorrect despite a social norm. You don't refer to a female as a guy. A guy definitively represents a male.

If you're interested in the controversies, subtleties, and implications of continuing this defect of culture, it's a career-long topic of Prof. Hof that he can give rhetoric, general and specific anecdotes, and just enjoyable conversation about, for every reason that I agree. In summary, it propagates a subtle male supremacy of society in a world where women are continually harassed by social norms.

Don't get me wrong, I still slip "guys" incorrectly at times, but I always catch and correct myself now that I know better.

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April 08, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.
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April 08, 2015, 03:10:42 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?
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April 08, 2015, 03:17:25 PM
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My address can be effectively used as a burn address Tongue
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April 08, 2015, 03:32:13 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?

Yeah, I guess I wasn't specific enough.
I'm looking for a way to create a provably unspendable burn address.
Meaning it should be obvious, for example contain a lot of consecutive X's.
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April 08, 2015, 03:36:06 PM
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Monero may be on its way to its first Fiat exchange.

That would be outstanding.

Edit: It would be for the Indonesian Rupiah, but the only pair they offer it with is BTC. Altcoins are only paired with BTC.

You are right, still a important milestone I think.


Yeah, speaking of fiat-supporting exchanges, I remember CCEDK.COM talking about adding Monero, but that still hasn't happened.

Also, bter.com has XMR/BTC, and also used to support USD deposits and USD pairs. However, USD deposits were disabled there back in January.
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April 08, 2015, 03:36:16 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?

Yeah, I guess I wasn't specific enough.
I'm looking for a way to create a provably unspendable burn address.
Meaning it should be obvious, for example contain a lot of consecutive X's.

keep generating wallets until you get one with a lot of x's.

this vanity address generator exists

https://monerotalk.org/t/vanity-address-generator/134

https://github.com/ehmry/monero-vanity

so you'll essentially publish the viewkey?

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April 08, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?

Yeah, I guess I wasn't specific enough.
I'm looking for a way to create a provably unspendable burn address.
Meaning it should be obvious, for example contain a lot of consecutive X's.

keep generating wallets until you get one with a lot of x's.

this vanity address generator exists

https://monerotalk.org/t/vanity-address-generator/134

https://github.com/ehmry/monero-vanity

so you'll essentially publish the viewkey?


The idea is that nobody will have the private key so nobody will have the possibility to spend the funds.

I want to generate an address, to which it's highly improbable anyone will have the private key.

EDIT: Counterparty created such a BTC address back in the days of their launch
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April 08, 2015, 04:01:47 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?

Yeah, I guess I wasn't specific enough.
I'm looking for a way to create a provably unspendable burn address.
Meaning it should be obvious, for example contain a lot of consecutive X's.

keep generating wallets until you get one with a lot of x's.

this vanity address generator exists

https://monerotalk.org/t/vanity-address-generator/134

https://github.com/ehmry/monero-vanity

so you'll essentially publish the viewkey?


The idea is that nobody will have the private key so nobody will have the possibility to spend the funds.

I want to generate an address, to which it's highly improbable anyone will have the private key.

EDIT: Counterparty created such a BTC address back in the days of their launch

Couldn't you still take the same advice I gave but then take whatever address was given and replace the first 10-15 characters with something along the lines of "xxxxxmoneroxxxxx", then again, the viewkey would no longer work so you wouldn't be able to view it anyway. Interesting.
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April 08, 2015, 04:03:51 PM
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Listen the interview with our core dev Fluffypony on LetsTalkBitcoin:

https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/ltb-e202-understanding-monero

Anon136, this is what you were asking for right?  Grin

I was asking for it, too. Smiley Top notch work, fluffypony!
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April 08, 2015, 04:04:32 PM
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Hey Monero Community !!

Can anyone please guide me on how to create a custom Monero burn address, or generally in the Cryptonote protocol?

Will appreciate your kind help.

Create a wallet in a live environment in ram with a super long password (100+ characters) and don't write down it or the seed. Send your coins to the address. Why do you want to burn your coins?

Yeah, I guess I wasn't specific enough.
I'm looking for a way to create a provably unspendable burn address.
Meaning it should be obvious, for example contain a lot of consecutive X's.

keep generating wallets until you get one with a lot of x's.

this vanity address generator exists

https://monerotalk.org/t/vanity-address-generator/134

https://github.com/ehmry/monero-vanity

so you'll essentially publish the viewkey?


The idea is that nobody will have the private key so nobody will have the possibility to spend the funds.

I want to generate an address, to which it's highly improbable anyone will have the private key.

EDIT: Counterparty created such a BTC address back in the days of their launch

I know. The difference with Monero is that no one will be able to see on the blockchain whether the address is indeed receiving transfers, unless you publish the viewkey.

Are you relatively new to monero? Viewkey and payment_ID are things unique to Monero (I think). There is no equivalent in bitcoin (because there is no need).

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April 08, 2015, 04:08:15 PM
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Are you relatively new to monero? Viewkey and payment_ID are things unique to Monero (I think). There is no equivalent in bitcoin (because there is no need).

Maybe this is somehow off topic, still.. does viewkey actually work? Or is there some info I've missed about when is it planned to be done?

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April 08, 2015, 04:09:49 PM
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Are you relatively new to monero? Viewkey and payment_ID are things unique to Monero (I think). There is no equivalent in bitcoin (because there is no need).

Maybe this is somehow off topic, still.. does viewkey actually work? Or is there some info I've missed about when is it planned to be done?

oh good point. I don't know. I just assume it works because its always talked about as one of the cool things about Monero.

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