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February 02, 2016, 11:24:08 PM
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^^ Option to allow plugins for XMR.to and ShapeShift.io, wow!!

So because it would allow shapeshift, does that mean the GUI would be able to hold Bitcoin too?

No it means you could enter a BTC address and pay using the XMR in your wallet via xmr.to or shapeshift. Potentially, I suppose a plug in to hold BTC is not out of the question but that is not the originally envisioned use case.


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February 02, 2016, 11:25:59 PM
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^^ Option to allow plugins for XMR.to and ShapeShift.io, wow!!

So because it would allow shapeshift, does that mean the GUI would be able to hold Bitcoin too?

No it means you could enter a BTC address and pay using the XMR in your wallet via xmr.to or shapeshift. Potentially, I suppose a plug in to hold BTC is not out of the question but that is not the originally envisioned use case.


Oh ok, I just assumed shapeshift would be used as a way of buying monero through the GUI, since XMR.to does the conversion of XMR->BTC already.
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February 03, 2016, 01:04:19 AM
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^^ Option to allow plugins for XMR.to and ShapeShift.io, wow!!

So because it would allow shapeshift, does that mean the GUI would be able to hold Bitcoin too?

No it means you could enter a BTC address and pay using the XMR in your wallet via xmr.to or shapeshift. Potentially, I suppose a plug in to hold BTC is not out of the question but that is not the originally envisioned use case.


Can the plugin do https://www.changer.com/ also?

A wallet that handles seamlessly handles spending/converting/hodling BTC and XMR is a great idea, because they are complementary.

Ideally, it needs the i2p thingy too!  And integrated MoneroDice gambling, of course!  Perhaps even OpenBazaar?

We're headed in that direction.  We'll get there.

At the rate good ideas get are getting funded, we'll have a Monero blimp over next year's SuperBowl.   Cool


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February 03, 2016, 01:19:55 AM
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Has anyone got a rough estimation how much H/s a PowerColor Radeon R9 390X2 Devil 13 dual GPU with 16 GB ram could possibly make stock / overclocked?
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February 03, 2016, 01:24:43 AM
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Can the plugin do https://www.changer.com/ also?

A wallet that handles seamlessly handles spending/converting/hodling BTC and XMR is a great idea, because they are complementary.

Ideally, it needs the i2p thingy too!  And integrated MoneroDice gambling, of course!  Perhaps even OpenBazaar?

We're headed in that direction.  We'll get there.

At the rate good ideas get are getting funded, we'll have a Monero blimp over next year's SuperBowl.   Cool

The plugin concept is that one can add a plugin for a service such as shapeshift.io or changer.com that would allow one to spend XMR into any of the currencies offered by the service. That would mean not just XBT but other currencies including dare I say for example DASH. Supporting all the different currencies as full node in one wallet is an entirely different issue.

Edit: This functionality is potentially very powerful. It reminds me of what Microsoft did in the early 1990's with Windows 3.1.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 03, 2016, 02:51:58 AM
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aiwe, great job on the graphics! Do you have links to where we can download high-quality versions of each (300-dpi jpg, or .psd)?

I will attach vector images on Trello

Just a suggestion - I think it will look better with the red and blue swapped.
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February 03, 2016, 02:56:32 AM
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^^ Option to allow plugins for XMR.to and ShapeShift.io, wow!!

So because it would allow shapeshift, does that mean the GUI would be able to hold Bitcoin too?

No it means you could enter a BTC address and pay using the XMR in your wallet via xmr.to or shapeshift. Potentially, I suppose a plug in to hold BTC is not out of the question but that is not the originally envisioned use case.


Oh ok, I just assumed shapeshift would be used as a way of buying monero through the GUI, since XMR.to does the conversion of XMR->BTC already.

I guess a simple "Buy Monero" plug in could provide instructions for buying Monero or maybe actually set up the trade with the shapeshift API (or another such service), having already filled in your XMR address for you. But actually sending the BTC or other form of payment would have to be done using a BTC, etc. wallet.
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February 03, 2016, 03:14:44 AM
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Can the plugin do https://www.changer.com/ also?

A wallet that handles seamlessly handles spending/converting/hodling BTC and XMR is a great idea, because they are complementary.

Ideally, it needs the i2p thingy too!  And integrated MoneroDice gambling, of course!  Perhaps even OpenBazaar?

We're headed in that direction.  We'll get there.

At the rate good ideas get are getting funded, we'll have a Monero blimp over next year's SuperBowl.   Cool



Do we know who owns changer.com? After Cryptsy (and maybe BTER based on this Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/43nivn/bter_holds_my_1800_xmr_since_20012016/), we need to be cautious when dealing with new exchanges.

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February 03, 2016, 03:22:28 AM
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Can the plugin do https://www.changer.com/ also?

A wallet that handles seamlessly handles spending/converting/hodling BTC and XMR is a great idea, because they are complementary.

Ideally, it needs the i2p thingy too!  And integrated MoneroDice gambling, of course!  Perhaps even OpenBazaar?

We're headed in that direction.  We'll get there.

At the rate good ideas get are getting funded, we'll have a Monero blimp over next year's SuperBowl.   Cool



Do we know who owns changer.com? After Cryptsy (and maybe BTER based on this Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/43nivn/bter_holds_my_1800_xmr_since_20012016/), we need to be cautious when dealing with new exchanges.

there whois is private, but through godaddy.... i think the IP goes to a US server.

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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February 03, 2016, 03:39:16 AM
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Do we know who owns changer.com? After Cryptsy (and maybe BTER based on this Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/43nivn/bter_holds_my_1800_xmr_since_20012016/), we need to be cautious when dealing with new exchanges.

This will ultimately have to come to the end user trusting the service and the plugin provider.

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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February 03, 2016, 03:43:57 AM
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Do we know who owns changer.com? After Cryptsy (and maybe BTER based on this Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/43nivn/bter_holds_my_1800_xmr_since_20012016/), we need to be cautious when dealing with new exchanges.

This will ultimately have to come to the end user trusting the service and the plugin provider.

I trust (and verify) them about 100 XMR at a time.   Cheesy


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February 03, 2016, 04:56:40 AM
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Do we know who owns changer.com? After Cryptsy (and maybe BTER based on this Reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/43nivn/bter_holds_my_1800_xmr_since_20012016/), we need to be cautious when dealing with new exchanges.

This will ultimately have to come to the end user trusting the service and the plugin provider.

I trust (and verify) them about 100 XMR at a time.   Cheesy

This seems like the best approach in most cases. Risk only small amounts that you can afford to lose.
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February 03, 2016, 12:18:41 PM
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The GUI Project is fully funded now!!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2476/the-official-qt-gui-project
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February 03, 2016, 04:33:48 PM
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That didn't take long, what was it like 12 hours?  Not bad for 14k XMR.

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February 05, 2016, 01:37:03 AM
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http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/02/crypto-flaw-was-so-glaring-it-may-be-intentional-eavesdropping-backdoor/

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February 05, 2016, 11:30:56 AM
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Nice! I will look forward to getting that up and running later this year. LMDB, Ring-CT, and plugin flexibility in a GUI. Maturing...
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February 05, 2016, 11:57:46 AM
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http://www.coindesk.com/how-to-save-bitcoins-node-network-from-centralization/

In this article Jameson Lopp makes the case that defining and adhering to a minimum spec for running a Bitcoin node would help decentralization and could help in the decision process when making changes to the protocol.

What do you guys think of defining such specs for a Monero node?
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February 05, 2016, 12:12:16 PM
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What like? no more than 2 versions behind or something?

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February 05, 2016, 01:59:23 PM
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What like? no more than 2 versions behind or something?



Like the minimum hardware required to run a full node and the target performance of such configuration.

This is the example he gives for a Bitcoin node:

Quote from: Jameson Lopp - How to Save Bitcoin's Node Network from Centralization
For example, a min spec might look something like this:

    Target hardware resource cost: $200
    Target worst case time to validate a block: 10 seconds
    Minimum network I/O: 2 Mb/s
    Minimum disk I/O: 2 Mb/s
    Minimum CPU: 5,000 MIPS
    Minimum RAM: 1 GB

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Thank you for the language selection wizard.

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