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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4670881 times)
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February 16, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

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Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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February 16, 2016, 05:37:42 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.
At least tell him about the newest benefit on low ram computers since obviously he is running on recycled hardware. Blockchain on the HD rather than using the crap out of your virtual resources. It enables you to run more wallets which should interest you.

I don't know why I am helping.

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February 16, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.


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February 16, 2016, 05:43:38 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

"the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange
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February 16, 2016, 05:50:16 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Monero did recentl make an official release that moved the db from ram to hd, but there is a way to run a much "lighter" wallet with Monero: because the daemon and wallet are separate you can launch simplewallet using a remote node. Atrides runs a publicly available node that a gui I wrote for simplewallet (imaginatively titled lightwallet) uses by default. You do sacrifice some privacy this way, but you don't need the daemon or blockchain at all.
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February 16, 2016, 05:59:36 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.


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February 16, 2016, 06:01:01 PM
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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

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February 16, 2016, 06:05:20 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.
Just checked. Nobody cares.

"the destruction of privacy widens the existing power imbalance between the ruling factions and everyone else" -- Julian Assange
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February 16, 2016, 06:09:31 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg13710902#msg13710902

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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February 16, 2016, 06:10:26 PM
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Will better database compression be integrated into the client?
I just compressed the databse with 7-Zip and it has decreased from 7.9GB to 4.2.
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February 16, 2016, 06:12:38 PM
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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.


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February 16, 2016, 06:13:17 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg13710902#msg13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?


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February 16, 2016, 06:14:31 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.
Just checked. Nobody cares.

Well I do and Crawallmining does also.


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February 16, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.

It's open source here. Not sure what difference you're talking about then.

Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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February 16, 2016, 06:16:49 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg13710902#msg13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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February 16, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.

By 3rd party, I am referring to Dash masternodes. There are no masternodes in Monero.

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February 16, 2016, 06:24:23 PM
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Well I do and Crawallmining does also.

Who?

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February 16, 2016, 06:24:32 PM
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Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?



Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.
Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg13710902#msg13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

One can also run the official simplewallet with a remote node. Node and instructions are here -> https://www.moneroclub.com/node. However, like I and others have stated before, using a remote node has a detrimental effect on privacy.

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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February 16, 2016, 06:27:01 PM
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Well I do and Crawallmining does also.
I'd like to see database size decreased, yes. But I surely don't take Dash as a positive example, since I find its privacy concept quite primitive in comparison to Monero.
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February 16, 2016, 06:27:46 PM
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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Just checked. South African Rands take up no disk space and don't eat any RAM. Best of all, they're exceptionally private.

GUYS LET'S ALL SWITCH TO SOUTH AFRICAN RANDS, K TKS.

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