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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4668181 times)
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September 23, 2016, 03:30:55 PM
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Why, are you trying to embarrass me?  Windows 10 Embarrassed  

Unless you are going to game on it scrap that crap. https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php It's super user friendly. My dad switched to it no problem. I like xfce. Seriously you wont regret the switch.

Thanks, bookmarked.  Windows is needed for my poker programs although I'm spending very little  time on it nowadays.

I'd rather keep a wallet on a dedicated machine running windows than keep a wallet on a linux machine that gets used for general web browsing, email, opening random files, installing random applications. The OS is less important than user best practices. Choose your own numbers because everyone's finances are personal, but here's the way I think about it:

  • Spending money value <$1,000: general purpose laptop or web wallet
  • Medium investment value >$1,000: dedicated online laptop / virtual machine on clean host
  • Significant investment value >$10,000: offline wallet w/ multiple backups and a way for your family to access it in the event of your death

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September 23, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
Last edit: September 25, 2016, 07:57:52 PM by c789
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I just downloaded the 64 bit linux wolfram warptangent.
I now have a .tar.bz2 file in Downloads.  I believe this is a compressed file that needs to be extracted.  How does one do that from the command line (assuming it hasn't been extracted already)?
edit:
My linux distro, galliumos, has a gui filemanager.  When I right click on the tar file, I have a choice to "extract here" or "extract to..."
I can't figure out how to make the "extract to" command in the gui works.  I created a folder called "monero" in the home directory.  Then I double clicked the tar file and chose "extract to..." but no success.  I suppose it's better not to bother with the gui.  I am googling how to extract a tar file in linux right now.
Any offers of quick help would be appreciated, because I have to get my coins off polo.

First result on google
From the terminal, change to the directory where yourfile.tar has been downloaded.
Type tar -xvf yourfile.tar to extract the file to the current directory.
Or tar -C /myfolder -xvf yourfile.tar to extract to another directory.


I am trying to remember some basic linux commands.  What's the one that shows you the directory you are currently working in?  Oh yeah, pwd.  I think I'm getting somewhere now, maybe I can figure this out.

Try this, substituting "filename.tar.bz2" for the actual file name:

Move your downloaded .tar.bz2 to the "monero" folder you created:
Code:
cd Downloads
mv filename.tar.bz2 ~/monero/
Then extract the files from the .bz2:
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Code:
cd ~/monero

Code:
tar -xvf filename.tar.bz2

Now you should be able to see all of the extracted files in the "monero" directory. You can view them with the command:
Code:
ls -lh

The files should be executable with an "x" on the end of the permissions, like this:
Code:
-rwxr-xr-x user group filesize date filename
If the "x" is not there, make the files executable with this command:
Code:
chmod +x *.*

To run the monero client, do this:
Code:
./monerod

Edit: Wait for the monero client to show "Synced OK" a few times before running the wallet. Downloading and storing the blockchain could take less than an hour with a fast connection and fast SSD, or longer with a slow connection and/or spinning metal HD.

To run the monero wallet, open another terminal, change to the monero directory, and run the wallet:
Code:
cd monero
./monero-wallet-cli

If this doesn't work we can continue it in the support thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=652305

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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September 23, 2016, 03:54:15 PM
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Why, are you trying to embarrass me?  Windows 10 Embarrassed  

Unless you are going to game on it scrap that crap. https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php It's super user friendly. My dad switched to it no problem. I like xfce. Seriously you wont regret the switch.

Thanks, bookmarked.  Windows is needed for my poker programs although I'm spending very little  time on it nowadays.

You may be able to run those poker programs on Gnu/Linux with a program called "Wine". If you use Mint or Ubuntu, do a search for "Wine" in the Software Center. I use it for several Windows programs and they all work as well as they do in Windows, but in Linux.

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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September 23, 2016, 04:37:55 PM
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Coincheck will start trading Monero:

https://coincheck.com/blog/2303

https://twitter.com/coincheckjp/status/779151756483670016

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September 23, 2016, 05:09:36 PM
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They seem quite late on adding monero to their platform but nice news for all of us monero supporters.  Grin

 
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September 23, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
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Why, are you trying to embarrass me?  Windows 10 Embarrassed  

Unless you are going to game on it scrap that crap. https://www.linuxmint.com/download.php It's super user friendly. My dad switched to it no problem. I like xfce. Seriously you wont regret the switch.

Thanks, bookmarked.  Windows is needed for my poker programs although I'm spending very little  time on it nowadays.

You may be able to run those poker programs on Gnu/Linux with a program called "Wine". If you use Mint or Ubuntu, do a search for "Wine" in the Software Center. I use it for several Windows programs and they all work as well as they do in Windows, but in Linux.

There are far to many programs for win only, nix works fine as a live cd or in a VM, much better than wine's compatability. Still Waiting on ReactOS but I'm pretty sure our GUI will be here first! Cheesy

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September 24, 2016, 08:42:02 AM
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Can pools still pay miners with mixin 0?
Have a look at this: http://minexmr.com/#payments
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September 24, 2016, 09:17:29 AM
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Can pools still pay miners with mixin 0?
Have a look at this: http://minexmr.com/#payments

They are mixin 2. You can see if you click the transaction hash link.

http://moneroblocks.info/tx/49f9dbe231bd483fd27eb32c1eb63aec7a5ec308b8073e73fe52d18290ee5565

The pool UI is incorrectly showing mixin 0 for some reason.
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September 24, 2016, 01:50:29 PM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change
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September 24, 2016, 01:53:07 PM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


It will change in about 2 weeks.

And thats a for real 2 weeks, not the 2 weeks that is interchangeable with soon. The recent fork and software will now enable 0.005 xmr / kb or something... or its 0.0005.

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September 24, 2016, 02:24:36 PM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


It will change in about 2 weeks.

And thats a for real 2 weeks, not the 2 weeks that is interchangeable with soon. The recent fork and software will now enable 0.005 xmr / kb or something... or its 0.0005.

Sweet. Now if only poloniex would reduce the withdraw fee from .2 as well...  Roll Eyes

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September 24, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
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Thanks for info about lower tx fees.
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September 24, 2016, 02:53:18 PM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


It will change in about 2 weeks.

And thats a for real 2 weeks, not the 2 weeks that is interchangeable with soon. The recent fork and software will now enable 0.005 xmr / kb or something... or its 0.0005.

Little correction, it'll be 0.002 XMR per kB.

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September 24, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
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Windows is needed for my poker programs.

I hear ya. I'm typing on a windows machine right now because of heroes of the storm and overwatch. Just don't put anything valuable on it. Its not that it could have spyware on it, though it could, the problem is more that windows is spyware.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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September 24, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
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Not that me can start the CPU miner yvg1900 - Yam M8A Miner. Can somebody give me .bat and .conf file for yvg1900 - Yam M8A Miner (I have a Xeon E5 2670 V1 and i7 4930K)?
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


I just sent a transaction for the cost of 0.1 USD. So it varies quite a bit. You could have just been forced to bundle up a ton of tiny transactions in order to get them to add up to a big one. So like even in real life, with regular money, do you imagine that it would be a cost free experience to try to purchase a new automobile with random pennies nickels quarters and dimes? Of course not. Its the same thing here.

Some things that can help: Use the same wallet for prolonged periods of time. Dont sweep an address. That way you will build up lots of useful denominations for inputs. That helps but the most important thing is when you make a payment use ordinary denominations. Demand that the party you are sending to accept a payment that is rounded to a reasonable significant figure. Squabbling over a few cents will not benefit either party when using monero.

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September 24, 2016, 10:28:22 PM
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I think the wallet has the option to set a fee manually to process the action. If it is not available yet, then the dev must include the option to customize the fee.
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September 25, 2016, 02:16:43 AM
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I think the wallet has the option to set a fee manually to process the action. If it is not available yet, then the dev must include the option to customize the fee.

Wait, wut?

No, no dev "Must" NOT do anything, just because you say so.  Roll Eyes

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September 25, 2016, 02:26:08 AM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


0.1 xmr fee is too heavy for ordinary people. 0.0001-0.001 is decent, current fee will resist xmr has mass adoption.
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September 25, 2016, 02:46:08 AM
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I dont like the monero fees they are just to high.....

0.1 fees it should be more like 0.00085  since monero
is not at the price where it was now its 10 dollars per piece meaning that the fees are expensive...
and it needs to change


0.1 xmr fee is too heavy for ordinary people. 0.0001-0.001 is decent, current fee will resist xmr has mass adoption.

The current min fee is 0.01 and I usually pay ~0.03.  The min fee is being reduced to 0.002 in about 2 weeks which will make that 0.03 transaction 0.006 or about 6 cents which is what I pay for a btc transaction.  The size of a transaction is a bit larger than btc due to the private nature of the transactions so I don't see why you think you should pay less than btc.  A couple of posts before yours Anon136 tried to explain why some transactions incur larger fees than usual.
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