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September 04, 2014, 10:47:29 AM |
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Pretty suspicious that he already knows how to solve this trying to induce a brotherwar is far more suspicous. it makes absolutely no sense to disrespect bbr from xmrs standpoint and vice versa - that is probably the only argument I share with james
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wachtwoord
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September 04, 2014, 10:48:38 AM |
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Yes, both chains obviously accepted your transaction. This has nothing to do with on which chain you are. To check on which chain you are check your chain height and compare it with monerochain.info and chainradar.com
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September 04, 2014, 10:49:29 AM |
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Different chains, different height. The bad fork is stuck around 202650 and the good fork is now around 202990 Edit: ninja'd
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September 04, 2014, 10:52:18 AM |
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Pretty suspicious that he already knows how to solve this trying to induce a brotherwar is far more suspicous. it makes absolutely no sense to disrespect bbr from xmrs standpoint and vice versa - that is probably the only argument I share with james i agree, insinuating that the devs of bbr had a hand in this attack is pretty low life with out any facts.. CZ is an excelent dev so it is not so hard to believe that he could find a solution so fast. Stop strawmanning. So, i have time to calmly research the problem.
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September 04, 2014, 10:52:49 AM |
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Pretty suspicious that he already knows how to solve this trying to induce a brotherwar is far more suspicous. it makes absolutely no sense to disrespect bbr from xmrs standpoint and vice versa - that is probably the only argument I share with james Nowhere he says he knows how to solve it. He just says he will watch the chain and implement a workaround if he sees suspicious acitivity aiming towards a fork.
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September 04, 2014, 10:53:07 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
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September 04, 2014, 10:55:11 AM |
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Noobish question: Does all this new information mean that this "tx-fork bug" only caused a simple -not very enduring- fork? That's all it did? If so, is that a major problem, or simply something that can be fixed easily?
Sometimes noobish questions are the best.
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September 04, 2014, 10:56:03 AM |
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Noobish question: Does all this new information mean that this "tx-fork bug" only caused a simple -not very enduring- fork? That's all it did? If so, is that a major problem, or simply something that can be fixed easily?
Yes - BUT it could happen again, so getting to the root of the problem is essential.
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September 04, 2014, 10:56:54 AM |
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Hi All, To speedup download of blockchain, I have prepared torrent file with right blockchain (onyl linux 64bit): print_block 202614 block_id: <c29e3dc37d8da3e72e506e31a213a58771b24450144305bcba9e70fa4d6ea6fb>
Available diff 2029742014-Sep-04 12:19:19.532192 BH: 202974, DIFF: 1256699629, HR: 20944993 H/s Torrent file: http://dwarfpool.com/static/xmr/monero-blockchain-202974.torrentmd5sum 2bbc74cf91dad9944707e57851e84a9b
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September 04, 2014, 10:58:19 AM |
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Ok serious question how can we be sure no additional harm was made during the attack?
When Feathercoin was attacked back in the day the developers did not realise the damage done for several hours....
Maybe some more research should take place before proceeding...
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September 04, 2014, 10:58:32 AM |
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Hi Guys,
first off - thanks Fluffypony for sorting things out.
so i started simplewallet and it gets stuck on block 202650 - so i did not enter my password in wallet window.
should i enter my password to see if my coins are there?
so do i download blockchain.bin into monero directory and then start simplewallet again?
please i am not that technical.
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September 04, 2014, 10:59:38 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry.
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September 04, 2014, 11:02:05 AM |
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September 04, 2014, 11:03:34 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry. So conspiracists now will say that he deliberately left it as is so they will not get suspicious of BBR attacking XMR lol I want to see rpietila commenting on this because he claimed that BBR may be behind the attack. So what now Risto? You take it back or you adopt the above idea? Paranoia mode ON in this forum..
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September 04, 2014, 11:05:04 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry. So conspiracists now will say that he deliberately left it as is so they will not get suspicious of BBR attacking XMR lol I want to see rpietila commenting on this because he claimed that BBR may be behind the attack. So what now Risto? You take it back or you adopt the above idea? Paranoia mode ON in this forum.. The strawman continues: I take back all statements that may be understood as "attacking" BBR or its dev.
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September 04, 2014, 11:06:09 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry. you forgot to mention the part where he says he can mitigate an attack because it takes so long and that a solution has already be thought of. CZ didn't say he has a solution. He said he could implement a workaround: Bad news is that Boolbery also have this flaw. (Like every Cryptonote). Good news - that this attack need pretty long period of preparation, because to achive big amount of transactions per block attackers need to move median, it's a day or more. That means that even if i see that attack is starting i have enought time to update network with workaround rule, that won't let grow transactions count per block too much to fail.
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September 04, 2014, 11:10:48 AM |
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My gut! This will be MOON (with capital letters) for boolberry!
Monero devs should act as fast as possible.
Zoidberg admitted to having the same weakness in Boolberry. you forgot to mention the part where he says he can mitigate an attack because it takes so long and that a solution has already be thought of. CZ didn't say he has a solution. He said he could implement a workaround: Bad news is that Boolbery also have this flaw. (Like every Cryptonote). Good news - that this attack need pretty long period of preparation, because to achive big amount of transactions per block attackers need to move median, it's a day or more. That means that even if i see that attack is starting i have enought time to update network with workaround rule, that won't let grow transactions count per block too much to fail. Yes, Zoidberg doesn't even say he know what the problem is. He just said it takes a while and he can mitigate it. The Monero devs can do the same thing (for example limit the number of transactions in a block temporarily or whatever). XMR and BBR are in the same situation here.
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September 04, 2014, 11:13:00 AM |
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Let's give the coin vs. coin sniping a rest for a while.
We're all working on addressing the issue.
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September 04, 2014, 11:15:06 AM |
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Let's give the coin vs. coin sniping a rest for a while.
We're all working on addressing the issue.
I agree. Answering these questions legitimately, will only let your words be used against you. This is a blatant strawman attack, financially motivated and executed technically with a blockchain spam attack. Nothing less than an act of terrorism. Anyone giving any unconfirmed details is part of it at this point.
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September 04, 2014, 11:16:18 AM |
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