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[ChuckOne]

Which shops? Online shops like amazon or physical shops in a mall? If online shops, they are not selling virtual "assets" issued by anyone anonymous. They can also ban accounts and do chargebacks.

Banning accounts... so what. This is one thing.

On the other hand side, there are many other shops out there. And people buy/sell what they want. They do not need Eadeqa to tell them what to do. They are mature enough.

[theironman]

They can also ban accounts and do chargebacks.
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They also sell for credit. Evil.

[Eadeqa]

On the other hand side, there are many other shops out there. And people buy/sell what they want. They do not need Eadeqa to tell them what to do. They are mature enough.

I am not telling anyone what to buy and what to sell.  People are free to issue 100s of scam assets and others are free to buy them.

Why should the client list them for free? They issue the asset they get to advertise it. The client doesn't have to list anything by default.

If I want to send money to someone, I do not find their address in the client. I find it by other means (email, ask them, search for them). Same should apply to assets

[ChuckOne]

Why should the client list them for free? They issue the asset they get to advertise it. The client doesn't have to list anything by default.

I as a buyer/seller what to see that damn list of all assets available at some place. I do not care where but I want to see them especially because I already found interesting things.

It should not be up front but it should be there.

[iruu]

On the other hand side, there are many other shops out there. And people buy/sell what they want. They do not need Eadeqa to tell them what to do. They are mature enough.

I am not telling anyone what to buy and what to sell.  People are free to issue 100s of scam assets and others are free to buy them.

Why should the client list them for free? They issue the asset they get to advertise it. The client doesn't have to list anything by default.

If I want to send money to someone, I do not find their address in the client. I find it by other means (email, ask them, search for them). Same should apply to assets

The client doesn't list them for free, people paid 1000nxt for that.  
I'm pretty sure almost nobody would create assets without visible list.  "AAAshare", "Apple", "badPonzi", "Dragonball", ...

In this dictatorship-like decision, developers effectively expropriated many asset issuers.

[Eadeqa]

The client doesn't list them for free, people paid 1000nxt for that.  
I'm pretty sure almost nobody would create assets without visible list.  "AAAshare", "Apple", "badPonzi", "Dragonball", ...

In this dictatorship-like decision, developers effectively expropriated many asset issuers.

As wesley pointed out counterparty, mastercoin and ripple do not list the asset. No one does.  1000nxt is not enough. That's less money to advertise spam (links in description) for ever as assets to all future client users than spending it on google addwords.

Plus it's not scalable. This list will grow indefinitely for ever very fast if spammers find it profitable.

[msin]

As wesley pointed out counterparty, mastercoin and ripple do not list the asset.

Yeah, and no one uses those exchanges. We NEED to bring back the list of Assets, right now the AE is completely useless to a new user.  I can't even find a list of account ID's for the assets.  It's useful to be able to search listed Assets.  Here is a mockup by farl4bit that I think is a great way to organize:

https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-4/msg26055/#msg26055

[PilotofBTC]

What's up with BTER. The top NXT Bid = Ask (7800). Shouldn't that auto fill?

[Anon136]

first 2 bars ready to ship to the first person who can acquire 10 tokens

pictures will be posted shortly

I'm curious. The .1 you sent me, what does that equate to. .1 oz?

it sure does.

so how many do I need to get a bar?

-bm

10 troy ounces is the minimum order. i set it like that because i wanted to make it so simple that customers could just buy the tokens, send them to me along with their postal address and get silver. that means shipping has to be built in. which means there is a built in transfer of value from people who make smaller orders to people who make larger orders. i cant do away with that entirely without actually charging for shipping, but by setting the minimum order to 10 I mitigate it substantially. That way i can keep things super simple and my customers never even have to think about shipping.

ya that's one way to do it, probably better way is to just charge a fee if you want to cash out.

currently, your OZ is trading at 22.849 usd, which is well above spot price 19.42 usd (atow).  It's going to be hard to market that.

-bm

charge a fee in what? tell them that they have to understand some arcane fee structure in order to acquire silver? tell them that they have to send me 11 ounces of silver tokens inorder to aquire 10 ounces of silver? or that they have to send nxt also? im trying to make this simpler and more user friendly than any service that has ever come before it.

yes the price is high because right now there is only one seller. monopolies tend to yield high prices. more sellers will be coming online shortly. there are packages in transit that just haven't arrived yet.

Anon, could you include a link in the Asset description with a realtime NXT price for 1 oz silver? E.g. get a current price, divide by bitcoin-price, divide by nxt-price. Then display that. That would be great...

I don't know how to do that but ill give 1000 nxt to the first person who can give me a little piece of code that I can insert into my web page that would maintain a constant, real time, updated price of silver in nxt. if someone wants to take this on, please use bitstamp for the price of bitcoin and bter for the price of nxt.

[ChuckOne]

As wesley pointed out counterparty, mastercoin and ripple do not list the asset.

Yeah, and no one uses those exchanges. We NEED to bring back the list of Assets, right now the AE is completely useless to a new user.  I can't even find a list of account ID's for the assets.  It's useful to be able to search listed Assets.  Here is a mockup by farl4bit that I think is a great way to organize:

https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-4/msg26055/#msg26055

+1440

[theironman]

As wesley pointed out counterparty, mastercoin and ripple do not list the asset.

Yeah, and no one uses those exchanges. We NEED to bring back the list of Assets, right now the AE is completely useless to a new user.  I can't even find a list of account ID's for the assets.  It's useful to be able to search listed Assets.  Here is a mockup by farl4bit that I think is a great way to organize:

https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-4/msg26055/#msg26055

+1440

I like the idea of alphabetical order, since there will be a lot of assets.

[Tai Zen]

If you are a current user or new to the NXT community, you are welcome to join us today LIVE on Youtube Livestream starting at 11am New York time to get the latest updates and progress about NXT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKjCJy_J83w

Today's LIVE broadcast will include a special report from the 2014 Bitcoin conference in Amsterdam.

The guys who represented NXT at the conference did a fantastic job getting new adopters of NXT which skyrocketed the price of NXT nearly 100% in just one weekend.

The guys will share what they did, the contacts they made, and how you can learn from their experiences to help promote the NXT platform.

Don't miss this special report!

You can join the Google Hangout and update the NXT community with your current projects here:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/vjVQa1PpcFNV3yLddPHeytA-Q32IlpvdoMzRDYCwWp8=?authuser=1&eid=100018920737973592268&hl=en_US

If you do not have anything to share with the NXT community on the Google Hangout, please be courteous and use the Youtube Livestream link since there is only room for 10 participants on Google Hangouts.

Let's have some fun!

Tai Zen

Here is a link to the recording in case you missed today's exciting update from the nxt representatives at the 2014 Bitcoin Amsterdam conference:

http://nxtfoundation.com/updates/

Tai Zen

[ChuckOne]

As wesley pointed out counterparty, mastercoin and ripple do not list the asset.

Yeah, and no one uses those exchanges. We NEED to bring back the list of Assets, right now the AE is completely useless to a new user.  I can't even find a list of account ID's for the assets.  It's useful to be able to search listed Assets.  Here is a mockup by farl4bit that I think is a great way to organize:

https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-4/msg26055/#msg26055

+1440

I like the idea of alphabetical order, since there will be a lot of assets.

I like a different one (sorting by last trade).

So, we should have a way to sort by whatever people want.

[Anon136]

3 bars made so far. you can see my progress. they are getting better. once i can prove to my wife that there is demand for this i can buy a tumbler. a tumbler will allow me to polish them literally to a mirror finish. You will be able to shave with them. I need your help to make this project a success. Buy sell trade evangelize this asset. More left in the giveaway fund if you haven't received any yourself yet or know someone who is interested.

Asset Name: silver Asset ID: 7819056276221630295

[freigeist]

Anon, could you include a link in the Asset description with a realtime NXT price for 1 oz silver? E.g. get a current price, divide by bitcoin-price, divide by nxt-price. Then display that. That would be great...

I don't know how to do that but ill give 1000 nxt to the first person who can give me a little piece of code that I can insert into my web page that would maintain a constant, real time, updated price of silver in nxt. if someone wants to take this on, please use bitstamp for the price of bitcoin and bter for the price of nxt.

Hello is this offer still valid?
Do you define the silver price by your own
or you want this to be dynamic too (from real time source)

[Anon136]

Anon, could you include a link in the Asset description with a realtime NXT price for 1 oz silver? E.g. get a current price, divide by bitcoin-price, divide by nxt-price. Then display that. That would be great...

I don't know how to do that but ill give 1000 nxt to the first person who can give me a little piece of code that I can insert into my web page that would maintain a constant, real time, updated price of silver in nxt. if someone wants to take this on, please use bitstamp for the price of bitcoin and bter for the price of nxt.

Hello is this offer still valid?
Do you define the silver price by your own
or you want this to be dynamic too (from real time source)

dynamic too

[MadCow]

Want to own a piece of this? Asset ID: 7819056276221630295



Tokens should be hitting the asset exchange any minute now!

Cool! My silver bar looked so beautiful, I bet its melted by now

Initial demand was good for my tokens, but unfortunately to cover my costs I've had to sell my tokens at above the current price for silver (the price of silver also fell since I bought my bar).

I think once a few more sellers appear, and the price of silver goes back up a bit, the price for silver tokens on anon's silver gateway will track the spot price closely.

It was/is cool to feel the *power* of a monopolist for a while lol

[freigeist]

Anon, could you include a link in the Asset description with a realtime NXT price for 1 oz silver? E.g. get a current price, divide by bitcoin-price, divide by nxt-price. Then display that. That would be great...

I don't know how to do that but ill give 1000 nxt to the first person who can give me a little piece of code that I can insert into my web page that would maintain a constant, real time, updated price of silver in nxt. if someone wants to take this on, please use bitstamp for the price of bitcoin and bter for the price of nxt.

Hello is this offer still valid?
Do you define the silver price by your own
or you want this to be dynamic too (from real time source)

dynamic too

OK I have done something for you
check your PM in few minutes
Good night!

[bluemeanie1]

3 bars made so far. you can see my progress. they are getting better. once i can prove to my wife that there is demand for this i can buy a tumbler. a tumbler will allow me to polish them literally to a mirror finish. You will be able to shave with them. I need your help to make this project a success. Buy sell trade evangelize this asset. More left in the giveaway fund if you haven't received any yourself yet or know someone who is interested.

I suppose people might use your asset as a hedge against NXT volatility.  As of now, if youre a silver bug, you're the only game in town .

you might want to consider expanding your offerings to products such as what I mentioned.

-bm

[PilotofBTC]

first 2 bars ready to ship to the first person who can acquire 10 tokens

pictures will be posted shortly

I'm curious. The .1 you sent me, what does that equate to. .1 oz?

it sure does.

so how many do I need to get a bar?

-bm

10 troy ounces is the minimum order. i set it like that because i wanted to make it so simple that customers could just buy the tokens, send them to me along with their postal address and get silver. that means shipping has to be built in. which means there is a built in transfer of value from people who make smaller orders to people who make larger orders. i cant do away with that entirely without actually charging for shipping, but by setting the minimum order to 10 I mitigate it substantially. That way i can keep things super simple and my customers never even have to think about shipping.

ya that's one way to do it, probably better way is to just charge a fee if you want to cash out.

currently, your OZ is trading at 22.849 usd, which is well above spot price 19.42 usd (atow).  It's going to be hard to market that.

-bm

charge a fee in what? tell them that they have to understand some arcane fee structure in order to acquire silver? tell them that they have to send me 11 ounces of silver tokens inorder to aquire 10 ounces of silver? or that they have to send nxt also? im trying to make this simpler and more user friendly than any service that has ever come before it.

yes the price is high because right now there is only one seller. monopolies tend to yield high prices. more sellers will be coming online shortly. there are packages in transit that just haven't arrived yet.

Anon, could you include a link in the Asset description with a realtime NXT price for 1 oz silver? E.g. get a current price, divide by bitcoin-price, divide by nxt-price. Then display that. That would be great...

I don't know how to do that but ill give 1000 nxt to the first person who can give me a little piece of code that I can insert into my web page that would maintain a constant, real time, updated price of silver in nxt. if someone wants to take this on, please use bitstamp for the price of bitcoin and bter for the price of nxt.

Not a problem. I can send you something. Have friday off, I can do it then.