sava0123
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November 14, 2014, 12:27:47 PM |
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Just see what happened with bitcoindark and bbr.
I didn't follow btcd or bbr. What happened to those coins? BBR from 0.11BTC to 0.00022 and BTCD from 0.015 to 0.0048 and Volume Pump and dump scheme almost kill the coin. People get scared when they buy in pump and someone dump all the coins later to the half price which they bought earlier and they loss believe and never trust that coin again. Max for BBR is 0.0018 at coinmarketcap. Am I missing something?) Such things are happening to every coin. And it will happen to NODE. IMO. BTC - 1140 to 270, LTC - 40 to 3.5, NXT - 0.00013 to 0.000035, BTSX - 0.00009 to 0.000045 etc.. Yet all of them are still alive and have decent volume. Because they have technology, new ideas, unique features or crazy community (DOGE). BTCD is still alive as well im my opinion. Can't say much about BBR though.
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November 14, 2014, 12:31:41 PM |
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How is that so amazing? NXT´s lookin more and more like a ponzi scheme for early whales and bunch of so-called leaders...
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November 14, 2014, 12:34:47 PM |
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Just see what happened with bitcoindark and bbr.
I didn't follow btcd or bbr. What happened to those coins? BBR from 0.11BTC to 0.00022 and BTCD from 0.015 to 0.0048 and Volume Pump and dump scheme almost kill the coin. People get scared when they buy in pump and someone dump all the coins later to the half price which they bought earlier and they loss believe and never trust that coin again. Max for BBR is 0.0018 at coinmarketcap. Am I missing something?) Such things are happening to every coin. And it will happen to NODE. IMO. BTC - 1140 to 270, LTC - 40 to 3.5, NXT - 0.00013 to 0.000035, BTSX - 0.00009 to 0.000045 etc.. Yet all of them are still alive and have decent volume. Because they have technology, new ideas, unique features or crazy community (DOGE). BTCD is still alive as well im my opinion. Can't say much about BBR though. yeah sorry BBR was 0.0012 when i was trading not 0.12 But you should check the volume, BBR almost has no Volume now it means no interest.
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sava0123
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November 14, 2014, 12:50:55 PM |
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yeah sorry BBR was 0.0012 when i was trading not 0.12 But you should check the volume, BBR almost has no Volume now it means no interest. I saw. Yes, no interest. But it is devs and community fault. Not just because it was pumed and dumped. Image how people who bougth BTC at 1140 feel now. And what? $44,984,500 current daily volume. We should separate market speculations and actual value and innovation of coin. Yes, it can be hyped as shit and then dumped to the grounds. But it can't be killed by that if it has some real value, techology. And yes, in 4 of 5 cases you will face some scam newbie dev team which will do the same pumd/dump (or ICO) sceme on their new week-coin and it will be dead after that. But it doesn't mean that some real, good coins after similiar pump/dump will perish as well.
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November 14, 2014, 12:56:48 PM |
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Just see what happened with bitcoindark and bbr.
I didn't follow btcd or bbr. What happened to those coins? BBR from 0.11BTC to 0.00022 and BTCD from 0.015 to 0.0048 and Volume Pump and dump scheme almost kill the coin. People get scared when they buy in pump and someone dump all the coins later to the half price which they bought earlier and they loss believe and never trust that coin again. Max for BBR is 0.0018 at coinmarketcap. Am I missing something?) Such things are happening to every coin. And it will happen to NODE. IMO. BTC - 1140 to 270, LTC - 40 to 3.5, NXT - 0.00013 to 0.000035, BTSX - 0.00009 to 0.000045 etc.. Yet all of them are still alive and have decent volume. Because they have technology, new ideas, unique features or crazy community (DOGE). BTCD is still alive as well im my opinion. Can't say much about BBR though. It's a hard time. It will get better.
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November 14, 2014, 01:01:09 PM |
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yeah sorry BBR was 0.0012 when i was trading not 0.12 But you should check the volume, BBR almost has no Volume now it means no interest. I saw. Yes, no interest. But it is devs and community fault. Now just because it was pumed and dumped. Image how people who bougth BTC at 1140 feel now. And what? $44,984,500 current daily volume. We should separate market speculations and actual value and innovation of coin. Yes, it can be hyped as shit and then dumped to the grounds. But it can't be killed by that if it has some real value, techology. And yes, in 4 of 5 cases you will face some scam newbie dev team which will do the same pumd/dump (or ICO) sceme on their new week-coin and it will be dead after that. But it doesn't mean that some real, good coins after similiar pump/dump will perish as well. You cant compare BTC with BBR, BTC was entirely a different case, jl777 personally said that he bought cheap bbr and then comes the supernet pump and hype and after that we all know what happened. BTC was also hyped but people believed in technology and also the sudden increase in price was not because of one single entity.
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sava0123
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November 14, 2014, 01:10:17 PM |
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You cant compare BTC with BBR, BTC was entirely a different case, jl777 personally said that he bought cheap bbr and then comes the supernet pump and hype and after that we all know what happened. BTC was also hyped but people believed in technology and also the sudden increase in price was not because of one single entity.
But jl777 not always makes good desisions. He also bought FunBotAsset on NXT AE, for instance, which turned to be a scam. So? Is it his fault that people blindly follow his moves? He is not a god. Just realy great and honest dev. IMO Plus from your words I understood it like he sold all of his BBR which was bought right after hype. Are you sure about it?
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November 14, 2014, 01:12:56 PM |
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sell order for 2 mill just appeared at 90 , Are you ok ?
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I have to get back all the lost .
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November 14, 2014, 01:22:28 PM |
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November 14, 2014, 01:26:18 PM |
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You cant compare BTC with BBR, BTC was entirely a different case, jl777 personally said that he bought cheap bbr and then comes the supernet pump and hype and after that we all know what happened. BTC was also hyped but people believed in technology and also the sudden increase in price was not because of one single entity.
But jl777 not always makes good desisions. He also bought FunBotAsset on NXT AE, for instance, which turned to be a scam. So? Is it his fault that people blindly follow his moves? He is not a god. Just realy great and honest dev. IMO Plus from your words I understood it like he sold all of his BBR which was bought right after hype. Are you sure about it? He intentionally pumped BBR and BTCD, i think you dont follow him much? excited how supernet integration will do, james has been absent in this thread for a while..
He's been absent in the market, too. Absent, or on the sell side? He who pumpeth, shalt dumpeth away! I know you're probably joking but I'm almost certain that none of the selling is associated with jl777. If you are not 100% sure why comment then? Sockpuppet I've pretty busing coding: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.msg9313397#msg9313397James P.S. I have never used any sockpuppet You have traders to sell. You are not one man show, your word says nothing in this matter, sorry. Klee said something and its look like he was correct.
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November 14, 2014, 01:31:10 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed?
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AhmedAshraf
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November 14, 2014, 01:32:09 PM |
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What this app do? Just for news reading? Yes ! Could you please test it.
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sava0123
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November 14, 2014, 01:42:54 PM |
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He intentionally pumped BBR and BTCD, i think you dont follow him much?
No I didn't. Thanks.
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rramires
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November 14, 2014, 01:43:17 PM |
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What this app do? Just for news reading? Yes ! Could you please test it. I'll try later at home on windows 10.
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November 14, 2014, 01:48:42 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA
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November 14, 2014, 01:49:59 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA Looks like so, there should be some kind of function where the same account could not forge next 10 blocks if there are more than 10 peers.
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sava0123
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November 14, 2014, 01:55:16 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA Looks like so, there should be some kind of function where the same account could not forge next 10 blocks if there are more than 10 peers. I already said those are mines accs. FYI I made today only 2 txs, each 30k. POA working. Noone makes txs.
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rramires
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November 14, 2014, 02:18:01 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA Looks like so, there should be some kind of function where the same account could not forge next 10 blocks if there are more than 10 peers. I already said those are mines accs. FYI I made today only 2 txs, each 30k. POA working. Noone makes txs. We will try: Would not it be interesting to add a weight depending on the volume traded in each transaction. The formula that is available? I would like to analyze.
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November 14, 2014, 02:22:17 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA Looks like so, there should be some kind of function where the same account could not forge next 10 blocks if there are more than 10 peers. I already said those are mines accs. FYI I made today only 2 txs, each 30k. POA working. Noone makes txs. We will try: Would not it be interesting to add a weight depending on the volume traded in each transaction. The formula that is available? I would like to analyze. so, to try must have minimum 2 account with balance 500k each and you must have total 1 million node, right?
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rramires
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November 14, 2014, 02:26:11 PM |
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I noticed, that only two accounts forging last blocks. Can we state, that NODE PoA is easy gamed? i don't know. somebody out there take advantage with Node POA Looks like so, there should be some kind of function where the same account could not forge next 10 blocks if there are more than 10 peers. I already said those are mines accs. FYI I made today only 2 txs, each 30k. POA working. Noone makes txs. We will try: Would not it be interesting to add a weight depending on the volume traded in each transaction. The formula that is available? I would like to analyze. so, to try must have minimum 2 account with balance 500k each and you must have total 1 million node, right? Yeep. It has 820k and 519k.
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