Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?

[marcus_of_augustus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0

This is why we can never know who Satoshi is.

So we can all get crucified? 

Only the disciples, fed to the lions in Guantanamo for any other evil-doers spreading the word.

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[charleshoskinson]

I'm glad you missed the entire dramatic point of Spartacus. I am sad now

[gollum]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

[Este Nuno]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

Nah, it's a lot easier than that for him to prove it was him. He would just sign a message with his PGP key and that would confirm it.

[QuantPlus]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

He must be a well-known person...
Who previously developed a complex distributed network IN THE REAL WORLD...
No one just comes out of no where and designs BTC on a napkin...
"Graduate students" don't know shit...
That's why the eDonkey thing is such a great clue.

[QuantPlus]

That's why the eDonkey thing is such a great clue.

Oh come on, seriously? Jed didn't even design MtGox to use true decimal arithmetic. He needed to be (figuratively) dragged kicking and screaming away from his floats. No way he had anything to do with the design of Bitcoin.

Didn't say he did.

But the person who designed Bitcoin didn't just pull it out of his ass...
He must of designed something serious in the Real World previously...
And made a lot of mistakes, etc...

It's usually your 3rd or 4th business that hits...
Your 1st business becoming a hot startup is a complete myth.
 
You don't just design the iPhone in "grad school"...
Jobs took 30 years to go Apple II, Mac, Next, Pixar, iPhone.

[organofcorti]

That's why the eDonkey thing is such a great clue.

Oh come on, seriously? Jed didn't even design MtGox to use true decimal arithmetic. He needed to be (figuratively) dragged kicking and screaming away from his floats. No way he had anything to do with the design of Bitcoin.

Didn't say he did.

But the person who designed Bitcoin didn't just pull it out of his ass...
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Exactly. Because if he did, we'd have buttcoins instead.

[GerMG]

Jason biggs is Satoshi!!!

http://media.avclub.com/images/392/392421/16x9/627.jpg%3F4746

[QuantPlus]

But the person who designed Bitcoin didn't just pull it out of his ass...
He must of designed something serious in the Real World previously...
And made a lot of mistakes, etc...

I'm a software engineer whose run a business for 15 years.

My point is that Bitcoin was not only brilliant and new technologically...
It was even MORE brilliant as a very devious, Ponzi-like business idea...
The way All Roads Lead To First Adopters Getting Rich.

A business novice could not design Bitcoin.

If "no one" knows who Satoshi is...
Then that is actually scary...
Because then you have to seriously consider "conspiracy" things...
Like the NSA floating this as an experiment that caught fire...
The NSA has more talent than Google or some "grad school".

[GerMG]

But the person who designed Bitcoin didn't just pull it out of his ass...
He must of designed something serious in the Real World previously...
And made a lot of mistakes, etc...

I'm a software engineer whose run a business for 15 years.

My point is that Bitcoin was not only brilliant and new technologically...
It was even MORE brilliant as a very devious, Ponzi-like business idea...
The way All Roads Lead To First Adopters Getting Rich.

A business novice could not design Bitcoin.

If "no one" knows who Satoshi is...
Then that is actually scary...
Because then you have to seriously consider "conspiracy" things...
Like the NSA floating this as an experiment that caught fire...
The NSA has more talent than Google or some "grad school".

i found out about bitcoin in 2009 so far i made 2000+ coins.
ist just true who early joined in/mined made good.

[charleshoskinson]

Satoshi will never come forward. He has absolutely no incentive and incentives to keep himself anonymous. First, there are legal concerns with his creation that are both complex and difficult to manage. Second, it would hurt the bitcoin by attaching a face to something that shouldn't have one. Third, it would fracture the community into pro-satoshi and anti-satoshi people.

It won't happen guys

[noedaRDH]

Satoshi will never come forward. He has absolutely no incentive and incentives to keep himself anonymous. First, there are legal concerns with his creation that are both complex and difficult to manage. Second, it would hurt the bitcoin by attaching a face to something that shouldn't have one. Third, it would fracture the community into pro-satoshi and anti-satoshi people.

It won't happen guys

Satoshi Nakamoto = Sat.N = Satan. 

[mugdesign]

It the guy does not want to be famous, he is smart enough to hide.....

[melvster]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

Nah, it's a lot easier than that for him to prove it was him. He would just sign a message with his PGP key and that would confirm it.

GPG sig is not proof.

He's fairly recognizable by his writing style and knowledge.  People of Satoshi's genius only come along a few times a generation.

And he still probably knows more about bitcoin than anyone else.

He's either hiding, or was made an offer he could not refuse.

[melvster]

Satoshi will never come forward. He has absolutely no incentive and incentives to keep himself anonymous. First, there are legal concerns with his creation that are both complex and difficult to manage. Second, it would hurt the bitcoin by attaching a face to something that shouldn't have one. Third, it would fracture the community into pro-satoshi and anti-satoshi people.

It won't happen guys

Satoshi Nakamoto = Sat.N = Satan. 

Keep playing with those letters.  If there's one thing that mathematicians love more than crypto, it's anagrams and wordplays

[World]

Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Identified?

[vokain]

I just wonder what he could possibly be working on now...

[DiamondCardz]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

Nah, it's a lot easier than that for him to prove it was him. He would just sign a message with his PGP key and that would confirm it.

GPG sig is not proof.

He's fairly recognizable by his writing style and knowledge.  People of Satoshi's genius only come along a few times a generation.

And he still probably knows more about bitcoin than anyone else.

He's either hiding, or was made an offer he could not refuse.

Well said, my friend.

+cointip melvster 1 sPPC

[BTC Books]

Satoshi is certainly here and observing how his baby is developing.
When the world has accepted bitcoin, he might reveal his true identity.

If someone claimed he is Satoshi, would you believe him?

To prove his identity he needs to at least:
-send one bitcoin from his original wallet to a new wallet.
-discuss cryptography with experts so his competency can be proven
-show personal projects, documents and mail conversations that has not been publicized yet

Nah, it's a lot easier than that for him to prove it was him. He would just sign a message with his PGP key and that would confirm it.

GPG sig is not proof.

He's fairly recognizable by his writing style and knowledge.  People of Satoshi's genius only come along a few times a generation.

And he still probably knows more about bitcoin than anyone else.

He's either hiding, or was made an offer he could not refuse.

No.

1. Key signing is the closest there is to unimpeachable proof.  That's what it's for.

2. Writing style and knowledge are no more evidence than any other quasi-scientific metric:  galvanic lie-detectors, for example.  Writing style can be faked.  Easily.  There is software that will check your fakery for you.

3. Satoshi manifestly does not know more about bitcoin than anyone else.  At the moment, the person who does would be Gavin.  Satoshi hasn't touched the code for over two years.  Please...

4. There are any number of explanations for why Satoshi left, and for what he is doing right now.  And why.  'Hiding' and 'made an offer he couldn't refuse' are the stuff of wild conspiracies.  Maybe he has a sense of humor?  Or perhaps he's just waiting to cash out responsibly without damaging the value too badly?

4b. What about this:  what if his hard drive totally crashed and the dog ate his paper backups?  What if he lost every bitcoin he ever mined, and is more fucking embarrassed than any human in all of history has ever been?

[threeip]

What if he's dead?