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May 28, 2014, 12:37:57 AM
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Please stop using the thread for fighting with IE. Use PM or twitter. This is not helping XLB. And IE: GTFO - Means you are not welcome here! Thank you.

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Templar77 Official Statement below LOCK THE THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






[Draft]
Official Statement regarding the event occurred today and the future of Libertycoin

What happened?
This morning (CST), one of our members changed the password of the Bitcointalk account. A few hours after that, we got a message from Iconic Expert threatening to fork Libertycoin and start a new thread because we had changed the password. Obviously, that sounded nuts. After that, he joined the IRC channel where I (Templar77) already had been for a few hours. He said he was trying to work for Libertycoin but I was always in his way. I asked him what was the problem, but he never answered that. I even told him that I still wanted to collaborate with him, but he said he was done with Libertycoin and he left.
After that, the price plumbed to from 12k satoshi to 5k satoshi.

How Iconic Expert got involved in Libertycoin
We gave him access to the Bitcointalk account almost a week ago. His task was to ‘promote’ Libertycoin. When we received him we were not well informed of what he had done in the Blackcoin community.
All the week when he was involved our thread was flooded with attacks against him. In the beginning, we didn’t give much importance to those posts for we thought it was coming from trolls, but days passed and the attacks against him never stopped, so we decided to investigate more about him.

Iconic Expert
Christopher Bouzy, aka Iconic Expert, received Blackcoin donations to ‘make’ an event in Wall Street, but then he cancelled it and never gave back the money to the people. Basically, he said he was leaving Blackcoin and launching his own coin, but never returned the money.
We have confirmed so far that he uses other ‘proxy’ accounts, like Barabbas, to post in Bitcointalk and Twitter.

The price fall
So what has changed in Libertycoin? Nothing, Libertycoin is the same coin that was yesterday, and the day before, so there is really no reason for a reduction in the price. Libertycoin is now stronger because we got rid of a known scammer.
We obviously do not have all the answers for what caused the price fall, but we can say it is very likely that Iconic Expert dumping all his coins and all the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) he caused with his ‘proxy’ accounts.
Iconic Expert bough in probably around 1,000 – 2,000 satoshi so he probably had a big amount of coins.

Anonymity
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (past)
As you might now, we offered a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB to implement any kind of anonymity in the Libertycoin protocol. Almost a week ago, Tranzium and others started developing it. A standalone version was set up here: http://cosmiclottery.com/libertycoin/
Around two days ago, we received an email from the team working on that implementation saying they could not finish the work because they were struggling to implement it into the wallet/daemon, so we keep waiting for them and finish it while finding someone else to do the job.
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (today)
Today Polzki contacted us with a possible solution. He says he knows the CEO of a programming company in China, so they can help us develop a new and innovative anonymity function for the Libertycoin protocol.
The website of the company: http://www.synv.com/
At 1:50 pm (China) he will be talking to the CEO of the company.
The CEO is his friend so he might make us a huge discount for it, but we will also support him with the bounty we raised if it is needed.
They will use Tranzium's code, so they won't start from zero.


The development team
From now, loljosh, Polzki and I (Templar77) will have predominant roll in the development of this coin.
I personally don’t have anything to hide; I say this because Iconic Expert things he can attack me publishing my personal information.
My personal Information is easily acquired because I as I mentioned I have nothing to hide. My name is Carlos from Mexico and I am a Economics and Political Science student but I am also a self-taught person in programming. It’s just information that you can easily google.

Proof-of-ownership
I own 312,000 Libertycoins which I bought with my own money in various moments, some of them even when XLB was trading at 600 satoshi. I have moved 300,000 coins to the address below:
LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
I show you that so you know how much I believe in this coin. I’m not planning to ‘dump’ any time soon. I’ll keep the coins in that address, and I don’t plan to move them for I’m a terrible trader.

Scam accusations
In recent days, a thread was made saying Libertycoin is a scam coin, but that, of couse, lacks of any logic or fundament.
-Libertycoin was pre-announced almost two days it was launched, so it was not ‘ninja-launched’.
-Libertycoin didn’t have a single premined block.
-Libertycoin was mined for four days.
-The network reached almost 80 Gh/s which means thousands of miners when mining.

I own a miner with 200 Kh/s so if I own Libertycoin is because I bought them. I have the right to buy any coin I want and make use of it in any way. I this case I invested in Libertycoin because I believe in it as a long term investment. I have provided you my address, so you can ‘monitor’ it if you like.

The future
As I mentioned above I believe in Libertycoin as a long term investment, for that reason I have the following projects planned.
Liberty Labs
In a couple of days, I will be registering my startup that will be dedicated to create and offer services for Libertycoin and Bitcoin, especially in Latin America.
Liberator operation
I am planning to set up ATMs in Mexico City using the machines from http://projectskyhook.com . This ATMs will work both for Bitcoin and Libertycoin. This ‘operation’ should bring a lot of attention from the media for these will first ATMs in Mexico City, and Libertycoin will be one of the few altcoins that have this kind of infrastructure.
In the future, I could ‘deploy’ more ATMs in other countries such as Panama and Argentina.
Exchange
The other thing I’ve been working for months, is to create a Bitcoin/FIAT exchange for Mexico. I have got all the legal stuff done but the ‘platform’ is still under developments and should be launching in less than 3 months. I’m planning to add Libertycoin to this project as well.

My vision of cryptocurrency and Libertycoin
Many people may have problems with my ideology/vision of cryptocurrencies. I describe myself as a Libertarian and maybe a crypto anarchist. I believe in total decentralization, so I usually struggle with the concept of ‘dev tem’ taking care of absolutely everything in a coin.
I hate when people blame the ‘dev team’ for a given price in the market. It’s not the job of a dev to care about the price. If the price falls is not our fault or our job to make it rise. That’s just pump and dump coins behavior. I cannot type sudo apt-get price $1 and make the price rise. It’s a free market. If you want a coin’s price to rise you have to work for it and not just depend on the ‘dev team’.


Many people struggle with idea:
I do not thing that what people call ‘innovation’ is needed for a coin to succeed. It only needs hard work, a good name, time and a good community.
Litecoin is the proof of that. It is just a copy of Tenebrix and Fairbrix with no innovations at all and yet it stands as the second biggest cryptocurrency.
We can say the same for Dogecoin, Zetacoin, Feathercoin, and many others.
Even Blackcoin is just a copy of Novacoin with just simple tweaks. It provides no innovation at all.
Darkcoin is another good example, it was not the first anonymous coin and they don’t even delivered what they promised: a decentralized anon feature. It’s totally centralized.
In my opinion, name is king. With a name like ‘Libertycoin’ we should be able to have more success than coins like Darkcoin. ‘Real life’ businesses will never say “Darkcoin acceted here’. They will rather prefer more friendly names.
We will implement anonymity because the community asked for it, but I don’t believe it’s primordial for Libertycoin to succed.


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May 28, 2014, 12:38:23 AM
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Come on guys, let's solve the problem rather than win the fight.  Cry
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May 28, 2014, 12:43:46 AM
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After everything that happened today I still can not understand two things:

1- Why this topic is infested Blackcoin Fanboys ?

2 - If "Templar77" is the Lybertycoin DEV and he also built Cinni. Why Rat4 the creator of Blackcoin helped Cinni? It´s very strange for me. Does anyone notice this important detail? Tic ... Tic ... Tic
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May 28, 2014, 12:47:41 AM
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Can we just keep templar77 statement at the bottom for all to see? should have been locked IMMEDIATELY after it was released. EVERYTHING after solved absolutely nothing.

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May 28, 2014, 12:49:20 AM
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I hope everyone realize the IE didn't make make this coin a success the community did. It is the community that formed because they believed in the coin. The device did nothing wrong and everyone can see the IE lies through his teeth. Even know all he is doing is bad mouthing people.

The same community that made the coin a success at the start is still here. Yes the trolls have come in to make it appear the coin is doing bad.. but it's not!

So look past all the bs and drama and take a look at the progress the dev has made!

Liberty Coin will rise from the ashes! Because liberty never dies!
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May 28, 2014, 12:49:35 AM
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Today I learned that everyone on bitcointalk is a multimillionaire that gets tons of bitches.

LOL That was awesome.  
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After everything that happened today I still can not understand two things:

1- Why this topic is infested Blackcoin Fanboys ?

2 - If "Templar77" is the Lybertycoin DEV and he also built Cinni. Why Rat4 the creator of Blackcoin helped Cinni? It´s very strange for me. Does anyone notice this important detail? Tic ... Tic ... Tic
Huh



BINGO!!!! Some people are too stupid and/or blind to see what is going on here. The XLB IRC channel was packed with core BC supporters this morning while the dump was happening. Wiz and HardwarePal started dumping yesterday. Wiz posted in this forum "A big dump is coming".
lol how desperate can you be lets see when u sold all you're xlb lets see when you and troiste dumped all you're xlb LOL we already know you and troiste were the first to buy in and start promoting........... finished off with a bang now you're trying to spin the story reason why BC fanboys are following you is cause you stole from them.....

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After everything that happened today I still can not understand two things:

1- Why this topic is infested Blackcoin Fanboys ?

2 - If "Templar77" is the Lybertycoin DEV and he also built Cinni. Why Rat4 the creator of Blackcoin helped Cinni? It´s very strange for me. Does anyone notice this important detail? Tic ... Tic ... Tic
Huh



BINGO!!!! Some people are too stupid and/or blind to see what is going on here. The XLB IRC channel was packed with core BC supporters this morning while the dump was happening. Wiz and HardwarePal started dumping yesterday. Wiz posted in this forum "A big dump is coming".

Was always under the impression that Templar77 was a graphics designer for hire. He did the Cinni logo & background for their old ann, probably blackcoin since they used to look the same (logo) and this coin's logo and assuming all the other graphics for liberty. insofar as actual coding involvement, I have no idea.  
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May 28, 2014, 01:00:36 AM
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Who would you believe?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6573921#msg6573921

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[Draft]
Official Statement regarding the event occurred today and the future of Libertycoin

What happened?
This morning (CST), one of our members changed the password of the Bitcointalk account. A few hours after that, we got a message from Iconic Expert threatening to fork Libertycoin and start a new thread because we had changed the password. Obviously, that sounded nuts. After that, he joined the IRC channel where I (Templar77) already had been for a few hours. He said he was trying to work for Libertycoin but I was always in his way. I asked him what was the problem, but he never answered that. I even told him that I still wanted to collaborate with him, but he said he was done with Libertycoin and he left.
After that, the price plumbed to from 12k satoshi to 5k satoshi.

How Iconic Expert got involved in Libertycoin
We gave him access to the Bitcointalk account almost a week ago. His task was to ‘promote’ Libertycoin. When we received him we were not well informed of what he had done in the Blackcoin community.
All the week when he was involved our thread was flooded with attacks against him. In the beginning, we didn’t give much importance to those posts for we thought it was coming from trolls, but days passed and the attacks against him never stopped, so we decided to investigate more about him.

Iconic Expert
Christopher Bouzy, aka Iconic Expert, received Blackcoin donations to ‘make’ an event in Wall Street, but then he cancelled it and never gave back the money to the people. Basically, he said he was leaving Blackcoin and launching his own coin, but never returned the money.
We have confirmed so far that he uses other ‘proxy’ accounts, like Barabbas, to post in Bitcointalk and Twitter.

The price fall
So what has changed in Libertycoin? Nothing, Libertycoin is the same coin that was yesterday, and the day before, so there is really no reason for a reduction in the price. Libertycoin is now stronger because we got rid of a known scammer.
We obviously do not have all the answers for what caused the price fall, but we can say it is very likely that Iconic Expert dumping all his coins and all the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) he caused with his ‘proxy’ accounts.
Iconic Expert bough in probably around 1,000 – 2,000 satoshi so he probably had a big amount of coins.

Anonymity
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (past)
As you might now, we offered a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB to implement any kind of anonymity in the Libertycoin protocol. Almost a week ago, Tranzium and others started developing it. A standalone version was set up here: http://cosmiclottery.com/libertycoin/
Around two days ago, we received an email from the team working on that implementation saying they could not finish the work because they were struggling to implement it into the wallet/daemon, so we keep waiting for them and finish it while finding someone else to do the job.
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (today)
Today Polzki contacted us with a possible solution. He says he knows the CEO of a programming company in China, so they can help us develop a new and innovative anonymity function for the Libertycoin protocol.
The website of the company: http://www.synv.com/
At 1:50 pm (China) he will be talking to the CEO of the company.
The CEO is his friend so he might make us a huge discount for it, but we will also support him with the bounty we raised if it is needed.
They will use Tranzium's code, so they won't start from zero.


The development team
From now, loljosh, Polzki and I (Templar77) will have predominant roll in the development of this coin.
I personally don’t have anything to hide; I say this because Iconic Expert things he can attack me publishing my personal information.
My personal Information is easily acquired because I as I mentioned I have nothing to hide. My name is Carlos from Mexico and I am a Economics and Political Science student but I am also a self-taught person in programming. It’s just information that you can easily google.

Proof-of-ownership
I own 312,000 Libertycoins which I bought with my own money in various moments, some of them even when XLB was trading at 600 satoshi. I have moved 300,000 coins to the address below:
LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
I show you that so you know how much I believe in this coin. I’m not planning to ‘dump’ any time soon. I’ll keep the coins in that address, and I don’t plan to move them for I’m a terrible trader.

Scam accusations
In recent days, a thread was made saying Libertycoin is a scam coin, but that, of couse, lacks of any logic or fundament.
-Libertycoin was pre-announced almost two days it was launched, so it was not ‘ninja-launched’.
-Libertycoin didn’t have a single premined block.
-Libertycoin was mined for four days.
-The network reached almost 80 Gh/s which means thousands of miners when mining.

I own a miner with 200 Kh/s so if I own Libertycoin is because I bought them. I have the right to buy any coin I want and make use of it in any way. I this case I invested in Libertycoin because I believe in it as a long term investment. I have provided you my address, so you can ‘monitor’ it if you like.

The future
As I mentioned above I believe in Libertycoin as a long term investment, for that reason I have the following projects planned.
Liberty Labs
In a couple of days, I will be registering my startup that will be dedicated to create and offer services for Libertycoin and Bitcoin, especially in Latin America.
Liberator operation
I am planning to set up ATMs in Mexico City using the machines from http://projectskyhook.com . This ATMs will work both for Bitcoin and Libertycoin. This ‘operation’ should bring a lot of attention from the media for these will first ATMs in Mexico City, and Libertycoin will be one of the few altcoins that have this kind of infrastructure.
In the future, I could ‘deploy’ more ATMs in other countries such as Panama and Argentina.
Exchange
The other thing I’ve been working for months, is to create a Bitcoin/FIAT exchange for Mexico. I have got all the legal stuff done but the ‘platform’ is still under developments and should be launching in less than 3 months. I’m planning to add Libertycoin to this project as well.

My vision of cryptocurrency and Libertycoin
Many people may have problems with my ideology/vision of cryptocurrencies. I describe myself as a Libertarian and maybe a crypto anarchist. I believe in total decentralization, so I usually struggle with the concept of ‘dev tem’ taking care of absolutely everything in a coin.
I hate when people blame the ‘dev team’ for a given price in the market. It’s not the job of a dev to care about the price. If the price falls is not our fault or our job to make it rise. That’s just pump and dump coins behavior. I cannot type sudo apt-get price $1 and make the price rise. It’s a free market. If you want a coin’s price to rise you have to work for it and not just depend on the ‘dev team’.


Many people struggle with idea:
I do not thing that what people call ‘innovation’ is needed for a coin to succeed. It only needs hard work, a good name, time and a good community.
Litecoin is the proof of that. It is just a copy of Tenebrix and Fairbrix with no innovations at all and yet it stands as the second biggest cryptocurrency.
We can say the same for Dogecoin, Zetacoin, Feathercoin, and many others.
Even Blackcoin is just a copy of Novacoin with just simple tweaks. It provides no innovation at all.
Darkcoin is another good example, it was not the first anonymous coin and they don’t even delivered what they promised: a decentralized anon feature. It’s totally centralized.
In my opinion, name is king. With a name like ‘Libertycoin’ we should be able to have more success than coins like Darkcoin. ‘Real life’ businesses will never say “Darkcoin acceted here’. They will rather prefer more friendly names.
We will implement anonymity because the community asked for it, but I don’t believe it’s primordial for Libertycoin to succed.


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May 28, 2014, 01:03:05 AM
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Some random idiot posts something that is baseless.






Does that look like a lie to you? This coin is DEAD. The dev has already moved on and is just trying to dup the last bit of his coins.

It looks like Wizfarm and HardwarePal dumped and you got upset and started threatening people. They represent BC more than XLB, that was already to be expected. You fueled the fire by going nuts about a DUMP!!!!!one!!11!!!   I dont see any evidence that the actual Dev in question did anything other than try to prevent you from taking full control of his coin in a hostile takeover. If you think anything other than that happened you are completely delusional.
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Some random idiot posts something that is baseless.


https://i.imgur.com/CjQivU6.png

https://i.imgur.com/J3oa9Wg.png

Does that look like a lie to you? This coin is DEAD. The dev has already moved on and is just trying to dup the last bit of his coins.

Nope, it sounds like somebody being reasonable and you spitting the dummy.

You made an announcement saying you were taking over as LEAD DEV of the coin, without even apparently speaking to the existing dev's about it beforehand. Then when they refuse to go along with your blatant coup and request more dialog with you (IRC logs back this up) you resort to threats, tell them to go fuck themselves and say you are 'forking' the coin.

Then you post to twitter how nasty the devs are, and how they are dumping, and tell everyone that you are out and to dump the coin.

The only one that dumped was you. You're a scam artist who blames everyone else as a way of directing attention away from your own blatant bullshit.

Hopefully, everybody is wise to your behaviour now, and you won't have another chance to fuck up another coin or start drama anywhere else. Seriously, you are one shady and consistently poisonous personality. Everything you touch ends with the same outcome. Go away, and never come back.
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May 28, 2014, 01:07:05 AM
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Some random idiot posts something that is baseless.






Does that look like a lie to you? This coin is DEAD. The dev has already moved on and is just trying to dup the last bit of his coins.

Nope, it sounds like somebody being reasonable and you spitting the dummy.

You made an announcement saying you were taking over as LEAD DEV of the coin, without even apparently speaking to the existing dev's about it beforehand. Then when they refuse to go along with your blatant coup and request more dialog with you (IRC logs back this up) you resort to threats, tell them to go fuck themselves and say you are 'forking' the coin.

Then you post to twitter how nasty the devs are, and how they are dumping, and tell everyone that you are out and to dump the coin.

The only one that dumped is you. You're a scam artist who blames everyone else as a way of directing attention away from your own blatant bullshit.

Hopefully, everybody is wise to your behaviour now, and you won't have another chance to fuck up another coin or start drama anywhere else. Seriously, you are one shady and consistently poisonous personality. Everything you touch ends with the same outcome. Go away, and never come back.

His old tactic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6573921#msg6573921

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May 28, 2014, 01:08:50 AM
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Some random idiot posts something that is baseless.


https://i.imgur.com/CjQivU6.png

https://i.imgur.com/J3oa9Wg.png

Does that look like a lie to you? This coin is DEAD. The dev has already moved on and is just trying to dup the last bit of his coins.

Nope, it sounds like somebody being reasonable and you spitting the dummy.

You made an announcement saying you were taking over as LEAD DEV of the coin, without even apparently speaking to the existing dev's about it beforehand. Then when they refuse to go along with your blatant coup and request more dialog with you (IRC logs back this up) you resort to threats, tell them to go fuck themselves and say you are 'forking' the coin.

Then you post to twitter how nasty the devs are, and how they are dumping, and tell everyone that you are out and to dump the coin.

The only one that dumped is you. You're a scam artist who blames everyone else as a way of directing attention away from your own blatant bullshit.

Hopefully, everybody is wise to your behaviour now, and you won't have another chance to fuck up another coin or start drama anywhere else. Seriously, you are one shady and consistently poisonous personality. Everything you touch ends with the same outcome. Go away, and never come back.

His old tactic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6573921#msg6573921

I.E you are scum bro!!! Now go away before I come find you!!!!
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May 28, 2014, 01:11:46 AM
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So LibertyCoin is safe? Cheesy 
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May 28, 2014, 01:15:27 AM
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yes very safe.. put all your btc in it..
or just gave them to IE
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May 28, 2014, 01:15:57 AM
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I said before, im here for the long Haul . Support from here on out? Sounds like the plan of a potentially successful coin to me. Always has been, Had HUGE community support. How can you let ONE bonehead ruin something good.

Vootcoin!
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May 28, 2014, 01:16:45 AM
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yes very safe.. put all your btc in it..
or just gave them to IE

But who is IE and who is LibertyCoin?


Please explain me, because i see war, But nobody told who is who right now?
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May 28, 2014, 01:18:16 AM
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Looks like the scum bag I.E pulls this shit all the time..

This was on May 6th https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6573921#msg6573921
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May 28, 2014, 01:22:23 AM
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To my troll friends from BC. Your ever burning hate consumes you and it shows. Get over it, BC is my past. Following me around a forum is not going to bring you closure, it just shows how needy you are for resolution. Each time you hold and use your BC cards you are holding something I created and it pisses you off. I will always be a part of BC whether you like it or not so the joke is on you


Trolls for XLB. People were only here supporting this coin because I was here, period. When I left, they all left. This coin is dead and anyone buying XLB is either stupid and/or greedy. There will not be a comeback or a resurrection because the dev never intended for this coin to succeed. We were ALL scammed including me, and now I will move on.


LOL, as i said before lets see when you and troiste dumped............ FUCKTARD

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