[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[cryptodevil]

You Do Not Have To Encrypt/Unencrypt anything to Get Any Wallet To Stake Whatsoever!!!

Every PoS wallet I've used requires you to unlock it for staking. What makes you believe otherwise?

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[BadAss.Sx]

I've been here a VERI long time and I am telling you for myself it DOES NOT stake properly.

Date Registered:    June 05, 2014, 04:37:59 PM

 

Fudders are back again?

[qawzsx]

Paying directly from the exchange is already 100% anonymous

Except for all the information that links you to your exchange account. Even if it's just an email account, that account links on to somewhere else where it has been used to register an account for you on another unrelated service and so on, whereby, over time you gave your name or a delivery address for some goods to a supplier and, bingo, that Exchange address now clearly belongs to you and any payments sent from it are, indeed, linked to you.

Yes, yes, you might have used TOR and a disposable Email address when you registered for your exchange account and all the other guff that nobody with nothing worth hiding bothers with. If so, then why bother complaining that this service does nothing for you when it clearly does a ton for everybody else.

All I'm saying is that I don't see how VeriBit is useful at all to drive that much fee in the dev's pocket... I mean... 1%... for real now
If you want to pay for something that accepts BTC, just exchange some VRC for BTC and pay with BTC...is that simple...

Its not about anonymity here, I was just answering to somebody's else point of view...

[qawzsx]

Paying directly from the exchange is already 100% anonymous since nobody can link that payment to any of my personal information, so this gets out of question from the start.

Why being in this topic after all?

Is this how you treat new ppl who have some concerns?
You just ask them "wtf are you here anyway if you don't like something?"...

Very mature...

[sesko]

I've been here a VERI long time and I am telling you for myself it DOES NOT stake properly.

Date Registered:    June 05, 2014, 04:37:59 PM

 

Fudders are back again?

Yeah really long time hehe, lol, come on fudster you can do better than these, this is to easy even newbies can see past that futile fuding.

[cryptodevil]

I don't see how VeriBit is useful at all to drive that much fee in the dev's pocket... I mean... 1%... for real now

I believe it is 0.1% not 1%

[PUMPBANDIT]

Every PoS wallet I've used requires you to unlock it for staking. What makes you believe otherwise?

Don't mix my words.
Yes it needs to be unlocked, but if it wasn't locked to start with your point?

Re: Me a fudder, you are a tool!
My posts on Veri go back 4 weeks ya diphead.


All these "NEW" people attacking people with concerns and saying they are Fudders are making Veri start to stink, pull your heads in and address concerns!

[qawzsx]

I don't see how VeriBit is useful at all to drive that much fee in the dev's pocket... I mean... 1%... for real now

I believe it is 0.1% not 1%

No, its 1%, read again

[BadAss.Sx]

Every PoS wallet I've used requires you to unlock it for staking. What makes you believe otherwise?

Don't mix my words.
Yes it needs to be unlocked, but if it wasn't locked to start with your point?

Re: Me a fudder, you are a tool!
My posts on Veri go back 4 weeks ya diphead.

You need a towel for your tears?

[cryptodevil]

Every PoS wallet I've used requires you to unlock it for staking. What makes you believe otherwise?

Don't mix my words.

Which ones, these?

You Do Not Have To Encrypt/Unencrypt anything to Get Any Wallet To Stake Whatsoever!!!

Why don't you actually try encrypting the wallet then unlocking it and seeing if it stakes, that's pretty much how it works perfectly for everyone else in this thread.

[PUMPBANDIT]

Is that meant to be insulting? Your a frikken idiot dude!
Not for above comment, ok I will try it.

Like I said 3 weeks ago this should have been addressed with a how to!

[qawzsx]

Every PoS wallet I've used requires you to unlock it for staking. What makes you believe otherwise?

Don't mix my words.
Yes it needs to be unlocked, but if it wasn't locked to start with your point?

Re: Me a fudder, you are a tool!
My posts on Veri go back 4 weeks ya diphead.

You need a towel for your tears?

BadAss, I think you're just an ignorant twat.
Answering like that to anybody who raise a concern its just stupid...so you're plain stupid and ignorant

[PUMPBANDIT]

This thread is starting to go downhill with the amount of morons that have turned up.

[cryptodevil]

They came over en-masse from the Silkcoin thread I believe.

[pnosker]

As for VeriBit, there is a large buffer of BTC we have donated by a large investor (not in Black Hand) to block any market disrupting uses of it. For now we will limit maximum sends of 1 BTC until we can ensure we will not manipulate the price greatly. We are leveraging the optimal buying algorithm to recover the BTC after a VeriBit transaction and it's been seamless so far. There are no "fees" per se, but the conversion rate is constructed using price levels and often leaves us with ~1% extra BTC after. That BTC goes to boost the buffer to reduce potential damage from sends in the future. Nobody is getting rich of VeriBit. It's designed to help the community, not make much profit.

That's useful, and very pertinent information that needs to be layed out clearly for people, so that they can decide whether they are happy to pay the ~1% premium. It's an interesting development, I look forward to seeing how it's received.

It's not a 1% premium when the market goes down. The system just calculates the lowest price required to ensure it can buy back the BTC. We trained it so it will be minimal. Really, it's just a price. The % depends on how much BTC you want. The more BTC, the higher the rate-- it's just how the market works.

If you're often left with ~1% extra BTC, then that's a premium on top of what I would have paid to go through an exchange. I don't have a problem with that if the info is laid out for people. Many users will be happy to pay something for the convenience. But that's a  side issue.

I don't understand the '% depends on how much BTC you want' part. Why is this ? When trading on an exchange, I am not presented with a different rate according to the value I am trading. Am I missing something ?

We'll list that there's some fees to cover the exchange. Imagine the following scenario:

There's buy orders for 0.1 BTC at 30k sat. and 1.5 BTC at 29.5k sat. If you want to send a 0.05 BTC transaction, it will use the value as 30k sat + 2 VRC as the fee. If you want to send 1.0 BTC it will use a weighted average of the 0.1 BTC and 1.5 BTC orders. Make sense? It does this because it needs to recapture enough BTC to keep the buffer alive. The fee is 2 VRC right now plus actual exchange rate.

Why do you choose to use an actual rate for one transaction, and a weighted average for another ? Why does the larger transaction benefit from the reduced fee ?

It can't be an actual rate for the transaction because 0.1 BTC doesn't cover the entire 1 BTC. It has to use both rates to get the "true" rate.

[pnosker]

Paying directly from the exchange is already 100% anonymous

Except for all the information that links you to your exchange account. Even if it's just an email account, that account links on to somewhere else where it has been used to register an account for you on another unrelated service and so on, whereby, over time you gave your name or a delivery address for some goods to a supplier and, bingo, that Exchange address now clearly belongs to you and any payments sent from it are, indeed, linked to you.

Yes, yes, you might have used TOR and a disposable Email address when you registered for your exchange account and all the other guff that nobody with nothing worth hiding bothers with. If so, then why bother complaining that this service does nothing for you when it clearly does a ton for everybody else.

All I'm saying is that I don't see how VeriBit is useful at all to drive that much fee in the dev's pocket... I mean... 1%... for real now
If you want to pay for something that accepts BTC, just exchange some VRC for BTC and pay with BTC...is that simple...

Its not about anonymity here, I was just answering to somebody's else point of view...

I gave 1% as an example. In reality it's less, but with 0.2% fees in each direction from the exchange plus BTC withdraw fee, I don't think it's too crazy. As I said before, don't use it if you don't like it. Some people don't want to have to wait for exchanges.

[ScottAllyn]

What is Veribit?

VeriBit is a feature that allows people to use/spend VeriCoins anywhere that Bitcoins are accepted. Here is a desktop video of me using the current implementation to buy a Papa Johns Pizza gift certificate:

http://youtu.be/PLuBgdQJ6NQ

wow...thank you for that! Well i guess we should thank the dev's, but thank you for taking the time to post that video.

Here's my first attempt / blooper reel:

    http://youtu.be/zRQ1kfL7CVk

[PUMPBANDIT]

They came over en-masse from the Silkcoin thread I believe.

Yeah seems like it, they just ruin everything with their abuse.

Ok I have encrypted the wallet, then unlocked it.
Here's hoping. Will report back in a few days.
Thanks for the help cryptodevil 

[zsp]

Nice stats...lets hope its not a pump

Ofc its a pump. Every single coin that goes up this rapidly is being pumped, which also means it is going to get dumped. It doesn't matter if the coin is great like Veri or Monero - it is still going to get dumped after a few days / a week. Of course the price will rise some time after the dump, but it will first get dumped and forgotten for a while, until there's new news about the coin or somebody decides to pump it again. Unfortunately that's the way things work in the altcoin market.

+1

So what's this rise again? Is it a pump again?

[onsightit]

As for VeriBit, there is a large buffer of BTC we have donated by a large investor (not in Black Hand) to block any market disrupting uses of it. For now we will limit maximum sends of 1 BTC until we can ensure we will not manipulate the price greatly. We are leveraging the optimal buying algorithm to recover the BTC after a VeriBit transaction and it's been seamless so far. There are no "fees" per se, but the conversion rate is constructed using price levels and often leaves us with ~1% extra BTC after. That BTC goes to boost the buffer to reduce potential damage from sends in the future. Nobody is getting rich of VeriBit. It's designed to help the community, not make much profit.

That's useful, and very pertinent information that needs to be layed out clearly for people, so that they can decide whether they are happy to pay the ~1% premium. It's an interesting development, I look forward to seeing how it's received.

If you are not having to go through an exchange, then ~1% is not a terrible deal. Most exchanges charge 0.2% for each trade transaction. Then again to withdraw it to your wallet.