[ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin x11 + PoS | P2P Anonymity | 0% Premine | Commander

[karolina]

Buy orders building up.... Gonna explode soon...

[Bobsurplus]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

[timk225]

Mintpal BTC volume up 33% for CRYPT in the last few hours........

[Bobsurplus]

Mintpal BTC volume up 33% for CRYPT in the last few hours........

Yet the price in only falling!

[pbremen01]

It seems to me that bad guys behind others coins like DRK and BC want to destroy this amazing coin.  

Screw dark and BC but at least DRK has been honestly trying and just hyping with BS and deleting any analysis of their concept like crypt coin has done (http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptCoin/comments/28e8be/security_analysis_of_cryptcoins_cryptcast_feature/)

Do you have any link to the analysis of their (DRK) concept?

To the best of my knowledge:

Dark uses modified coinjoin with game theory addition.

Plain coinjoin with blind signatures is problematic in DOS scenarios as the attacker can't be punished and the transactions halt forever (that was the first DarkSend implementation back in February). It's also problematic in that inputs / outputs can be co-related as recently evidenced.

DarkSend uses non-blind signing (the node knows what is being transacted) to solve the DoS issue (attacker penalized by losing transaction collateral) but it represents a regression (probably temporary) in terms of anonymity. To solve the mapping-the-transactions issue, two layers have been proposed.

1) make the nodes expensive to acquire, otherwise a bad actor could flood the network with his nodes and map everything (1000 DRK requirement to buy a node). As more nodes are acquired price goes up and creates a positive feedback loop that escalates the price even more. Thus the bad actor will the require immense capital to acquire the vast majority of the nodes.

2) multiple DarkSends through the nodes. In this way even if a bad actor controls 40% of the network nodes, 5 darksends reduce the problem to 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 = 1% to get a mapped transaction. IF you do it 10 times even more.

As for (2) an anonymity upgrade plans to replace the necessity for multiple darksends (undisclosed details)

To solve the issue of coinjoin input-output matching, DRK uses a homogenizing denomination pool of 10 coins where all inputs are 10. The plan was to use multiple denomination pools (1-10-100-1000 etc) but there is a problem encountered in the need to send more coins. Imagine if you want to send 600 coins and you need to input 1000 coins. So the denomination pools will be redesigned to account for that issue or dealt with another way.

Problems pending for fix are

a) Change can still be linked for common ownership. This is planned to be fixed in upcoming RCs (denominated change or something like that)
b) Strong IP obfuscation has to be merged (I2P) otherwise network broadcasts betray the user anyway
c) The 10 DRK limit of the denominating pool has to be lifted but at the same time preserve homogeneity of input or find an alternate way to deal with input/output matching.
d) Masternode payments (they get 20% of the mining income for providing the anonymity service / mixing) are glitching and presenting fork issues
e) A way to conceal who is transacting what must be found so that the Masternode doesn't know as a way to eliminate the need for multiple DarkSends which would bloat the blockchain.
f) Traffic on the network will have to increase when everything is done, so that mixing can occur - otherwise with no DarkSends there can be no mixing.
g) The code has to be reviewed by third parties to fix outstanding issues or security holes (later RCs)

Wow, thanks for your detailed answer. I will study this for sure. Where did you get such large amount of implementation details?

[abercrombie]

Will crypt be listed on BTC-e tonight? Will there be a big announcement by BTC-e to stop this FUD? Find out tonight in the dark allys of BTCtalk DOT org

I have an account there and post all the time in the chat box.

Just sent a support ticket, their response:

[jacoo]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

[Bobsurplus]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

[mrhorse1]

Will crypt be listed on BTC-e tonight? Will there be a big announcement by BTC-e to stop this FUD? Find out tonight in the dark allys of BTCtalk DOT org

I have an account there and post all the time in the chat box.

Just sent a support ticket, their response:

https://i.imgur.com/qiLrMQL.png

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

[smille]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

[jacoo]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

Investing in CRYPT is much much better business then your 5:1

[Bobsurplus]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

[Bobsurplus]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

Investing in CRYPT is much much better business then your 5:1

ok 50:1

Willing to bet now???

[david1365]

This thread: full of FUDs

[Shkembe]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

[Bobsurplus]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

[Shkembe]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

[mrhorse1]

This thread: full of FUDs

Starting with the very first post!

[Bobsurplus]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

[Bobsurplus]

This thread: full of FUDs

Starting with the very first post!

So true!