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June 23, 2014, 08:22:26 PM
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Where did I say that I have no dev/coding experience? I was just saying that I'm not "cryptocoin" dev. Maybe I didn't make this clear enough, sorry.

And for providing security audits you don't have to be dev/coder. You can be mathematician/cryptologist for example. Most security methods (schemes, algorithms etc.) are actually developed by mathematicians. The devs just code/implement them because they usually don't have enough mathematical knowledge or insight to actually develop them.




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June 23, 2014, 08:27:32 PM
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Mindfox, why are you using term "hard to trace system"? What does it mean? Why don't you use term "anonymity" (I know that anonymity is vague term, but "hard to trace" if vague also)?

It seems that you're developing a system that will resistant to some specific types of attack, but it would be vulnerable to other (known) types of attacks.

To what kind of attack do you plan that your system will be resistant?

And why the whitepaper is not saying anything about this "hard to trace system"?


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June 23, 2014, 08:35:58 PM
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Mindfox, why are you using term "hard to trace system"? What does it mean? Why don't you use term "anonymity" (I know that anonymity is vague term, but "hard to trace" if vague also)?

It seems that you're developing a system that will resistant to some specific types of attack, but it would be vulnerable to other (known) types of attacks.

To what kind of attack do you plan that your system will be resistant?

And why the whitepaper is not saying anything about this "hard to trace system"?



I'm using this term (as I always did) because I do not think there can be true anonymity in-code with the wallet alone and at the same time keep compatibility with bitcoin blockchain. At least not without compromising some critical systems of the wallet itself. That's only my opinion of courses. Noone can tell what the future brings.
The whitepaper is a draft, not a whitepaper. I also cleared that out many times.
My plan is to make this coin resistant to various kinds of attacks using well known methods against the well known types of attacks. Either by using in-wallet methods or by marrying services (not everything at once of course).
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June 23, 2014, 08:42:59 PM
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Mindfox, why are you using term "hard to trace system"? What does it mean? Why don't you use term "anonymity" (I know that anonymity is vague term, but "hard to trace" if vague also)?

It seems that you're developing a system that will resistant to some specific types of attack, but it would be vulnerable to other (known) types of attacks.

To what kind of attack do you plan that your system will be resistant?

And why the whitepaper is not saying anything about this "hard to trace system"?



I'm using this term (as I always did) because I do not think there can be true anonymity in-code with the wallet alone and at the same time keep compatibility with bitcoin blockchain. At least not without compromising some critical systems of the wallet itself. That's only my opinion of courses. Noone can tell what the future brings.
The whitepaper is a draft, not a whitepaper. I also cleared that out many times.
My plan is to make this coin resistant to various kinds of attacks using well known methods against the well known types of attacks. Either by using in-wallet methods or by marrying services (not everything at once of course).

so are you creating a anonymous function or a hard to trace function
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June 23, 2014, 08:45:25 PM
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Mindfox, why are you using term "hard to trace system"? What does it mean? Why don't you use term "anonymity" (I know that anonymity is vague term, but "hard to trace" if vague also)?

It seems that you're developing a system that will resistant to some specific types of attack, but it would be vulnerable to other (known) types of attacks.

To what kind of attack do you plan that your system will be resistant?

And why the whitepaper is not saying anything about this "hard to trace system"?



I'm using this term (as I always did) because I do not think there can be true anonymity in-code with the wallet alone and at the same time keep compatibility with bitcoin blockchain. At least not without compromising some critical systems of the wallet itself. That's only my opinion of courses. Noone can tell what the future brings.
The whitepaper is a draft, not a whitepaper. I also cleared that out many times.
My plan is to make this coin resistant to various kinds of attacks using well known methods against the well known types of attacks. Either by using in-wallet methods or by marrying services (not everything at once of course).

But why don't you or other team members (maybe moosa) publish some kind of updated whitepaper?

You don't have to provide much technical details or even actual implementation. Just clearly state goals that you're trying to achieve and maybe some general concepts (zero-knowledge-proofs, public key cryptography etc.).

Most of crypto whitepapers actually provide just this anyway. Lots of marketing buzzwords, but you really can't make any conclusions about the security of the system (except if the main concept doesn't sound right - using exchanges as mixers?) because the technical details are completely missing or are vague.





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June 23, 2014, 09:05:51 PM
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can everyone just let the man code
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June 23, 2014, 09:08:13 PM
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Ok I am satisfied that MindFox has no wallet, I didn't understand who you were just like I don't know who the Dev's are. Nothing childish about requiring the DEV's to put their wallets up. The wallets must contain a substantial amount of coin. If they copy and paste a random wallet then they will screw themselves when that wallet sells off. So this would require their actual wallets. This way we will know they are not taking advantage of this Illegal activity. Of course they could send a large amount to another wallet but guess what we would see that transaction. Should be easy to comprehend. The transactions will provide transparency to what they have done since this debacle started. Of course there may be Dev wallets that had action and some that had none, so they could publish the ones without action in them and not show the wallets with, but this is better than nothing.

This is why ANON is so important to this group be it through not showing their true Identities or even giving the investors the peace of mind that they are not in on this perpetration. Get them to post their wallets, you will understand easily how this will prove their integrity and by not showing any kind of wallet it will have the opposite effect. If they can find a wallet with a substantial amount of coin that has not moved and is not accumulating coin then they could be in the clear without divulging their real wallet but if they can't then it is suspicious that the DEV's (Not MindFox) either don't have a wallet or won't show their wallet. Do you get it now? I would hope that you being keen to Hard to Trace Methods would understand how I can go back and trace their history.

This is actually the best way to prove your concept and give integrity to the coin simultaneously, since we will see at least 500K to 1Million coin not moving. Once the ANON features are rolled out the DEV's will be able to sell at will and we can also enjoy the ANON function so it won't matter at that point.

Tell the DEV's to Show us the Money!

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June 23, 2014, 09:09:18 PM
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Maybe Mindfox don't want to give too much hint on what he is working on. Copycats are waiting in the shadow.
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June 23, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
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And you are only working on some sort of anonymity scheme, then?

Are you not working on this Commander thing?

Exactly as you said it.

This is sort of unclear, probably due to how I phrased the question.

I want to get this clear, so I'll ask more clearly. I'll list the things I understand to be true.

1. Mindfox is working on a system for anonymity.

2. There is a project for this coin called Commander.

3. Commander looks to be a webwallet with various features.

4. Commander is not the anonymity plan for this coin.

5. Mindfox is *not* working on Commander.

Are these things true, or am I wrong about one or more of them?

All true.

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June 23, 2014, 09:21:19 PM
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it's simple. Once Crypt unleashes its secrets then you can go copy and paste it to whatever shitcoin your planning. Until then why in the hell does anybody owe you an explanation of anything?



Because the point of bitcoin is opensource, and further more the professionals here like to read code before compiling and using it. The comments in the bitcoin source code clearly state their licensing. You don't get to pick and choose which pieces of code are open source. if its modified bitcoin code, or even code added, it still falls under the same licensure. Furthermore, i feel like your point is a bit misleading. Even if someone else copies crypts code and uses it, Crypt is the still the original work and no one will forget that. They haven't forgotten about bitcoin, litecoin, primecoin, megacoin, anoncoin and darkcoin, quarkcoin, all of which were first of their kind and with the exception of primecoin, each has been copied and rebranded ad nauseum with little actual affect on the originals themselves.

Damn thanks for reminding me.  I actually forgot about megacoin and anoncoin. 

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June 23, 2014, 09:22:58 PM
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can everyone just let the man code

i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck

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June 23, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
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it's simple. Once Crypt unleashes its secrets then you can go copy and paste it to whatever shitcoin your planning. Until then why in the hell does anybody owe you an explanation of anything?



Because the point of bitcoin is opensource, and further more the professionals here like to read code before compiling and using it. The comments in the bitcoin source code clearly state their licensing. You don't get to pick and choose which pieces of code are open source. if its modified bitcoin code, or even code added, it still falls under the same licensure. Furthermore, i feel like your point is a bit misleading. Even if someone else copies crypts code and uses it, Crypt is the still the original work and no one will forget that. They haven't forgotten about bitcoin, litecoin, primecoin, megacoin, anoncoin and darkcoin, quarkcoin, all of which were first of their kind and with the exception of primecoin, each has been copied and rebranded ad nauseum with little actual affect on the originals themselves.

Damn thanks for reminding me.  I actually forgot about megacoin and anoncoin. 

I want to revisit this and say that you did have a good point. It is perfectly normal to keep a new feature like this underwraps until you are ready to push it into "production". All is good, sorry for my spiel about open source Tongue

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June 23, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
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Ok I am satisfied that MindFox has no wallet, I didn't understand who you were just like I don't know who the Dev's are. Nothing childish about requiring the DEV's to put their wallets up. The wallets must contain a substantial amount of coin. If they copy and paste a random wallet then they will screw themselves when that wallet sells off. So this would require their actual wallets. This way we will know they are not taking advantage of this Illegal activity. Of course they could send a large amount to another wallet but guess what we would see that transaction. Should be easy to comprehend. The transactions will provide transparency to what they have done since this debacle started. Of course there may be Dev wallets that had action and some that had none, so they could publish the ones without action in them and not show the wallets with, but this is better than nothing.

This is why ANON is so important to this group be it through not showing their true Identities or even giving the investors the peace of mind that they are not in on this perpetration. Get them to post their wallets, you will understand easily how this will prove their integrity and by not showing any kind of wallet it will have the opposite effect. If they can find a wallet with a substantial amount of coin that has not moved and is not accumulating coin then they could be in the clear without divulging their real wallet but if they can't then it is suspicious that the DEV's (Not MindFox) either don't have a wallet or won't show their wallet. Do you get it now? I would hope that you being keen to Hard to Trace Methods would understand how I can go back and trace their history.

This is actually the best way to prove your concept and give integrity to the coin simultaneously, since we will see at least 500K to 1Million coin not moving. Once the ANON features are rolled out the DEV's will be able to sell at will and we can also enjoy the ANON function so it won't matter at that point.

Tell the DEV's to Show us the Money!

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This is the worst insight of knowledge I have heard of in pasting a wallet. What does showing your their wallet have to do with their integrity  or in some type of "perpetration?"  If they have no wallet so what, theyre still work ing it, thats all that matters.  Mindfox has no wallet and is sitll working.  If they have a wallet and it has a "substantial" amount then ppl will think they will get dumped on.  THere is no advantage to this method.

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June 23, 2014, 09:30:31 PM
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so people are hyping this coin on features that aren't even in place and promoting how it is the future based on clear smoke - hmmmm that's just more reason to not trust people like MoosaNYC, Koolio, Pr0m3theus and whoever else has a vested interest in ripping off additional buyers of this coin - in general my feelings on this coin can be summed up with this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWlTkuLWFQ
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June 23, 2014, 09:32:42 PM
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I was not involved into any scheme nor I will ever be. In fact, if I see that anyone tries to misuse my name (to me it has incredible value) I will politely leave.

Thank you thats all i wanted to know.
You didn't apologize yet for calling me names though. Is that new kind of ethics?

I can apologize for calling you a dumbass when someone from this team steps up to accept some responsibility. I'm not sure you realize how much investment money was lost thanks to this "error", which you nor any of the crypt dev team appears to be willing to accept responsibility for. Can you honestly say that you had no hand in bringing Attious or any of the others on board this project? I respect your reply that you aren't a Project Manager, but someone from this team needs to step up and assume responsibility for the mismanagement and form a plan for righting the ship. This whole flying by the seat of your pants is not good for business.

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June 23, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
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so people are hyping this coin on features that aren't even in place and promoting how it is the future based on clear smoke - hmmmm that's just more reason to not trust people like MoosaNYC, Koolio, Pr0m3theus and whoever else has a vested interest in ripping off additional buyers of this coin - in general my feelings on this coin can be summed up with this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWlTkuLWFQ

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June 23, 2014, 09:33:22 PM
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can everyone just let the man code

i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck

Problem with having a non-tech person answer questions is one wrong answer will lead to a lot more fud then required.  I think its good to let things play out and see where they go.  If people are weary of the methods or ppl involved then the simple solution is to buy one of the hundreds of other coins out there that they might find more open.  IF and when developments happen and you are satisfied as a buyer then by all means buy it up!  No referring to you or anything, just saying ppl seem to be caught up in needing answers and proof of work right away when its as work in progress.  I dont think intel or ibm would get very far if they had to update ppl daily on their progress and then answer questions about every single thing they do.  Probably best to see how things unfold.

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June 23, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
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I was not involved into any scheme nor I will ever be. In fact, if I see that anyone tries to misuse my name (to me it has incredible value) I will politely leave.

Thank you thats all i wanted to know.
You didn't apologize yet for calling me names though. Is that new kind of ethics?

I can apologize for calling you a dumbass when someone from this team steps up to accept some responsibility. I'm not sure you realize how much investment money was lost thanks to this "error", which you nor any of the crypt dev team appears to be willing to accept responsibility for. Can you honestly say that you had no hand in bringing Attious or any of the others on board this project? I respect your reply that you aren't a Project Manager, but someone from this team needs to step up and assume responsibility for the mismanagement and form a plan for righting the ship. This whole flying by the seat of your pants is not good for business.

They did do this in IRC chan as it was unfolding.  IMO if anything Attious that fat faced pumpkin head mofo is the one that should apologize to every holder of this coin.  He is the one that screwed ppl over. 

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June 23, 2014, 09:38:31 PM
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so people are hyping this coin on features that aren't even in place and promoting how it is the future based on clear smoke - hmmmm that's just more reason to not trust people like MoosaNYC, Koolio, Pr0m3theus and whoever else has a vested interest in ripping off additional buyers of this coin - in general my feelings on this coin can be summed up with this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWlTkuLWFQ

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Apparently you do because you at least took the time to post a reply along with the others that reply to different post so you do care otherwise why are you here?
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can everyone just let the man code

i am in concurrence with this. Its none of my business, but it would probably make things easier if Mindfox and Co. appointed a non-technical member of the team to monitor this thread and field technical questions and relay the answers. This way, Mindfox has to worry less about what he's going to type in reply and more about what he's working on currently. everyone wins for the most part. The people get what they want, Mindfox gets peace and quiet to focus on his immense task. Writing code is easy. Writing code that works is difficult. Writing bug free code that works and provides a relatively high level of anonymity, well i would have to think it is quiet difficult indeed. CRYPT team, please hire a spokesperson to monitor this thread so you can focus on your task at hand. good luck

Problem with having a non-tech person answer questions is one wrong answer will lead to a lot more fud then required.  I think its good to let things play out and see where they go.  If people are weary of the methods or ppl involved then the simple solution is to buy one of the hundreds of other coins out there that they might find more open.  IF and when developments happen and you are satisfied as a buyer then by all means buy it up!  No referring to you or anything, just saying ppl seem to be caught up in needing answers and proof of work right away when its as work in progress.  I dont think intel or ibm would get very far if they had to update ppl daily on their progress and then answer questions about every single thing they do.  Probably best to see how things unfold.

The best thing i ever did for my business was hire a spokesperson to review all of my social media postings and other publications prior to publishing. He is a non technical person who doesn't know a lick of code. Best thing that ever happened to me, the trolls dropped like flies when they realized i wouldn't reply any further to feed their troll fires.

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