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May 29, 2014, 02:38:09 AM
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Kerry: Snowden should "man up" and do "his patriotic duty" to go to jail.
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Washington: US Secretary of State John Kerry lashed out at fugitive Edward Snowden Wednesday, urging him to "man-up" and do his patriotic duty by returning home to face trial for leaking intelligence secrets.

Kerry's comments came only hours after Snowden alleged he was not just a low-level contractor working for the CIA, as the White House has repeatedly insisted.

"I was trained as a spy in sort of the traditional sense of the word in that I lived and worked undercover overseas -- pretending to work in a job that I'm not -- and even being assigned a name that was not mine," he told NBC.

In his first interview with US media, Snowden said he had worked covertly as "a technical expert" for the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency, and as a trainer for the Defense Intelligence Agency.

Kerry however denied that the State Department had trapped Snowden in Moscow, saying "for a supposedly smart guy, that's a pretty dumb answer, frankly." "If Mr Snowden wants to come back to the United States today, we'll have him on a flight today," Kerry told NBC.

"A patriot would not run away and look for refuge in Russia or Cuba or some other country," Kerry said. "A patriot would stand up in the United States and make his case to the American people."
More..http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/snowden-should-man-up-and-face-trial-kerry_935742.html
Yeah, be a patriot and come back to a kangaroo court. The O regime has come down hard on whistleblowers and yet they play this media game of "just come back and make your case" as if the deck wasn't already stacked against the person.
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May 29, 2014, 02:55:52 AM
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"Kerry should fuck off and shut the fuck up" says wachtwoord on the bitcointalk forums.

yeah agreed as the US gov already made charges against him, I feel bad for him his life is ruined from this point on, I wonder if he has any regrets doing this.  I think as of us Americans we need to stand up for the man

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May 29, 2014, 03:02:44 AM
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or maybe the U.S. govt should man up and tell the public how they're meddling in everyone's lives.
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May 29, 2014, 03:05:30 AM
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One should now that in no way would the trial be fair and unbiased
The jury judge and executioner would not be anywhere in his favor
Kangaroo court (Maybe in 10-20 years when the impact is diminished)

Also Chelsea Manning. He exposed images of soldiers killing innocent people for sport and who's in a jail cell? I'll give you a hint: not those soldiers. Makes me fucking sick to my stomach.

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May 29, 2014, 04:05:44 AM
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But first American politicians people such as Hillary Clinton (the future POTUS) should face trial for bombing the orphanages of Serbia and killing hundreds of children. George W Bush (ex-POTUS) should take the responsibility of killing 2 million Iraqi civilians. Once they are ready to face trial for their crimes, then we can talk about Snowden.

                               
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May 29, 2014, 04:32:53 AM
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John Kerry needs to man up and explain what his predecessor was doing while our Ambassador was murdered in Libya.

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May 29, 2014, 06:01:17 AM
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"Kerry should fuck off and shut the fuck up" says wachtwoord on the bitcointalk forums.


Well put.
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May 29, 2014, 06:03:23 AM
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But first American politicians people such as Hillary Clinton (the future POTUS) should face trial for bombing the orphanages of Serbia and killing hundreds of children. George W Bush (ex-POTUS) should take the responsibility of killing 2 million Iraqi civilians. Once they are ready to face trial for their crimes, then we can talk about Snowden.

it feels like you are trying to confront the bully at the school, but it's impossible because even if you won.. everyone else around you is not your friend
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May 29, 2014, 07:05:25 AM
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"Kerry should fuck off and shut the fuck up" says wachtwoord on the bitcointalk forums.

yeah agreed as the US gov already made charges against him, I feel bad for him his life is ruined from this point on, I wonder if he has any regrets doing this.  I think as of us Americans we need to stand up for the man
It wont happen the American became a country where they turn there cheek when there is an issue.  let me tell you a story one day I was in a subway station in new york an African American male was banged his GF so hard you heard it loud from the other side of the car, he continued to make threats, everyone was looking but they look like they would do something but they didnt say a word.  I had to get up and I said " Hey!! That is enough!!!!.  Then the group of teens joined in with me.  I told the girl to get off this station and there is a police officer.  I helped the girl from getting abused, who knows how bad things would have gotten if I wasnt there to make a stand.  This is the place we live in today, where we turn our other cheek when someone might be crying for help but they are to scared too.

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May 29, 2014, 07:22:13 AM
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Yep, a real patriot would come back to be assasinated.

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Yep, a real patriot would come back to be assasinated.

nah, they are not that kind. probably will have to torture him. for instance, isn't some of the information on how they are treating bradley classified?

maybe if they're brave enough, they'll torture him and leak out information that they did, to set a precedence for any future offenders that if they rat out the US gov, then they will wish for their death.
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nah, they are not that kind. probably will have to torture him. for instance, isn't some of the information on how they are treating bradley classified?

I don't think there was any torture. They just forced a sex change operation upon him. So Bradley Manning no longer exists now. There is only Chelsea Manning. If Edward Snowden returns to the US, he / she will be Barbara Snowden after a few months.

                               
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May 29, 2014, 10:04:12 AM
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Yep, a real patriot would come back to be assasinated.

Let's face it, it's either that or get thrown in jail for half of his life.

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He should man up and come back to the United States. If he has a complaint about what's the matter with American surveillance, (he should) come back here and stand in our system of justice and make his case.

"If he cares so much about America and he believes in America, he should trust the American system of justice.

Make his case and then get sent straight to prison? The USG should apologise to Snowden and the rest of the world and then publicly pardon him. I also don't see how you can't care about a country but not trust the justice system which is obviously corrupt and won't give him a fair trial.

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Make his case and then get sent straight to prison? The USG should apologise to Snowden and the rest of the world and then publicly pardon him. I also don't see how you can't care about a country but not trust the justice system which is obviously corrupt and won't give him a fair trial.

This.

Many dissidents, who escaped from the Soviet Union, cared for the country, but were rightly distrustful of its judicial system, especially in the politically-flavoured cases.

Seems like the table has been turned...

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http://rt.com/usa/162144-snowden-russia-spy-nsa/

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"The reality is I never intended to end up in Russia," he said. "I had a flight booked to Cuba onwards to Latin America and I was stopped because the United States government decided to revoke my passport and trap me in Moscow airport.”

"So when people ask why are you in Russia, I say, 'Please ask the State Department,'” he added.

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People in the U.S government no less talked about how much they'd want to shoot him, it's amazing really that Russia is more safe for him than the U.S given what we've been taught by western governments as children, John Kerry can shut the fuck up I agree, at least in Russia he's being treated as a human being.
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John Kerry is one of the biggest fuckin' hypocrite on the world.
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It'd like to see Kerry's butthurt if Snowden would decide to run his election campaign on the next parliamentary or mayor elections... It seems that he has a strong chance to be elected as MP or mayor of Moscow.

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at least in Russia he's being treated as a human being.

Maybe, but sadly this courtesy doesn't extended to some of their own citizens, specifically homosexuals and feminist activists (not to mention their involvement in the Ukraine).

Has Snowden actually got a Russian passport now, or has/will he be granted citizenship? I wonder if he'll ever make his way to Cuba, but I'd probably rather stay in Russia where it's safer for him. Cuba looks a nice place to live though. Whatever happens I hope he can find some comfort/happiness in life. Pretty bullshit he'll most probably have to spend the rest of his life as a fugitive now.

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yeah agreed as the US gov already made charges against him, I feel bad for him his life is ruined from this point on, I wonder if he has any regrets doing this.  I think as of us Americans we need to stand up for the man

Ruined life ? He already won.
The day when he will die, I am sure he will be one of the few that will proudly say : "I had a meaningful life, thanks"
There is no way he regrets following his conviction against a comfortable life.
His life is not ruined, it began from the day he followed his convictions. (The bad or good consequences it had depends on the observer)

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