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May 30, 2014, 11:48:49 PM
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Snowden Acts Like a Man – John Kerry Acts Like a Thug
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Edward Snowden appeared calm, articulate, and mature. John Kerry on the other hand acted like a spoiled, rich kid – a schoolyard bully questioning the “manhood” of Snowden who he insulted by calling him a coward since he won't immediately come home to face charges. In another sophomoric, juvenile bit of mud slinging Kerry called him stupid. What the jack jawed pompous millionaire government hack doesn't seem to realize is that
Snowden isn't near stupid enough to “come home for his fair trial” because no such “fair trial” would ever take place. Kerry can bluster all he wants; he has access to bombs, tanks, and assassins who will kill whomever he wishes. What does Snowden have? Two things: first he has far more common sense than Kerry, and second he has the truth.
Cont...http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/snowden-acts-like-man-john-kerry-acts.html#more

This is a great article piece and should be shared far and wide. Just another clip
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“Sometimes the “right” thing is not the “legal” thing” was a statement he made near the end of the interview; and I knew exactly what he meant. If a kid is drowning in a lake and you're standing next to a sign that says “No Swimming!” What do you do? Answer: you break the law and save the kid. When painted into a corner you have to consider the matter of the greater good and act accordingly. Letting the chips fall where they may, which is what Snowden has done. There's a mighty dear price you pay for standing up to “Uncle Sam” and his bully goons like John Kerry. But the Federal government’s gang of rouge outlaws need to be stopped. Here's to hoping other Edward Snowdens are out there now, determining whether or not they'll act like men and yet be called a coward by the biggest coward of them all John Kerry. Name-calling is the petty task of the 8th grade bully. Taking on a corrupt government is the job of a man. Maybe someday Snowden can get back to work in his office; and Kerry can get back to the playground where he belongs.

That is kind of where things get murky for me. He clearly broke some laws but his reasons were just. Our founding fathers we also criminals in the eyes of the British crown.

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May 31, 2014, 07:34:33 AM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

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May 31, 2014, 07:55:21 AM
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All this just exposes the frustration being felt by John Kerry. He wants to get the Democrat ticket for POTUS 2016, but knows that Hillary and Biden are far ahead of him. Kerry is slowly fading away from the public limelight.... If he thinks that verbal diarrhea might help him to temporarily stop that decline, then let it be so. 
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May 31, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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May 31, 2014, 09:57:12 PM
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Anyone here has any doubt that the courageous Kerry would return for trial if he was in Snowden shoes?  Roll Eyes

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May 31, 2014, 09:57:20 PM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.

the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much
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May 31, 2014, 10:31:45 PM
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Unfortunately for a guy like Snowden, he's got to chill in a major powerhouse like Russia otherwise the US/CIA would likely send in a squad after him. But for many of us, those that have interest in new money and avoiding the coming relentless restraints place by the US govt inc, it's more beneficial to go to St. Kitts, Puerto Rico or some such place to escape the coming economic decline. These new capital controls coming in July will signify the new urgency that the US financial sector/FED is realizing is imminent and the S could hit the fan sooner rather than later. I just hope that the likes of Rand Paul can get elected and do something to right the ship and offer a better path for the vast majority of people. Those of us that have accumulated a decent portfolio of BTC and related items are better placed to deal w/ the decline and find an exit.
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May 31, 2014, 10:38:27 PM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.

the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much

There are more than the Democrat and Republican parties, but even if 100% of non-government officials voted for someone who wasn't in them, either a Republican or a Democrat would be declared to have "won" by some arbitrary number anyway. Unless the elected position didn't really matter, then a bone might be thrown to the actual winning party.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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May 31, 2014, 11:39:48 PM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.

That's why we need blockchain based voting

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May 31, 2014, 11:47:09 PM
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Kerry should 'man-up' and confess to treason with the rest of the sitting and past government officials.

In a sense it did make me wonder if enough people tried to kick them out of power if it would work in practice or if voter apathy helps to keep them not charged with any crimes.

It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. Wolves don't eat their own, usually.

the whole American voting system is a fraud in my opinion, two parties, people vote, for people that vote for them, what the hell is this supposed to be, the population should vote directly and no proxy should be allowed in the loop.... as long as this system is in place among others things won't change much

That's actually something the American founders warned against very early on, in fact, I think there's a quote about it and here it is!:

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Kerry sounds like your typical sock puppet. Like back in the day when Karl Rove was running the government propaganda machine. You can bet someone now filling his shoes came up with that little piece of spin.

You can imagine in some backroom with a whiteboard, Conrad Brean is listening to Hollywood producer Stanley Motss ( Wag the Dog ) work out how the public discourse will be manipulated: "No, no, Conrad, no the issue is not about what Snowden exposed, no, its that he is a coward, the people do not like cowards Conrad. Hows that sounds? Good? Ok lets run an interview with whats his face Kerry's saying just that...oh and I think when he says it, he should be holding a kitten...".

That sort of thing.


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Issue should be government needs to stop being pepping tom. I feel totally unsecured having tons of naked photo of myself stored online and being seen by untrained eyes.
Not only will it weaken my self confident but it may cause long term psychological damage to those seeing it.

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June 01, 2014, 03:55:57 AM
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But for many of us, those that have interest in new money and avoiding the coming relentless restraints place by the US govt inc, it's more beneficial to go to St. Kitts, Puerto Rico or some such place to escape the coming economic decline.

I have a strong feeling that these tax heavens (such as St Kitts) can turn to bear traps. These small island nations are ruled by proxy governments or puppets chosen by the United States. The US government won't be too happy, if large number of its citizens try to evade tax by taking St Kitts citizenship.
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June 01, 2014, 04:14:46 AM
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Can't believe I voted for this guy in 2004.

On that one, you got goxxed.

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Can't believe I voted for this guy in 2004.

On that one, you got goxxed.

Proud to say that the only presidential candidate I ever voted for was Gary Johnson Smiley
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June 01, 2014, 07:10:17 AM
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Proud to say that the only presidential candidate I ever voted for was Gary Johnson Smiley

Voting for the Libertarian Party candidates is a waste. They hardly ever get more than 2% of the vote (Gary Johnson received just 0.99% of the vote). They only helps the Democrats, by eating away the GOP vote.
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June 01, 2014, 07:24:00 AM
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Proud to say that the only presidential candidate I ever voted for was Gary Johnson Smiley

Voting for the Libertarian Party candidates is a waste. They hardly ever get more than 2% of the vote (Gary Johnson received just 0.99% of the vote). They only helps the Democrats, by eating away the GOP vote.

If a third party gets 5% of the vote, then the party gets FEC funding.

Since no third-party candidate received 5% of the vote in the 2008 presidential election, only the Republican and Democratic parties were eligible for 2012 convention grants, and only their nominees were eligible to receive grants for the general election once they were nominated. Third-party candidates could qualify for public funds retroactively if they received 5% or more of the vote in the general election.

Anyways, why the hell should I vote for someone I don't fully support?
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June 01, 2014, 08:48:33 AM
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If a third party gets 5% of the vote, then the party gets FEC funding.

Anyways, why the hell should I vote for someone I don't fully support?

Getting 5% of the vote means almost 6.5 million votes. That will be a huge challenge for anyone outside the two party system. Requires hundreds of millions of USD in funding.
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June 01, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
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Anyways, why the hell should I vote for someone I don't fully support?
When you are choosing between opposition candidates, it's better to vote for somebody who has higher ratings even if you are completely disagree with him. This reason is called a "compromise". It allows you to make the gap between puppet parties and opposition smaller and increase GOP/Dem spendings. Smiley
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June 01, 2014, 01:13:05 PM
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I vote libertarian.

Because a vote for lesser of two evils is simply a vote to perpetuate the rotten 2 party system.

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