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Author Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos  (Read 1481794 times)
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July 25, 2014, 05:21:44 PM
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Hello,

I might have missed it, but still.. Once this EM is done, will it be functional with 0 balance? Or is there a neccessary balance for this?

Thanks for the answers!

It's currently free.


May i ask if you can send offline messages, and in this case, are these stored on blockchain? Everything that is affecting blockchain could include a fee, but things that are sent directly through the network (multipath) should not include a fee. Imho you should not put a fee on "ip-traffic", thats just a service, same as for people who are providing bandwidth for the XC network.

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XChat doesn't use the blockchain because then messages will be stored permanently, so if at any point in the future someone gains access to a private key, they'll be able to access your messages. Bad idea for privacy :-)

If you send to an offline user, your app will store the message locally (for max. 48 hours) until it connects to the recipient's app. This is just what the app does at present; it's not necessarily what it'll do in future.

XChat usage means more running apps, which means a more secure network, so we'll probably keep it free. :-)



Edit: oh and it's true P2P. It's a direct connection between nodes and is end-to-end encrypted. There's no need for forwarding or multipath because no record of the messages is left anywhere for anyone to track.





You know the good stuff have yet to come, when your teams thinks and acts this way. Congratulations to the XC team! More giveaways plz, need to strengthen my holdings

ps: I would like to remind every1 theres a price speculation topic, and a newb friendly coin control guide in my signature, hosted by the XC forum. You are welcome to read them and use them! The PST topic poll has been updated accordingly as well.

ps2: I agree with numisma on fee consideration, premium features should be exactly that, like the private transactions. more gains for holders.


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XChat public key: zcfx74j4fFK9hW7rQniTvLyDyXd9SyRCrncP9vdukbVT
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July 25, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
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Hello,

I might have missed it, but still.. Once this EM is done, will it be functional with 0 balance? Or is there a neccessary balance for this?

Thanks for the answers!

It's currently free.


May i ask if you can send offline messages, and in this case, are these stored on blockchain? Everything that is affecting blockchain could include a fee, but things that are sent directly through the network (multipath) should not include a fee. Imho you should not put a fee on "ip-traffic", thats just a service, same as for people who are providing bandwidth for the XC network.

Regards

XChat doesn't use the blockchain because then messages will be stored permanently, so if at any point in the future someone gains access to a private key, they'll be able to access your messages. Bad idea for privacy :-)

If you send to an offline user, your app will store the message locally (for max. 48 hours) until it connects to the recipient's app. This is just what the app does at present; it's not necessarily what it'll do in future.

XChat usage means more running apps, which means a more secure network, so we'll probably keep it free. :-)


Edit: oh and it's true P2P. It's a direct connection between nodes and is end-to-end encrypted. There's no need for forwarding or multipath because no record of the messages is left anywhere for anyone to track.






Fantastic.
Even though my first thought was, that the app should atleast have like 0,01 XC in it. Not to much, just to create some buying pressure for the long term, as this technology is something that can really take out some of the chat apps.

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July 25, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
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Just out interest, did anyone receive an email from xctalk?
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July 25, 2014, 05:38:34 PM
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Just out interest, did anyone receive an email from xctalk?

Yes I did, thank you!
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July 25, 2014, 05:41:13 PM
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Just out interest, did anyone receive an email from xctalk?

i receive that Cheesy
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July 25, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
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yeah I received one, really nice! Dont generally check that email account too much, but nice to receive from forum

XCurrency Price Speculation Topic
Coin Control Basic guide                                                                XChat address/private/instant/absolute: XSKu1fpwvRcAekfK91qVHi51Tgz4ckoA91
XChat public key: zcfx74j4fFK9hW7rQniTvLyDyXd9SyRCrncP9vdukbVT
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July 25, 2014, 05:50:48 PM
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Just out interest, did anyone receive an email from xctalk?

Yep! cheers Smiley

XChat XJkVnYD4N4oSjNStgbAUD6UyWuBTWuMRgv
public key  fuYPYmK4Sj57PkU2NKg1gKW91euMKkstQPeeexUcxnb8
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July 25, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
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Just out interest, did anyone receive an email from xctalk?

Keep on doing that!

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July 25, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
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Since the MP problem I have moved most of my bags to TREX, but seriously, with a volume of 3 BTC/24h, my XCs will still be in MP (x10 times volume).

Eth.

If you are a long-term holder, why are you concerned with the exchanges? Remove your coins to your local wallet and stake supporting the network. Not only will this benefit the network integrity but less coins on the exchange means less available supply.

First of all, I didn't say that I was a long term holder, even tho I certainly hold my XC bags since long ago, that doesn't make me a long term holder. If tomorrow I am in need, or I do consider that the best for me is to sell, then I would just do it.

Now the team and the evolution of the coin have made me curious and kind of a believer, for now that is the reason I hold. It doesn't mean I cannot sell high and re-buy more quantity at a lower price.

Second, you ignore if I am in fact staking or not, I just mentioned I have some bags in MP, that's all.

Third, I am not concerned about exchanges, just exchanging opinions with other forum member since the topic was brought in.

As last point, the fact of having coins in an exchange doesn't make them available.

Anyway, I find quite presumptuous from you and others to try to tell people what to do with their money/shares.

But again, this is the cryptoworld...

Eth.

Bags imply long-term holds so it was a safe assumption on my part. Granted, your point that this is cryptoworld sounds about right, considering people time and time again on here misuse the term short. And yes, leaving coins on an exchange very much makes them "available". Tell that to all the VRC holders that thought keeping their coins on the exchanges was fine. Granted, everything worked out with the rollback but still--a large exchange is far more likely a hackers target than your home computer, especially if you are running even a basic form of security (antivirus, firewall, encrypted wallet).
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July 25, 2014, 06:06:33 PM
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Thanks again synechist for updating us with this, it looks cool and I think from the reaction you can see everyone is behind this, great to see the fruits of Dan's work... I can see this being a huge wallet feature ...

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July 25, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
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Can anyone tell me why won't it be possible to have Xnodes bigger than 550 XC ? Why can't we have Xnodes from 550XC to 5500XC or what ever. I have a bunch of XC and would like to use them as XNodes in the futures but having multiples VM's w/o proxies and what not is cumbersome
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Can anyone tell me why won't it be possible to have Xnodes bigger than 550 XC ? Why can't we have Xnodes from 550XC to 5500XC or what ever. I have a bunch of XC and would like to use them as XNodes in the futures but having multiples VM's w/o proxies and what not is cumbersome

There is no minimum on Xnodes anymore. Every wallet is a Xnode at the moment and the future amount is, to my knowledge, still up for discussion. This also means there is no maximum


World First.

100% Encrypted Messaging; 100% Encrypted Transactions.

With this 2.0 platform; phone calls, email, social networking; all candidates for XC's next world first.

Will you be aboard?

XC ; Architecture of Tomorrow.




Main difference since a week; XC rev. 1 is OPEN SOURCE and giving other start ups the possibility to adopt there great work on a delayed time-line Cheesy I have not seen Apple do THAT
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July 25, 2014, 06:49:23 PM
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Anybody else notice that mintpal volume has been significantly down since the hack ?

I dont mean only XC, all other coins too.

This is a major concern.


Everyone has moved to bittrex. I suggest you move your coins there. This will  seriously boost XC....No jokes. I'm moving it there right now as we speak. If we want XC to do well we need to move coins to the most prominent exchange. No one in the Altcoin world likes Mintpal anymore.

There are many influencial traders in altcoin one of them is IconicExpert...check him out on twitter. Devs pay this guys to post tweets...to move markets. Either way our best chance is to get our funds there.



I suggest staying away from IE.  That guy is a total Dbag and is not good for the longevity of the coin.

Second that! He totally f***ed liberty coin in their FUD wars. I would seriously stay away.

IconicExpert / Christopher Bouzy = Scammer and Thief
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July 25, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
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Edit: oh and it's true P2P. It's a direct connection between nodes and is end-to-end encrypted. There's no need for forwarding or multipath because no record of the messages is left anywhere for anyone to track.

So you will know the IP address of the person you're chatting with, and he will know yours. This is something everyone must be aware of before they engage in a chat with someone.
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July 25, 2014, 07:28:26 PM
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Edit: oh and it's true P2P. It's a direct connection between nodes and is end-to-end encrypted. There's no need for forwarding or multipath because no record of the messages is left anywhere for anyone to track.

So you will know the IP address of the person you're chatting with, and he will know yours. This is something everyone must be aware of before they engage in a chat with someone.

as many of you know, I am not the techy type, but wouldn't you just use the TOR "card" to access your wallet/chat?
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July 25, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
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Nobody prevents you to use a proxy or the Tor network to erase any of your IP traceability, and with the Xchat there is no trace of your message on the network and it is encrypted during transfer i think its already not bad.

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July 25, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
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Nobody prevents you to use a proxy or the Tor network to erase any of your IP traceability, and with the Xchat there is no trace of your message on the network and it is encrypted during transfer i think its already not bad.



yeah there is no restriction on that you can use whatever you want to use.

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July 25, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
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How did XChat testing go today?  Any reports? 

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July 25, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
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How did XChat testing go today?  Any reports? 

All the reports have been great that I've seen... all messages go through instantly.  Also loving the name XChat for this feature.
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July 25, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
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How did XChat testing go today?  Any reports? 

Spot on, instant messaging, secure communication and very fast  Cool
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