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June 04, 2014, 11:05:18 PM |
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Honestly, I see the price fall as a blessing. The general public (aka the masses) has no idea the significance / progress that atcsecure is making with this coin and its anon tech. There will soon come a day when no amount of troll FUD can hold back the price. Use this as an opportunity to stock up.
How right you are sir ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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June 04, 2014, 11:13:06 PM |
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Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.
Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments. Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water. Operative word: will. Which means, as it is right now, with nodes being able to steal money, you don't want much attention because it can instantly snap the other way around to ...negative attention. Let's see the fix first... You seem to spend most of your time on the DRK thread.. What a shock.. Apols in advance for giving you some competition.
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June 04, 2014, 11:14:29 PM |
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How does "dynamic trust" work?
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synechist
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June 04, 2014, 11:18:07 PM |
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Operative word: will.
Which means, as it is right now, with nodes being able to steal money, you don't want much attention because it can instantly snap the other way around to ...negative attention. Let's see the fix first...
It's a little vexing to honour this with a reply, but I think you were asked to provide an argument for your claim that nodes can steal money. And to state the context, if I recall correctly, ATCSecure speculated that it might somehow be possible for someone to figure out a way to do this. By implication, this is not a "problem", it's a strictly theoretical possibility. And it will be given due consideration when testing will begin. And proper testing will begin when the spec is fully implemented. Not now. So there's no need to raise this as some kind of live issue.
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June 04, 2014, 11:22:17 PM |
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Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.
Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments. Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water. Operative word: will. Which means, as it is right now, with nodes being able to steal money, you don't want much attention because it can instantly snap the other way around to ...negative attention. Let's see the fix first... You seem to spend most of your time on the DRK thread.. What a shock.. Apols in advance for giving you some competition. I've given the exact same advice regarding DRK marketing in the past. Finish the product, market later. No need to have broken functionality trigger people "ohhh this is broken" type of stuff.
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CryptoGretzky
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June 04, 2014, 11:23:46 PM |
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Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.
Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments. Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water. Operative word: will. Which means, as it is right now, with nodes being able to steal money, you don't want much attention because it can instantly snap the other way around to ...negative attention. Let's see the fix first... You seem to spend most of your time on the DRK thread.. What a shock.. Apols in advance for giving you some competition. I've given the exact same advice regarding DRK marketing in the past. Finish the product, market later. No need to have broken functionality trigger people "ohhh this is broken" type of stuff. I agree with this too.... I think letting the polished product speak for itself. The price of the coin will take care of itself.
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June 04, 2014, 11:24:25 PM |
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That is just it, it functions now.
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June 04, 2014, 11:34:16 PM |
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That is just it, it functions now.
Im new here, who are you?
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SushiChef
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June 04, 2014, 11:35:05 PM |
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That is just it, it functions now.
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June 04, 2014, 11:36:31 PM |
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That is just it, it functions now.
Im new here, who are you? Our team spirit.. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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June 04, 2014, 11:41:35 PM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
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June 04, 2014, 11:45:24 PM |
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I wish I can buy more. I bought a few when it was .0013 to .0018 - i'm all out of money. Cant buy anymore. This is an awesome coin. I believe in the coin , the dev, team and technology. GO XC!!!
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June 04, 2014, 11:46:40 PM |
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The client reports my stake weight as bigger than the network weight itself, that doesnt make any sense to me, can anyone clarify?
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June 04, 2014, 11:47:50 PM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
I agree that it's trying to retest. At first glance there is about 100btc of buy support between 12 and 125. It's a clear support zone. Hopefully it doesn't bust through it.
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June 04, 2014, 11:48:19 PM |
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Trust me when I say media attention is not really desirable while the "nodes-can-steal-money" issue remains.
Atcsecure already said dynamic trust system will prevent bad actors from stealing. Are you more or as qualified as him to present an argument opposing this? If so, let's hear it. Because all I've seen you do is offer up ungrounded "thesis statements" with no supporting arguments. Not trying to troll, but I'd like to see a solid argument of why you oppose atcsecures method. Until then, nothing you say holds any water. Any such 'dynamic trust system' seems vulnerable to the iterated prisoners dilemma by design. The goal of any blockchain based currency is fully trustless transactions. That's the entire killer app of bitcoin and bitcoin like systems. 'Dynamic trust models' represent a clear problem that has been *long* known about in the literature. People should not keep deferring to somebodies resume to assume infallibility. Just because someone is obviously very smart does not mean they are not prone to attempting to 're-invent the wheel' without reference to fields they are not perhaps as familiar with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoners.27_dilemma
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June 04, 2014, 11:49:12 PM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
Now that would be pleasant. 0.00075 would double my position size. I'll go with that, if only because I'm having trouble doing Fib extensions lower. Ha ha.
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June 04, 2014, 11:54:17 PM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
I agree that it's trying to retest. At first glance there is about 100btc of buy support between 12 and 125. Yea. Problem is I don't think even if we rebound off of 0.0012 range we will last that long, I think we will keep retesting it until we break through. And It is only 100BTC. I've got 80k coins left that might have to go, will prob then rebuy @ 0.001. Lets wait for this bull trap to finish then ill decide
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June 05, 2014, 12:00:01 AM |
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Any such 'dynamic trust system' seems vulnerable to the iterated prisoners dilemma by design. The goal of any blockchain based currency is fully trustless transactions. That's the entire killer app of bitcoin and bitcoin like systems. 'Dynamic trust models' represent a clear problem that has been *long* known about in the literature. People should not keep deferring to somebodies resume to assume infallibility. Just because someone is obviously very smart does not mean they are not prone to attempting to 're-invent the wheel' without reference to fields they are not perhaps as familiar with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoners.27_dilemmaGreat to see some argumentation given. Nothing more refreshing after the trollriver. I'm very keen to hear you out. For clarity in conversation, can you state exactly how the prisoners' dilemma plays out here? I'm aware of the nature of the scenario, but it's seldom applied in the purely standard way.
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JakeThePanda
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June 05, 2014, 12:02:03 AM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
I agree that it's trying to retest. At first glance there is about 100btc of buy support between 12 and 125. Yea. Problem is I don't think even if we rebound off of 0.0012 range we will last that long, I think we will keep retesting it until we break through. And It is only 100BTC. I've got 80k coins left that might have to go, will prob then rebuy @ 0.001. Lets wait for this bull trap to finish then ill decide Yup. It makes that triangle (I don't know the name of it) that keeps bouncing off the floor until it breaks through it. I don't know the name of these things.
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June 05, 2014, 12:02:47 AM |
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Wow. Glad I woke up. Looks like we're going to test 0.001225 again, probably rebound @ 0.001. If we fall through 0.001 then I suggest everyone gets their buy orders in above 0.00075, anything lower than that is crazy.
I agree that it's trying to retest. At first glance there is about 100btc of buy support between 12 and 125. Yea. Problem is I don't think even if we rebound off of 0.0012 range we will last that long, I think we will keep retesting it until we break through. And It is only 100BTC. I've got 80k coins left that might have to go, will prob then rebuy @ 0.001. Lets wait for this bull trap to finish then ill decide Thanks for the advance warning. Hanging out here with the trolls has some benefits.
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