BetMoose.com - Betting Exchange | Prediction Market | Real World Events | P2P

[BetMoose]

BetMoose is the world's first "all-in-one" betting exchange and prediction market. It is social, feature-rich, flexible and distributed.
We do all kinds of bets, including what some call 'Proposition Betting', or 'Wagering'.
We don't like to be immediately associated with gambling though - BetMoose can also be used as a crowd-pooled futures contract exchange between multiple parties.

https://www.betmoose.com

Changing the Game
BetMoose allows anyone to place or create bets about anything. If you are a sports fan, you can bet with others on your favourite team, sport, playoff season ranking, etc. If you don't find the bet, you can make it yourself. If you're an alt-coin developer, why not create a contract about key deliverable dates and invite doubters/trolls to bet against you. If you deliver, they lose their shirt.

Hosts Earn Commissions
As a host (creator) of a bet, you get a commission from the bet payout. Commissions earned are 0.5% to 1% and are based on your reputation.

2-tiered resolution system
In order for hosts to make their commission, they need to resolve their bets. Site moderators are not allowed (and cannot) touch any bets that the host hasn't resolved yet. However, if a host does not resolve, or resolves incorrectly, moderators are allowed to step in. This ensures BetMoose creates an incentivized P2P system for resolving human-involved, 'real world' events and outcomes. It also prevents the '1 point of failure' trust issue seen in other oracle setups.

Secure, Reliable Platform
All bet deposits are held in cold storage. A proof-of-reserves automated checker/tool is coming soon. No unexpected downtime experienced yet in our operations since April 2014. We're running blazing-fast on Cloudflare's CDN with DDoS protection.

Truly Anonymous
Staying true to bitcoin, anonymous betting deposits from any bitcoin address are permitted, or you can sign up (free, only email required) to get added benefits. We also offer privacy-settings for our registered users who want the benefit of remaining anonymous while taking advantage of the benefits of having an account.

Join our Community
Once you sign up, you'll find yourself thrown into the middle of our growing community of friendly oracles who are constantly competing for the top spot of our Hall of Fame as well as making creative bets on random things that are crazy enough to be interesting.

No Nonsense
No fees on anything unless you win some positive amount. If you bet late, BetMoose auto-refunds it back to your specified address. Bets are also auto-cancelled and refunded in full if they go unmatched. In other words, it's free to enter into bets/predictions on things alone if you feel strongly about them! Bets with volume are much likely to attract additional attention.

Revenue Share Program for Referrals
We have a powerful referral program that gives you 20% of what we make from each user. You can refer users by simply adding your code behind any betmoose.com link, and track how everyone you invited is doing in generating you revenues.


Active Support and Development
Have a question or suggestion? We'd love to hear it. We have a friendly, open and forward-thinking team here in Canada so please reach out to us. Post in the thread here or in our support thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=645790


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[CoinFire]

Site looks really great. I would really like to talk with you about an interview for Coin Fire.

Excited to watch you and your team grow!

[BetMoose]

Thanks, and for sure! Sent you a PM.

[The_Gloomfrost]

Congrats on the launch, can't wait to see this grow! I can tell lots of hard work went into this. I'll show my support where I can!

[freedomno1]

Confirming that I have used this service and Betmoose works just came out of Alpha
Congrats on your launch

[BetMoose]

This looks really promising! Can definitely see myself throwing lots of coin at this.

Are you planning to add a chat box? Would be funner to stay on the site and catch up with news and developments.

Thanks for your help with alpha, Gloom. A chat box is currently in the works and is up on our demo server. You'll see it soon enough!

[BetMoose]

Thanks to Fred and crypt.la for the feature! 

http://crypt.la/2014/06/11/exclusive-betmoose-founder-adam-king-spills-all-worlds-first-p2p-betting-site/

Also some updates:

- Hall of Fame now only shows those with winnings.
- Bet slips now more obvious to tell which ones are clickable. (please hold shift+click the refresh button on the bet page if you're a returning user)
- Bunch of other minor tweaks and improvements, including some annoying CSS glitches for our IE users.

[MICRO]

I rly rly love this site. Its awesome and so fun that u can host betting on anything .

My first hosted bet is on: Will primedice launch this month ?

PRIMEDICE3Options: Yes | No

I rly love that ^ How great it looks like on forums. And i will use this site everyday now , just need to think of some weird stuff to bet on LOL

Good job guys.

[BetMoose]

We're glad you like it Micro!

We've updated the site again;
- Filter interactivity improvements
- CSS fixes on the /bets page
- Facebook and BBCode sharing tweaks and fixes for some browsers
- Host new bet button added to the personal 'hosted bets' page under your user profiles

Please show your support in this thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302 - freedomno1; I know you've been on it for almost a month, your voice could mean a lot to us!

Any other of our alpha invitees are also encouraged.

May the moose be with you,
A

[freedomno1]

I rly rly love this site. Its awesome and so fun that u can host betting on anything .

My first hosted bet is on: Will primedice launch this month ?

PRIMEDICE3Options: Yes | No

I rly love that ^ How great it looks like on forums. And i will use this site everyday now , just need to think of some weird stuff to bet on LOL

Good job guys.

Shoot that was a good one I have been wondering when PD3 was due to come out
Props for creation

[MICRO]

I have couple of questions about this .

1. Who decides what is a winning bet ? For example in bet i hosted at the end of month i decide if winning bet is YES (if pd comes out) or NO (if not) , i see a couple of problems there, first i can easily fix the outcome , so lets say even if pd comes out before end i can say it did not come out and let everybody who bet NO to win.

2. I put outcome day at end of month , coz that is when we will see . But what if pd comes out tomorrow? Then i would need to stop the betting right away and everybody who bet on YES to win. I dont see the option to stop the betting before outcome day i setup . (im i missing something) . So then when pd comes out lets say tomorrow people will bet on yes and cancel that bets on NO . It will not be fair ? 

[BetMoose]

I have couple of questions about this .

1. Who decides what is a winning bet ? For example in bet i hosted at the end of month i decide if winning bet is YES (if pd comes out) or NO (if not) , i see a couple of problems there, first i can easily fix the outcome , so lets say even if pd comes out before end i can say it did not come out and let everybody who bet NO to win.

2. I put outcome day at end of month , coz that is when we will see . But what if pd comes out tomorrow? Then i would need to stop the betting right away and everybody who bet on YES to win. I dont see the option to stop the betting before outcome day i setup . (im i missing something) . So then when pd comes out lets say tomorrow people will bet on yes and cancel that bets on NO . It will not be fair ? 

Hey Micro,

Good news; both questions are in our FAQ! I've linked and re-pasted them here for you;

The host decides the winning bet but you should read this:
1. https://www.betmoose.com/faq#hosting6
Why won’t the host just choose whichever option he wants?
Hosts have an incentive to choose the correct outcome as they get a commission from the total bet pot, as well as earn reputation levels. If they choose an incorrect outcome on purpose, not only do they lose a reputation level, but also forfeit the commission. We have a strong verification system in place from both our side (BetMoose moderators) and the bettors themselves - who have 24 hours to submit an ‘incorrect outcome’ report.

(In other words, if you choose the wrong outcome; the bettors, us, or someone passing by will just report your bet This is what makes BetMoose unique - our distributed 2-tier resolution system!)

2. https://www.betmoose.com/faq#resolution4
What happens if the outcome comes true within the specified time period but before the outcome date?
Please report this as “Outcome is known” and specify when you knew it as well as the source for verification. You should also post in the comments to let others know. We will resolve and payout these bets early. Any bets put in after the outcome was known will be returned.

Hope that helps!

[MICRO]

I have couple of questions about this .

1. Who decides what is a winning bet ? For example in bet i hosted at the end of month i decide if winning bet is YES (if pd comes out) or NO (if not) , i see a couple of problems there, first i can easily fix the outcome , so lets say even if pd comes out before end i can say it did not come out and let everybody who bet NO to win.

2. I put outcome day at end of month , coz that is when we will see . But what if pd comes out tomorrow? Then i would need to stop the betting right away and everybody who bet on YES to win. I dont see the option to stop the betting before outcome day i setup . (im i missing something) . So then when pd comes out lets say tomorrow people will bet on yes and cancel that bets on NO . It will not be fair ? 

Hey Micro,

Good news; both questions are in our FAQ! I've linked and re-pasted them here for you;

The host decides the winning bet but you should read this:
1. https://www.betmoose.com/faq#hosting6
Why won’t the host just choose whichever option he wants?
Hosts have an incentive to choose the correct outcome as they get a commission from the total bet pot, as well as earn reputation levels. If they choose an incorrect outcome on purpose, not only do they lose a reputation level, but also forfeit the commission. We have a strong verification system in place from both our side (BetMoose moderators) and the bettors themselves - who have 24 hours to submit an ‘incorrect outcome’ report.

(In other words, if you choose the wrong outcome; the bettors, us, or someone passing by will just report your bet This is what makes BetMoose unique - our distributed 2-tier resolution system!)

2. https://www.betmoose.com/faq#resolution4
What happens if the outcome comes true within the specified time period but before the outcome date?
Please report this as “Outcome is known” and specify when you knew it as well as the source for verification. You should also post in the comments to let others know. We will resolve and payout these bets early. Any bets put in after the outcome was known will be returned.

Hope that helps!

Yes that answered all my questions , tnx and u menaged that much better than i was thinking . Sorry i was being lazy and did not read FAQ .

[BetMoose]

Thanks to Bitcoinist.net for the feature;

http://bitcoinist.net/exclusive-launch-interview-with-betmoose-user-driven-betting-exchange/

We also have a lot of new new improvements/developments being tested right now on our demo server, will hopefully complete them by tonight. One teaser: Markdown formatting is coming to the bet pages - you'll finally be able to make line breaks! (and bold, italic, etc!)

[Nathonas]

Like this site, hopefully more people will start to bet.

[BetMoose]

Glad you like it! First week in the public hands; lots more coming soon!

Will hopefully post that semi-big update tomorrow; we're just dealing with some sockets and server stuff to make sure we stay as secure and reliable as possible.

[freedomno1]

Glad you like it! First week in the public hands; lots more coming soon!

Will hopefully post that semi-big update tomorrow; we're just dealing with some sockets and server stuff to make sure we stay as secure and reliable as possible.

Nice I am enjoying my status as top predictor ha-ha
To be destroyed by that 0.6 BTC bet settling the Bitcoin price at 610 over the weekend

Got to love the coding keep up the good work

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FIFA World Cup ChampionOptions: Brazil | Argentina | Germany | Spain | Other Team

[BetMoose]

Wanted to wish everyone a happy Father's Day, from all of us here at BetMoose!

[jdebunt]

Just did a small article about BetMoose :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/featured-betmoose-the-user-driven-betting-exchange-for-real-life-wagers

Really like the service, will be using this for a loooong time to come

[BetMoose]

Glad you like it! And thanks for your support!

Alright some updates! We actually rolled these out yesterday but I forgot to post about them here

- Markdown added for outcome descriptions and determinations! You can now make line breaks and your text won't be all jumbled up in those boxes!
- QR code deposit under accounts
- Fixed the Rising category to auto-update and load in when moving between the tabs on the /bets page
- FAQ updates and added an introduction to explain the site to new users
- Some graphic improvements
- Filter fixes for some sorting combinations
- Payout emails - you will get an email when your bet has settled
- Fixed a payout front-end display case where you can have a multi-optioned bet that ends up with an outcome no one bet on
- More minor tweaks and improvements

Please let us know if you have any suggestions. We're currently working on a site-wide chat box and activity notifications; as well as streamlining the FAQ.

[omahapoker]

Glad you like it! And thanks for your support!

Alright some updates! We actually rolled these out yesterday but I forgot to post about them here

- Markdown added for outcome descriptions and determinations! You can now make line breaks and your text won't be all jumbled up in those boxes!
- QR code deposit under accounts
- Fixed the Rising category to auto-update and load in when moving between the tabs on the /bets page
- FAQ updates and added an introduction to explain the site to new users
- Some graphic improvements
- Filter fixes for some sorting combinations
- Payout emails - you will get an email when your bet has settled
- Fixed a payout front-end display case where you can have a multi-optioned bet that ends up with an outcome no one bet on
- More minor tweaks and improvements

Please let us know if you have any suggestions. We're currently working on a site-wide chat box and activity notifications; as well as streamlining the FAQ.

keep up the good work. nice design


in a few weeks you willl have 10 pages+ of bets

[BetMoose]

Hey all,

We will have a planned maintenance period tonight at around 11pm for roughly 30minutes.

BetMoose.com will not be available at this time.

We're getting a super awesome chat box!

Hope to see you shortly after.

Love,
The Moose

[Instamatic]

Great looking site and a much needed alternative to casinos.  Congrats on the launch and good luck on the future.

[BetMoose]

Thanks Instamatic,

Alright did a major update to the site yesterday, here's the changelog:

- Chat Box! We got mini games planned for it too stay tuned!
- Few design tweaks and changes
- Main /bets page can now be fitered by closest deadline ("Last Chance")
- "Popularity" sort updated -> Rank = # Bets + 0.5*(#comments) + 0.5*(#follows)
- Rounding extended to 3 decimals for bets > 1 BTC of volume
- Display of 'Hosted Volume' (profile, hosted personal, hosted public) now accurately reflects based on what the hover over says.
- .png uploads with transparency now work
- New techy back-end things - should notice some performance increases site-wide

[BetMoose]

Featured on CryptocoinsNews!

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoins-distributed-betting-market-launched-betmoose/2014/06/21

Anyone want minigames in the chat? We're taking suggestions

[freedomno1]

Featured on CryptocoinsNews!

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoins-distributed-betting-market-launched-betmoose/2014/06/21

Anyone want minigames in the chat? We're taking suggestions

If we can have satoshi credits and some sort of toplist objective perhaps
Imagines an arcade where we compete against each other but what type of mini games did you have in mind?
(Would kill for a FPS server he-he j/k )
http://www.online-fps.com/classics/halo/
Kill your fellow bettors online when you lose against them and win some satoshis (Imagine the advertising)

Anyways congrats on your article

[BetMoose]

Featured on CryptocoinsNews!

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoins-distributed-betting-market-launched-betmoose/2014/06/21

Anyone want minigames in the chat? We're taking suggestions

If we can have satoshi credits and some sort of toplist objective perhaps
Imagines an arcade where we compete against each other but what type of mini games did you have in mind?
(Would kill for a FPS server he-he j/k )
http://www.online-fps.com/classics/halo/
Kill your fellow bettors online when you lose against them and win some satoshis (Imagine the advertising)

Anyways congrats on your article

Lol! Love it. Most our team (including the 1 girl we have) are rabid Halo 1 fans. PC too! I still have that guy's voice in my head; "Capture The Flag" and "Ssssslayer"

Anyway - our idea was actually a text based form of Russian Roulette. Here's how it would work:

-roulette X (starts game with X-shot resolver), eg: -roulette 6

Players type -join to join the game (can join up to the amount of shots in the revolver)

Then players type -bid X where X is their bet

The game normalizes the bets - ie if someone bet 0.1 BTC, 0.1, 0.1, then someone else bet 1 BTC, their bet would be auto-reduced to 0.3 BTC.

Then, a "gun" is passed to a random player in the group, where they have to type -pull which pulls the trigger.

If they survive, they have an option of another -pull or -pass. If they -pull again, it would fire off another chamber and they get a % bonus depending on the chance of death. Otherwise, they pass.

It goes around until someone shoots themselves. Their bid is then split amount the other players depending on the weight and % bonus they had.

[freedomno1]

Featured on CryptocoinsNews!

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoins-distributed-betting-market-launched-betmoose/2014/06/21

Anyone want minigames in the chat? We're taking suggestions

If we can have satoshi credits and some sort of toplist objective perhaps
Imagines an arcade where we compete against each other but what type of mini games did you have in mind?
(Would kill for a FPS server he-he j/k )
http://www.online-fps.com/classics/halo/
Kill your fellow bettors online when you lose against them and win some satoshis (Imagine the advertising)

Anyways congrats on your article

Lol! Love it. Most our team (including the 1 girl we have) are rabid Halo 1 fans. PC too! I still have that guy's voice in my head; "Capture The Flag" and "Ssssslayer"

Anyway - our idea was actually a text based form of Russian Roulette. Here's how it would work:

-roulette X (starts game with X-shot resolver), eg: -roulette 6

Players type -join to join the game (can join up to the amount of shots in the revolver)

Then players type -bid X where X is their bet

The game normalizes the bets - ie if someone bet 0.1 BTC, 0.1, 0.1, then someone else bet 1 BTC, their bet would be auto-reduced to 0.3 BTC.

Then, a "gun" is passed to a random player in the group, where they have to type -pull which pulls the trigger.

If they survive, they have an option of another -pull or -pass. If they -pull again, it would fire off another chamber and they get a % bonus depending on the chance of death. Otherwise, they pass.

It goes around until someone shoots themselves. Their bid is then split amount the other players depending on the weight and % bonus they had.

Very Nice, I know that feeling and his voice is perma locked into my mind  (My only ally Running Riot XD)

His voice never fades away including Territories which was the most annoying of them unless you were OP (I was when we had Halo 3 Ranked Single Player needed mad skill to dodge a Rocket Launcher and needler the other person to doom or sword lunge/ cheat and pick up the overshield then enter the territory immortal to do a takedown.

Halo 1 is the classic one and has my favorite tank the one that does not take damage

I like the Russian Roulette idea sounds like an efficient method that can work in a chatbox

I remember a sword dagger knife gun type game on inputs way back when with different winning odds

Daggers 10% Swords 20% Knife 40% Gun 70% and the winner of that game got the winnings of the next player until they were defeated and the house took a commission.

Sort of like your Russian roulette only the player gets to choose the odds and the amount of Bitcoins needed to use a different weapon weaker weapons have lower odds say below 40 would win etc with a Knife and Below 70 with a gun.

Found it:
http://www.bitcoingg.com/bitcoin-gambling-sites/bitarena/

[BetMoose]

Featured on CryptocoinsNews!

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoins-distributed-betting-market-launched-betmoose/2014/06/21

Anyone want minigames in the chat? We're taking suggestions

If we can have satoshi credits and some sort of toplist objective perhaps
Imagines an arcade where we compete against each other but what type of mini games did you have in mind?
(Would kill for a FPS server he-he j/k )
http://www.online-fps.com/classics/halo/
Kill your fellow bettors online when you lose against them and win some satoshis (Imagine the advertising)

Anyways congrats on your article

Lol! Love it. Most our team (including the 1 girl we have) are rabid Halo 1 fans. PC too! I still have that guy's voice in my head; "Capture The Flag" and "Ssssslayer"

Anyway - our idea was actually a text based form of Russian Roulette. Here's how it would work:

-roulette X (starts game with X-shot resolver), eg: -roulette 6

Players type -join to join the game (can join up to the amount of shots in the revolver)

Then players type -bid X where X is their bet

The game normalizes the bets - ie if someone bet 0.1 BTC, 0.1, 0.1, then someone else bet 1 BTC, their bet would be auto-reduced to 0.3 BTC.

Then, a "gun" is passed to a random player in the group, where they have to type -pull which pulls the trigger.

If they survive, they have an option of another -pull or -pass. If they -pull again, it would fire off another chamber and they get a % bonus depending on the chance of death. Otherwise, they pass.

It goes around until someone shoots themselves. Their bid is then split amount the other players depending on the weight and % bonus they had.

Very Nice, I know that feeling and his voice is perma locked into my mind  (My only ally Running Riot XD)

His voice never fades away including Territories which was the most annoying of them unless you were OP (I was when we had Halo 3 Ranked Single Player needed mad skill to dodge a Rocket Launcher and needler the other person to doom or sword lunge/ cheat and pick up the overshield then enter the territory immortal to do a takedown.

Halo 1 is the classic one and has my favorite tank the one that does not take damage

I like the Russian Roulette idea sounds like an efficient method that can work in a chatbox

I remember a sword dagger knife gun type game on inputs way back when with different winning odds

Daggers 10% Swords 20% Knife 40% Gun 70% and the winner of that game got the winnings of the next player until they were defeated and the house took a commission.

Sort of like your Russian roulette only the player gets to choose the odds and the amount of Bitcoins needed to use a different weapon weaker weapons have lower odds say below 40 would win etc with a Knife and Below 70 with a gun.

Found it:
http://www.bitcoingg.com/bitcoin-gambling-sites/bitarena/

This looks pretty fun and sustainable - why did they shut down?

I kinda like this, let's see if we get more feedback otherwise we may go with this. Plus it's not as...off-putting... as our russian roulette idea lol.

A

[freedomno1]

This looks pretty fun and sustainable - why did they shut down?

I kinda like this, let's see if we get more feedback otherwise we may go with this. Plus it's not as...off-putting... as our russian roulette idea lol.

A

I am fairly sure that they escrowed their coins with inputs.io as they were one of the tab option games people could choose from.
People would play the game from their webwallet for zero confirm faster transactions.
In other words part of the great inputs hack.

Summaries
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576337.0#post_toc_53
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Inputs.io

That or it was one of Tradefortresses multis but the idea of this game is solid.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259386.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259386.msg2788106#msg2788106

[BetMoose]

Just an update: the recent Canadian Bill C-31 (http://www.ahametals.com/canada-signs-first-ever-official-law-regulating-bitcoin/) does not apply to, or worry us. So don't panic if you were thinking about it. Their 'bitcoin dealings' phrase is way too vague to interpret, and the rest seems to be targeted toward exchanges and any bitcoin 'dealers' that work with fiat.

Further, we are not operating IN Canada, and we do not target Canadians. We have an https web server that anyone can access. That's about it from a regulatory standpoint. (We have a lot more but everything is in the cloud and distributed).

Happy betting!

[freedomno1]

In regards to that Betmoose
I push for an early resolution to the Just Dice Profit Table
Since one the condition was met and two well the site is down for the month lol.

Was against it because of variance but there is no variance to speak of now so this bet settles as a Yes  

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Just-Dice JUNE InvestorsOptions: Yes | No

June 1st 17550.624 Final Value 19098.098 As of Just Dice Profit Column Found here
https://just-dice.com/

Just Dice has no more investment or betting occurring  =  1547.474 BTC (Chart is Down now)
But thankfully you guys made snapshots so I can rely on these so in summary done done and done adds a few stamps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg7348001#msg7348001

[BetMoose]

In regards to that Betmoose
I push for an early resolution to the Just Dice Profit Table
Since one the condition was met and two well the site is down for the month lol.

Was against it because of variance but there is no variance to speak of now so this bet settles as a Yes  

___________

Just-Dice JUNE InvestorsOptions: Yes | No

June 1st 17550.624 Final Value 19098.098 As of Just Dice Profit Column Found here
https://just-dice.com/

Just Dice has no more investment or betting occurring  =  1547.474 BTC (Chart is Down now)
But thankfully you guys made snapshots so I can rely on these so in summary done done and done adds a few stamps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg7348001#msg7348001

I thought about this also. You should put in the report if you haven't already. I'm thinking the only reason we wait is just in case something drastic happens and they need to pay something somewhere which comes out of site profits. That is technically a factor here, it's not just profit from the dice rolls.

[freedomno1]

In regards to that Betmoose
I push for an early resolution to the Just Dice Profit Table
Since one the condition was met and two well the site is down for the month lol.

Was against it because of variance but there is no variance to speak of now so this bet settles as a Yes  

___________

Just-Dice JUNE InvestorsOptions: Yes | No

June 1st 17550.624 Final Value 19098.098 As of Just Dice Profit Column Found here
https://just-dice.com/

Just Dice has no more investment or betting occurring  =  1547.474 BTC (Chart is Down now)
But thankfully you guys made snapshots so I can rely on these so in summary done done and done adds a few stamps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg7348001#msg7348001

I thought about this also. You should put in the report if you haven't already. I'm thinking the only reason we wait is just in case something drastic happens and they need to pay something somewhere which comes out of site profits. That is technically a factor here, it's not just profit from the dice rolls.

It shouldn't have any impact on the bets outcome though but I guess your right on that one
Would seem off the resolution rules though since the profit is separate from the bankroll unless it was regressed and done in the next week.
All Cold Storage BTC
Report sent ^^

[BetMoose]

In regards to that Betmoose
I push for an early resolution to the Just Dice Profit Table
Since one the condition was met and two well the site is down for the month lol.

Was against it because of variance but there is no variance to speak of now so this bet settles as a Yes  

___________

Just-Dice JUNE InvestorsOptions: Yes | No

June 1st 17550.624 Final Value 19098.098 As of Just Dice Profit Column Found here
https://just-dice.com/

Just Dice has no more investment or betting occurring  =  1547.474 BTC (Chart is Down now)
But thankfully you guys made snapshots so I can rely on these so in summary done done and done adds a few stamps
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238613.msg7348001#msg7348001

I thought about this also. You should put in the report if you haven't already. I'm thinking the only reason we wait is just in case something drastic happens and they need to pay something somewhere which comes out of site profits. That is technically a factor here, it's not just profit from the dice rolls.

It shouldn't have any impact on the bets outcome though but I guess your right on that one
Would seem off the resolution rules though since the profit is separate from the bankroll unless it was regressed and done in the next week.
All Cold Storage BTC
Report sent ^^

You're probably right (and can consider you have it in the bag) but because it's not 100% determined - ie, the decision logic says 'site profit', which in theory can be impacted from other factors than betting (as a concept anyway).

Rather be safe than sorry on this one.


In other news;

Bitcoingg feature: http://www.bitcoingg.com/betmoose-launches-stands-out-in-prediction-market/

Coinfire.cf interview: http://coinfire.cf/2014/06/24/behind-scenes-betmoose/

Appreciate the support - it's the start of our 3rd week since official public launch and we're already tracking almost 10 BTC in all bets (7.3 active + 2.6 paid out) + approximately ~150 users and counting!

[BetMoose]

Big news today! We have a referral program! We'll be posting this as a separate topic, so here's the rest of the changelog:

- Referral program - 20% revenue share from all referrals for 1 year! Access it through the footer (after logged in), or from the balance page.
- Fixed ROI display formula - if you had 0% ROI, you probably have more now!
- 'Related' section added within the bet page
- Tiles redone a bit with picture up top. Should look more streamlined now (we think so anyway, give it a chance!)
- Chat notifcation pips updated
- Countdown timer added on the bet page
- Logging in/out keeps you on the page you were.
- FAQ additions, typo/grammar changes
- New banner
- Feedback box removed for mobile - should make the mobile experience a bit better.
- Added more performance metrics in the /placedBets/yourusername page.
- Some CSS fixes
- XSS vulnerbility fixes
- Lots of other stuff that you won't notice but is very necessary

[BetMoose]

Minor update this evening:

- Countdown bar appearance tweaks - shift+reload (flush cache) on any /bet page to see the new style.
- FAQ strategy item added - read it! https://www.betmoose.com/faq#betting1
- Other minor stuff

[h0lybyte]

I love all the cute ways to gamble on events

I might go ahead and fight against that june event.

[chipmadness]

This website is amazing! I made a account and placed some bets! Bitcoin better go over 600$ by the end of June!!!! Great job to the developers! I hope this goes big!

[cryptocait]

i placed a bet on the fifa world cup.

[freedomno1]

Big news today! We have a referral program! We'll be posting this as a separate topic, so here's the rest of the changelog:

- Referral program - 20% revenue share from all referrals for 1 year! Access it through the footer (after logged in), or from the balance page.

That is nice to have was wondering if there was a way to implement it into a bet link example in the shared link the code shows

BBCode (forums):

___________

World Cup Champion By GroupOptions: Group A or Group B Team | Group C or Group D Team | Group E or Group F Team | Group G or Group H Team ?ref=freedom

I was wondering if it could link to the referral in the tables as well something like the one above
To refer someone, simply enter in ?ref=freedom at the end of any betmoose.com link. Eg; https://www.betmoose.com/bets?ref=freedom.

Either way great work it looks nicer now and I like the countdown timers

[BetMoose]

Big news today! We have a referral program! We'll be posting this as a separate topic, so here's the rest of the changelog:

- Referral program - 20% revenue share from all referrals for 1 year! Access it through the footer (after logged in), or from the balance page.

That is nice to have was wondering if there was a way to implement it into a bet link example in the shared link the code shows

BBCode (forums):

___________

World Cup Champion By GroupOptions: Group A or Group B Team | Group C or Group D Team | Group E or Group F Team | Group G or Group H Team ?ref=freedom

I was wondering if it could link to the referral in the tables as well something like the one above
To refer someone, simply enter in ?ref=freedom at the end of any betmoose.com link. Eg; https://www.betmoose.com/bets?ref=freedom.

Either way great work it looks nicer now and I like the countdown timers

Hey freedom - yes we contemplated doing it for you automatically but then that would mean we're essentially giving away 20% of our revenue *always*. We feel the sharing of your bets is incentivized by your commission payout; so stacking referral codes on top is a bit much.

That said - yes you're welcome to plug in your ?ref code in there (maybe copy paste it to notepad once you do it once). Plug in "?ref=freedom" at the end of anywhere you see "url=". For the url=blahblah#1, #2 etc, you have to plug in the ref code THEN the #1, so url=yourbet?ref=freedom#1.

Here I did this one for you;

Code:

[table][tr][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][img height=50]https://www.betmoose.com/uploads/img/181.jpg[/img][/url][color=transparent]___________[/color][/td][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][b]World Cup Champion By Group[/b][/url][hr]Options: [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#1][color=#5BC0DE][b]Group A or Group B Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#2][color=#FBB450][b]Group C or Group D Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#3][color=#9067FF][b]Group E or Group F Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#4][color=#40CC97][b]Group G or Group H Team[/b][/color][/url][/td][/tr][/table] 

[freedomno1]

Big news today! We have a referral program! We'll be posting this as a separate topic, so here's the rest of the changelog:

- Referral program - 20% revenue share from all referrals for 1 year! Access it through the footer (after logged in), or from the balance page.

I was wondering if it could link to the referral in the tables as well something like the one above
To refer someone, simply enter in ?ref=freedom at the end of any betmoose.com link. Eg; https://www.betmoose.com/bets?ref=freedom.

Either way great work it looks nicer now and I like the countdown timers

Hey freedom - yes we contemplated doing it for you automatically but then that would mean we're essentially giving away 20% of our revenue *always*. We feel the sharing of your bets is incentivized by your commission payout; so stacking referral codes on top is a bit much.

That said - yes you're welcome to plug in your ?ref code in there (maybe copy paste it to notepad once you do it once). Plug in "?ref=freedom" at the end of anywhere you see "url=". For the url=blahblah#1, #2 etc, you have to plug in the ref code THEN the #1, so url=yourbet?ref=freedom#1.

Here I did this one for you;

Code:

[table][tr][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][img height=50]https://www.betmoose.com/uploads/img/181.jpg[/img][/url][color=transparent]___________[/color][/td][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][b]World Cup Champion By Group[/b][/url][hr]Options: [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#1][color=#5BC0DE][b]Group A or Group B Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#2][color=#FBB450][b]Group C or Group D Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#3][color=#9067FF][b]Group E or Group F Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#4][color=#40CC97][b]Group G or Group H Team[/b][/color][/url][/td][/tr][/table] 

Cool stuff and thanks was just wondering how to do that.

I agree with your point it is overkill to stack a referral on a commission bet
Was just curious if someone else wanted to post a bet but also mention their own referral link in an appropriate topic.
Example the just-dice bet since one was already running and sometimes a duplicate bet would be weird so that users could link their affy to the betters who looked it up.

[BetMoose]

Big news today! We have a referral program! We'll be posting this as a separate topic, so here's the rest of the changelog:

- Referral program - 20% revenue share from all referrals for 1 year! Access it through the footer (after logged in), or from the balance page.

I was wondering if it could link to the referral in the tables as well something like the one above
To refer someone, simply enter in ?ref=freedom at the end of any betmoose.com link. Eg; https://www.betmoose.com/bets?ref=freedom.

Either way great work it looks nicer now and I like the countdown timers

Hey freedom - yes we contemplated doing it for you automatically but then that would mean we're essentially giving away 20% of our revenue *always*. We feel the sharing of your bets is incentivized by your commission payout; so stacking referral codes on top is a bit much.

That said - yes you're welcome to plug in your ?ref code in there (maybe copy paste it to notepad once you do it once). Plug in "?ref=freedom" at the end of anywhere you see "url=". For the url=blahblah#1, #2 etc, you have to plug in the ref code THEN the #1, so url=yourbet?ref=freedom#1.

Here I did this one for you;

Code:

[table][tr][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][img height=50]https://www.betmoose.com/uploads/img/181.jpg[/img][/url][color=transparent]___________[/color][/td][td][url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom][b]World Cup Champion By Group[/b][/url][hr]Options: [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#1][color=#5BC0DE][b]Group A or Group B Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#2][color=#FBB450][b]Group C or Group D Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#3][color=#9067FF][b]Group E or Group F Team[/b][/color][/url] | [url=https://www.betmoose.com/bet/world-cup-champion-by-group-217?ref=freedom#4][color=#40CC97][b]Group G or Group H Team[/b][/color][/url][/td][/tr][/table] 

Cool stuff and thanks was just wondering how to do that.

I agree with your point it is overkill to stack a referral on a commission bet
Was just curious if someone else wanted to post a bet but also mention their own referral link in an appropriate topic.
Example the just-dice bet since one was already running and sometimes a duplicate bet would be weird so that users could link their affy to the betters who looked it up.

If by 'affy' you mean their affiliate/referral codes; then yeah, anyone can click that 'Share' button and share someone elses bet but plug in their ref code inside hehe...

As it stands, we think we have 3 different points of entry for new users - home page, a /bet page and a user's /hostedBets page. I'd imagine seeing the ref codes being applied to one of those 3.

[beetcoin]

cool site.. but like predictious, there doesn't seem to be enough volume or activity. since you guys recently launched, hopefully that will change soon.

[BetMoose]

cool site.. but like predictious, there doesn't seem to be enough volume or activity. since you guys recently launched, hopefully that will change soon.

edit: this is bullshit.. i made a bet with 8 seconds to go, and 4 minutes later someone outbid me.. i don't know how that works, since there were 8 seconds to go and 3 minutes later someone beat me to it. is the timer off or something? initially i thought i had won, because it said the auction was over and i placed the highest bet.

Hey beetcoin,

What bet are you talking about? What do you mean outbid? We use a parimutuel betting model which means everyone's bets on both sides are pooled together and winnings are split depending on how much, and how early you bet. We'll be adding fixed-odds betting in the next 2 weeks which may appeal to our more traditional sportsbook-using folks. Stay tuned for that!


In other news:

We have quite a big site update coming, lots of new stuff and we just keep piling it on our development team who has been working tirelessly the past few weeks, so we'll take the weekend off then you can expect to see lots of improvements on Monday, including 2FA for login, a new category-sorting tab browsing feature, and more!

[beetcoin]

cool site.. but like predictious, there doesn't seem to be enough volume or activity. since you guys recently launched, hopefully that will change soon.

edit: this is bullshit.. i made a bet with 8 seconds to go, and 4 minutes later someone outbid me.. i don't know how that works, since there were 8 seconds to go and 3 minutes later someone beat me to it. is the timer off or something? initially i thought i had won, because it said the auction was over and i placed the highest bet.

Hey beetcoin,

What bet are you talking about? What do you mean outbid? We use a parimutuel betting model which means everyone's bets on both sides are pooled together and winnings are split depending on how much, and how early you bet. We'll be adding fixed-odds betting in the next 2 weeks which may appeal to our more traditional sportsbook-using folks. Stay tuned for that!


In other news:

We have quite a big site update coming, lots of new stuff and we just keep piling it on our development team who has been working tirelessly the past few weeks, so we'll take the weekend off then you can expect to see lots of improvements on Monday, including 2FA for login, a new category-sorting tab browsing feature, and more!

i tried to make a bet 8 seconds before the clock ticked to 0.. and i made it. the thing is though... is that 4 minutes later the auction was still up, even though the click said it was done. a whale jumped in and made the opposite bet.

so in reality, i made a bid 5 minutes before the event was finished, thinking there were literally 8 seconds to go. the timer must have been off on my side, and i don't know why that was.

[BetMoose]

cool site.. but like predictious, there doesn't seem to be enough volume or activity. since you guys recently launched, hopefully that will change soon.

edit: this is bullshit.. i made a bet with 8 seconds to go, and 4 minutes later someone outbid me.. i don't know how that works, since there were 8 seconds to go and 3 minutes later someone beat me to it. is the timer off or something? initially i thought i had won, because it said the auction was over and i placed the highest bet.

Hey beetcoin,

What bet are you talking about? What do you mean outbid? We use a parimutuel betting model which means everyone's bets on both sides are pooled together and winnings are split depending on how much, and how early you bet. We'll be adding fixed-odds betting in the next 2 weeks which may appeal to our more traditional sportsbook-using folks. Stay tuned for that!


In other news:

We have quite a big site update coming, lots of new stuff and we just keep piling it on our development team who has been working tirelessly the past few weeks, so we'll take the weekend off then you can expect to see lots of improvements on Monday, including 2FA for login, a new category-sorting tab browsing feature, and more!

i tried to make a bet 8 seconds before the clock ticked to 0.. and i made it. the thing is though... is that 4 minutes later the auction was still up, even though the click said it was done. a whale jumped in and made the opposite bet.

so in reality, i made a bid 5 minutes before the event was finished, thinking there were literally 8 seconds to go. the timer must have been off on my side, and i don't know why that was.

We're looking into it now - the betting ended at 3pm eastern time - that is the hard-stop value that you can see all the bets adhering to.

We're thinking that one of the following could have happened:

1. Your computer's clock is off - by a LOT (like, 5 minutes)
2. Communication between your browser and computer time (are you using Tor)?
3. Significant lag which caused the script of the timer to slow down then potentially speed up? Just a wild guess here.

The time adjusts to your time-zone too so that shouldn't be an issue.

Might want to look into your configuration because 5 minutes off is not a small glitch and there's no way that the server was off since bets were still accepted right up to 3:00pm EST.

Another thing is - once you MADE the bet with 8 seconds to go, the page would have been refreshed and you would have definitely seen the bet as still open..

[beetcoin]

had i known there were still 5 minutes to go, i wouldn't have made the bet.. of course someone else would have been sitting around waiting to snipe the bet.

im not sure what's up with my clock, but after this incident i don't think it's safe for me to make any further bets until i figure out wtf happened.

[BetMoose]

had i known there were still 5 minutes to go, i wouldn't have made the bet.. of course someone else would have been sitting around waiting to snipe the bet.

im not sure what's up with my clock, but after this incident i don't think it's safe for me to make any further bets until i figure out wtf happened.

Yeah those bets are dangerrousss, at least you didn't bet 2 BTC on Yes, just to get sniped by 2.1 eh

We don't have anything against those whale games, but we do recommend a more fun and fair version with votes (not volume): https://www.betmoose.com/bet/there-will-be-more-yes-than-no-votes-on-this-bet

Hope you figure it out - it may be a much bigger issue on a btc or altcoin exchange btw; if we can help in any way, feel free to drop by in the chat box and we can do some server-sync time checks with you!

Also, 99% of our bets aren't time sensitive like the Yes/No volume ones, in fact, most of them give an advantage for early bettors, so I hope to see you win back that 0.1 with a vengeance on real events!

[beetcoin]

yeah i know.. it's not a good idea for me to play that game though. putting .1 into yes with 5 mins is a terrible decision.. i definitely would not have done that if the clock didn't show 0:08 seconds remaining.

i would recommend anyone else to steer clear from those bets too. the decision is based on who the bigger whale is, and who ends up betting last.

another issue with betting on the price of bitcoin by a certain date is.. if there's a bet that bitcoin will reach $1,000 by the end of the month, for example, and it does indeed reach that point.. a whale could wait until after the event has occurred, but bet has not yet been closed.

[BetMoose]

yeah i know.. it's not a good idea for me to play that game though. putting .1 into yes with 5 mins is a terrible decision.. i definitely would not have done that if the clock didn't show 0:08 seconds remaining.

i would recommend anyone else to steer clear from those bets too. the decision is based on who the bigger whale is, and who ends up betting last.

another issue with betting on the price of bitcoin by a certain date is.. if there's a bet that bitcoin will reach $1,000 by the end of the month, for example, and it does indeed reach that point.. a whale could wait until after the event has occurred, but bet has not yet been closed.

Yeah those whale games are dangerous! But rewarding if you are indeed the bigger whale.

For your second point - that won't happen - we thought of that case ahead of time. When our admins resolve a bet early, they choose the cut-off time so all bets that were put in after the said price target was reached get refunded. Something similar happened here: https://www.betmoose.com/bet/the-chicago-blackhawks-will-win-the-2014-stanley-cup

That said, you do bring up a good point that our hosts should keep in mind: If you're betting on price, make sure your 'waiting period' is significant enough that the late bettors don't get an obvious advantage.

Btw; we're investigating the countdown timer; if we find that count have made it 4 minutes off, we will refund you your 0.1!

[Nathonas]

Loving how fast the website community is growing. Just 2 weeks ago there was barely 10 people on the Hall of Fame, now there's pages of them and more and more bets. And the UI of the site is absolutely awesome.

[BetMoose]

Thanks for your support Nathonas! We have lots more to come; including new betting modes.

For now though; we just updated our site with a pretty big list of new goodies:

- 2FA login with Clef added!
- 2nd layer of tabs added on /bets page for easy sorting
- Hover overs over the coloured volume bars - now shows % expectation based on that bet ("market"), in addition to volume
- Private hosted bets tabs are now loaded with Ajax - should increase the page load performance drastically.
- New metrics added under Profile -> Placed Bets page. ROI calculation fixed, messy rounding addressed.
- Dynamic countdown timer will show 'less than 10 seconds' as it was found to be slightly inaccurate if you leave the page open for a prolonged period of time
- All dates will use a 3 letter short-code for months (Mmm) instead of the full word written out
- Profile -> Placed Bets detail added for closing and resolution times for each bet line
- Minor FAQ changes
- Other good stuff

Next up will be introduction of fixed-odds betting + ability to create your own markets + an API! This one should take us a bit longer and it's unfortunate we're cutting this in front of our already-designed notification center, but we hope it to be more useful to existing and future bettors.

[coinmaster222]

Loving how fast the website community is growing. Just 2 weeks ago there was barely 10 people on the Hall of Fame, now there's pages of them and more and more bets. And the UI of the site is absolutely awesome.

The\is site is so well made and to me that's why it's gaining all this attention. It's surely worth it if you ask me.

[freedomno1]

Thanks for your support Nathonas! We have lots more to come; including new betting modes.

Next up will be introduction of fixed-odds betting + ability to create your own markets + an API! This one should take us a bit longer and it's unfortunate we're cutting this in front of our already-designed notification center, but we hope it to be more useful to existing and future bettors.

Cool stuff, I was wondering what + ability to create your own markets means?
Also sent an army of bets just need to report 1 for an edit out of those

[BetMoose]

Thanks for your support Nathonas! We have lots more to come; including new betting modes.

Next up will be introduction of fixed-odds betting + ability to create your own markets + an API! This one should take us a bit longer and it's unfortunate we're cutting this in front of our already-designed notification center, but we hope it to be more useful to existing and future bettors.

Cool stuff, I was wondering what + ability to create your own markets means?
Also sent an army of bets just need to report 1 for an edit out of those

Yes saw your 'army', very nice - great contracts the lot of them. We definitely want to see a more diverse audience on our site to turn the 'Political' and 'Economy' categories into more of a prediction market. I predict that we'll see quite varied usage in the future depending on category. We also rolled out some SEO tweaks for each bet page so more users should be hitting the site from Google searches now.

I also didn't understand your edit request - your title and logic said 'By September', why would you want the outcome set to August 1st?

For ability to create your own markets: we are still thinking about the best, most-betmoosy way to introduce odds betting, but what we've conceptualized now is you will be able to create a bet (aka "market") with set odds. There will likely be a minimum 10 BTC requirement to create any fixed-odds markets (as you act as your own 'house' counterparty to them). Bettors will be able to place up to the payout of the pot (so, 10 BTC in the minimum example), on either side at the odds being offered by the host. The host can change the odds to help balance the sides, or can deposit more liquidity once the max is hit (if it's hit). Also, bets on both sides free up the initial liquidity (as the bets will be matched). Any unmatched liquidity is obviously returned to the host at the end as well. The tricky part is not upsetting users who may want to create the same bet but with better odds (since we don't want duplicates), so it's possible we might go with a flexible odds setup like betfair, where we have back/lays within each market.

We really want to keep a more social, simplified feel though so it's definitely a tricky bit. Lots of shower thinking

[freedomno1]

Thanks for your support Nathonas! We have lots more to come; including new betting modes.

Next up will be introduction of fixed-odds betting + ability to create your own markets + an API! This one should take us a bit longer and it's unfortunate we're cutting this in front of our already-designed notification center, but we hope it to be more useful to existing and future bettors.

Cool stuff, I was wondering what + ability to create your own markets means?
Also sent an army of bets just need to report 1 for an edit out of those

Yes saw your 'army', very nice - great contracts the lot of them. We definitely want to see a more diverse audience on our site to turn the 'Political' and 'Economy' categories into more of a prediction market. I predict that we'll see quite varied usage in the future depending on category. We also rolled out some SEO tweaks for each bet page so more users should be hitting the site from Google searches now.

I also didn't understand your edit request - your title and logic said 'By September', why would you want the outcome set to August 1st?

For ability to create your own markets: we are still thinking about the best, most-betmoosy way to introduce odds betting, but what we've conceptualized now is you will be able to create a bet (aka "market") with set odds. There will likely be a minimum 10 BTC requirement to create any fixed-odds markets (as you act as your own 'house' counterparty to them). Bettors will be able to place up to the payout of the pot (so, 10 BTC in the minimum example), on either side at the odds being offered by the host. The host can change the odds to help balance the sides, or can deposit more liquidity once the max is hit (if it's hit). Also, bets on both sides free up the initial liquidity (as the bets will be matched). Any unmatched liquidity is obviously returned to the host at the end as well. The tricky part is not upsetting users who may want to create the same bet but with better odds (since we don't want duplicates), so it's possible we might go with a flexible odds setup like betfair, where we have back/lays within each market.

We really want to keep a more social, simplified feel though so it's definitely a tricky bit. Lots of shower thinking

I meant the date to make the bet would be set for August 1st from August 31st since I wanted a bet that had a volatility range from the Settlement date.
The settlement date is still September 1st, I just wanted to add a little margin this time to differentiate from the previous one I made to avoid too much last minute waiting on it
It's fine to delete the Litcoin one as well since it hasn't been bid on yet I'll just remake it with the adjusted date since I didn't want to have a dupe around.

In regards to Fix Odds betting very nice I like the idea since its winner takes all or 1 Vs 100 ^_^
In prediction terms ha-ha although I'm not sure if it is possible to set a multi stage prediction game where you choose from multiple choices with the person at the end who survived all the rounds getting the prize and winning the pot or winning most of the pot and the last survivors getting a little bit of it when eliminated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_vs._100_(Xbox_360_video_game)

Still neat stuff

@ WC ... WOW Brazil

@ Sorry for messing these bet times a lot more than I expect to U_U

[BetMoose]

We are planning on introducing 'Versus' mode which is a slight spin-off to our parimutuel betting model. In Versus mode, bets must be matched, or are otherwise refunded. This means winnings will be capped at 2x (you can win double your money maximum), however, if you bet 10 BTC vs 1 BTC the max you can lose is 1 BTC (9 BTC will be refunded). This should encourage larger bets with downside protection.

Here's the question; Do we still 'pool' bets based on weight and time or do we adopt a 'first come first serve' matching model?

Example:

Let's say Yes has 0 and No has 0 (bet start)

First method: (assume time multipliers fixed at 1x)
Person A places 10 BTC on Yes.
Person B places 5 BTC on No.
Person C places 10 BTC on Yes.

A wins: Person A and C walk away with 12.5 BTC (half the opposite pot based on their weight).
B wins: Person A and C lose 2.5 BTC; B walks away with 10 BTC, A and C walk away with 7.5 each.

Second Method:
Person A places 10 BTC on Yes.
Person B places 5 BTC on No.
Person C placed 10 BTC on Yes.

A wins: Person A walks away with 15 BTC as it's a first-come-first serve model. Person C gets 10 BTC back.
B wins: Person A loses 5 BTC, walks away with 5 BTC, Person B walks away with 10, Person C walks away with 10.

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Thoughts on this?

[BetMoose]

Just did another site update! We now have an activity center that will act like your social hub! #Community! <3

Here's the changelog:

- Notification center! Here you will see all placed bets and comments on bets that you hosted or are following (yes this means the Follow functionality is useful now!), as well as any mentions:
- Mention/Tagging functionality added to comments; just do @Username and that user will get a notification of your tag
- Styling improvements to all pages affected by our shortened date codes last update
- Hover over added over Total Winnings and Accuracy to answer questions we've been getting
- Reshuffled the category tabs on /bets page to present the more popular categories first
- Track Anon Bet page cleaned up
- 'Place Anonymously' now written on bet slips when not logged in as some people completely miss that functionality
- Other minor tweaks and improvements

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We're also doing a public outreach; if you looked at BetMoose and didn't use it - why not? Please let us know!

[Bit_Happy]

BetMoose is the world's first "all-in-one" - social, feature-rich, distributed P2P betting exchange and prediction market.
Some may also relate us to 'Proposition Betting', or 'Wagering'.
We don't like to be immediately associated with gambling though - BetMoose can also be used as a crowd-pooled futures contract exchange between multiple parties.

https://www.betmoose.com

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Good luck with your prophecies and predictions!

BetMoose.com looks great!
I'm going to think of some good predictions/bets to create.

[BetMoose]

Site update! Please empty your browser caches if you are a returning visitor!

Changelog:

- Added some magic to the /bets page which should increase performance significantly; should be very noticeable on mobile.
- Filtering and Sorting functionality added to your profile Placed Bets page.
- Notification center styling fixes and improvements
- Mobile Navigation and Chat Improvements
- "Placed Bets" column added to the Hall of Fame
- Paid out Bets metric added to profile Placed Bets
- Tagging in comment style change
- Mentioning bug fix where you would get unnecessary notifications on a bet you were mentioned on previously
- Other miscellaneous UX, UI and bug fixes + improvements

[BetMoose]

A minor site update has just been rolled out:

- Changed the mobile navigation and chat - the site should act much more efficient now on mobile and be easier to use!
- Hall of Fame ranking has been updated based on Total Profit instead of Total Winnings - rank is now calculated as follows: Total Profit + TP * (ROI/100) + TP * (Acc/100)
- Hover-over added explaining what Follow bet does.
- Usability improvements for admin and support things
- Some security improvements
- Spam control added on the feedback box - 1 feedback submission per minute
- Other minor bug fixes, tweaks and improvements.

[BetMoose]

Site update! This one is pretty minor as we continue our work on implementing fixed-odds betting!

- Few changes and new additions to the stats shown in Profile and Profile/Placed Bets pages.
- Anon bet tracker page styling fixed
- Min-site height updated so there shouldn't be empty trailing spaces on some shorter pages.
- Lots of little mobile tweaks and fixes.
- Settings added as part of the profile drop-down
- Better visual cues added for filtering the Legend items in the Profile Placed Bets section
- 'Featured' tag added for featured bets
- Unconfirmed bets addressed within the anon tracker and profile placed bets, plus a hover over added to explain what it means

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Also a special thanks to Ellen from bitcoingg and congratulations on their launch of Bets Bitcoin Casinos UK!

Check out our feature and snazzy logo job! http://www.bestbitcoincasinos.co.uk/review/betmoose/

[BetMoose]

I'm happy to announce a major update to BetMoose today: fixed-odds betting and live betting! Have a look at the demo:
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/demo-fixed-odds-bet-805

In addition, lots of other fixes and improvements, here's the changelog as always:

- Introduction of fixed-odds bet types. There's too much to write here about this new betting mode, but something that may not be obvious on the site is that you have a new page within your Profile->Placed Bets called 'My Offers' where you can easily manage all of your lay bets. Also note some new FAQ items and old ones changed to reflect this core site update.
- Real-time updating within all bet pages. This means you will see bet data updated live from within that page. This feature is still experimental. If in doubt, please refresh.
- Related to the above, the buttons for placing bets now animate nicely to show you all the states of placing your bet!
- New site banner as well as some changes to the home page copy.
- Making errors on the new bet page now saves all of your work (except the picture upload)
- Minor formatting adjustments for profile and placed bet stats, changed resolved bets on profile to 'paid out wagers' and used similar text for consistency in the placed bet page as well.
- Admins now have the ability to de-list bets, this means if you created an obvious duplicate we will likely just delist it instead of cancelling it. This way, any matched bets are still good.
- New email service and template, please let us know if there are any issues with your email notifications or their appearance!
- 'Rising' sort changed to 'Hot'. This is purely a cosmetic change, no functionality has been altered.
HoF rankings adjusted, again, sorry. I think you'll appreciate the new ranking system. Also added a little box at the top right of the Hall explaining how it's calculated if you're curious about the change.
- Modified the Terms to include the Privacy Policy of us using your email to send important info and notifications.
- Fixed getting notifications for when anonymous users place something on your hosted and followed bets.
- Fixed the favicon of our site on Internet Explorer and some mobile configurations
- Reversed page titles so if you have lots of tabs open it'll display the page title first
- Dozens of other tweaks, fixes, improvements, and additions

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We would like to reach out to you market makers and affiliate folks out there who may be interested in taking advantage of this flexible opportunity to make your own book on any event. As far as we know, this is the world's first platform which enables you to run your own (say sportsbook) without any setup required. We would like to hear your suggestions as we build our API for specifically this purpose next. The API will enable you to run our back-end on your completely detached front-end, for free. Please PM or post any open discussion here!

[BetMoose]

Site update!

Thanks to everyone for their feedback.

- Offering odds now shows your Lay Odds (the odds you get from the offer) on the slip
- Sound added to chat notifications with a sound toggle
- Reputation system - now using cicles that add as you level up, with grey circles representing a new/level 0 host
- Time box fixed on the New Bet page
- Fixed using 'Tab' on your keyboard to move between the correct input boxes on the New Bet page
- Fixed the payout calculator on the My Offers page
- Changed the Fixed odds backer slips to show 'Try something lower' if you enter an amount that cannot be matched
- Added 2 images and clarifications to the FAQ (questions 1 and 2) distinguishing FO and Pari bets.
- Took out 'resolved bets' as a metric, instead added reputation. Note: all of our users have excellent reputation currently, this will be linked up with a proper algorithm later
- Changed minimum initial offer of fixed odds bets to 0.01, updated tooltips
- Added an alert if you accidentally hit 'back' or 'reload' on a bet page so you don't lose your input
- Fixed email duplicate sending on bet resolution and payout if you have multiple wagers within the same bet
- Fixed trending tags in the filter to actually show trending tags
- Fixed email notifications to those offering odds (layers) and hosts with only offers.
- Added a view filter to your public hosted bets page
- Fixed the https 'some content cannot be delivered securely' issue.
- Other misc optimizations, fixes, adjustments

[doof]

Hi moose, im struggling to lay a bet. Trying to lay 5:1 fixed, but don't understand your x box interface.  Cant find anything on the help.  Can you explain how to lay fixed odds?

[BetMoose]

Hi moose, im struggling to lay a bet. Trying to lay 5:1 fixed, but don't understand your x box interface.  Cant find anything on the help.  Can you explain how to lay fixed odds?

We currently display decimal odds, so 5/1 is 6.00x. In the lay slip, you're setting the odds the backer will get, so if you offer 6.00x to the backer, that means your "lay odds" are 1.20x - if you lay 1 BTC and win, you'll get 1.2 back.

You can use the odds converter here: http://oddsconverter.co.uk

You'd be surprised how much easier decimals are than fractions, but we do plan to add a built in converter, sorry about the confusion!

Hope that helps!

[BetMoose]

Site update!

- Graphics Added (background) behind each category on the /bets page.
- Page "Views" counter added on all bet pages and your public hosted bets page. Please note; these views have only been counted from September 16th, so will be significantly understated (could be 0) for many bets created before that time.
- Market Depth added to FO bets along with 'Offered Volume' total on the main bet page.
- Stats fixed within Placed Bets/HoF sections for anyone who has been betting within FO bets. This also now includes the backed volume as part of your hosted volume level requirement.
- Options now accept "<" symbols.
- Front page banner and spacing modified, should be better now for those with smaller resolutions.
- Fixed filtering fixed-odds bets in your placed bets page
- HoF +/- column updating fixed - this was actually fixed last week.
- Some minor security issues patched up (thanks folks from CrowdCurity!)
- Other minor fixes and improvements

[Mastergerund]

I have posted all the NFL games for this weekend for anyone interested.

[BetMoose]

I have posted all the NFL games for this weekend for anyone interested.

Awesome bets Mastergerund, just wondering - how did you decide those initial odd spreads?

[Mastergerund]

Thanksgiving NFL games are up. Weekend games will be posted after Thanksgiving games settle.

[Mastergerund]

Can I make a suggestion?  There could be a feature where a bet result can be certified after the host determines the outcome. Once a result has been certified by all bettors, the payments can be automatically released, instead of everyone having to wait out the 24 hrs.

Just a suggestion. Great experience so far! Keep up the good work. 

[BetMoose]

That feature is actually on our list. It's kind of a low priority as that feature becomes more and more meaningless as the bets get larger (you'll likely approach the 24hr period anyway + the bettors that lost might not want to bother logging in to verify...)

We have a similar feature on the shorter list - 'Fast Payout' bets where our admins will either resolve themselves or process the payout quickly for easy-to-resolve bets to eliminate the 24hr hold. That will speed things up.

Thanks and glad you like it! Remember we have a 20% revenue share for 1yr for any of your fiat-friends that want to try out the bitcoin world!

All future feedback always welcome.

[DiCE1904]

Surprised this doesn't have more action: https://www.betmoose.com/bet/floyd-mayweather-jr-vrs-manny-pacquiao-fight-1150

[EternalWingsofGod]

Surprised this doesn't have more action: https://www.betmoose.com/bet/floyd-mayweather-jr-vrs-manny-pacquiao-fight-1150

It's definitely going to be an interesting fight
A lot of love for Pacquiao while mayweather seems to be a deal in comparison then again there can only be one winner
Guess any Mayweather bettors would have a good edge here.

[DiCE1904]

Surprised this doesn't have more action: https://www.betmoose.com/bet/floyd-mayweather-jr-vrs-manny-pacquiao-fight-1150

It's definitely going to be an interesting fight
A lot of love for Pacquiao while mayweather seems to be a deal in comparison then again there can only be one winner
Guess any Mayweather bettors would have a good edge here.

Going to be a good one for sure. Looks like that bet closed but there are two others still open.

[danielca9]

This is truly nice I enjoy it thanks for posting it

[BetMoose]

We've been behind the curtains for the last little while but there is a big decision coming up that should have some far-reaching implications. Now would be a good time to put in your prediction:

___________

Grexit, Greek bailout referendum, 2015Options: Yes | No

[meadefreling]

I will like to know if the bitcoin betting on your website works like binary betting we see in currencies.

[BetMoose]

I will like to know if the bitcoin betting on your website works like binary betting we see in currencies.

Not exactly. Although we have the same idea, the payout structure is different. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_betting

and from our FAQ:

1. How is the payout calculated for parimutuel bets?
If you are correct, your payout is (your bet) + [(your weighted bet) / (total weighted volume on your side) * (total volume to be split among the winners)]. "Weighted" means (time-multiplier * bet amount) and doesn't apply to 'Unweighted' bets. Payouts are also deducted 3% which is shared between the host and BetMoose.

We have a second payout method known as "fixed odds" bets. The bets that are using the traditional, "fixed odds" payout scheme are clearly marked different than our normal, parimutuel style. Here's an example: https://www.betmoose.com/faq#betting1

[Rmcdermott927]

This site seems like a great place for people like me who like to bet on literally everything.  Betting on sports is fun, but really, how many people can say that they are addicted to gambling enough to have bet on the date of the first hurricane warning?

[EternalWingsofGod]

This site seems like a great place for people like me who like to bet on literally everything.  Betting on sports is fun, but really, how many people can say that they are addicted to gambling enough to have bet on the date of the first hurricane warning?

That is what makes it amusing though if you can find a bet people want to join in on, it doesn't really matter what it is so you have the freedom to make weird ones like that ha-ha.

[Swisswatcher]

I like it

[Jamphone]

This is what I've been waiting for since InTrade closed shop. I was all over that last US election.

[BetMoose]

An important notice to all UK-based users:

The UK Gambling Commission has been pressuring BetMoose to IP block UK users from accessing the site. This is unfortunate as we have proposed other solutions which the commission has rejected. We have offered to pay for the license but the UK commission does not accept Bitcoin (and we do not transact with fiat). This means that in a few weeks time, users with UK-based IP addresses will not be able to use the site.

If you are a UK user, don't worry - your funds and account is safe (and will always be).
We strongly recommend exploring VPN and/or proxy solutions, such as our friends over at http://www.vpnreactor.com/

In addition, here are some top suggestions from Google. Once setup, all these methods are very convenient to use, and may have other beneficial side effects such as the ability to stream US shows and Netflix:

http://techpp.com/2009/07/09/top-5-free-vpn-clients/
http://freevpnaccess.com/

If anyone from the community wants to add anything, please do!

Adam

[EternalWingsofGod]

If anyone from the community wants to add anything, please do!

Adam

Just a bit curious if the Bitlicense in New York has any impact on Betmoose
Or if it doesn't affect US users.

[BetMoose]

No effect as we know it at this point. From our understanding, the Bitlicense laws are focused more towards exchanges and establishments where BTC->Fiat and vise-versa. Because BetMoose is Bitcoin-only, it is unlikely that we will come under any regulatory pressure in the near future. In any case, it seems that IP blocking is a satisfactory way of avoiding certain laws, and VPNs will continue to increase in popularity as a result.

There's no such thing as true censorship when you have the internet.

[freedomno1]

Thinking about it wanted to put some life into this thread
- Was wondering if we could put user generated bets in this thread instead of a new gambling thread for bets as it seems like an appropriate use of the gambling section.

[sportfan]

Thinking about it wanted to put some life into this thread
- Was wondering if we could put user generated bets in this thread instead of a new gambling thread for bets as it seems like an appropriate use of the gambling section.

this was unnessesery

[EternalWingsofGod]

Thinking about it wanted to put some life into this thread
- Was wondering if we could put user generated bets in this thread instead of a new gambling thread for bets as it seems like an appropriate use of the gambling section.

this was unnessesery

Looking up your posts I would disagree mate and it's a fair question they wanted to know if they should just open up gambling threads or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=443438;sa=showPosts;start=40

[BetMoose]

Hey freedom,

We wouldn't mind, as long as I'm assuming you're planning to host these on BetMoose!

P.S: Sorry for the hiatus everyone, we're in between scaling our infrastructure (we're running a bank in addition to a betting exchange here!), fixing known bugs, and working on a new site expansion. It's 95% of the way there but the other stuff has been getting in the way. Will hopefully have something soon!

P.P.S: In addition to the note above, you may have noticed deposits/withdrawals are currently extremely delayed/not being processed - that's because our node is resyncing and it's taking forever. Sorry about that!

Adam

[freedomno1]

Hey freedom,

We wouldn't mind, as long as I'm assuming you're planning to host these on BetMoose!

P.P.S: In addition to the note above, you may have noticed deposits/withdrawals are currently extremely delayed/not being processed - that's because our node is resyncing and it's taking forever. Sorry about that!

Adam

Ha-ha I was wondering why it was taking so long it'll get there eventually thanks for the heads up
And but of course just waiting for some interesting news to make a wager for
Thanks.

[freedomno1]

The value of Bitcoin is rising fast enough that I think it's worth sharing this crazy bet

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Bitcoin Will Pass $1600 By the End of this YearOptions: Yes | No

[Jamphone]

Can we please get this one paid out and resolved? Or just cancel the bet and give us our money back? BitStamp and Bitfinex both crossed over $500. And I've e-mailed Bitpay and they won't give me their historical data.

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-will-break-500usd-before-january-1-2016-1215

[BetMoose]

Sorry Jamphone - we can't just decide bets because 'someone saw it'. We didn't see it; and there's no other evidence presented that it did in fact happen..

Just to be clear; it's possible that it did in fact happen, but without valid proof, the next person will say 'No it didn't happen'. Who's right then?

[Jamphone]

Sorry Jamphone - we can't just decide bets because 'someone saw it'. We didn't see it; and there's no other evidence presented that it did in fact happen..

Just to be clear; it's possible that it did in fact happen, but without valid proof, the next person will say 'No it didn't happen'. Who's right then?

So therefore - you should annul the bet. Otherwise it is unfair. The creator did not choose a metric with historical data. What is the other option? By allowing it to continue - and on Dec 31 going "hey, nobody saw it cross $500" - you've already told me you've decided it didn't happen.

[BetMoose]

The resolution will be 'No' if it never crosses $500 by EoY, which is different than cancelling the bet. The metrics the host has chosen are legitimate, and we can't nullify it because someone 'said they saw it'. Think about a court room where you have a murder victim with a suspect but no murder weapon. The suspect goes free unless proven guilty. The same thing applies here. We have no concrete evidence to resolve "Yes". Likewise, we can't just 'end his trial' without hearing all evidence. In this case, Bitcoin is below $500 (as evidenced right now). Therefore there will be an outcome here unless Bitpay shuts down.

I am sorry as you may be correct. But we cannot pick your side without seeing valid proof, or it will seem unfair from the other side (those 'who never saw it go above $500 - no way!')

Adam

[Jamphone]

The resolution will be 'No' if it never crosses $500 by EoY, which is different than cancelling the bet. The metrics the host has chosen are legitimate, and we can't nullify it because someone 'said they saw it'. Think about a court room where you have a murder victim with a suspect but no murder weapon. The suspect goes free unless proven guilty. The same thing applies here. We have no concrete evidence to resolve "Yes". Likewise, we can't just 'end his trial' without hearing all evidence. In this case, Bitcoin is below $500 (as evidenced right now). Therefore there will be an outcome here unless Bitpay shuts down.

I am sorry as you may be correct. But we cannot pick your side without seeing valid proof, or it will seem unfair from the other side (those 'who never saw it go above $500 - no way!')

Adam

I'm a lawyer and am well aware of how a court works. (Edit: For arguments sake, civil courts operate on a "balance of probabilities" standard, which in the absence of historical data would be the price on other exchanges. So I would win in court.)

So we're all straight here: because Bitpay refuses to give me historical data I lose by default.

I would be satisfied if you agree not to pay out the "no" side unless they can prove it didn't cross $500 as well by providing historical data. Otherwise, this simply isn't fair.

BitPay's price is based on internal factors that they are unwilling to share, hence why they won't show the historical data.

In retrospect, the creator picked a really dumb metric.

Further edit: thank you for explaining yourself! I do like your site and am hoping we can sort this out. I think I bet $7 on this... but its the principal!

[BetMoose]

Totally hear you there about principle. Do you have any historical data which shows other exchanges/market rate(s) going above $500 USD?

Thanks,

[Jamphone]

Totally hear you there about principle. Do you have any historical data which shows other exchanges/market rate(s) going above $500 USD?

Thanks,

A lot of historical data is available, Bitcoinwisdom and BitcoinCharts has Bitstamp, itBit and Bitfinex crossing $500 USD on November 4th. Coinbase hit 499.85, so obviously close. Bitpay apparently uses a basket, but its confidential so we'll never know what weighting each exchange got.

[BetMoose]

Ok; we looked into this both independently and also acquired 1m interval rates from bitcoinaverage, which use a similar volume-weighted formula to BitPay.

Please see here for the data: https://mega.nz/#!LlkEyA6a
Key: !CdQqTOTsr__KIXDzFEEgplIE-OFzVud9S1GDvhSd7YU

We have also discussed with the rest of the BetMoose team and have concluded the technically just course of action here is cancelling the bet.

FYI Jamphone this would have been a lot easier if you provided some data to work with so we didn't have to spend time pulling it ourselves!

Cheers,

[Jamphone]

FYI Jamphone this would have been a lot easier if you provided some data to work with so we didn't have to spend time pulling it ourselves!

Sorry - I was watching it hop over $500 for a few minutes - didn't even occur to me to bring data off the bat, but of course I should have. Thanks!

[S3cco]

I just created 3 bets for you guys! Enjoy!

Will Ethereum hit $95,000,000 in market cap in first half of 2016? (BETTING CLOSE: 01 Jun 2016)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/ethereum-to-hit-95m-market-cap-before-jul-1-2016-1366?ref=scacco

Will Monacoin hit $3,000,000 in market cap in first half of 2016? (BETTING CLOSE: 01 Jun 2016)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/monacoin-to-hit-3-000-000-market-cap-before-lug-1-2016-1363?ref=scacco

Will Orbitcoin hit $155,000 in market cap in first half of 2016? (BETTING CLOSE: 01 Jun 2016)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/orbitcoin-to-hit-155-000-market-cap-before-lug-1-2016-1362?ref=scacco

[BetMoose]

Hey everyone, we just released a new site expansion.

Check out MoosePicks - it's a weekly skill-based lottery on the USDBTC price result!

https://www.betmoose.com/picks/usdbtc/

Have fun!

[trickshot22]

Hey everyone, we just released a new site expansion.

Check out MoosePicks - it's a weekly skill-based lottery on the USDBTC price result!

https://www.betmoose.com/picks/usdbtc/

Have fun!

i really like the opportunity that you give to play and bet on bitcoin price, i have always been looking for something like that and i found it now, keep up the great work with your gambling website

[elm]

Hey everyone, we just released a new site expansion.

Check out MoosePicks - it's a weekly skill-based lottery on the USDBTC price result!

https://www.betmoose.com/picks/usdbtc/

Have fun!

only the exact prediction wins?

can I give more than 1 prediction?

where can I see the predictions of other participants?

is this provably fair?

[BetMoose]

Hey everyone, we just released a new site expansion.

Check out MoosePicks - it's a weekly skill-based lottery on the USDBTC price result!

https://www.betmoose.com/picks/usdbtc/

Have fun!

only the exact prediction wins?

can I give more than 1 prediction?

where can I see the predictions of other participants?

is this provably fair?

only the exact prediction wins?
>Rules are defined. Only exact prediction wins, but the pot carries over to next week in the event of no winners.

can I give more than 1 prediction?
>Yes you can drag-select and pick multiple, or use the manual input. In fact, you get discounts the more you pick.

where can I see the predictions of other participants?
>Predictions by other participants are in the Orange colour on the Grid. In the future we'll show the amounts there as well.

is this provably fair?
>We're using the bitcoinaverage API source, as defined (little link under the green chart). The first result we receive from their API at 23:00 UTC on the date specified is the result we use.

[Temo58]

1 bet completing in 141 days?  are you kidding and what odds you have

Etherenum - $ 78,749,500  - and there bet option is 95KK.

[BetMoose]

1 bet completing in 141 days?   are you kidding and what odds you have

Etherenum - $ 78,749,500  - and there bet option is 95KK.

Hi Temo,

For our main 'Predictions' part of the site, users create their own bets. This host (author of the bet) decided to structure the bet like that. You can create your own bet if you don't like his.

For the odds, they are determined by the people betting. For example, betting 0.5 BTC on that ethereum bet on 'No' would pay out 2.48 BTC.

[Temo58]

1 bet completing in 141 days?   are you kidding and what odds you have

Etherenum - $ 78,749,500  - and there bet option is 95KK.

Hi Temo,

For our main 'Predictions' part of the site, users create their own bets. This host (author of the bet) decided to structure the bet like that. You can create your own bet if you don't like his.

For the odds, they are determined by the people betting. For example, betting 0.5 BTC on that ethereum bet on 'No' would pay out 2.48 BTC.

"You can create your own bet if you don't like his. "

for creating opinion i will get money ? or i must pay for creating opinion ?

[BetMoose]

1 bet completing in 141 days?   are you kidding and what odds you have

Etherenum - $ 78,749,500  - and there bet option is 95KK.

Hi Temo,

For our main 'Predictions' part of the site, users create their own bets. This host (author of the bet) decided to structure the bet like that. You can create your own bet if you don't like his.

For the odds, they are determined by the people betting. For example, betting 0.5 BTC on that ethereum bet on 'No' would pay out 2.48 BTC.

"You can create your own bet if you don't like his. "

for creating opinion i will get money ? or i must pay for creating opinion ?

Creating bets is free, and yes, you get a small commission from the total of all bets for successfully created and resolved bets. As a new user, you would get 0.5% from the total bet volume.

[S3cco]

Three more bets related to same of the top altcoins:

Will Bitshares hit $12,000,000 market cap in first half of 2016? (END: 10:00PM, May 31, 2016 UTC)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitshares-to-hit-12m-market-cap-before-jul-1-2016-1382?ref=scacco

Will Dogecoin hit $24,000,000 market cap in first half of 2016? (END: 10:00PM, May 31, 2016 UTC)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/dogecoin-to-hit-24m-market-cap-before-jul-1-2016-1370?ref=scacco

Will Ripple hit $350,000,000 market cap in first half of 2016? (END: 10:00PM, May 31, 2016 UTC)
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/ripple-to-hit-350m-market-cap-before-jul-1-2016-1402?ref=scacco

[-XXIII-]

Hey betmoose staff, after discovering this site last week, I'm so far loving it! If it's cool, I have a request when you have the time to compete it. Would it be at all possible to extend the session time of the login cookie? Or even include an option to 'keep me logged in'? I find myself logging in too often.
This would make me happy, thank you again for the site, will be a regular for a while I'm sure 

[BetMoose]

Hey betmoose staff, after discovering this site last week, I'm so far loving it! If it's cool, I have a request when you have the time to compete it. Would it be at all possible to extend the session time of the login cookie? Or even include an option to 'keep me logged in'? I find myself logging in too often.
This would make me happy, thank you again for the site, will be a regular for a while I'm sure 

Glad you like it! Will definitely have a look at this. I think it's 30 minutes right now, might push it out to an hour.

Thanks

[m4king]

Hi, great site.

Is it allowed to make non-time weighted propositions which are duplicates of time weighted ones?

For example there are a few Time Weighted Boxing or MMA propositions and timed weighted is not really appropriate for these bets. It discourages late betting which would be the majority of bets for this sort of sport, people wanting to bet on the day. Information is known in advanced, odds will not change drastically, time weighted is not needed.

Cheers,

[BetMoose]

Hi, great site.

Is it allowed to make non-time weighted propositions which are duplicates of time weighted ones?

For example there are a few Time Weighted Boxing or MMA propositions and timed weighted is not really appropriate for these bets. It discourages late betting which would be the majority of bets for this sort of sport, people wanting to bet on the day. Information is known in advanced, odds will not change drastically, time weighted is not needed.

Cheers,

Yes you can - the time-weight is optional and is a simple toggle when you create a new prop.

All the bets are user-created, and we admit some are below-par in terms of quality - you do not need to bet on those, feel free to create near-duplicates but with proper conditions.

[-XXIII-]

Hello again BetMoose team!

Found out a couple formatting tricks, and a potential bug (not going to revive the support thread to check)

Consecutive hyphens make a horizonal rule.
Any line followed by a line containing consecutive hyphens will render the text on said line as heading text. This behaviour is prevented by adding a blank newline between the line of text and the hyphens.

I don't know whether or not this was intentional, but it causes some space issues (this is the potential bug). I looked through the FAQ and didn't immediately see anything concerning text formatting. Are there any other formatting tricks? Is it possible to add a blank newline? I've tried combinations of spaces and newlines and it always gets trimmed.

Example:
This code produced the followed image:

Code:

Senators vs. Canucks @ Vancouver
Game starts Thursday, Feb 25, 10:00 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/ott-vs-van/2016/02/25/2015020914

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Ottawa Senators [29-26-6] (Atlantic Division) nhl.com/senators
Vancouver Canucks [23-24-12] (Pacific Division) nhl.com/canucks

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Bets close on puck-drop, 3 hours given for outcome
Games can be watched live online, use google to find livestream.

While this code produced this image:

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Senators vs. Canucks @ Vancouver
Game starts Thursday, Feb 25, 10:00 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/ott-vs-van/2016/02/25/2015020914
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Ottawa Senators [29-26-6] (Atlantic Division) nhl.com/senators
Vancouver Canucks [23-24-12] (Pacific Division) nhl.com/canucks
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Bets close on puck-drop, 3 hours given for outcome
Games can be watched live online, use google to find livestream.

Cheers from the Maritimes!

[adaseb]

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/the-45th-u_s_-president-in-2016-1400


I am really surprised that Trump doesn't have the main lead here. In most polls he comes in number 1. And Sanders seems to be doing poorly recently.

[BetMoose]

Hello again BetMoose team!

Found out a couple formatting tricks, and a potential bug (not going to revive the support thread to check)

Consecutive hyphens make a horizonal rule.
Any line followed by a line containing consecutive hyphens will render the text on said line as heading text. This behaviour is prevented by adding a blank newline between the line of text and the hyphens.

I don't know whether or not this was intentional, but it causes some space issues (this is the potential bug). I looked through the FAQ and didn't immediately see anything concerning text formatting. Are there any other formatting tricks? Is it possible to add a blank newline? I've tried combinations of spaces and newlines and it always gets trimmed.

Example:
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Senators vs. Canucks @ Vancouver
Game starts Thursday, Feb 25, 10:00 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/ott-vs-van/2016/02/25/2015020914

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Ottawa Senators [29-26-6] (Atlantic Division) nhl.com/senators
Vancouver Canucks [23-24-12] (Pacific Division) nhl.com/canucks

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Bets close on puck-drop, 3 hours given for outcome
Games can be watched live online, use google to find livestream.

While this code produced this image:

Code:

Senators vs. Canucks @ Vancouver
Game starts Thursday, Feb 25, 10:00 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/ott-vs-van/2016/02/25/2015020914
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Ottawa Senators [29-26-6] (Atlantic Division) nhl.com/senators
Vancouver Canucks [23-24-12] (Pacific Division) nhl.com/canucks
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Bets close on puck-drop, 3 hours given for outcome
Games can be watched live online, use google to find livestream.

Cheers from the Maritimes!

Not a bug per se.. it's because we use markdown. You can use any 'tricks' that markdown allows for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown

For blank lines, if you don't use something from markdown, you can use shift-space + ALT+255 for a space character which would look like this:

 <-There it is!

New line.

Which on our site would create that line-break you're looking for!

[BetMoose]

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/the-45th-u_s_-president-in-2016-1400


I am really surprised that Trump doesn't have the main lead here. In most polls he comes in number 1. And Sanders seems to be doing poorly recently.

It's still relatively early, you should get in now if you are interested. There's a big discussion over at https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bernie-sanders-to-be-democratic-nominee-1193 at how arbitrage is quite possible and common with time-weighted parimutuel betting. You can actually scroll down through the placed bets to see yourself.

[-XXIII-]

Not a bug per se.. it's because we use markdown. You can use any 'tricks' that markdown allows for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown

For blank lines, if you don't use something from markdown, you can use shift-space + ALT+255 for a space character which would look like this:
  <-There it is!

New line.

Which on our site would create that line-break you're looking for!

Aahh, yes, this makes sense now, thanks for the pointer! However, the shift-space + ALT+255 doesn't work, probably a windows-only command eh? Also tried the trailing space trick; "When you do want to insert a <br /> break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.", to no avail. I'll keep looking, but to be honest it's truly not all that important, just more of a nuisance.

[BetMoose]

Not a bug per se.. it's because we use markdown. You can use any 'tricks' that markdown allows for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown

For blank lines, if you don't use something from markdown, you can use shift-space + ALT+255 for a space character which would look like this:
  <-There it is!

New line.

Which on our site would create that line-break you're looking for!

Aahh, yes, this makes sense now, thanks for the pointer! However, the shift-space + ALT+255 doesn't work, probably a windows-only command eh? Also tried the trailing space trick; "When you do want to insert a <br /> break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.", to no avail. I'll keep looking, but to be honest it's truly not all that important, just more of a nuisance.

It's not all one command. Actually you don't need to shift either. So do this:

First line [hit enter]
[Alt+255] [hit enter]
Second line.

[-XXIII-]

Not a bug per se.. it's because we use markdown. You can use any 'tricks' that markdown allows for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown

For blank lines, if you don't use something from markdown, you can use shift-space + ALT+255 for a space character which would look like this:
  <-There it is!

New line.

Which on our site would create that line-break you're looking for!

Aahh, yes, this makes sense now, thanks for the pointer! However, the shift-space + ALT+255 doesn't work, probably a windows-only command eh? Also tried the trailing space trick; "When you do want to insert a <br /> break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.", to no avail. I'll keep looking, but to be honest it's truly not all that important, just more of a nuisance.

It's not all one command. Actually you don't need to shift either. So do this:

First line [hit enter]
[Alt+255] [hit enter]
Second line.

Ok your post helped me figured out my issue;
Alt+# changes browser tabs in linux, Alt-codes are Windows-only. For Linux GTK+ apps, like FF and Chromium, Ctrl+Shift+0U00A0 works just the same.

Thanks again BetMoose!

[m4king]

About fees...

So, I had my first bets settled, they were fixed odds bets and to my surprise it seems I have been charged a 3% fee on the total returns, including my stake! 

Is that right?

Maybe it was naive but I was expecting the fee to be applied to winnings only, not the stake!

[jpcfan]

About fees...

So, I had my first bets settled, they were fixed odds bets and to my surprise it seems I have been charged a 3% fee on the total returns, including my stake! 

Is that right?

Maybe it was naive but I was expecting the fee to be applied to winnings only, not the stake!

the world runs on fees

[BetMoose]

About fees...

So, I had my first bets settled, they were fixed odds bets and to my surprise it seems I have been charged a 3% fee on the total returns, including my stake! 

Is that right?

Maybe it was naive but I was expecting the fee to be applied to winnings only, not the stake!

Fee is pretty easy to interpret - it is 3% taken from all bets. So yes, it would be deducted off the total payout (which would include your initial stake). Note however you will never get less than what you bet. So if you bet 1BTC and total payout was supposed to be 1.01 BTC, you will in fact receive exactly 1 BTC.

Not sure what the issue here is as that fee is also shared with the author of the bet, and is fairly low (compare that to 10%+ fee to some other real-events-betting sites)..

[patt0]

I like the site, it seems a good idea, I really lke exchanges, and there aren't many in the BTC world, at least that I'm aware of.
But I did not understood how it worked. I'm used to see odds etc, so I know what I can win, but I saw nothing like that there.

[BetMoose]

I like the site, it seems a good idea, I really lke exchanges, and there aren't many in the BTC world, at least that I'm aware of.
But I did not understood how it worked. I'm used to see odds etc, so I know what I can win, but I saw nothing like that there.

Glad you like it. We have 2 bet types: Parimutuel and Fixed Odds. Here's an example of a Fixed Odds bet which you should be able to understand:

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US Election winning party - Fixed oddsOptions: Democrats | Republicans | Independent

More details showing the difference here: https://www.betmoose.com/faq#betting1

[m4king]

About fees...

So, I had my first bets settled, they were fixed odds bets and to my surprise it seems I have been charged a 3% fee on the total returns, including my stake!  

Is that right?

Maybe it was naive but I was expecting the fee to be applied to winnings only, not the stake!

Fee is pretty easy to interpret - it is 3% taken from all bets. So yes, it would be deducted off the total payout (which would include your initial stake). Note however you will never get less than what you bet. So if you bet 1BTC and total payout was supposed to be 1.01 BTC, you will in fact receive exactly 1 BTC.

Not sure what the issue here is as that fee is also shared with the author of the bet, and is fairly low (compare that to 10%+ fee to some other real-events-betting sites)..

Thanks for the quick reply.

Just a suggestion, would you consider changing the fee structure on Fixed Odds bets? For example to a 5% flat fee on winnings only and the host gets nothing.

The host is offering the betting book, their cut is in the odds they offer.

I've never come across a bookie or exchange that charges fees on staked money before and this does not encourage action from backers or layers, in fact it make you uncompetitve when it comes to Fixed Odds.

A bet at odds 1.20x (-500 US Odds) has an effective fee of 18% under the current system.

Let me be clear I am not talking about Parimutuel Propositions and in fact I like the way that works on your site.

Cheers,

m4king.

[adaseb]

Well alot of people don't like Trump, especially most of the minorities but he is really strict against war on terrorism. So if there are more terroristic attacks around the world, he will most likely take the lead.

[BetMoose]

About fees...

So, I had my first bets settled, they were fixed odds bets and to my surprise it seems I have been charged a 3% fee on the total returns, including my stake!  

Is that right?

Maybe it was naive but I was expecting the fee to be applied to winnings only, not the stake!

Fee is pretty easy to interpret - it is 3% taken from all bets. So yes, it would be deducted off the total payout (which would include your initial stake). Note however you will never get less than what you bet. So if you bet 1BTC and total payout was supposed to be 1.01 BTC, you will in fact receive exactly 1 BTC.

Not sure what the issue here is as that fee is also shared with the author of the bet, and is fairly low (compare that to 10%+ fee to some other real-events-betting sites)..

Thanks for the quick reply.

Just a suggestion, would you consider changing the fee structure on Fixed Odds bets? For example to a 5% flat fee on winnings only and the host gets nothing.

The host is offering the betting book, their cut is in the odds they offer.

I've never come across a bookie or exchange that charges fees on staked money before and this does not encourage action from backers or layers, in fact it make you uncompetitve when it comes to Fixed Odds.

A bet at odds 1.20x (-500 US Odds) has an effective fee of 18% under the current system.

Let me be clear I am not talking about Parimutuel Propositions and in fact I like the way that works on your site.

Cheers,

m4king.

Anyone can offer/lay on any prop, so the host does not have any advantage there. We believe authors should get paid as it is their creativity and most importantly, marketability that drive traffic to our site.

You're right that is a relatively high fee when odds are low, however, the opposite is the case when you are betting anywhere above even money (2.00x odds or above). That said, it's valid feedback and we haven't considered it as you described. Unfortunately it's unlikely we'll make any modifications as all of our accounting is done based on bet volumes, not [payout - stake]. For example, we also pay out 0.6% of that amount to users who have arrived through referrals/affiliates links. We also can't really afford to lower as all of our fees combined right now just barely sustain our costs (all of our staff are volunteers for example).

Adam

[patt0]

I like the site, it seems a good idea, I really lke exchanges, and there aren't many in the BTC world, at least that I'm aware of.
But I did not understood how it worked. I'm used to see odds etc, so I know what I can win, but I saw nothing like that there.

Glad you like it. We have 2 bet types: Parimutuel and Fixed Odds. Here's an example of a Fixed Odds bet which you should be able to understand:

___________

US Election winning party - Fixed oddsOptions: Democrats | Republicans | Independent

More details showing the difference here: https://www.betmoose.com/faq#betting1

Thanks for the reply. I read and explored that part a bit. The fixed odds are normal as you said, but the other ones are a little tricky lol
It looks more suited to trading witch is nice, but even there it's still a little confusing. You could add a video with a tutorial or something like that I don't know.

[RussianRaibow]

I just came across your site today.  It was the moose that peaked my interest.  It looks like a nice betting platform/prediction market.  I'm particularly interested in some of the bets related to bitcoin, like the possible hard fork and when the next halving will be.  Now I know where to go when I want to bet on something random.

EDIT: I have one question.  How do you ensure that the person who created the bet resolves the bet conclusion honestly?

[BetMoose]

I just came across your site today.  It was the moose that peaked my interest.  It looks like a nice betting platform/prediction market.  I'm particularly interested in some of the bets related to bitcoin, like the possible hard fork and when the next halving will be.  Now I know where to go when I want to bet on something random.

EDIT: I have one question.  How do you ensure that the person who created the bet resolves the bet conclusion honestly?

We're glad you like the Moose

Please see https://www.betmoose.com/faq#hosting6

In short; hosts make a small commission from their bets, and we have a reputation system in place.

[etile]

incorrect payouts

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-aug-2016-1878

The bet says any bets within a week of $600 for YES will be refunded. So 600 happened 11th June, therefore all bets for YES from 5th - 11th June should be refunded if you follow the terms of this bet.

fix please

[BetMoose]

incorrect payouts

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-aug-2016-1878

The bet says any bets within a week of $600 for YES will be refunded. So 600 happened 11th June, therefore all bets for YES from 5th - 11th June should be refunded if you follow the terms of this bet.

fix please

Hi etile - we fixed this earlier. You can feel free to email us to get in touch with support - that is the fastest way.

Thanks

[Beefheart]

thinking about checking this place out... thoughts? how are the payouts?

[regexlove]

"8/15/2016 - Please note deposits and withdrawals may be temporarily delayed while our primary node resyncs with the blockchain."
Why publish an excuse? Technically this is unlikely* and would have be done much sooner.  (*If your primary node is any more than a virtual server hosting for $1/month.)
Thanks

[BetMoose]

Actually technically this is exactly what is going on. We self-host our node locally through the help of some of our partners on a quad core RAID10 machine on a 100Mbps connection and the BC is at about 400K/450 blocks right now indexed. We blame a lack of proper alternatives in the bitcoin ecosystem that allow for use cases like ours.

Sorry for the wait.

Adam

[regexlove]

thanks!  responsiveness appreciated

[regexlove]

withdrawals/deposits are still waiting.
What about manually processing/returning them?

[BetMoose]

Withdrawals/Deposits were fixed on the 18th. Please let us know via email if you're still having any issues!

[JasonXG]

Your site looks great in that green color. Most of what you need can be seen on the landing page. As far as I understand I may bet on anything so long as I have someone to bet against ? So I could bet I win a game of cod ? Or counter strike or league of legends ?
I could eben bet what time I wake up in the morning lol. Ok that would be hard to prove but I have the right idea right ?

Just want to say that's awesome and I'll give you guys a few goes in the next 2 weeks or so.

[cypher21]

is the withdraw fixed?thx for answer

[BetMoose]

Your site looks great in that green color. Most of what you need can be seen on the landing page. As far as I understand I may bet on anything so long as I have someone to bet against ? So I could bet I win a game of cod ? Or counter strike or league of legends ?
I could eben bet what time I wake up in the morning lol. Ok that would be hard to prove but I have the right idea right ?

Just want to say that's awesome and I'll give you guys a few goes in the next 2 weeks or so.

You got it! And thank you, I will pass it on to the team. Actually, you can create a proposition without placing a wager if you wanted to set something up for 2 friends. Or you can place a wager just on one side and wait for someone else to take the other. You can create unlisted bets so only those with the link can see them. You always get 100% back if a proposition doesn't work out (like if no one takes the other side).

is the withdraw fixed?thx for answer

Yes it was fixed last week sorry for the delay.

[xdookiex]

I wanted to say that you run a pretty neat site at betmoose. I was researching Augur in depth (to further my understanding of how they work), and from one of their slides in a video, I was stumbled across betfair.com....when I did more snooping of betfair...i was intrigued to discover that its a betting exchange...so I was curious to see, if there were any bitcoin betting exchanges...that's when I stumbled upon a few exchanges, and then finally your site! It boggles my mind...that your UI, seems a lot more intuitive and friendly than Augurs test net. I am kind of shocked you guys don't get a lot more traffic. My speculation and reasoning is that most people aren't quite geared/wired to bet in prediction markets. Don't get me wrong, there's certainly a demand but it's certainly a niche. I think most gamblers, at least hardcore sports bettors are trained to bet binary with fixed spreads. Most trading happens at a binary level, even though a lot of your user created questions are binary...I just don't know why you guys aren't bigger.

Augur seems like a cheap clone, with its own token, and a shittier UI...but then again my understanding of Augur isn't complete either...

Would certainly like to discuss more with you in PM.

[BetMoose]

I wanted to say that you run a pretty neat site at betmoose. I was researching Augur in depth (to further my understanding of how they work), and from one of their slides in a video, I was stumbled across betfair.com....when I did more snooping of betfair...i was intrigued to discover that its a betting exchange...so I was curious to see, if there were any bitcoin betting exchanges...that's when I stumbled upon a few exchanges, and then finally your site! It boggles my mind...that your UI, seems a lot more intuitive and friendly than Augurs test net. I am kind of shocked you guys don't get a lot more traffic. My speculation and reasoning is that most people aren't quite geared/wired to bet in prediction markets. Don't get me wrong, there's certainly a demand but it's certainly a niche. I think most gamblers, at least hardcore sports bettors are trained to bet binary with fixed spreads. Most trading happens at a binary level, even though a lot of your user created questions are binary...I just don't know why you guys aren't bigger.

Augur seems like a cheap clone, with its own token, and a shittier UI...but then again my understanding of Augur isn't complete either...

Would certainly like to discuss more with you in PM.

Thank you for your comments xdookiex, much appreciated, I will pass it onto the rest of the team. If you have anything else you'd like to discuss, feel free to PM us anytime!

[BetMoose]

Just in time for the New Year and Bitcoin's new localized high of $1000 USD, we have also just accepted a wager that puts our total wagered volume on the site just past 1000 BTC since inception. Thanks to everyone for their continued interest, and we hope to make some improvements and additions to the platform this year. All the best and Happy New Year!

[etile]

Incorrect source usage, incorrect outcome, incorrect early resolution and incorrect Refunds:

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/new-bitcoin-all-time-high-before-september-2017-2113

[BetMoose]

Incorrect source usage, incorrect outcome, incorrect early resolution and incorrect Refunds:

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/new-bitcoin-all-time-high-before-september-2017-2113

Hi again etile, as we discussed with you before, this was resolved incorrectly by the host. Our fault was closing it early due to the author's confusing decision logic, though as you can see by our admin comment, we will reimburse those No bettors as good will.

We do not believe you had any wagers placed in this proposition, if you have any issues please email us!

-Adam

[etile]

Incorrect source usage, incorrect outcome, incorrect early resolution and incorrect Refunds:

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/new-bitcoin-all-time-high-before-september-2017-2113

Hi again etile, as we discussed with you before, this was resolved incorrectly by the host. Our fault was closing it early due to the author's confusing decision logic, though as you can see by our admin comment, we will reimburse those No bettors as good will.

We do not believe you had any wagers placed in this proposition, if you have any issues please email us!

-Adam

Hi BetMoose!

1. The host with nickname "sirlanka" tell that he agree with "etile". That's me.
2. So this bet was closed and resolved by mods. Not by the host.
3. I marked the bet as "incorrect outcome" before resolving. Mods ignore this.
4. If mod do not understand "decision logic" why mod do not ask the host?
5. I have some anonymous Yes bets that was refunded incorrectly.
6. Mod with nickname "Avalon" was against the host opinion.
7. So the mod has some anonymous Yes bets here and mods didnt want to share profit with late leeches. But late leeches should exists here due to decision login. Mods ignores the host opinion and make profit for mods.

Good luck! Make more anonymous profits for mods!

[kkris]

Hello BetMoose, can something be done to speed up your website? Initial connection can take 10-20 seconds, even simple page loads take several seconds, and searches are slo-o-ow.

[BetMoose]

Incorrect source usage, incorrect outcome, incorrect early resolution and incorrect Refunds:

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/new-bitcoin-all-time-high-before-september-2017-2113

Hi again etile, as we discussed with you before, this was resolved incorrectly by the host. Our fault was closing it early due to the author's confusing decision logic, though as you can see by our admin comment, we will reimburse those No bettors as good will.

We do not believe you had any wagers placed in this proposition, if you have any issues please email us!

-Adam

Hi BetMoose!

1. The host with nickname "sirlanka" tell that he agree with "etile". That's me.
2. So this bet was closed and resolved by mods. Not by the host.
3. I marked the bet as "incorrect outcome" before resolving. Mods ignore this.
4. If mod do not understand "decision logic" why mod do not ask the host?
5. I have some anonymous Yes bets that was refunded incorrectly.
6. Mod with nickname "Avalon" was against the host opinion.
7. So the mod has some anonymous Yes bets here and mods didnt want to share profit with late leeches. But late leeches should exists here due to decision login. Mods ignores the host opinion and make profit for mods.

Good luck! Make more anonymous profits for mods!

Hi again etile;

What happened was the mods set the proposition to close/resolve early (incorrectly), sirlanka (the bet author) resolved as 'Yes' (also incorrect), and when it was reported and payout paused, our mods who looked into it also resolved it as 'yes' (again, incorrectly). To be fair, the decision logic was confusing and it looks like multiple parties made the same mistake. That said, as indicated, BetMoose in good will, will return funds of those "No" bettors who were not technically wrong.

Regarding refunding your late/leech Yes bet: you bet on the outcome after it was known (exchanges around the world broke ATH), plus, in general, we do not favour to leech wagers and we do tend to kick out as many late leeches as possible if there is a borderline scenario. We want to foster a predictions community, who bet ahead of time with a moderate-to-high degree of uncertainty, not last minute bettors who wager on debatable known outcomes.

Finally, please note BetMoose only takes a commission from *settled* wagers; ie; it actually costs us money in miner fees to refund your anonymous wagers, so rest assured we are not kicking out last minute wagers as a profit move.

Hope to see you around the rest of the props on BetMoose!

Adam

[BetMoose]

Hello BetMoose, can something be done to speed up your website? Initial connection can take 10-20 seconds, even simple page loads take several seconds, and searches are slo-o-ow.

We're always working to make BetMoose as speedy as possible. Can you please try it on a different computer/mobile device, or different connection to first isolate the problem? If you still have issues, please email us!

[kkris]

Hello BetMoose, can something be done to speed up your website? Initial connection can take 10-20 seconds, even simple page loads take several seconds, and searches are slo-o-ow.

We're always working to make BetMoose as speedy as possible. Can you please try it on a different computer/mobile device, or different connection to first isolate the problem? If you still have issues, please email us!

I think your reply is a cop-out, and I'll explain why.

Your website has been around for a while, and I'm sure you know by now how speedy it is.

If you have designed it to be fast, and if it is fast, then I would have expected you to clearly say so, and tell me in no uncertain that the problem must be at my end.

If you know that the website is slow, then I would have expected you to acknowledge that, and say something about what you expect to do to speed it up.

You did neither.

So you essentially evaded the question.

In the meantime your speedy competitor (loads quickly, searches quickly) bitbet.us is getting all the volume.

[j753k]

What country is your company licensed in so it can operate as a legal business? And which gambling license do you have?

[Larsthechamp]

 >:(

i know betmoose takes a 3% fee but its been 2 days & they have not paid. i sent numerous emails (email attached to this platform) & direct messages (logged into this site) to them with NO response. At this point im now posting on here. please help. i have sent NUMEROUS emails to betmoose support thru there email server as well as the host (garagedoorbaby) of the bet i won with no responses from either. (POTUS tweets from jan 24th-jan 31st) i am now stressed out because it has been over 2 DAYS and still 0% response from betmoose or the wager host. i do not have a good opinion of betmoose at this point and i will continue to write in this forum as well as others until i get a complete answer. i made a 1.7btc (estimate) (spread across 2 seperate wagers) bet on the amount of tweets donald trump would make (35 or more) between jan 24-31st. he ended up making 54 tweets shattering the over 35 mark i placed my bitcoin wager on. my orginial wager (1.7btc) was sent back to my betmoose account after the bet had resolved itself and now betmoose has NOT sent me my winnings from said bet. i want a response. respond betmoose. quit holding my bitcoin hostage

[BetMoose]

Hello BetMoose, can something be done to speed up your website? Initial connection can take 10-20 seconds, even simple page loads take several seconds, and searches are slo-o-ow.

We're always working to make BetMoose as speedy as possible. Can you please try it on a different computer/mobile device, or different connection to first isolate the problem? If you still have issues, please email us!

I think your reply is a cop-out, and I'll explain why.

Your website has been around for a while, and I'm sure you know by now how speedy it is.

If you have designed it to be fast, and if it is fast, then I would have expected you to clearly say so, and tell me in no uncertain that the problem must be at my end.

If you know that the website is slow, then I would have expected you to acknowledge that, and say something about what you expect to do to speed it up.

You did neither.

So you essentially evaded the question.

In the meantime your speedy competitor (loads quickly, searches quickly) bitbet.us is getting all the volume.

BetMoose has significantly more features and visual bulk than a stripped down basic site like bitbet. So yes, it will be more intensive on your CPU and require more bandwidth (and time) to load. The 2 websites are not comparable in terms of page-load response based on their design.

We are not aware of any big/fundamental changes that can be made to improve the performance of the site, outside of getting faster servers. As BetMoose is run by volunteers, 100% of our fees already go toward hosting and operational costs. If you'd like to make a donation, we will get faster servers just for you.

Adam

[BetMoose]

What country is your company licensed in so it can operate as a legal business? And which gambling license do you have?

We do not publish this type of information publicly sorry.

[BetMoose]

i know betmoose takes a 3% fee but its been 2 days & they have not paid. i sent numerous emails (email attached to this platform) & direct messages (logged into this site) to them with NO response. At this point im now posting on here. please help. i have sent NUMEROUS emails to betmoose support thru there email server as well as the host (garagedoorbaby) of the bet i won with no responses from either. (POTUS tweets from jan 24th-jan 31st) i am now stressed out because it has been over 2 DAYS and still 0% response from betmoose or the wager host. i do not have a good opinion of betmoose at this point and i will continue to write in this forum as well as others until i get a complete answer. i made a 1.7btc (estimate) (spread across 2 seperate wagers) bet on the amount of tweets donald trump would make (35 or more) between jan 24-31st. he ended up making 54 tweets shattering the over 35 mark i placed my bitcoin wager on. my orginial wager (1.7btc) was sent back to my betmoose account after the bet had resolved itself and now betmoose has NOT sent me my winnings from said bet. i want a response. respond betmoose. quit holding my bitcoin hostage

Hi Lars,

Sorry you're having such a hard time with this.

I have checked and all of your emails to us went answers within a few hours. Please check your junk mail or send us a PM on here. Furthermore, I checked your user account and all payouts have also been processsed for the propositions you bet on. In terms of withdrawal, you can see right at the top of your balance page this message:

"Some of your withdrawal address changes are less than 24 hours old, and you will not be able to withdraw to those addresses."

In other words, you must have just recently added a withdrawal address. We do this for your own security so that if your account was ever compromised, no one could withdraw funds to a random address.

BetMoose has processed over 1000 BTC in wagers; so it wouldn't really benefit for us to steal your 1.85BTC.

[Larsthechamp]

sir;


i deposited a fixed amount on your site....i placed a bet.....i won said bet.......your site betmoose then paid me back the EXACT amount that i had placed down to wager. WITHOUT paying me my PROFITS from said wager. adding in the times multipler (1.46 , 1,47 respectively)(i have photos) would equal out to well over the total balance which is currently in my account right now. i am at my orginial balance when i orginally deposited onto your website, but before i placed a wager.

[Larsthechamp]

can i get a response please betmoose,,,,i wrote the previous message over 15 hours ago in response to betmoose's orginial response to me and have yet to get a response or my bitcoin back from betmoose. very bad customer service

[kkris]

BetMoose has significantly more features and visual bulk than a stripped down basic site like bitbet. So yes, it will be more intensive on your CPU and require more bandwidth (and time) to load. The 2 websites are not comparable in terms of page-load response based on their design.

We are not aware of any big/fundamental changes that can be made to improve the performance of the site, outside of getting faster servers. As BetMoose is run by volunteers, 100% of our fees already go toward hosting and operational costs. If you'd like to make a donation, we will get faster servers just for you.

So I think you're caught in a vicious circle here. Without more volume, you won't have enough income to pay for faster servers. Without faster servers, you won't have a speedy website. Without a speedy website you won't have enough volume.

[BetMoose]

can i get a response please betmoose,,,,i wrote the previous message over 15 hours ago in response to betmoose's orginial response to me and have yet to get a response or my bitcoin back from betmoose. very bad customer service

We replied - the amount you bet on one side had very few bets on the other side. Your payout depends on how much volume is on the OPPOSITE side(s) of the proposition.

Please see https://www.betmoose.com/faq#resolution2

[BetMoose]

BetMoose has significantly more features and visual bulk than a stripped down basic site like bitbet. So yes, it will be more intensive on your CPU and require more bandwidth (and time) to load. The 2 websites are not comparable in terms of page-load response based on their design.

We are not aware of any big/fundamental changes that can be made to improve the performance of the site, outside of getting faster servers. As BetMoose is run by volunteers, 100% of our fees already go toward hosting and operational costs. If you'd like to make a donation, we will get faster servers just for you.

So I think you're caught in a vicious circle here. Without more volume, you won't have enough income to pay for faster servers. Without faster servers, you won't have a speedy website. Without a speedy website you won't have enough volume.

That definitely has some truth to it. However, we don't anticipate much more volume from a speedier site. The next thing on our dev agenda is to make BetMoose mobile-friendly. That will happen when we see the incentives to do so. The bitcoin ecosystem is still very tiny. We've been around for almost 3 years now and have been slowly building our reputation and trust with our thousands of users on the site. We do plan on adding new features and improving the platform with due time; we are just not in a rush to do so.

[Hatcher]

sir;


i deposited a fixed amount on your site....i placed a bet.....i won said bet.......your site betmoose then paid me back the EXACT amount that i had placed down to wager. WITHOUT paying me my PROFITS from said wager. adding in the times multipler (1.46 , 1,47 respectively)(i have photos) would equal out to well over the total balance which is currently in my account right now. i am at my orginial balance when i orginally deposited onto your website, but before i placed a wager.

You were only due the EXACT amount that you placed to wager because Betmoose takes a 3% fee from the entire pool, so this would actually result in you LOSING money if you did it on BitBet.us, but Betmoose will give you your original wager back if the fees put the winning party's ROI in the negative. 4.88128646 was wagered in total which would normally result in a fee of 0.1464385938 paid to Betmoose and the host, but since only .026 was placed on the losing sides, that's all Betmoose took in this instance and gave the winning parties their wager back. When you placed the bet you would've seen that you got a 0% ROI yet you made your bets anyways. The only reason for you to do this is to take the gamble that other people will give you action to propel you into ROI territory, otherwise it doesn't make any sense to bet like you did. You should read the rules. There is nothing incorrect here except your understanding of the way it works.

[Larsthechamp]

The other players on tbe wager lost their initial bet, how is it they lose and we get our exact wager back with nothing extra?

[Hatcher]

The other players on tbe wager lost their initial bet, how is it they lose and we get our exact wager back with nothing extra?

The winning side has Betmoose's fee deducted from it (which is 3% of the entire pool as explained above). Since the fee actually exceeded your profits, you only got your initial bet back, which is actually nice that they do that since the other main bitcoin parimutuel betting site does not (they would take the fee anyways causing you to lose money). You bet not knowing what you were doing, and without paying attention to the simple fact that it says 0% ROI in plain daylight when you are about to make such a big bet without any oppositional volume. As I said, unless you were hoping your bet was going to trigger some oppositional volume it makes absolutely no sense betting the way you did.

[BetMoose]

Thanks for helping explain it Hatcher.

This is also explained in our FAQ:

https://www.betmoose.com/faq#resolution2

~BM

[freedomno1]

Hey Moose it's not too big an issue yet but I noticed that two of my withdrawals are stuck in the mempool using the standard fee. (0.0001)
It might also end up being an issue for others if they want to withdraw so I was wondering if you could implement an increased fee option for speedy transactions in the future as it doesn't allow me to set it.

Just to illustrate unconfirmed at time of posting.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PKG3V2aq7ppdFc8UHa5gekmjrJU4NjXQx

http://www.nigeriatoday.ng/2017/02/bitcoin-transaction-fees-are-up-more-than-1200-in-past-two-years/

[BetMoose]

Hey Moose it's not too big an issue yet but I noticed that two of my withdrawals are stuck in the mempool using the standard fee. (0.0001)
It might also end up being an issue for others if they want to withdraw so I was wondering if you could implement an increased fee option for speedy transactions in the future as it doesn't allow me to set it.

Just to illustrate unconfirmed at time of posting.
https://blockchain.info/address/1PKG3V2aq7ppdFc8UHa5gekmjrJU4NjXQx

http://www.nigeriatoday.ng/2017/02/bitcoin-transaction-fees-are-up-more-than-1200-in-past-two-years/

Yes we're aware of this issue and have a fix in the pipeline. Sorry for the wait!

[iluvbitcoins]

So, if I grasped it right, there's a 3% fee which makes any bet with a ROI with less than 3% basically pointless?

[BetMoose]

So, if I grasped it right, there's a 3% fee which makes any bet with a ROI with less than 3% basically pointless?

For Parimutuel bets, the betting calculator when betting takes into account the fee, so if it says you'll win something, you will.

[iluvbitcoins]

So, if I grasped it right, there's a 3% fee which makes any bet with a ROI with less than 3% basically pointless?

For Parimutuel bets, the betting calculator when betting takes into account the fee, so if it says you'll win something, you will.

Ahh, makes sense, nice, thanks

http://prntscr.com/hr3ns5

No faith in BTC   

Also, very good webiste, I like it

[Lionidas]

So, if I grasped it right, there's a 3% fee which makes any bet with a ROI with less than 3% basically pointless?

For Parimutuel bets, the betting calculator when betting takes into account the fee, so if it says you'll win something, you will.

Ahh, makes sense, nice, thanks

http://prntscr.com/hr3ns5

No faith in BTC    

Also, very good webiste, I like it

Did not know what this site was about. Have always thought it was a betting site but about sports or something else not on the price.
But your pic made me think about starting to be on the price.
That does make it look like fun.
Thanks alot for the meme type photo about what the site is really about.

[CaptainLorca]

Became really silent here... are there any news?

[BetMoose]

Hey CaptainLorca,

Our team is still around! The site is fully operational and you are welcome to post propositions and wager as you'd like.

We've made minor tweaks and improvements over the past year or so, including having a mobile friendly interface, reducing the bet minimums, and processing withdrawals faster.

Let us know if you have any questions!

BetMoose

[MICRO]

I rly rly rly love the idea behind this site. Its soo cool concept of betting on anything.

But design and layout is pretty bad doesn't look very profesionall and i think that is keeping lots of potential players away.

U guys should work on that.

Marketing is also important bigger volume more players will bring exponetionaly more volume and more players.

Anyways good luck hope you will be around.

Btw i secretly placed some bets

[CryptoGamblingSites]

The concept and layout are so good, shame there is little action at the moment.

Especially with this market https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-bitcoin-hit-20-000-by-nov-2018-3665#bets-1

Of course it's not hitting $20k in 40 days

[Taras]

Has anyone else been getting a 500 error for the past few days? I'm not able to view any part of the website.

[kurian]

Has anyone else been getting a 500 error for the past few days? I'm not able to view any part of the website.

Yes I am getting the same error. It shows this message, "Something broke on our end and we're probably working to fix it." This is the first time I am seeing this thread and I really want to try it as others say it is good.

[praine]

I have also been receiving that error for a few days now. I have emailed support, hopefully they will fix it soon.

[sir_lanka]

Site has been down for a couple of days. Will it be down forever? Are player funds lost?

[veleten]

Site has been down for a couple of days. Will it be down forever? Are player funds lost?

there are several  topics popping up discussing whever its an exit scam
or just poor and unprofessional handling of a force majuere situation like DDOS or anything else
admins or support stuff should have announced in this topic what was the reason behind the site being down
in any case, I hope they resolve their issues and come back , but personally, I would never bet there even if they do

[jigglypoof]

I have a really really bad feeling about this. If the moderator Avalon had any sense at all he would catch us up to speed here on the forum or on twitter or on reddit. The fact he has said nothing is beginning to confirm my worst fears. His silence is deafening. If the site was hacked and the funds cleaned out at least fucking tell us.

[BetMoose]

Hey everyone,

Sorry about the downtime, it's a technical issue we are investigating. We actually had a bug with our emails hence why we didn't react to this in a timely manner.

We're not going anywhere, don't worry. Give us another day or so.

Avalon

[BetMoose]

Service has been restored.

Thank you all for your patience.

Team BetMoose

[kurian]

Hey everyone,

Sorry about the downtime, it's a technical issue we are investigating. We actually had a bug with our emails hence why we didn't react to this in a timely manner.

We're not going anywhere, don't worry. Give us another day or so.

Avalon

Thank you. I see services are restored now. I have never been on a website like this. I really like the idea. Good work.

[jeremypwr]

Some interesting wagers that can be made on this site:
Italy's credit rating, Amazon stock price, and the Elon Musk bet 

My question is how much of an advantage (odds wise) is it to bet on a sports match at this site rather than @ another sportsbook?

Seems like you're getting worse odds here.

[DarkDays]

Great concept, however I think there's a bug in the site.

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-btc-hit-100-000-before-dec-2018-leech-protected-3742#bets-1

When I go to place a 0.1 BTC bet on NO here, it says the ROI is 0%, but technically it should be about 10% since I would be contributing 10% of the new total pot?

Can somebody explain how this is wrong?

[BetMoose]

Some interesting wagers that can be made on this site:
Italy's credit rating, Amazon stock price, and the Elon Musk bet 

My question is how much of an advantage (odds wise) is it to bet on a sports match at this site rather than @ another sportsbook?

Seems like you're getting worse odds here.

That is because you are not getting "odds" with us on the parimutuel bets (the ones that have horizontal coloured lines for the options). For these bets, you win depending on how many wagers on on the opposite side, calculated based on your wager weight. We DO have fixed odds betting, but it seems our community does not use them often. See the FAQ.

Great concept, however I think there's a bug in the site.

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-btc-hit-100-000-before-dec-2018-leech-protected-3742#bets-1

When I go to place a 0.1 BTC bet on NO here, it says the ROI is 0%, but technically it should be about 10% since I would be contributing 10% of the new total pot?

Can somebody explain how this is wrong?

That is because the "No" side is already heavily favoured, and so your wager would get diluted by everyone else's. See https://www.betmoose.com/faq#resolution2

[Kevin stone]

I really like this site.

What are the plans for moving forward? What plans are in place to help it grow etc?

[FUTUR3]

There arent any

I really like this site.

What are the plans for moving forward? What plans are in place to help it grow etc?

[Kevin stone]

There arent any

I really like this site.

What are the plans for moving forward? What plans are in place to help it grow etc?

Is the site going to be sold then? I mean this is a pretty good idea but if it isn't going to be improved further than whats the point of keeping the project?

Thanks

[BetMoose]

There arent any

I really like this site.

What are the plans for moving forward? What plans are in place to help it grow etc?

Is the site going to be sold then? I mean this is a pretty good idea but if it isn't going to be improved further than whats the point of keeping the project?

Thanks

First of all, do not take a throw-away account's word for anything.

Secondly, we have a number of improvements and additions in the pipeline. At this time, as the site is mostly autonomous, our team is spread out and working on other projects in the crypto space. You're welcome to post ideas here and we can see if we can fast-track any of them.

In addition, we are always open to any serious buyer requests, however, the site is not formally for sale.

[RomeoDelta]

Hi, Betmoose team.
I just registered on the site(2 weeks) and have some questions and proposals.
1. Why Betmoose is still in beta? What criteria should be met to issue full version?
2. Why no social activities? Last Twitter post was in 2017, FB is also not so active.
3. Incoming traffic is scanty. What is the point to host a bet when nobody even come to see it?
4. When other cryptos will be accepted? At least ETH, LTC, DASH.
Team and founders are in shadow. There is a lot of information about Augur or Gnosis team and founders. Last interview with Adam dated back to 2014. Come on guys, we need to hear your voices.
One important referral proposal. Is it possible to link hosted bet with profile? For example: I want to share my hosted bet with my friends. At the same time I want they register by my referral link. How to merge these two links?

[teraf]

Hi, RomeoDelta.
 To refer someone, simply add ?ref=RomeoDelta to the end of any betmoose.com link

  I've been a user of this site for 1,5 years and from my average gambler's viewpoint the great advantage of Betmoose is that it is an actually working platform with intuitive interface. The key to attract bettors to your propositions is to place early bets. Some things besides liquidity might be slightly improved, indeed, but that's just a matter of taste. The maximum number of outcomes can be increased to 6. The list of the featured bets probably should be a bit longer. A separate ranking page showing total commission earned by 50 most active bet creators could be possibly added as well.


   As concerns Ethereum, I personally couldn't wrap my head around how its wallet (or network) works - compared to Bitcoin it looks like a total nightmare.
 It seems that some people are attached to Ethereum (and copycat ERC20 tokens built on top of it)   for no good reason.
 

   Augur is heavily promoted by Forbes and in my opinion it is hardly a good sign. The whole project looks like a deliberate parody on a smoothly working prediction market. Not sure who is actually betting there besides the devs themselves. The timing of their launch and the choice of a betting currency couldn't have been any worse!
I also wonder why Gnosis still hasn't launched and has no clear ETA with all the funding they have... Perhaps it is for the reason outlined above?

[RomeoDelta]

 
Life is good when you have so much money in your pockets). You can buy Forbes promotion and you can attend a lot of events, exhibitions and so on. Betmoose is absolutely different, I agree.

[BetMoose]

Hi, Betmoose team.
I just registered on the site(2 weeks) and have some questions and proposals.
1. Why Betmoose is still in beta? What criteria should be met to issue full version?
2. Why no social activities? Last Twitter post was in 2017, FB is also not so active.
3. Incoming traffic is scanty. What is the point to host a bet when nobody even come to see it?
4. When other cryptos will be accepted? At least ETH, LTC, DASH.
Team and founders are in shadow. There is a lot of information about Augur or Gnosis team and founders. Last interview with Adam dated back to 2014. Come on guys, we need to hear your voices.
One important referral proposal. Is it possible to link hosted bet with profile? For example: I want to share my hosted bet with my friends. At the same time I want they register by my referral link. How to merge these two links?

Hi Romeo,

Thank you for your questions;
1. There are still some minor known bugs/features that are in our pipeline but our team went ad-hoc some time ago and have only been doing maintenance on the site. No further plans to expand are on the radar yet. The biggest reason for this is that the site does not make enough per user (~2%) to justify paying for more development work so we have moved on to other projects. Our core team is still around and checks up on the site routinely, we're not going anywhere, and we keep up to date with the latest security patches and changes to adapt to Bitcoin's evolution.

2. Same rationale as #1; BetMoose is more of a community site at this point and we cannot afford a social marketing manager.

3. You're welcome to share the prop wherever/with whoever you would like.

4. We do have plans and even UI design to support other cryptos, but have not settled on a good way to integrate them. For example, what happens if some people bet in Bitcoin and some in Ethereum? We would have to peg both currencies to something, otherwise, the value and weight changes as the cryptos fluctuate in value.

Yes it is possible for you to link directly to your profile and hosted bets. Simply go to your Hosted Bets page, and there's a share button at the top right! You can add the ?ref=RomeoDelta behind any BetMoose link to get the referral benefit.

Our team does not hide and is not in shadows by any means, we're not in this for fame or fortune; we saw a space in 2013 in the Bitcoin space and created BetMoose to fill that up. By being loud and public, it simply wastes our time having to field questions which do not lead anywhere + the constant influx of spammers and scammers. Our relative anonymity is for our, and our users' security. We've processed over 1500 BTC in total volume, including single props worth over 300 BTC, so if we wanted to run, we would have already. Hopefully you can understand our stance on this as well.

Happy betting!

BetMoose

[RomeoDelta]

Good answer!)
Multicurrency is a tricky question. Maybe solution is to follow initial hosted currency, e.g. if the bet started by BTC, all the next bets should be in BTC, and so on.
I understand that you have lack of financing. But what about some external sources? There are many ways to get money for development. For example, Augur gained 90 millions USD during ICO.
Any ICO plans for Betmoose? This way is much better then just donation button hidden somewhere on the site.

[BetMoose]

Good answer!)
Multicurrency is a tricky question. Maybe solution is to follow initial hosted currency, e.g. if the bet started by BTC, all the next bets should be in BTC, and so on.
I understand that you have lack of financing. But what about some external sources? There are many ways to get money for development. For example, Augur gained 90 millions USD during ICO.
Any ICO plans for Betmoose? This way is much better then just donation button hidden somewhere on the site.

Pegging or locking to any particular crypto defeats the purpose of multi-currency; most users will likely place in BTC anyway, so the situation will not change - people with ETH or otherwise will be forced to convert to BTC via us (and we would have to charge a small % to do that for them), and they would get back BTC as a result.

Regarding ICO, we have not looked into that at this time; maybe in the future!

[RomeoDelta]

Hi, RomeoDelta.
 To refer someone, simply add ?ref=RomeoDelta to the end of any betmoose.com link

  I've been a user of this site for 1,5 years and from my average gambler's viewpoint the biggest advantage of Betmoose is that it is an actually working platform with intuitive interface. The key to attract bettors to your propositions is to place early bets. Some things besides liquidity might be slightly improved, indeed.
The maximum number of outcomes can be increased to 6. The list of the featured bets probably should be a bit longer. A separate ranking page showing total commission earned by 50 most active bet creators could be possibly added as well.


   As concerns Ethereum, I personally couldn't wrap my head around how its wallet (or network) works - compared to Bitcoin it looks like a total nightmare.
 It seems that some people are attached to Ethereum (and copycat ERC20 tokens built on top of it)   for no good reason.
 

   Augur is heavily promoted by Forbes and in my opinion it is hardly a good sign. The whole project looks like a deliberate parody on a smoothly working prediction market. Not sure who is actually betting there besides the devs themselves. The timing of their launch and the choice of a betting currency couldn't have been any worse!
I also wonder why Gnosis still hasn't launched and has no clear ETA with all the funding they have... Perhaps it is for the reason outlined above?

You are too sceptic about ETH and ERC-20 family. It is perfect tool for building prediction markets based on smart contracts; I don't know what technology is used behind Betmoose, maybe it is also some kind of smart contracts based on BTC?
I have to say, Betmoose is still one step ahead of competitors, but it is a ruthless race, more money=more traffic=more profit.

[teraf]

in theory, yes, it is a perfect tool. In practice the following solution is being proposed:

https://assets.circle.com/marketing/images/research/primers/markets/image9-8890055ad2a87a75e226543cb2fc7540.png

This 'ultimate oracle' has nothing to do with deciding the correct outcome and may eventually facilitate an Ethereum hard fork.
 My impression is that this clumsy procedure is the exact type of thing one may want to come up with if his actual purpose is to ridicule the idea of decentralisation or to suppress/subvert the development of prediction markets. I am not tech savvy though, may be the overcomplexity is the new fashion.

[Flagship11]

I want to like this site, I really really do.
But I made a wager not too long ago, and am not sure why the odds are as is:



.0001 x 2.905x = .0001 ?
Wouldnt .0001 x 2.905 = .0002905 ?

[BetMoose]

I want to like this site, I really really do.
But I made a wager not too long ago, and am not sure why the odds are as is:



.0001 x 2.905x = .0001 ?
Wouldnt .0001 x 2.905 = .0002905 ?

Those are not odds, you are quoting the weight. Please see our FAQ to how parimutuel bets are paid out. The reason you are getting the same amount back is because the winning pool of bets get paid out from the losing pool, in accordance to your weight. You have a small bet at a low weight, hence, does not claim much from the opposite side.

[Flagship11]

Well you may want to reword it then so it doesnt say "odds"
Also, it look like I placed a wager but cant win anything
This site will never be a major player

[BetMoose]

Well you may want to reword it then so it doesnt say "odds"
Also, it look like I placed a wager but cant win anything
This site will never be a major player

That column does mean Odds if the proposition is a 'fixed odds' proposition-type (see FAQ). Not many users prefer hosting those, but they do exist and are available on our site, if you wagered on one of those, you would get back exactly what you'd expect.

[parisblue]

I must say that I am quite surprised BetMoose isn't more popular after all this time.
Do the masses actually know the site it exists?  Are people just uninterested or just unaware?

Given the amount of people that still give their money to unfair BinaryBetting outfits—with manipulated systems designed to make you lose!—you'd think BetMoose would have a constant influx of new enlightened members.

Unfortunately, the liquidity is still quite sparse, even after four years.
I really hope that will change if more people realise there are other alternatives to traditional betting sites or exchanges like Betfair, BetDaq, SMarkets, etc.

I had my eye on FlexiHedge for a long time but it appears they couldn't make it work, which is surprising considering they (like BetMoose) were quite unique.

( Why is it so hard to get people to bet against each other instead of doing it via some corporate machine that doesn't have your best interest at heart??   )


The biggest attraction for me is the fact that your chances of winning are now 'on a level playing field' without someone trying to handicap your success or penalise you for making a regular profit.
At least now, if you lose then you lose fair and square.

I'm planning to post regular Bitcoin-themed 'HighLow' styled bets (because that's my main area of interest) but will include some index/commodity/miscellaneous themes later.

In case anyone fancies a punt, I posted my first proposition here:
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/will-the-price-of-bitcoin-reach-4500-or-3500-first-4368#bets-1

[parisblue]

Hey everyone,

Sorry about the downtime, it's a technical issue we are investigating. We actually had a bug with our emails hence why we didn't react to this in a timely manner.

We're not going anywhere, don't worry. Give us another day or so.

Avalon

Hi Avalon,

I'm not sure if your email service is down again, but I just received an email back as 'undelivered'.
My hosted bet has been resolved and I sent you the outcome info as instructed.

Let me know if you are aware of the issue.
Cheers.

[BetMoose]

There is no issue with our emails - we receive and process all request in due time.

We have deleted the proposition you have requested.

[parisblue]

Thanks.
BetMoose support got back to me yesterday and everything has now been resolved.

[BetMoose]

Hi there,

We have replied to all outstanding emails. Some emails get bounced by our email server if they are originating from suspicious accounts or IP addresses. Please feel free to PM this account if your issue is still unresolved.

In addition, please note we are investigating some delayed deposits that are affecting some users; please check back within 24 hours to see if your deposit is showing up.

Thank you,

--
BetMoose

[BL46K 7193R]

Wow, this site was good for me. Here are some good features. There is also a need to have a site which has been confirmed here. This site was interesting to me. I've visited this site and I think its graphics design was very good.

[leea-1334]

Looks like this is one of the oldest sites around in the similar category,,, strange I only see the thread now. Does any user recently use this could you share and post some of your experiences? We need many more prediction markets sites, the existing ones either do not have enough markets or they have too small the margins to bet on.

Wow, this site was good for me. Here are some good features. There is also a need to have a site which has been confirmed here. This site was interesting to me. I've visited this site and I think its graphics design was very good.

Looks like another stake spammer?

[tmsbtc]

How do I get in contact with someone at BetMoose? I submitted a query through the support form and an email to support@betmoose.com, but I haven't received any correspondence back. Furthermore, PMs to BetMoose on here are not allowed. My email concerned an anonymous bet that I won and was supposedly settled on Oct. 2, but which has not been paid out to my depositing address.

[Kemarit]

How do I get in contact with someone at BetMoose? I submitted a query through the support form and an email to support@betmoose.com, but I haven't received any correspondence back. Furthermore, PMs to BetMoose on here are not allowed. My email concerned an anonymous bet that I won and was supposedly settled on Oct. 2, but which has not been paid out to my depositing address.

I was about to advise you to contact them in their other social media accounts, but it seems all are dead including Twitter and Facebook. And this thread is also not that active.

The last time BetMoose was online was like a week ago but haven't replied since May 29, 2019. If it is not settled on the next coming days, then probably good to open a Scam Accusations against them.

[LimLims]

How do I get in contact with someone at BetMoose? I submitted a query through the support form and an email to support@betmoose.com, but I haven't received any correspondence back. Furthermore, PMs to BetMoose on here are not allowed. My email concerned an anonymous bet that I won and was supposedly settled on Oct. 2, but which has not been paid out to my depositing address.

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

[pankowri]

How do I get in contact with someone at BetMoose? I submitted a query through the support form and an email to support@betmoose.com, but I haven't received any correspondence back. Furthermore, PMs to BetMoose on here are not allowed. My email concerned an anonymous bet that I won and was supposedly settled on Oct. 2, but which has not been paid out to my depositing address.

I was about to advise you to contact them in their other social media accounts, but it seems all are dead including Twitter and Facebook. And this thread is also not that active.

The last time BetMoose was online was like a week ago but haven't replied since May 29, 2019. If it is not settled on the next coming days, then probably good to open a Scam Accusations against them.

Agreed with @kemarit. Some people are crazy by seeing lucrative advertisement on social media or posting by shitty people and involved in any project without knowing properly. This is about to end 2020 and be smart bro. There are so many betting sites that will difficult to count and you are doing bet on inactive site.

[Salauddin1994]

I don't think there's any need to be inactive here for lack of communication support the site is good at showing there is a lot of inactivity in betting bet365 is currently one of the most popular online gambling sites in the world. As it is a very old and international quality site there is no possibility of being deceived this site usually pays on sports betting you can bet anywhere you want.

[Kupid002]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

[shoreno]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

this site isnt a new site niether.  check the first post and youl see the date created was on 2014 but your right , a new site often does all that things  .

 that is to jump start thier career but after they got some players , the site will slowly cut thier promotions and well end up same with older sites but not all , sometimes a good old sites can also offer good promotions because they can afford it . this site here is old and they wasted all the years that they spent if theyl just become inactive .

[Taskford]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

As they are trusted already they rely on the reputation they got from their users since reputation can market itself and they don't need to offer any appealing bonus to their new users since provably they are there to play with fairness and security, but for new ones they need to offer something good to get the attention of the gamblers to make their casino successful. But seems they are inactive at the moment and provably they are just waiting for players to come without doing anything.

[bonjouros]

I am a little bit surprised with your parimutuel betting strategy as you are providing the gamblers a strategy on how they can maximize their returns. May I know if what can you get in giving this kind of information?

As most of the casinos are not accepting this kind of betting like we will divide our bet though you have said that we will run our own calculations but I think this kind of strategy is very useful as I was thinking of doing it for a long time already but a single platform will not let us do it.

[Kemarit]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

this site isnt a new site niether.  check the first post and you see the date created was on 2014 but your right , a new site often does all that things  .

Yes, this isn't new site, however, it doesn't mean that they will not pull a exit scam. They are just probably trapping many noobs gamblers here. If those people will just to look first and see how that gambling website is doing, in short we also need to investigate first and not just deposits despite those freebies being offered.

that is to jump start thier career but after they got some players , the site will slowly cut thier promotions and well end up same with older sites but not all , sometimes a good old sites can also offer good promotions because they can afford it . this site here is old and they wasted all the years that they spent if theyl just become inactive .

But in this case, everything is dead, social medias, their ANN thread, so this old sites either was overwhelmed by the competition or the owner is no longer interested, just waiting for someone to deposit to their site and play and lose, or if you are going win, you can't withdraw, win win for this people. So it is still a good return of investments for them, although in a very bad way.

[Jating]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

For the record the site is not new, actually it's one of the earliest online gambling sites.

So it really hard to understand why people are falling for it, I mean all communications are not updated (facebook, twitter and the ann thread here) so how come they still find this sites? Still baffles me. There are a lot of new and exciting sites in 2020, as crypto online platform takes off because of the Covid-19 lockdown.

And for the members who lost, I'm sorry to burst the bubble, you can't get back your money from this site as they completely abandon it like last year already.

[ultrloa]

Why you guys always fall on inactive sites?
You have many opportunities to bet on various popular and trusted websites, why you gone for a new one?
I can easily conclude that, you won't get you winnings to your wallet.
The site seems to be dead.
The owner and the Management of the team isn't active at all on any of the either Social medias, nor here.
So it's better to make up your mind, and think of recovering the losses.
Hope everything will be fine for you.

They do it for simple reason newly gambling sites offer many bonuses large rewards for  contest  for thier  users and many other good things like freebies free spin etc they do this as marketing so they will get many users at thier early age . Unlike in the trusted gambling sites that only offer limited bonuses and sometimes don't have any good thing to offer even you are new users .

For the record the site is not new, actually it's one of the earliest online gambling sites.

So it really hard to understand why people are falling for it, I mean all communications are not updated (facebook, twitter and the ann thread here) so how come they still find this sites? Still baffles me. There are a lot of new and exciting sites in 2020, as crypto online platform takes off because of the Covid-19 lockdown.

And for the members who lost, I'm sorry to burst the bubble, you can't get back your money from this site as they completely abandon it like last year already.

Provably there are people still promoting it to earn a referral commission and that will be the near reason on why there are still people fall on inactive sites. And now since the issue exist maybe it's a good reminder to the other people who still want to risk that never play on the site without getting an information since those things is really important to tell if we can get our money deposited or not.

[zhucki9]

Hey! what sports are available for betting? How quickly is money withdrawn?

[BetMoose]

Hey all,

Thanks to all the supporters and shame on all you doubters and lol@the other betting site accounts trying to shamelessly plug themselves. Guys come on, this isn't what Bitcoin is about. We've been alive and well since 2013 and 2020 will be our largest/most active year to date due to this hotly contested 2020 US election.

Just FYI, we've been around since there were only a handful of prediction markets and other Bitcoin books. We were one of the first to process 1000 BTC worth of total volume as well. We do not use Facebook or Twitter anymore due to privacy reasons as we are very firm believers of the original intent of Bitcoin and its anonymity.

We replied to the email that the user sent us a week ago - sorry for the delay, the user used a strange address that didn't pass our back-end syntax on the payout side even though it passed the front end. We'll get it sorted out and fixed for future.

Our team is purely volunteer run and maintain BetMoose for the community who want more choice or options to create their own events based on real-life outcomes in either Parimutuel or Fixed-Odds styles. By being one of the older sites, you know we have been through all the up's and downs (launched BM when BTC was around ~$300) and won't vanish like a shiny new site as has too often been the case.

Email is the best way to reach us. We almost always reply within a few days, don't panic.

BetMoose

[mardaed]

With regards to your statement that if the BetMoose moderator cannot reasonably decide the outcome and you will cancel the bet then all the  bets are going to returned. Do you think it will be fair to those bettors who win the bet?

I mean, it will be good if you can prevent cheating 100% so the gamblers will fully trust your platform and they will not be worried about this kind of cancellation to happen.

[BetMoose]

Why would a moderator cancel a proposition when there is a clear outcome? Firstly, it's the host of the prop that chooses the outcome. Our site is designed with the right incentives in mind - both BetMoose and the author of the prop get commission from *correctly resolved* props. If the host resolves incorrectly, the users report an incorrect outcome and the host forgoes their commission, we step in and resolve it correctly. We have no reason to cancel a prop unless it matches a valid cancellation criteria. In this case, no one pays any fees, no one gets any commission, and everything is returned back 100%.

[tmsbtc]

Just want to give an update and confirm that they responded to my email, I provided them with a non-segwit address, and they sent the payout.

[malevolent]

Just FYI, we've been around since there were only a handful of prediction markets and other Bitcoin books. We were one of the first to process 1000 BTC worth of total volume as well. We do not use Facebook or Twitter anymore due to privacy reasons as we are very firm believers of the original intent of Bitcoin and its anonymity.

If you make one post per year and it seems like elsewhere you're also inactive, it may appear to many that the site has been abandoned. That perception could also lead to a lower bet volume. Good that you have at least updated your twitter and fb.

We replied to the email that the user sent us a week ago - sorry for the delay, the user used a strange address that didn't pass our back-end syntax on the payout side even though it passed the front end. We'll get it sorted out and fixed for future.

Any ETA on that? bech32 addresses shouldn't be considered 'strange' anymore.

[BetMoose]

Just FYI, we've been around since there were only a handful of prediction markets and other Bitcoin books. We were one of the first to process 1000 BTC worth of total volume as well. We do not use Facebook or Twitter anymore due to privacy reasons as we are very firm believers of the original intent of Bitcoin and its anonymity.

If you make one post per year and it seems like elsewhere you're also inactive, it may appear to many that the site has been abandoned. That perception could also lead to a lower bet volume. Good that you have at least updated your twitter and fb.

We replied to the email that the user sent us a week ago - sorry for the delay, the user used a strange address that didn't pass our back-end syntax on the payout side even though it passed the front end. We'll get it sorted out and fixed for future.

Any ETA on that? bech32 addresses shouldn't be considered 'strange' anymore.

Our team will be looking into bech32 after this busy election season. Currently, we have seen less than 0.1% of bech32 addresses accidentally inputted and surprisingly all of them except this one user lost their bet so we haven't been notified until now. In addition, one user tried to use it as a withdrawal address but the system correctly rejected it.

No point spending development resources on something largely unused by the community at this time.

BM

[malevolent]

Our team will be looking into bech32 after this busy election season. Currently, we have seen less than 0.1% of bech32 addresses accidentally inputted and surprisingly all of them except this one user lost their bet so we haven't been notified until now. In addition, one user tried to use it as a withdrawal address but the system correctly rejected it.

No point spending development resources on something largely unused by the community at this time.

BM

OK, you have the insight into the numbers so I'm not going to argue, although having lower transaction fees alone could be worth it.

Thanks for the reply.

[freedomno1]

Made a few bets if people feel like playing.

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Predict $GME closing price on February 5thOptions: 220-319.99 USD | 320-420.68 USD | 420.69 - 666.68 USD | Above 666.69 USD + | Below 219.99

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Will Melania leave The Donald?  Options: Yes | No

___________

Predict DOGE on Feb 5Options: Less than 0.01 | 0.01-0.02 | 0.02001-0.04 | 0.04001+

___________

BlockBuster Liquidating Stock PriceOptions: 0.01-0.03 USD | 0.04-0.06 USD | 0.07-0.09 USD | 0.10-0.15 USD | 0.16 USD +

___________

Predict $BB closing price on February 5thOptions: 7.50-12.50 USD | 12.51-17.50 USD | 17.51-22.50 USD | 22.50 USD +

___________

Predict $AMC closing price on February 5thOptions: 5.00-9.99 USD | 10-14.99 USD | 15-19.99 USD | 20+

[jpapa99]

Hi guys, I’m new to BetMoose.

Well, this thread looks like it’s been inactive for sometime. I would like to make bets actively and repeatedly on currencies, commodities and cryptocurrencies on BetMoose. I write  to gauge the interest if any on my type of bets, so as to know if it’s possible to get a counterparty on BetMoose.

An example of the exact type of bet I am looking for is described below.

Title:
Will X touch $90 first, then $110 might be touched till 31th December 2021?

Description:
X is arbitrary, so is the expiration dates and touch and no touch price targets. X could be a commodity, currency or a crypto. If I was to make this bet, I would specify what X is as well as the other terms(i.e the expiration date, price targets)but I am just giving a general example above. In the above title example X is currently trading at $100.

Decision Logic:
YES: Only if $90 is touched and $110 has not already been breached. After $90 is touched any other price including $110 may now be touched(no more restrictions). Note: $90 must be touched before the expiration date.
NO: If price touch $110 and $90 has not been touched yet. Also, if price remains between $90 and $110 and breached neither barrier before the expiration date.

Please if anyone is interested in taking the NO side(preferably) or YES side of this kind of bet, please quote and reply to this post. Preferably on the following underlings: GOLD, EURUSD, GBPUSD, OIL, BTH and ETH.

Thank you.

[BetMoose]

Hey Jpapa,

It's free and easy to create this prop on BetMoose just to see if anyone bites. That said, you may want to consider creating a Fixed Odds prop where you can match with others at specific odds rather than our variable (Parimutuel) odds-based props.

In addition, you may want to post your message in an FX forum or elsewhere where folks may actually be interested in these derivative financial pairs

Cheers,

BM

Hi guys, I’m new to BetMoose.

Well, this thread looks like it’s been inactive for sometime. I would like to make bets actively and repeatedly on currencies, commodities and cryptocurrencies on BetMoose. I write  to gauge the interest if any on my type of bets, so as to know if it’s possible to get a counterparty on BetMoose.

An example of the exact type of bet I am looking for is described below.

Title:
Will X touch $90 first, then $110 might be touched till 31th December 2021?

Description:
X is arbitrary, so is the expiration dates and touch and no touch price targets. X could be a commodity, currency or a crypto. If I was to make this bet, I would specify what X is as well as the other terms(i.e the expiration date, price targets)but I am just giving a general example above. In the above title example X is currently trading at $100.

Decision Logic:
YES: Only if $90 is touched and $110 has not already been breached. After $90 is touched any other price including $110 may now be touched(no more restrictions). Note: $90 must be touched before the expiration date.
NO: If price touch $110 and $90 has not been touched yet. Also, if price remains between $90 and $110 and breached neither barrier before the expiration date.

Please if anyone is interested in taking the NO side(preferably) or YES side of this kind of bet, please quote and reply to this post. Preferably on the following underlings: GOLD, EURUSD, GBPUSD, OIL, BTH and ETH.

Thank you.

[jpapa99]

Thank you 

Hey Jpapa,

It's free and easy to create this prop on BetMoose just to see if anyone bites. That said, you may want to consider creating a Fixed Odds prop where you can match with others at specific odds rather than our variable (Parimutuel) odds-based props.

In addition, you may want to post your message in an FX forum or elsewhere where folks may actually be interested in these derivative financial pairs

Cheers,

BM

Hi guys, I’m new to BetMoose.

Well, this thread looks like it’s been inactive for sometime. I would like to make bets actively and repeatedly on currencies, commodities and cryptocurrencies on BetMoose. I write  to gauge the interest if any on my type of bets, so as to know if it’s possible to get a counterparty on BetMoose.

An example of the exact type of bet I am looking for is described below.

Title:
Will X touch $90 first, then $110 might be touched till 31th December 2021?

Description:
X is arbitrary, so is the expiration dates and touch and no touch price targets. X could be a commodity, currency or a crypto. If I was to make this bet, I would specify what X is as well as the other terms(i.e the expiration date, price targets)but I am just giving a general example above. In the above title example X is currently trading at $100.

Decision Logic:
YES: Only if $90 is touched and $110 has not already been breached. After $90 is touched any other price including $110 may now be touched(no more restrictions). Note: $90 must be touched before the expiration date.
NO: If price touch $110 and $90 has not been touched yet. Also, if price remains between $90 and $110 and breached neither barrier before the expiration date.

Please if anyone is interested in taking the NO side(preferably) or YES side of this kind of bet, please quote and reply to this post. Preferably on the following underlings: GOLD, EURUSD, GBPUSD, OIL, BTH and ETH.

Thank you.

[24Kt]

Hey Jpapa,

It's free and easy to create this prop on BetMoose just to see if anyone bites. That said, you may want to consider creating a Fixed Odds prop where you can match with others at specific odds rather than our variable (Parimutuel) odds-based props.

In addition, you may want to post your message in an FX forum or elsewhere where folks may actually be interested in these derivative financial pairs

Cheers,

BM

Great to hear from betmoose himself. Didn't know that this betting exchange is still attracting players. Do you have any plans for the next months to attract more bettors? Because it seems your thread here is somewhat forgotten, though I don't know if you have regulars outside the forum.
And why it is showing that you are still in beta from your homepage? Are you still in beta or already out of beta?

[BetMoose]

Hey Jpapa,

It's free and easy to create this prop on BetMoose just to see if anyone bites. That said, you may want to consider creating a Fixed Odds prop where you can match with others at specific odds rather than our variable (Parimutuel) odds-based props.

In addition, you may want to post your message in an FX forum or elsewhere where folks may actually be interested in these derivative financial pairs

Cheers,

BM

Great to hear from betmoose himself. Didn't know that this betting exchange is still attracting players. Do you have any plans for the next months to attract more bettors? Because it seems your thread here is somewhat forgotten, though I don't know if you have regulars outside the forum.
And why it is showing that you are still in beta from your homepage? Are you still in beta or already out of beta?

One of the unique things about BetMoose is the authors/hosts of the propositions get a commission/cut of the amount wagered in their props - that creates the built-in attraction for those authors to spread their awesome bets with others. At this time, there are no current plans to grow BetMoose as the core team has moved on to other projects however we are still very much supporting and moderating the platform, and we've been around since 2013 so folks should feel safe to trust us as a betting escrow, in the Bitcoin space that kind of long-term rep is hard to find with any other platform or site

[MyRealName]

Hey Jpapa,

It's free and easy to create this prop on BetMoose just to see if anyone bites. That said, you may want to consider creating a Fixed Odds prop where you can match with others at specific odds rather than our variable (Parimutuel) odds-based props.

In addition, you may want to post your message in an FX forum or elsewhere where folks may actually be interested in these derivative financial pairs

Cheers,

BM

Great to hear from betmoose himself. Didn't know that this betting exchange is still attracting players. Do you have any plans for the next months to attract more bettors? Because it seems your thread here is somewhat forgotten, though I don't know if you have regulars outside the forum.
And why it is showing that you are still in beta from your homepage? Are you still in beta or already out of beta?

One of the unique things about BetMoose is the authors/hosts of the propositions get a commission/cut of the amount wagered in their props - that creates the built-in attraction for those authors to spread their awesome bets with others. At this time, there are no current plans to grow BetMoose as the core team has moved on to other projects however we are still very much supporting and moderating the platform, and we've been around since 2013 so folks should feel safe to trust us as a betting escrow, in the Bitcoin space that kind of long-term rep is hard to find with any other platform or site

Your platform has history and reputation. You need to find some pro bitcoin investors and integrate lighting payments. I would make it in retro style but integrated some new technology. I am sure it will succeed in the long run.

[freedomno1]

Throwing two bets up and a necro to good old betmoose since its world cup time

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World Cup Semi-Final Bet 1Options: Netherlands/Croatia | Netherlands/Brazil | Argentina/Croatia | Argentina/Brazil

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World Cup Semi-Final 2Options: England/Morocco | England/Portugal | France/Morocco | France/Portugal

[teamcoltraBTC]

To everyone who is new to Betmoose now is a perfect time to get in. Betmoose really starts picking up around the US presidential elections.