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November 13, 2016, 09:23:21 AM
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How to make Startcoin the real digital currency for crowdfunding :

What is StartCOIN ?     ''We aim to be the first stable digital currency created to promote and support crowdfunding''.

What strategy Mr. Max Keiser  can implement to make this coin become stable in a way that people will buy and hold ?


To have investors in startcoin the strategy is simple : Besides Fiat, the Cryptocurrency for the V2.startjoin should be only/only/only startcoin and to make V2 the best crowdfunding platform !
For the people that want to invest in projects and don't now anything about crypto, they can use Fiat.
For the people that use cryptocurrencies they can sale for Fiat or swap for startcoin,and invest/trade in startcoin and startjoin projects.

This will give credibility to the project and to the Chief Executive Officer !
This is the breeze to escalate and to become the digital currency for crowdfunding  Smiley

If Startcoin will be the only crypto accepted in V2 Startjoin investors/traders will come and there will be no stop ...

This should be the path !
If you can invest in the platform with other crypto, you don't need startcoin - If you have to buy/swap other cryptos for start to invest in the platform than you will buy/hold as an investor/not as speculator, and the price will never stop raising !

Stability and value to SC will be only achieved if they will only accept SC in the platform. This is the only reason I see an investor holding SC.
When you will have VC companies and real investors investing on the coin to invest in the projects of the platform, liquidity and volume will be the same - as a ex. shapeshift ( startjoin creation ) is a easy way to swap coins if you really want to invest in great projects.
It would be completely different even for the  projects.Is not good when you rase startcoin that today has a value of ''10'' and ''tomorrow'' is ''1''.
Would bring much more confidence if you could rase Start and keep your money in Start because the value in the future will be the same or higher. - If you rase 10.000 dol. in start and you have to cash it, will take you time and you will loose a lot of money...

When V1 was created I understand, but today I really don't understand why V2 will accept other crypyo besides SC.
SC in this platform should be what is bitcoin for the world :
When you go to Europe you pay in euros,in the US you pay in Dollars - or you can use bitcoin /// In V2 you should pay only in Startcoin and maybe one day crowdfunding will use SC.
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November 13, 2016, 09:49:13 AM
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Yes, we heard you the first time.

We've already seen StartJoin v1 accept more than StartCoin and the price was in the 6500 to 11000 range with spikes to 18768, 55000, and 80000. v2 is in a public beta and will be ramping up over the next weeks, better than v1 ever was. Accepting only SC would be nice and all, but it's not necessary as has been proven already, so don't get carried away with that line of reasoning. No one but the rage-dumper wants to sell below 2k, but people bought as high as 2300 today. That will only improve as SJ ramps up operations. I'm still trying to accumulate (unsuccessfully since people are constantly jumping in front of me with orders), so buy, sell, or whatever you want to do.
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November 13, 2016, 11:26:02 AM
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Sorry but I think I need to clear things up for people that have not been around for long. It has been stated quite clearly and without ambiguity by Karl that Startjoin V2 will accept a number of Alt Coins and this will not change. Users will be incentivised in a small way to use Startcoin, not sure of the details yet. The issue with using Startcoin alone is well documented if you have ever pledged to a project and as an example I will use Chris Ellis Full node project.

He required x amount of $ to complete his project, he raised the require amount to say build 20 nodes, quite a large sum of this was pledged in Startcoin. When he came to receive the funds and convert to BTC the price of Startcoin has declined and had he sold the coins he would have only had sufficient to build 17 nodes and there would have been a big sell on the market causing the price to fall further. Community members stepped in and brought them from him at a higher than market price so he could complete his project. 

In any event is is clear that if a project only accepts 1 coin when the owner comes to liquidate them there will be a fall in price. So it is obvious that accepting multiple coins spreads this risk and there should be less price decline once a project completes.

What has also been stated quite clearly and without ambiguity by Karl is that V2 is the priority and the price of Startcoin is not an issue that needs addressing by SCH their focus is purely Startjoin. The market will decide to price.

The release of V2 is not what people were expecting and despite Karl saying it was always a beta release he can produce no evidence of this, I certainly was not expecting a beta release, but it is what it is and we have to live with it. I believe that once V2 is fully functional there is a good chance that Startcoin will rise in value, not because of any support from SCH but by the very nature that SC is associated directly with SJ.

So in fact what has happen for those who believe that V2 is going to succeed, I have yet to be convinced, is that the poor release of a buggy platform has greatly enhanced the buying opportunity for those who believe.

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November 13, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
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accept other coins? i'm ok with that but the coin at the platform MUST be only startcoin..
being more clear, if someone sends bitcoin or other coin, it will be converted to start to be used at the platform.

right now, startcoin is useless.. that's why the price is falling. Doesnt matter if startjoin is a big success, why should someone buy startcoin??

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November 13, 2016, 03:44:01 PM
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right now, startcoin is useless.. that's why the price is falling. Doesnt matter if startjoin is a big success, why should someone buy startcoin??

It is not publicly known what level of integration SC will have in V2. So buying SC is purely speculative.
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November 13, 2016, 03:57:49 PM
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The platform was released without serious promotion to the community so the kinks could be worked out. That's what's happening right now. It's a slow release, which is wise. New sites this large and complex always have bugs at first. You have people who don't understand that crying about it, plus one guy who literally stated he wanted to tank the price to punish Karl and stopped when he succeeded in artificially getting it "under 2k".

Here's the thing: These facts are why it's so cheap right now. It's all been priced in. So implying it's "falling" is incorrect. It "has fallen".

Just like always there are extra benefits to using START on the site and they've also said they intend to develop START after StartJoin is further along, so saying they don't care about it just isn't true.

If somehow you think, after the trolling and suppression, the price is going to go lower than it did when there was no StartJoin up and running at all, by all means sell. If you think, as I do, that these things have created a temporary opportunity to get the coin at some of the lowest prices ever, by all means buy.
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November 13, 2016, 04:02:38 PM
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The platform was released without serious promotion to the community so the kinks could be worked out. It's a slow release, which is wise. That's what's happening right now. New sites this large and complex always have bugs at first. You have people who don't understand that crying about it, plus one guy who literally stated he wanted to tank the price to punish Karl and stopped when he succeeded in artificially getting it "under 2k".

Here's the thing: These facts are why it's so cheap right now. It's all been priced in. So implying it's "falling" is incorrect. It "has fallen".

Just like always there are extra benefits to using START on the site and they've also said they intend to develop START after StartJoin is further along, so saying they don't care about it just isn't true.

If somehow you think, after the trolling and suppression, the price is going to go lower than it did when there was no StartJoin up and running at all, by all means sell. If you think, as I do, that these things have created a temporary opportunity to get the coin at some of the lowest prices ever, by all means buy.
i feel the same. hope it will rise again.
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November 13, 2016, 04:07:21 PM
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Block halving is in a couple weeks, kinks are being addressed, and meanwhile I'll be proactively helping to find bugs, promote projects, provide liquidity in the market (when it isn't ridiculously low and I'm just buying), and thinking about a project or two of my own I want to list on there. Hopefully other people will be doing the same.
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November 13, 2016, 04:34:21 PM
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One project I'm thinking about is this: I have an RPG that was online until 3 years ago when I went into trading full time and also had some personal tragedies that made it too difficult for me to focus on such projects. The game world starts out as nothing but rivers, forests, monsters, & resources. Everything in the world (items, buildings, roads, politics, etc.) is created by players who pan the streams, chop down trees, build roads, hunt, gather, or adventure. People used to pay quite a bit of money per capita to play it.

https://www.facebook.com/towrpg/

Ever since getting into crypto I've thought about converting it, or at least a server of it, to a "real money" economy where you can both deposit AND withdraw money.

Before that, however, I'm thinking about some basic games like dice, cards, lotto, etc. that would not only get START off Bittrex, but also provide a sink by sending a portion of profits to a burn address. I already mostly completed a system that allows people to make wagers against each other on Twitter. I also need to complete a bot that's about 80% done which will help with some basic market making tasks. I may even allow other people to take part, which was the original purpose of the name "CrowdWhale".

On a related note, does anyone know a top notch digital artist that's willing to work on a project without being paid in advance, or who might want to get paid via a StartJoin campaign?
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November 13, 2016, 07:29:19 PM
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The platform was released without serious promotion to the community so the kinks could be worked out. That's what's happening right now. It's a slow release, which is wise. New sites this large and complex always have bugs at first. You have people who don't understand that crying about it, plus one guy who literally stated he wanted to tank the price to punish Karl and stopped when he succeeded in artificially getting it "under 2k".

Here's the thing: These facts are why it's so cheap right now. It's all been priced in. So implying it's "falling" is incorrect. It "has fallen".

Just like always there are extra benefits to using START on the site and they've also said they intend to develop START after StartJoin is further along, so saying they don't care about it just isn't true.

If somehow you think, after the trolling and suppression, the price is going to go lower than it did when there was no StartJoin up and running at all, by all means sell. If you think, as I do, that these things have created a temporary opportunity to get the coin at some of the lowest prices ever, by all means buy.


Jason. I respect you man, but you're getting possessed by market manipulation theory. I fully agree with you about price supression, but you have to be sincere here. It's not the same to supress a reliable and hard working coin, that supress a shit like Startcoin.

I think you're the only one buying man. It's obvious that this shit will pump soon or later, but face the facts and don't lie people: Most probably Start will be at 2K-3K for a long period until Karl has some shit to hype the coin. And judging his words, it seems that it will take a lot of time.  Wink
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November 13, 2016, 07:50:30 PM
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I have one order and haven't had one filled since yesterday, so your claim I'm the only one buying is complete bullshit. The rest of what you said doesn't make sense, people can judge if I'm "lying" by the logic of my own words. In fact you just agreed 2k is the bottom and even with no other "hype" it could range upward 50%. You also agreed about the suppression. So what am I lying about? You were trying to be a bigshot saying you'd dump for 19 days and destroy the market until Karl did... something or other. You failed and now you're realizing all you did was sell at the bottom that you created.

I'm getting tired of responding to trolls. Buy, sell, or get lost, but stop wasting my time with unfounded claims and shit I've already answered.
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November 13, 2016, 08:24:39 PM
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I have one order and haven't had one filled since yesterday, so your claim I'm the only one buying is complete bullshit. The rest of what you said doesn't make sense, people can judge if I'm "lying" by the logic of my own words. In fact you just agreed 2k is the bottom and even with no other "hype" it could range upward 50%. You also agreed about the suppression. So what am I lying about? You were trying to be a bigshot saying you'd dump for 19 days and destroy the market until Karl did... something or other. You failed and now you're realizing all you did was sell at the bottom that you created.

I'm getting tired of responding to trolls. Buy, sell, or get lost, but stop wasting my time with unfounded claims and shit I've already answered.


yo yo Jason, I'm still holding a bunch of Start and I reccomended some people to buy it, so I have the same interest as you for this to pump.

But reality is reality, and as an expert trader you should know that most surely Start won't have a serious grow until Karl presents something good that we can hype. Karl has been a year "working" and still doesn't have a shit, what makes you think that in 2 months everything will be ready?  Roll Eyes

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November 13, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
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Not responding to your negativity anymore. I don't see things the way you do. Make your own decisions and I'll make mine. I believe in the project and I'm building my position while it's cheap.
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November 13, 2016, 08:39:47 PM
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Guess I bruised Vulture's ego because he's in the troll chat thumping his chest bragging about dumping it below 2k again. Be ready. He'll be out of coins soon.

Now he's threatening that if Karl doesn't pay a guy StartCoin because of something unrelated to Karl he'll destroy the market. I'm genuinely starting to think this guy is mentally ill.

I'll take the cheap coins, though. This is literally the best thing that could have happened to me. I was buying at 2400 before this. The market never would have gone to this level without this guy. Gotta admit I feel a little bad for him, but nothing I can do about that.
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November 13, 2016, 09:26:40 PM
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Crowdfunding is the activity or process of raising money from a large number of people for a project or small business, and people invest money in projects that think will become successful and will bring return on the investment.
Please look to the startcoin website - you will see that startcoin aim to be the digital currency for crowdfunding, suggest you to register at startjoin to be part of this crowdfunding community and that by using this currency you are helping to make projects on StartJOIN happen. Both projects  are ''bond'' together and for this to happen SC should be the only crypto in V2.
Startcoin website do not say that startcoin aim to be a speculative currency for trade (this is what it is at the moment) and those statements should be taken seriously by SCH.
The example of Chris Ellis Full node project that raised is pledge and when he receive the funds and try to convert them and the price of Startcoin declined, is what we should avoid for the future.It is not accepting other crypto that you avoid this to happen - ''Holding'' both projects together and making startcoin the only crypto of V2 will make people hold and confidence and stability will make that cases like this will not happen besides the regular swings of any other currency where smart traders can make money.
If you have crypto and you want to invest in projects in V2 we are not in 2014 and you can exchange crypto for fiat easily.Now is the time to make the vision to become reality and bond the projects together in a way that SC and SJ become what they were created to be!
''The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham'' explain clearly why we should only put money in the best real business and this project has his last chance before somebody will make the same idea become reality.
I like to trade/speculate but this is such a great project that can really be a investment for investors that will make ideas become reality and the difference and the changes for good to happen !
Respect and be respected ...
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November 13, 2016, 09:34:40 PM
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Frank = Vulture Fund

Hopefully people can see what's happening right now and recognize the current market conditions are seriously and artificially depressed. This is an opportunity you won't see again.
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November 13, 2016, 10:09:32 PM
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 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

REMEMBER JASON, MARKETS ARE FAIR

IF STARTCOIN DUMPS IT'S BECAUSE IT DESERVES TO DUMP

ONCE STARTCOIN GIVES US SOME REASONS TO PUMP, IT WILL PUMP

UNTIL THEN, GET READY TO BAGHOLD  Wink
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November 13, 2016, 10:14:38 PM
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No problem. Aren't you dumping it to 1800? Have my bags open. Don't let me down.
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November 13, 2016, 11:52:07 PM
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Sell now, buy back cheaper later. At 1k or so. Put your buy orders at low levels. There will be a big and quick dump soon to earn from...

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November 14, 2016, 12:09:18 AM
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Jason, do you have enough BTC to absorb the yuge dump incoming?? Grin Grin

I can give you a little credit if you want, but don't get too deep in that shit man. This is like heroin, feels good at the START, but slowly kills yourself... Wink


Who said there's only 45M Start supply? Roll Eyes

This team is a total disaster, don't be surprised if you see some coins dumped outta-nowhere  Grin Grin

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