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May 10, 2017, 10:06:55 PM
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Yes this coin has been disappointing. Is it a scam? That is a tricky one, they have employed the same tactics as scammers would with all the hype and empty promises. But I think they were trying to fund the project completely through the premine (and the appreciation of the premine, hence the hype). This didn't work and it left them in a position where they had to decide whether they will break the golden rule of running start ups, and that is to use their own money. It does happen that people start with good and legitimate intentions but end up running scams because they hope to fix it all later. I don't think Strartjoin has gone down this route completely but time will tell, I think they still intend to run a legitimate platform, it is very unfortunate that they employed shilling and hype without substantial results to try and fund this project. Karl has tried to get additional funding as per last video update where he looked very uncomfortable. I can't imagine someone would want to invest in the Startjoin platform but no doubt there will be an announcement on Friday where he will reveal just that, I can't imagine he would have anything else to say, he said he was going to get investors and if he is announcing something "exciting" it could not be anything else (unless it is all lies, like before).

It boils down to this, does he want to lose face and be known as a scammer forever or does he genuinely want to have some standing in the cryptoworld. I think his ego wants the latter. I think he wants to make much more money than the £200K+ he can dump on the market, because he is a greedy arrogant arsehole. The fact that Karl bothered to do an update where he did not actually look that happy about the situation probably is a good thing, it might mean that he actually intends to do something for a change.

As for handing the coin to the community.... I think he will give it to Cris Ellis, if he wants it, they seem friendly on Twitter, Cris has a good reputation and is probably more competent on a bad day than any of the people before.

So on Friday, I think there will be an announcement of some investors in SJ, that SJ is accepting Altcurrencies pledges, that the site will be fully working (HA HA). And that the coin is being handed to someone less tainted. It will probably still disappoint people.

Ultimately this announcement, no matter how good or bad it is will not be important to me, the price might collapse, it might surge. From a technical analyses point of view it looks great long term (much more reliable than Karl). Look at the chart, ignore the hype and the FUD. Trade with stop losses! DO NOT BUY BAGS NOW WITHOUT MITIGATING RISK.
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May 10, 2017, 10:11:19 PM
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Yea, lets wait till Friday to find out Cheesy
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May 10, 2017, 10:14:55 PM
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At this point I didn't sell any single coin and watching carefully the changing situation. They have been always so many disappointments that every hopeful news if there is some seems strange. I will keep watching the recent spike or pump where takes us.


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May 11, 2017, 01:24:53 PM
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Yes this coin has been disappointing. Is it a scam? That is a tricky one, they have employed the same tactics as scammers would with all the hype and empty promises. But I think they were trying to fund the project completely through the premine (and the appreciation of the premine, hence the hype). This didn't work and it left them in a position where they had to decide whether they will break the golden rule of running start ups, and that is to use their own money. It does happen that people start with good and legitimate intentions but end up running scams because they hope to fix it all later. I don't think Strartjoin has gone down this route completely but time will tell, I think they still intend to run a legitimate platform, it is very unfortunate that they employed shilling and hype without substantial results to try and fund this project. Karl has tried to get additional funding as per last video update where he looked very uncomfortable. I can't imagine someone would want to invest in the Startjoin platform but no doubt there will be an announcement on Friday where he will reveal just that, I can't imagine he would have anything else to say, he said he was going to get investors and if he is announcing something "exciting" it could not be anything else (unless it is all lies, like before).

It boils down to this, does he want to lose face and be known as a scammer forever or does he genuinely want to have some standing in the cryptoworld. I think his ego wants the latter. I think he wants to make much more money than the £200K+ he can dump on the market, because he is a greedy arrogant arsehole. The fact that Karl bothered to do an update where he did not actually look that happy about the situation probably is a good thing, it might mean that he actually intends to do something for a change.

As for handing the coin to the community.... I think he will give it to Cris Ellis, if he wants it, they seem friendly on Twitter, Cris has a good reputation and is probably more competent on a bad day than any of the people before.

So on Friday, I think there will be an announcement of some investors in SJ, that SJ is accepting Altcurrencies pledges, that the site will be fully working (HA HA). And that the coin is being handed to someone less tainted. It will probably still disappoint people.

Ultimately this announcement, no matter how good or bad it is will not be important to me, the price might collapse, it might surge. From a technical analyses point of view it looks great long term (much more reliable than Karl). Look at the chart, ignore the hype and the FUD. Trade with stop losses! DO NOT BUY BAGS NOW WITHOUT MITIGATING RISK.

from a thoughtfulness perspective (and for how much a talk shit of this shitty run project) i have to agree with this.

mind you most ppl i'm sure have almost zero interest in this poorly run crap given the amt of bagholders and fuckery the coin price has seen. 

BUT this could also translate to the usual whale play and lonnnggg term accumulation...now with some 'news' and potential life (and btc at 1800usd!) if this pumps it could be huuuuge gains.  (but honestly it will prob just die out in price again lol).

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May 11, 2017, 01:42:09 PM
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There are no fundamental reasons for this coin to rise, except for this announcement from Karl Gray. However, just like in RISE. Someone has been buying a lot of start around 300-500 satoshis. Now the coin starts rising. The available supply is just very centralized atm. Very easy to pump for the whale that owns all the crap coins. At 10x the price he only needs to sell 11% of his stake to make a profit Wink.

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May 11, 2017, 11:26:27 PM
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someone has a bit of confidence (3 btc) at the 1350 satoshi level.....Bittrex... good luck
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May 12, 2017, 12:15:01 AM
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Looks like Karl will be announcing that Startjoin is moving out of UK due to brexit. He might also mention that the Director Grace Ma has resigned 02/05/17, which might be a good thing....

Apparently there were 2 unsuccessful hacking attempts, and he is actually trying to hand the coin over to community with some interest from some active SJ platform individuals, most of this was announced 9/10 days ago, with the announcement of "exciting" events about 3 days ago, so maybe something happened in the intervening period.... Worrying thing is that the announcement of "exciting" things is exactly following the pattern of hype and dump that was used before.... Wish the idiot would stop doing that.

This is the most activity I have seen from Karl in fucking ages, and because its less hype and more business like it actually makes me think that he could be getting serious for the long term development of Startjoin, this could be quite bad short term but no doubt there will be a rose tinted version of the future projected for us......

Wonder if Max is going to shill this now HA HA HA. Man this coin and this project has just been entertaining on epic levels, with a couple of seriously tragic cases of life savings gone down the drain. The irony is that there could still be equally miraculous stories of life changing wealth being created for others still, some lose everything in the times of optimism, other gain a new future in the times of complete despair. "Buying when they are crying"
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May 12, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
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I am sitting this one out for now, if it tanks, it will be nice and cheap, it it breaks resistance it might be a good point of entry.
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May 12, 2017, 09:25:58 AM
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There are no fundamental reasons for this coin to rise, except for this announcement from Karl Gray. However, just like in RISE. Someone has been buying a lot of start around 300-500 satoshis. Now the coin starts rising. The available supply is just very centralized atm. Very easy to pump for the whale that owns all the crap coins. At 10x the price he only needs to sell 11% of his stake to make a profit Wink.
Yes,so the price will rise more.
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May 12, 2017, 01:38:16 PM
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Notification to SCH Shareholders, this will appease many shareholders and get them off Karls' back, in terms of making progress as a company.... can't see how this helps...

"One-time dividend to shareholders
who have invested in the company via BnktotheFuture.
Today we are excited to announce that StartCOIN Holdings is issuing a one-time dividend to all our shareholders, who have invested in the company via the BnktotheFuture platform.

StartCOIN holdings will be allocating each of our shareholders a percentage of StartCOIN Holdings ownership of Bitcoin Capital commensurate to the equity position they currently hold in StartCOIN Holdings.
 
As you might be aware, through the Bitcoin Capital vehicle, StartCOIN Holdings has accumulated a position in some of the most exciting [Suspicious link removed]panies in the world. Through this dividend, each shareholder will effectively receive shares in these companies at early stage valuations.

The team at BnkToTheFuture is currently finalising their audit on the holdings within Bitcoin Capital. Once we receive the details on number of shares, valuations etc. for each company, we will contact each shareholder with a detailed report of their dividend.

We look forward to hearing feedback from the community on these steps over the coming days and as always we will be available to answer questions on Yap or feel free to contact us via hello@startjoin.com."
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May 12, 2017, 01:45:37 PM
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also you fail to mention, 2 MILLION startcoins burned from premine too. big bonus


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May 12, 2017, 01:51:14 PM
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Second part of notification. This might get some people excited. Though they don't state how much would be left after the burning..... I think there was 42 million originally premined.... so one wonders how significant burning 2 million could be.... Pathetic.

"On a Separate Note
In addition to the dividend for shareholders we have taken the decision to decrease the total possible supply of StartCoin by “burning” 2 Million StartCOIN from the pre-mine pool.
The purpose of this deflationary action is to increase the value of those coins already in circulation and held by the StartJOIN community."

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May 12, 2017, 01:54:28 PM
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also you fail to mention, 2 MILLION startcoins burned from premine too. big bonus



Yes noticed it later, but do the maths! 2/84 = 2.3% of total supply. They are still sitting on a premine that can dump you, your dog and your grandma into oblivion.
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May 12, 2017, 02:39:37 PM
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https://startcoin.org/blog/startcoin_pre_mine_wallet_addresses

Looks like 8 premine addresses still have 2000000 mil coins left, 16 mill - 2 mil burning. 14 mil premine total. And that is if the liquidation of the other 17 addresses are genuine and were ALL used for running the platform.
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May 12, 2017, 03:20:07 PM
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, from SJ platform.

"in today's newsletter you wrote
"The team at Bank To The Future is currently finalising their audit on the holdings in Bitcoin Capital."

In response on Telegram, Simon Dixon of BTTF said
"Also, please note we are not conducting any 'audit' for SCH in relation to the recent dividends announcement. "

Can you please explain to everyone why you lied ?

Here is what Simon Dixon had to say in full, regarding today's newsletter:

"IMPORTANT/URGENT Public Notice: BnkToTheFuture were not contacted by anybody at SCH about the recent announcement involving Bitcoin Capital and BnkToTheFuture. We are waiting to hear from Karl why this announcement was made publicly without informing us and without our knowledge. Also, please note we are not conducting any 'audit' for SCH in relation to the recent dividends announcement. We received this announcement as we are subscribed to their newsletter. We believe there are regulatory challenges that SCH may not have considered which is the reason why we are now waiting to hear from SCH and make a formal inquiry in regards to the recent announcement. Any movement in the price of StartCOIN as a result of this announcement should not be attributed to BnkToTheFuture in any way.""

trying to find out if this legit, or simply a smear.

Seems fake , can't find anything on internet, that's what you get for pissing people off Karl  Grin
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May 12, 2017, 03:30:45 PM
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, from SJ platform.

"in today's newsletter you wrote
"The team at Bank To The Future is currently finalising their audit on the holdings in Bitcoin Capital."

In response on Telegram, Simon Dixon of BTTF said
"Also, please note we are not conducting any 'audit' for SCH in relation to the recent dividends announcement. "

Can you please explain to everyone why you lied ?

Here is what Simon Dixon had to say in full, regarding today's newsletter:

"IMPORTANT/URGENT Public Notice: BnkToTheFuture were not contacted by anybody at SCH about the recent announcement involving Bitcoin Capital and BnkToTheFuture. We are waiting to hear from Karl why this announcement was made publicly without informing us and without our knowledge. Also, please note we are not conducting any 'audit' for SCH in relation to the recent dividends announcement. We received this announcement as we are subscribed to their newsletter. We believe there are regulatory challenges that SCH may not have considered which is the reason why we are now waiting to hear from SCH and make a formal inquiry in regards to the recent announcement. Any movement in the price of StartCOIN as a result of this announcement should not be attributed to BnkToTheFuture in any way.""

trying to find out if this legit, or simply a smear.

Seems fake , can't find anything on internet, that's what you get for pissing people off Karl  Grin


Simon posted the "Public Notice" on Telegram in @startcoinuncensored, I read it earlier today.

He has since stepped back from what he said calling it a "miscommunication" he wrote;

Simon Dixon "UPDATE. We are now in communications with Karl and trying to resolve all miscommunications." 15:44
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May 12, 2017, 03:34:27 PM
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Wow that is some miscommunication!!!! I am so glad I am not a bag holder....
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May 12, 2017, 05:23:19 PM
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Where is some official news?

Price falling slowly but soon the fall will accelerate.
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May 12, 2017, 05:48:25 PM
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Where is some official news?

Price falling slowly but soon the fall will accelerate.


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May 12, 2017, 06:24:20 PM
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So one time Devidend for all Bank of the future Vestors and 2 out of 42 Million Premined Coins getting burned ?

Amazing...



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