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December 20, 2016, 08:56:42 AM
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Pffrt: You sold 10k coins. It's not hard to trade 10k coins without liquidity. When I talk I'm talking about people buying/selling 5+ BTC who can't sell and buy back at the drop of a hat. And of course I'm relaying the positive stuff because the FUDers are only relaying the negatives AND blowing it out of proportion to manipulate people into crashing the price during a period of low volume/liquidity. I don't need to reiterate that stuff. When StartJoin makes progress, I post about it. That's not hype. That's INFORMATION.

I recommended it at 2330 before it went to more than double that price. I even tweeted not to chase it up after 2500. After it peaked and fell to 2000 I said *I* was holding and buying/rebuying on the way down, which I did. I suggested people should hold because I underestimated how much the FUDers would blow things out of proportion and actively suppress the price. And again, you can't just sell 5 or 10 BTC in this environment and reliably expect to buy it back lower. I didn't recommend *buying* again until 1000 sats. Multiple people buying 5 or 10 BTC will NOT be able to buy under 1000 sats (maybe not even under 2000). It's going to be first come, first served, and whoever snatches the small sell wall is probably the only person who will get in at these prices... UNLESS YOU'RE TRADING SMALL AMOUNTS.

So, in short... if you're trading small amounts... I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU. Sell and go, or buy and either lurk or be proactive. I'm not here to waste time arguing with people like you who are trading pennies while misrepresenting my positions and lying about 5x gains.

Actually i had 150k. It WAS worth 5BTC, but when i sold it, it was worth 2.5. HOWEVER, if i wanted to buy it all back, i could do it for 1.5 BTC or even less. Actually, I could easily rebuy 500k and still be at only 60% of the price i sold for. And that's just buying up the order book. If you take into account buying what's being dumped, we easily have 2mil liquidity at ~1k.

How much is your position worth now anyway? You have like 500k? 1mil? Even you could have easily sold and bought back right now at a huge profit.

I think you just completely misjudged the actual worth of the project and hodled too long. Too bad man, sometimes the bears have it at the right end.

On a related note, Karl has stopped responding to me because I think he just considers me someone trying to get inside info (and maybe he's right), so fuck him, I'm going to spill the beans. Here are some things he said...

1) He wants to buy coins and I shouldn't tell anyone... but he already said it out loud in a chat room before he apparently realized it might hurt his chances of buying cheaper. This is why I believe he bought from the premine to fund StartJoin development instead of selling on the market.

2) He's started the hunt for a new "Chief Technology Officer". I don't think he's much happier with StartJoin's launch than the community was and sees the need to improve the team.

3) He said my idea to make START proof of stake to prevent 51% attacks was a good one and he'd be considering it when he got a new CTO.

4) He said similar about my idea to clone a more full-featured coin and just port over the blockchain, because voila... new features, improved wallet, etc. without too much work.

5) When I gave him hell about not supporting the price he replied, and I cut and paste, "If you knew an asset was going to increase its trade volume by 10-20x over the next 12 months would you be overly concerned about supporting the price or would you want price to go lower?" The volume was in the 10-15 BTC range at the time.

6) When I bitched at him about lack of PR and frequent community updates he replied, "I'm committed to making this work. We're going to throw everything at this for 12 months and either be a huge success or burn up in a blaze of glory, but slow incremental approach is now coming to an end."

7) He has plans to partner with AID:Tech, but wouldn't say anything else about it other than a focus on crowdfunding in the developing world. He also hinted at this in public about 6 or 7 weeks ago.

So there you have it. They aren't abandoning the coin and they're going to ramp things up from here and push hard for at least the next year to make this work. I guarantee you're going to see higher prices in the near future.

LOL YOU'RE A WINNER.

also, i'll speak for EVERY FUCKING PERSON HERE when i say WE'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN WE FUCKING SEE IT (that goes for 1. the tech/releases/PR/improved ecosystem whatever the fuck have you and 2. the fucking PRICE!)

not to mention with him inviting many types of questions/comments to his way of speaking......he just sounds like he's on the inside of whoever the fuck whale/hacker or market-maker is railing this coin up and down with price manipulation.  i'm sure as him and that cuck max start their 'hype' phase for 2017...the price will "magically" rebound.  Roll Eyes gee look at that totally convenient timing of buy walls and pump returning just as the sell side thins out lol.

THANK YOU. I happen to completely agree: i'll believe it when i see it. Historically speaking, and that is only looking at the facts, there is a huge chance none of this stuff will ever happen.

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December 20, 2016, 04:23:27 PM
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^ I also agree.

Not sure why crowdwhale your boner is so high and mighty for START.  I wanna see it go to great price too but it just look more sad every week....and every month, like wth?  Why is there no care for it and WHO are the people in control of the tech AND the price?  It's obvious the price is being controlled very heavily and for now it's being put in a grave.  i PRAY we see even 10 cents USD let alone $1 USD.  This coin and project can't even hold bloody 1-2 cents! LMAO.
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December 20, 2016, 05:02:11 PM
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December 20, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
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Welp, there's a subset of people who seem determined to misrepresent the facts, to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone, to suggest the coin is dead while it's being implemented into StartJoin, etc. There's also a silent majority who knows what the facts really are and who are just going about their lives holding the coin while everything comes together. Time for me to join them. See you next month.

Funny how FUDers call me a shill while Karl bitches at me for being critical. Crypto traders are the WORST.

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December 21, 2016, 08:23:44 PM
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Jason what was it you said to make Karl react that way, was it something you said on here ?
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December 21, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
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give me my one dolla coin son

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December 22, 2016, 12:01:17 AM
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to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone,

are you suggesting now Max Keiser isn't part of the project  Huh
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December 22, 2016, 10:57:13 PM
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damn got to say even i thought the bloodbath was over a few days ago  Shocked

guess the problem with something falling to ground floor, is sometimes there's a basement then 3 levels of underground parking  Sad
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December 22, 2016, 11:06:37 PM
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Jason what was it you said to make Karl react that way, was it something you said on here ?

Karl Gay just got dumbfounded about the legitimacy of his own statement, which led to his fellow Jason expressing his confusion the way he did.



He thinks 3 signups and 2 new submissions within a month are enterprise level numbers.
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December 22, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
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to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone,

are you suggesting now Max Keiser isn't part of the project  Huh

None is scamming anyone. They just do not manage to get sufficient traction in this coin. On the recent infowars Max Keiser again promoted StartCoin, its just that people overestimate his influence....

Here is the infowars episode: LINK

Max Talks about StartJoin and StartCoin around 2:40.

So I would say buy StartCoin if you think that Max Keiser will be capable of making this platform great, if not it's better just to sell. I still have some StartCoins. Got a shitload of loss on them, but the volume in this coin is really low. It's just a gamble.

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December 22, 2016, 11:27:36 PM
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to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone,

are you suggesting now Max Keiser isn't part of the project  Huh

None is scamming anyone. They just do not manage to get sufficient traction in this coin. On the recent infowars Max Keiser again promoted StartCoin, its just that people overestimate his influence....

Here is the infowars episode: LINK

Max Talks about StartJoin and StartCoin around 2:40.

So I would say buy StartCoin if you think that Max Keiser will be capable of making this platform great, if not it's better just to sell. I still have some StartCoins. Got a shitload of loss on them, but the volume in this coin is really low. It's just a gamble.

Max Keiser is an attention whore, he advertises humus which he consumes in large quantities after he's done with promotions. I would talk u out of watching interviews with him, listening to radio broadcasts where he's the host, because following him is a disgrace even for self-pity men.
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December 22, 2016, 11:32:12 PM
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to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone,

are you suggesting now Max Keiser isn't part of the project  Huh

None is scamming anyone. They just do not manage to get sufficient traction in this coin. On the recent infowars Max Keiser again promoted StartCoin, its just that people overestimate his influence....

Here is the infowars episode: LINK

Max Talks about StartJoin and StartCoin around 2:40.

So I would say buy StartCoin if you think that Max Keiser will be capable of making this platform great, if not it's better just to sell. I still have some StartCoins. Got a shitload of loss on them, but the volume in this coin is really low. It's just a gamble.

Max Keiser is an attention whore, he advertises humus which he consumes in large quantities after he's done with promotions. I would talk u out of watching interviews with him, listening to radio broadcasts where he's the host, because following him is a disgrace even for self-pity men.

Max Keiser is just Max Keiser. He does not pretend to be anyone else. He never did. He's a weirdo, I agree. But he's famous because he's this weirdo. And being a weirdo is rather subjective and time-related... The thing is that the fact that this coin has Max Keiser gives it more potential than 90% of the other coins out there with their false promises.

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December 23, 2016, 12:32:49 AM
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its just that people overestimate his influence....


The thing is that the fact that this coin has Max Keiser gives it more potential than 90% of the other coins out there with their false promises.



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December 23, 2016, 12:39:32 AM
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when BTC is hitting $860 USD you would expect a blood bath, but it has a bottom,

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December 23, 2016, 01:18:53 AM
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when BTC is hitting $860 USD you would expect a blood bath, but it has a bottom,

tell that too maxcoin holders  Shocked
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December 23, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
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i heard rumors when maxcoin was not yet completely failed that max suggested swapping maxcoin 1:1 for startcoin. well that never happened.

funnily enough though now startcoin is lower then the price i bailed on maxcoin (and i thought i'd bailed on that low), now i could use that bitcoin to buy up startcoin and get better then 1:1   Undecided
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to suggest people who aren't even part of the project are trying to scam everyone,

are you suggesting now Max Keiser isn't part of the project  Huh

None is scamming anyone. They just do not manage to get sufficient traction in this coin. On the recent infowars Max Keiser again promoted StartCoin, its just that people overestimate his influence....

Here is the infowars episode: LINK

Max Talks about StartJoin and StartCoin around 2:40.

So I would say buy StartCoin if you think that Max Keiser will be capable of making this platform great, if not it's better just to sell. I still have some StartCoins. Got a shitload of loss on them, but the volume in this coin is really low. It's just a gamble.

Max Keiser is an attention whore, he advertises humus which he consumes in large quantities after he's done with promotions. I would talk u out of watching interviews with him, listening to radio broadcasts where he's the host, because following him is a disgrace even for self-pity men.

Max Keiser is just Max Keiser. He does not pretend to be anyone else. He never did. He's a weirdo, I agree. But he's famous because he's this weirdo. And being a weirdo is rather subjective and time-related... The thing is that the fact that this coin has Max Keiser gives it more potential than 90% of the other coins out there with their false promises.

If u take all dead presidents out of his Cambodia offshore bank account nobody will recall him in a year from now. Nor will anyone give a flying fuck to how he died or what his face looked like because he contributed nothing to crypto, never needed crypto and never wielded any power to level up this space. That's how famous ur keiser is.
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December 24, 2016, 01:40:33 AM
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man you better hope ppl dont kill themselves re. start investements given btc is going to $1k USD most likely......and start has dumped NON stop.  yes it is the market makers but holy shit....unsure if shakeout or just ths coin/project going to SHIT lmao.  what the fuck kinda leadership is this?HuhHuh

i'd feel like a huge cuck if it were my $$$ and company/brand!


better hope they turn it around for 2017

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December 24, 2016, 06:32:21 PM
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You all talk so much nonsense it's all the more disgusting that you're smug about it. As an honest person I've always had trouble telling when people are stupid or lying, but either way you'll never take responsibility for your FUD when this all predictably plays out exactly as I've described.

You've got...
1. The entire altcoin market in the dumps with even major coins down more than 50%.
2. BTC exploding at the time of year when alts typically slump anyway, compounding the bloodshed.
3. People panic selling into an inactive market at a time when people just aren't buying alts.
4. And yes, a poorly planned StartJoin relaunch that amounts to a temporary, not permanent, setback, but provides great FUD fodder these penny stock pump & dumpers know how to exploit.

Then you've got a dedicated "uncensored" FUD crew...
1. Running several unofficial StartCoin branded Twitter accounts trash talking the project.
2. Running a chat room they hang out in EVERY day for a coin they claim is dead.
3. Running a fake t-shirt business masquerading as an unrelated 3rd party promoting the idea that START being dead is common knowledge... a "done deal"... and basically a meme.
4. Claiming Karl is exit dumping the dev fund as he sells a small portion to *gasp* fund development.
5. Claiming Max is a scammer because he made a call that had no chance of coming true after a hack no one could have predicted.
6. Spreading fear about a 51% attack and then trying to organize one by renting mining capacity when it didn't happen on its own, because it was never going to.
7. Talking about the price they'll rebuy at despite their claims the coin is "dead".
8. Etc, etc, etc.

And what will actually happen? The post holiday altcoin rally will come, just as BTC cools off. StartJoin will finish START integration. Volume will suddenly return. Hundreds of people will decide it's time to buy/rebuy at the exact same time and find only a few BTC for sale. The price will recover practically overnight. Everyone will suddenly change their tune, and FUDers will go silent until the next top and retrace when they'll start the FUD cycle all over again.

Selling now is like auctioning off a family heirloom when the auction house is closed and only one guy is standing outside making you an offer. There's no competition. There's no liquidity. The market is not functioning in any realistic way. How many people can buy a significant amount without tripling the price? A handful, if that. But in a space of hours, when things turn around, everything will look entirely different and all the people who sold at a loss will learn a valuable lesson. Don't listen to liars and bitter fools. Don't trade on emotion. Don't sell at a loss when the market is essentially "on hold". And the entire character of a market, along with the sentiments surrounding it, can change in the blink of an eye.

I've only bought Bitcoin with fiat once in my life... 0.2 BTC in December of 2013. Since then I've only cashed out tens of thousands of dollars and I've never gone bust, though things have looked superficially bleak numerous times just as they do now. I guarantee this time will be no different and if I'm wrong about this I will delete my account. That's not going to happen and anyone with significant experience in these markets knows it.

I also know idiots will come back with more smug comments, accusations of hype, and attempts to appear "wise" as they join in the FUD like sheep and tell everyone "I told you it was a scam". And when I don't respond, because I'm done letting you waste my time, you'll claim I don't have an answer to your nonsense. In the end you'll just disappear like always.

This is all... so... predictable. Watch and learn.
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