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April 11, 2015, 09:23:00 PM
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Great. More community delegates. Smiley

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April 11, 2015, 09:42:01 PM
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O!  Shocked
5 active delegates! Cool
This is true success story of Crypti! Grin
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April 11, 2015, 09:52:48 PM
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O!  Shocked
5 active delegates! Cool
This is true success story of Crypti! Grin

And one truly dedicated troll - starik69  Grin Reminds me about early days of Nxt  Cheesy

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April 11, 2015, 10:07:05 PM
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Keep in mind the foundation delegates couldn't all be initiated / enabled at once in coordination with launch so that's part of why some show lower uptime. We were having an issue with a couple servers In certain countries but we had those downvoted. hopefully the 100% for our new delegates is a good sign!!

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April 11, 2015, 11:50:44 PM
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O!  Shocked
5 active delegates! Cool
This is true success story of Crypti! Grin

The forever troll. You always like to point out this and that..
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April 11, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
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My "unofficial" audit of the 0.2.0 genesis block continues.

The launch Delegates seem to be divided into two categories.  Thirty of them appear to have received their initial funds from the genesis block; 71 did not.

Example of a launch Delegate (MatthewDC_D8) who DID receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/14247409726405533857C

Example of a launch Delegate (Eden) who DID NOT receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/9859538319768690939C

How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

Mal, we have been moving around our votes to help vote on Community members. Just to change votes made by the delegates themself, to votes for Community memebers cost a total of 202 XCR. 101 to remove each delegates vote then another 101 to vote for one of you. These accounts hold balances from fees they earn, Im not sure where your seeing a problem?

It may be a good thing to point out as well, if it's not obvious that some of the accounts had funds in them before becoming delegates. Meaning the accounts where made and a few XCR sent to them while we where on 1.9g

I think the Foundation must eventually publish an official 0.2.0 genesis block listing that shows how Crypti got split among various accounts.  With the existing blockchain tools, we can currently only see how 83M Crypti got split into 1030 accounts.  See:

http://forum.crypti.me/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14&p=29.

I thought this genesis block would trace the flow of all 100M original Crypti.  Now you acknowledge that 71 accounts were sent a relatively small amount of Crypti during 0.1.9g, formed the initial DPoS network, and then the rest of the Crypti was allocated to everybody else via the 0.2.0 genesis block.  This implies the 0.2.0 genesis block will not total up to exactly 100M Crypti, but will be short of that amount by the allocations to the 0.1.9g DPoS delegates.  I understand the chicken-and-egg problem of doing a live changeover from random forger selection in 0.1.9g to DPoS in 0.2.0.  All I'm saying that there eventually needs to be a public accounting of all original Crypti, listing how much  went to 0.9.1g DPoS delegates and how much want to 0.2.0 genesis block account holders.   This should equal 100M Crypti.  Right?
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April 12, 2015, 12:09:57 AM
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My "unofficial" audit of the 0.2.0 genesis block continues.

The launch Delegates seem to be divided into two categories.  Thirty of them appear to have received their initial funds from the genesis block; 71 did not.

Example of a launch Delegate (MatthewDC_D8) who DID receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/14247409726405533857C

Example of a launch Delegate (Eden) who DID NOT receive funding from genesis block 5776140615420062008C :

http://cryptichain.me/address/9859538319768690939C

How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

Mal, we have been moving around our votes to help vote on Community members. Just to change votes made by the delegates themself, to votes for Community memebers cost a total of 202 XCR. 101 to remove each delegates vote then another 101 to vote for one of you. These accounts hold balances from fees they earn, Im not sure where your seeing a problem?

It may be a good thing to point out as well, if it's not obvious that some of the accounts had funds in them before becoming delegates. Meaning the accounts where made and a few XCR sent to them while we where on 1.9g

I think the Foundation must eventually publish an official 0.2.0 genesis block listing that shows how Crypti got split among various accounts.  With the existing blockchain tools, we can currently only see how 83M Crypti got split into 1030 accounts.  See:

http://forum.crypti.me/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14&p=29.

I thought this genesis block would trace the flow of all 100M original Crypti.  Now you acknowledge that 71 accounts were sent a relatively small amount of Crypti during 0.1.9g, formed the initial DPoS network, and then the rest of the Crypti was allocated to everybody else via the 0.2.0 genesis block.  This implies the 0.2.0 genesis block will not total up to exactly 100M Crypti, but will be short of that amount by the allocations to the 0.1.9g DPoS delegates.  I understand the chicken-and-egg problem of doing a live changeover from random forger selection in 0.1.9g to DPoS in 0.2.0.  All I'm saying that there eventually needs to be a public accounting of all original Crypti, listing how much  went to 0.9.1g DPoS delegates and how much want to 0.2.0 genesis block account holders.   This should equal 100M Crypti.  Right?

I can't see how the numbers wouldn't equal 100 million?? As far as I know all accounts and balances were transferred 1 to 1. Is there something showing otherwise?

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April 12, 2015, 03:34:57 AM
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My "unofficial" audit of the 0.2.0 genesis block continues.

The launch Delegates seem to be divided into two categories.  Thirty of them appear to have received their initial funds from the genesis block; 71 did not....How can these 71 of the 0.2.0 launch Delegates have balances of 89-546 XCR yet be listed as not receiving anything from the Genesis block?  I'm not saying there's a problem, I'm just curious.

It may be a good thing to point out as well, if it's not obvious that some of the accounts had funds in them before becoming delegates. Meaning the accounts where made and a few XCR sent to them while we where on 1.9g

I think the Foundation must eventually publish an official 0.2.0 genesis block listing that shows how Crypti got split among various accounts.  With the existing blockchain tools, we can currently only see how 83M Crypti got split into 1030 accounts.  See:

http://forum.crypti.me/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14&p=29.

I thought this genesis block would trace the flow of all 100M original Crypti.  Now you acknowledge that 71 accounts were sent a relatively small amount of Crypti during 0.1.9g, formed the initial DPoS network, and then the rest of the Crypti was allocated to everybody else via the 0.2.0 genesis block.  This implies the 0.2.0 genesis block will not total up to exactly 100M Crypti, but will be short of that amount by the allocations to the 0.1.9g DPoS delegates.  I understand the chicken-and-egg problem of doing a live changeover from random forger selection in 0.1.9g to DPoS in 0.2.0.  All I'm saying that there eventually needs to be a public accounting of all original Crypti, listing how much  went to 0.9.1g DPoS delegates and how much want to 0.2.0 genesis block account holders.   This should equal 100M Crypti.  Right?

I can't see how the numbers wouldn't equal 100 million?? As far as I know all accounts and balances were transferred 1 to 1.

Is there something showing otherwise?

No.  

But to quote a famous Russian proverb:


(lyrically pronounced "doveryai, no proveryai" - in English, "trust, but verify")
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April 12, 2015, 04:26:52 AM
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7. I personally believe the registration fee is too high. This will be an action item at our meeting on Sunday. I intend to propose lowering the registration fee to 1,000 XCR to register a delegate. I will also propose refunding the other 9,000 XCR already paid to those who registered prior to the change. After the meeting we will announce any changes. Like anything, it must come to a vote, so there is no guarantee.

I totally agree.  Nurture and support those who would set up Crypti nodes out of their own pocket and do all you can to make it easy for them.

Another similar topic I hope you discuss in your Sunday meeting is lowering the "second passphrase" registration fee from 100 Crypti to 1 Crypti.  DON'T MAKE BETTER SECURITY EXPENSIVE TO A CRYPTI USER.  When I was in NXT during the early days, I ranted a lot for this feature to be added (I called it an "account freeze code").  To my knowledge it still isn't incorporated into NXT and would have prevented a lot of sadness.  I am thrilled to see this option baselined early on in Crypti.  

Believe me, sometime soon you WILL have your first user who loses all his Crypti from (a) using a weak first password and (b) not using a second password because "it was too expensive".  Believe me, the bad publicity Crypti will get from this incident will not be worth the benefit you currently perceive from charging an extra 100 XCR fee for the second password.    
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April 12, 2015, 11:37:15 AM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin
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April 12, 2015, 11:44:08 AM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

Olivier (karmacoma) and me reported to Boris that we need such a functionality. We will hopefully get it in the next version.

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April 12, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
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BTW, looking at this graph


i think that there could be some memory leak in Crypti client - very little, but stable. Embarrassed
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April 12, 2015, 12:01:28 PM
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BTW, looking at this graph


i think that there could be some memory leak in Crypti client - very little, but stable. Embarrassed

thanks, we will check soon
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April 12, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

Today is the staff meeting..... an API to see the delegate votes and the node votes is in the discussion list.

Uptimes are not ideal....... we are learning much this way.  The uptime is never reset, so runs from the beginning of a delegates entry into the 101 Club.  My delegate, Litoshi, was running on a home computer with a DSL connection, and had really bad latency and thus low forging %.  Then we switched to a hosted server, but it was down for 12 hrs.  That really lowered my % up time.  Now i am hitting 100% of all blocks, but it will take months of 100% to raise my low of 25% to the 90 area.

Two of the newest nodes had latency problems when they were first graduated to the 101 Club.  We watched the delegates go from 100 to 33 to 25 and then up to the 50s.  They seem to have settled in the 75% area, but again, t will take lots of 100% to bring it to the 90s.

I have the same dry sense of humor....... can be hard to tone it down sometimes, especially when the issue is something you are passionate about.

As for your English....... In the US, we are not critical of how foreigners use the language, and actually find it cute and charming at times.  An american will never laugh at your misuse of the language.  Other cultures are not so forgiving.  BTW, "english" is a language in transition to a new language, due to the exposure to the international community and the incorporation of new foreign words, news speak, and acronym usage (CPU, GPU, MPH, DSL).  The new language that is forming from this melding is called TERRAN.

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April 12, 2015, 01:43:52 PM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

Yes, this is correct. These past 2 days I have been closely monitoring my delegate node and have seen it drop down from 100% towards 75%. For now I've switched forging from the virtual servers towards my home computer to try and pinpoint the problem. I'll be working on fixing this all day. I'm also currently running it on a Windows Server Instance, which could be causing some problems.

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April 12, 2015, 01:49:50 PM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

Yes, this is correct. These past 2 days I have been closely monitoring my delegate node and have seen it drop down from 100% towards 75%. For now I've switched forging from the virtual servers towards my home computer to try and pinpoint the problem. I'll be working on fixing this all day. I'm also currently running it on a Windows Server Instance, which could be causing some problems.

We have found that the closer the hosts to the internet backbone, the less the latency.  

We started with delegates on hosts in Amsterdam, which resulted in low % for the stasDelegates.  

Matt moved his to servers near the Google servers in Georgia.  He is on the 90s now.

The 10s blocks are just not home computer connection friendly.

PM Eric (samsmith16) at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303285 and he can help you set up a $5 a month hosted delegate like mine.

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April 12, 2015, 01:53:17 PM
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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

Yes, this is correct. These past 2 days I have been closely monitoring my delegate node and have seen it drop down from 100% towards 75%. For now I've switched forging from the virtual servers towards my home computer to try and pinpoint the problem. I'll be working on fixing this all day. I'm also currently running it on a Windows Server Instance, which could be causing some problems.

We have found that the closer the hosts to the internet backbone, the less the latency.  

We started with delegates on hosts in Amsterdam, which resulted in low % for the stasDelegates.  

Matt moved his to servers near the Google servers in Georgia.  He is on the 90s now.

The 10s blocks are just not home computer connection friendly.


My node is also hosted in Amsterdam, though in a datacenter, not on a home connection, and has not missed a block yet.
Amsterdam is a very central place in internet infrastucture.

EDIT: a single block was missed, yeah i dont know :s


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Is there a way (API?) to see who voted for who? Huh
And today i see uptime numbers for some active delegates are not so good as it could be Cry
how starik69 expresses himself...
First of all english is not my native language. Second - i have (some odd?) sense of humor and can not write without sarcasm Grin

I have the same dry sense of humor....... can be hard to tone it down sometimes, especially when the issue is something you are passionate about.

As for your English....... In the US, we are not critical of how foreigners use the language, and actually find it cute and charming at times.  An american will never laugh at your misuse of the language.  

100% agree that Americans are NOT critical of what non-native-English speakers say or how they say it.  We are mainly in awe that somebody wants to learn and use our language.  

Americans as a group certainly don't work hard at all to learn anybody else's language, and I think that's a big problem.  We are isolated by two oceans, the longest border in the world that we share with another English speaking country, a love-hate relationship with Mexico and a whole lot of smugness.  I would be lost on the Internet without Google Translate and the auto translation feature in the Chrome browser.  I would be lost on world affairs without the British press (Telegraph, Guardian, Daily Mail, etc), The Economist, and the BBC.

And of course, www.zerohedge.com .  Everybody in the world should read Zero Hedge daily.  The comments in particular will do wonders for your dry sense of humor.

    

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April 12, 2015, 02:10:16 PM
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I would like to say while some people think that starik69 is troll, he always finds all the little bugs and bring light to all dark corners that others prefer to ignore.
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April 12, 2015, 02:23:54 PM
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I would like to say while some people think that starik69 is troll, he always finds all the little bugs and bring light to all dark corners that others prefer to ignore.

Yes, its true...... the cockroaches show you where to clean.

Starik69 has had some posts that contributed to the community.  He has a delegate on standby status.  He has only 590000 votes.  half are mine.

He needs more votes.


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