crypti (OP)
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February 01, 2016, 05:15:44 PM |
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So, we opened latest sources, include crypti-js, crypti, and frontend repository. I made some contribution docs, i will still work on it. I was little angry last days, but now i'm ok and what i can say. Here is nothing wrong if Max or Olivier are making their own fork. (Problem is their PR via our channels). At least, last time i didn't have a lot of time to work on Crypti, because maybe they will make some more progress. All published repositories in our github: https://github.com/cryptiI hope, community will take care of it too. I understand, but it is time to move on. It is a very important time for Crypti right now. Not tomorrow, not one week or a month from now. Right now. I believe Crypti needs to sort everything out, and fast. For example, just looking at the original announcement it looks like a mess, the images are not there. Tried the blockchain explorer that is listed ( http://live.crypti.me/) and it is not working. Olivier's fork of the blockchain, Cryptichain.me, was taken down. There are a ton of damages currently affecting Crypti. Right now it's about that time where damage control unit comes out and fixes all of these things. Explorer now on https://cryptichain.lisk.io/ . We will move it when we will get repository back ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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child_harold
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February 01, 2016, 05:36:00 PM |
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So, we opened latest sources, include crypti-js, crypti, and frontend repository.
Good. (mua-ha-ha) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fm.memegen.com%2F8rnl7a.jpg&t=665&c=bCvVdr9Lmqkgig) Max, if you're reading (which you are), be a good chap and sort these matters out, including the 1 million XEM dapps comp prize money which I'm told you hold the keys too.
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patmast3r
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February 01, 2016, 05:37:18 PM |
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So, we opened latest sources, include crypti-js, crypti, and frontend repository.
Good. (mua-ha-ha) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fm.memegen.com%2F8rnl7a.jpg&t=665&c=bCvVdr9Lmqkgig) Max, if you're reading (which you are), be a good chap and sort these matters out, including the 1 million XEM dapps comp prize money which I'm told you hold the keys too. I think you mean XCR price ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Borpf
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February 01, 2016, 05:57:24 PM |
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There are approx. 30 delegate nodes not forging at the moment, what measures are being taken to remedy the problem?
Crypti needs to secure the network as soon as possible.
And those who do and run a node are votet out of Delegates. So I turn it off.
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child_harold
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February 01, 2016, 06:02:44 PM |
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WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF USING CRYPTI OVER ETHEREUM?I'm replying Yes/No/Maybe to what I think can be easily or effectively marketed/promoted, and what really makes Crypti unique. 1. Crypti full nodes run on ARM devices with 512 Mb RAM - this may become much smaller -> IoT ready
Maybe. Sounds a short-term advantage. ETH will have this soon? 2. Back end is written in node.js, Dapps front end may use most of javascript library, CSS, HTML
Yes. Even though front end sounds similar to ETH this must be promoted. Perhaps distinctions to ETH can be made. 3. running dapps on side chains allows scalability by not having every contract run on every node in network.
Yes. And what about Privacy and Cost when using sidechains? 4. DPoS minimizes cost of securing the network
No. ETH will have this (or almost this) soon. 5. integrated storage with Sia
No
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child_harold
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February 01, 2016, 06:07:11 PM Last edit: February 01, 2016, 06:22:22 PM by child_harold |
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That's a good Max EDIT: reading that post now. there's a couple of lines that stick in my throat (and Ive been here less than a week!) but in the interest of peace Ill not call them out. Anyway he has at least closed these matters, so it's moving-on time.
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Bigcabrito
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February 01, 2016, 06:11:35 PM |
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WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF USING CRYPTI OVER ETHEREUM?I'm replying Yes/No/Maybe to what I think can be easily or effectively marketed/promoted, and what really makes Crypti unique. 1. Crypti full nodes run on ARM devices with 512 Mb RAM - this may become much smaller -> IoT ready
Maybe. Sounds a short-term advantage. ETH will have this soon? 2. Back end is written in node.js, Dapps front end may use most of javascript library, CSS, HTML
Yes. Even though front end sounds similar to ETH this must be promoted. Perhaps distinctions to ETH can be made. 3. running dapps on side chains allows scalability by not having every contract run on every node in network.
Yes. And what about Privacy and Cost when using sidechains? 4. DPoS minimizes cost of securing the network
No. ETH will have this (or almost this) soon. 5. integrated storage with Sia
No These are great pointers. The advantages of Crypti over Ethereum need to be relevant.
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Litoshi
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February 01, 2016, 06:54:23 PM |
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I personally think 101 delegates are too much, untill XCR gets bigger.
Can the number of Delegates be lowered? How does it affect the network? Is this something you could decrease and/or increase with ease? It is at 101 to make a 51% attack very hard. Because of the 10 second block time, and the 6-10 confirms for transactions, a large number of forging nodes is necessary to insure that a random set chosen to confirm a transaction are not all trojan nodes designed to steal the XCR or to foul up the network.
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bitseedmike
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February 01, 2016, 07:23:48 PM |
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WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF USING CRYPTI OVER ETHEREUM?I'm replying Yes/No/Maybe to what I think can be easily or effectively marketed/promoted, and what really makes Crypti unique. 1. Crypti full nodes run on ARM devices with 512 Mb RAM - this may become much smaller -> IoT ready
Maybe. Sounds a short-term advantage. ETH will have this soon? 2. Back end is written in node.js, Dapps front end may use most of javascript library, CSS, HTML
Yes. Even though front end sounds similar to ETH this must be promoted. Perhaps distinctions to ETH can be made. 3. running dapps on side chains allows scalability by not having every contract run on every node in network.
Yes. And what about Privacy and Cost when using sidechains? 4. DPoS minimizes cost of securing the network
No. ETH will have this (or almost this) soon. 5. integrated storage with Sia
No These are great pointers. The advantages of Crypti over Ethereum need to be relevant. Yes. Also, I would prefer to focus on Ethereum not really being competitors, but having different applications. For someone who wants to write a simple smart contract from time to time and not dealing with selecting nodes to run it on, Ethereum makes more sense, if a user friendly interface becomes available. For public ledgers requiring super consensus, like property records and SWIFT and BIS type ledgers, ETH might be preferable. To run a dapp which requires a lot of processing power and speed, it makes more sense to run it on Crypti on the nodes of your choice. For IoT applications, Crypti is a much better choice. For distributed storage, prediction markets, mesh networks, secure media distribution on secure VPNs, Crypti is also the ideal solution. If you have links on Ethereum running on smaller nodes, please let me know. I do see advantage lessening as 2 Gb RAM ARM boards become available at the current Raspi 2 price point. On DPoS, Ethereum won't be leaving PoW any time soon.
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GreXX
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February 01, 2016, 07:55:37 PM |
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I'm not sure as to the future. But I think a new community manager is needed.. Someone to provide updates to investors and so on
The new Community Manager will likely be Matthew. He writes with flowing diction and completely comprehends what the devs are doing. On the other hand, he is very busy keeping bad guys out of the Air Force networks. Okay, well if things don't work out Matthew. I may be interested.. If it's not too much work. Regards I think it would be a great idea to get you clued in more on whats going on. You have been a long term supporter and holder and we can use all the help we can get. Let us get things situated and i'll shoot you a PM.
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Bigcabrito
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February 01, 2016, 07:57:45 PM |
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I am still trying to wrap my head around all of this. I need answers to questions.
1. The current versions of Crypti that have been released are 0.5.2 for the Crypti wallet client and 0.5.4 for Delegates, right? 0.5.2 is a "light" version that only allows transactions and 0.5.4 creates new blocks, right?
2. There is a 0.5.5 version under test that has not yet been released to the public, right? Is this a client wallet version for making transactions or a Delegate version that writes to the blockchain?
3. What are the main new features that will go online with 0.5.5?
4. What is the target release date for Crypti 0.5.5?
5. When will Crypti 0.5.5 source code be released via Github?
6. Did Max / Olivier have access to Crypti 0.5.5 code to use it for the basis of a fork? Or will their fork be based on Crypti 0.5.2 / 0.5.4?
Are there concrete answers for these questions?
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crypti (OP)
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February 01, 2016, 08:29:25 PM |
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I am still trying to wrap my head around all of this. I need answers to questions.
1. The current versions of Crypti that have been released are 0.5.2 for the Crypti wallet client and 0.5.4 for Delegates, right? 0.5.2 is a "light" version that only allows transactions and 0.5.4 creates new blocks, right?
2. There is a 0.5.5 version under test that has not yet been released to the public, right? Is this a client wallet version for making transactions or a Delegate version that writes to the blockchain?
3. What are the main new features that will go online with 0.5.5?
4. What is the target release date for Crypti 0.5.5?
5. When will Crypti 0.5.5 source code be released via Github?
6. Did Max / Olivier have access to Crypti 0.5.5 code to use it for the basis of a fork? Or will their fork be based on Crypti 0.5.2 / 0.5.4?
Are there concrete answers for these questions? 1. 0.5.4 doesn't effect lite wallet, so, lite wallet could work with 0.5.4 2. We going to close fast loading for small devices, because Crypti work perfect on devices with slow cpu and ram, but loading of blockchain takes time. And we have latest UI versions that contains mobile view. 3. Already released. All sources, include crypti, frontend, and crypti-js. See my previous messages. 4. Yes, they had access.
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MalReynolds
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February 01, 2016, 09:06:14 PM |
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I personally think 101 delegates are too much, untill XCR gets bigger.
Can the number of Delegates be lowered? How does it affect the network? Is this something you could decrease and/or increase with ease? It is at 101 to make a 51% attack very hard. Because of the 10 second block time, and the 6-10 confirms for transactions, a large number of forging nodes is necessary to insure that a random set chosen to confirm a transaction are not all trojan nodes designed to steal the XCR or to foul up the network. This would be accurate if the 101 Club had 101 individual people running a single server. The current setup, with Olivier running 35 of the 101 servers, not so much. Crypti cannot claim to be secure as long as just a few Foundation members control the top 101 servers - as we have seen. Expanded community involvement is a must. @ bitseed: Need a 2GB ARMv7 board? Take a look at the Odroid XU4: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php
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Wanderlust
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February 01, 2016, 09:25:05 PM |
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I'd like to thank Max You have given this community a kick up the ass To your chagrin or otherwise Max Watch this space
With a bang, not a whimper
Savvy?
Let's do this
PS my biggest concern is this DPOS thing. Seems dangerously complex. PPS if things go well in a short time I will confidently state this is THE most undervalued crypto in this space.
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Wanderlust
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February 01, 2016, 09:37:39 PM |
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Oh
And by the way
This thread is moving
Keep it moving and foundations members be loud and proud
Time to get some
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Bigcabrito
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February 01, 2016, 09:52:54 PM |
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I personally think 101 delegates are too much, untill XCR gets bigger.
Can the number of Delegates be lowered? How does it affect the network? Is this something you could decrease and/or increase with ease? It is at 101 to make a 51% attack very hard. Because of the 10 second block time, and the 6-10 confirms for transactions, a large number of forging nodes is necessary to insure that a random set chosen to confirm a transaction are not all trojan nodes designed to steal the XCR or to foul up the network. This would be accurate if the 101 Club had 101 individual people running a single server. The current setup, with Olivier running 35 of the 101 servers, not so much. Crypti cannot claim to be secure as long as just a few Foundation members control the top 101 servers - as we have seen. Expanded community involvement is a must. @ bitseed: Need a 2GB ARMv7 board? Take a look at the Odroid XU4: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.phpExactly my point. I understand the decentralized aspect of the coin, but if we cannot find those 101 delegates then what's the point? Crypti needs to reconsider every aspect of DPoS, as it is, it's a hindrance more than a success. The same question keeps popping up over and over again, what's the reward of being a delegate (other then to toss Crypti a bone and secure the network)? The fee is too low, forging rewards are lower than $5 a month. There needs to be more incentive in order for people to delegate and join the club. Crypti does not have enough. Also, there needs to be a way to know who is running which delegate. Some kind of trust/verified delegate system to secure the network.
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Litoshi
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February 01, 2016, 10:32:16 PM |
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There is a trust system in place for delegates. DELEGATE VOTING
If you dont know who a delgate is owned by, dont vote for them
If a delegate has lousy up time, vote them down
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Bigcabrito
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February 01, 2016, 10:51:41 PM |
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There is a trust system in place for delegates. DELEGATE VOTING
If you dont know who a delgate is owned by, dont vote for them
If a delegate has lousy up time, vote them down
Exactly, this information should be clearly visible and public when you are in the act of voting. At the moment, it is not. You would need to scour the crippled forums of forum.crypti.me to find who's the owner of which delegate.
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