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[GreXX]

There isn't really a Crypti team anymore. The majority of efforts transitioned to Lisk and with the huge success of their IPO, I imagine anyone who loved Crypti went with them. Boris, as you know, is now with them. As I said before, Crypti cannot die. It's an open source crypto like any other. If you run nodes and keep the network running, it continues to exist.

I see a couple main problems with this direction.

1. Max and Oliver hold 80% or something crazy like that of the XCR in circulation.

2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.

However, I will say this. The success of the Lisk ICO shows that people believe in the core technology we built here at Crypti, it simply never got the buzz or backing and people knew we were almost out of money for development. There is a huge opportunity here for some enterprising developers.

If you know a developer who is good and can understand the source code of Lisk, you could pull back all updates they have made (as Lisk is required to be open source based on the Crypti license they used to take the Crypti Source Code). Any updates they put out to the core source will also be open source. These can all be pulled back into Crypti to keep pace with any developments they make if someone simply steps in and takes over to lead a new more organized Foundation and development effort.

On top of that, you could potentially build side chains / Dapps that would work on Crypti, and could also be implemented into Lisk for additional profit.

The real sticking point is that 80% that Max and Oliver hold. I have no idea what their intentions are but it's highly possible they will hold it as an insurance policy that the Crypti network doesn't rise up to compete.

Hell, if you want to make a go at it, ask them to put all 80 million XCR in a faucet, or have people register to receive free XCR, or some kind of giveaway of XCR for joining a Lisk mailing list or something. If they view it as useless (which they should, they have ass tons of money at this point), then maybe you'll get lucky.

Sorry no one has been around. After everything that went down, I walked away for a little bit to catch my breath. For what it's worth, I am in no way affiliated with Lisk, although I do wish them the best. We spent a lot of time working with those guys and they mean well, are good people, and I know for 100% fact they will do their best to make it a success. Trust me that Lisk will not be some kind of fly by night operation. They will work their asses off to continue to push the envelope and Lisk may well end up being more fully featured than Eth when all is said and done.

[gaba]

So basically wa are all idiots here. Than you GreXX, and thank you Boris. If that is true why don't they buy all Crypti and turn the network off. With 80% in their possession Crypti can't have his own life.

[gaba]

2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.

How? How much is in the Foundation wallet? You only need to somehow override LISK ICO part and these coin will fly with devs. Maybe you can build  something similar to IOTA and ask from left community to support Foundation with 10% of their stake. I will gladly send to Foundation  10% of my (Crypti) coins if the development will continue.

[$dakini]

There isn't really a Crypti team anymore. The majority of efforts transitioned to Lisk and with the huge success of their IPO, I imagine anyone who loved Crypti went with them. Boris, as you know, is now with them. As I said before, Crypti cannot die. It's an open source crypto like any other. If you run nodes and keep the network running, it continues to exist.

I see a couple main problems with this direction.

1. Max and Oliver hold 80% or something crazy like that of the XCR in circulation.

2. There is no development team focused on continuing to develop and push the project, as well as no funds to pay anyone to do so.

However, I will say this. The success of the Lisk ICO shows that people believe in the core technology we built here at Crypti, it simply never got the buzz or backing and people knew we were almost out of money for development. There is a huge opportunity here for some enterprising developers.

If you know a developer who is good and can understand the source code of Lisk, you could pull back all updates they have made (as Lisk is required to be open source based on the Crypti license they used to take the Crypti Source Code). Any updates they put out to the core source will also be open source. These can all be pulled back into Crypti to keep pace with any developments they make if someone simply steps in and takes over to lead a new more organized Foundation and development effort.

On top of that, you could potentially build side chains / Dapps that would work on Crypti, and could also be implemented into Lisk for additional profit.

The real sticking point is that 80% that Max and Oliver hold. I have no idea what their intentions are but it's highly possible they will hold it as an insurance policy that the Crypti network doesn't rise up to compete.

Hell, if you want to make a go at it, ask them to put all 80 million XCR in a faucet, or have people register to receive free XCR, or some kind of giveaway of XCR for joining a Lisk mailing list or something. If they view it as useless (which they should, they have ass tons of money at this point), then maybe you'll get lucky.

Sorry no one has been around. After everything that went down, I walked away for a little bit to catch my breath. For what it's worth, I am in no way affiliated with Lisk, although I do wish them the best. We spent a lot of time working with those guys and they mean well, are good people, and I know for 100% fact they will do their best to make it a success. Trust me that Lisk will not be some kind of fly by night operation. They will work their asses off to continue to push the envelope and Lisk may well end up being more fully featured than Eth when all is said and done.

If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

[gaba]

If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

It would be fair. We'll see.

[$dakini]

If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

It would be fair. We'll see.

Crypti still needs some devs to take them forward.

[YNWA2806]

Why is that? the current platform can ran forever, in case of development no need as i can see the develop further..put all forces to Lisk

[freshman777]

Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

[YNWA2806]

Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

Here you've got 4.5
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C

[jim32]

Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.........................	..............Amount ...................	..............Total % ...................	..............Notes ...................	..............Link ...................
11895248518193822011C	55,013,892 XCR	55.01%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C	25,728,806 XCR	25.73%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C	9,577,731 XCR	9.58%	Poloniex.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C	4,459,507 XCR	4.46%	Bter.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C	1,004,568 XCR	1%	user1
13301325309114698830C	586,994 XCR	0.59%	user2
3946744674132627468C	430,510 XCR	0.43%	user3

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[freshman777]

Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.........................	..............Amount ...................	..............Total % ...................	..............Notes ...................	..............Link ...................
11895248518193822011C	55,013,892 XCR	55.01%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C	25,728,806 XCR	25.73%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C	9,577,731 XCR	9.58%	Poloniex.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C	4,459,507 XCR	4.46%	Bter.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C	1,004,568 XCR	1%	user1
13301325309114698830C	586,994 XCR	0.59%	user2
3946744674132627468C	430,510 XCR	0.43%	user3

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no i mean start a new blockchain with all coins but the ones in Lisk ICO accounts.

[jim32]

Who has the skills to make a snapshot of balances excluding the 80 million coins and fork Crypti off to a new Genesis?

Crypti Top Accounts - https://cryptichain.lisk.io/topAccounts

TOP7 Crypti Accounts

..............Address.........................	..............Amount ...................	..............Total % ...................	..............Notes ...................	..............Link ...................
11895248518193822011C	55,013,892 XCR	55.01%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11895248518193822011C
11032798712936002952C	25,728,806 XCR	25.73%	Lisk ICO	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/11032798712936002952C
1064014217195323888C	9,577,731 XCR	9.58%	Poloniex.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/1064014217195323888C
983470101446368718C	4,459,507 XCR	4.46%	Bter.com	https://cryptichain.lisk.io/address/983470101446368718C
5187059935254926083C	1,004,568 XCR	1%	user1
13301325309114698830C	586,994 XCR	0.59%	user2
3946744674132627468C	430,510 XCR	0.43%	user3

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no i mean start a new blockchain with all coins but the ones in Lisk ICO accounts.

You need to add few lines of code (and upload to github) - block to send/receive XCR from two Lisk ICO addresses - 11895248518193822011C and 11032798712936002952C

You can speak with Boris Povod (crypti developer) -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=336778


Lisk team (2 lisk developers) owns 80.74% crypti. It is bad - fully crypti centralization and they can easy crypti price manipulate.

I agree with you, only one correct way exists - block or burn all 80,000,000 crypti from lisk ICO.

Crypti should have own way without Lisk team involvement.

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[poornamelessme]

If they burn their 80% stake, crypti can still go on.

I wondered if they might burn some of their coins, but then realized... what benefit would it be to them?

They burn their coins, XCR rises in price... but they won't benefit, as they burned their coins. XCR would then be deemed a competitor to Lisk.

If they hold their coins, they could do several things. First, just let XCR die. It's a competitor in a way, so that's an indirect benefit.

They sell half to a dev who wants to take over XCR. It's an insane amount for two parties to hold in a coin, but it could result in at least sustaining things for a while. Then they can sell small amounts over a long period of time. XCR would never truly succeed however, as it's like never-ending sell pressure (if not from the Lisk devs, then the new XCR dev).

They just sell what they can, hold onto what they have... if XCR lives, they do the never-ending sell pressure thing and just get what they can out of it.

There are several possible scenarios, but not very many that make sense for the Lisk devs that also results in XCR succeeding longterm. In fact, I see no logical reason for them to do anything with their XCR besides sell what they can of it. Maybe a whale or two would pay them pennies on the dollar for their XCR, then whales use the XCR as a pump mechanism ... but again, that's not healthy for the coin longterm.

[gaba]

Boris and what is left from the Foundation suddenly changed their course. It's clear form their blog posts and silence here. Obviously they smell the money. With all that BTC Max can't be that stupid to left somebody important from Crypti team. If he do that than maybe Crypti will live. Boris is in good position   he can ask crazy salary from Max or just big stake in LISK. If BTC start to grow now as many expect LISK will be remembered as last big ICO (in BTC terms). They had perfect timing.

[skrtel37]

If Boris joins the Lisk and get himself big stake or salary, than good for him, he earned it....it would totally natural and expected

[sotisoti]

Let's start from the beginning.

Before Lisk there was/is Crypti. Crypti stayed at a marketcap of 500k and even lower for years, because nobody gave a shit about it. All of a sudden two guys from Crypti announced that they will stop developing for it and, unhappy with the way it was advancing, forked out Crypti and renamed their project to Lisk.

For a few days both parties were unhappy about it and the main developer Boris (who's still not responding much) swore that he would stay and continue the development for Crypti, telling us that Lisk has nothing to do with it.

Anyways, just like i suspected a few weeks ago, the scammer Boris and his crew kept this confusion going for a long time (avoiding answers), while they were buying Lisk like crazy, even though they were dismissing it at the beginning. The temptation of gaining fast bitcoins through a second ICO (lol) was too big for our friend Boris and, after he lost all his morals, he made the announcement that he will stop developing for Crypti and switch to Lisk.

What you see now in Lisk is in fact the same TEAM from Crypti ROFL, just that somehow they've managed to fool enough idiots so that the project could rise 6x in a few weeks, taking Crypti from 500k to now 3M for Lisk.

These guys never added anything on top of the fork. It is exactly the same project. Only promises and that's about it. Who knows what other shady things these guys did. They've probably even faked the ICO numbers on their website just to create more hype.

Good luck

I'm only an advisor at Lisk and do not work there, but I wish the team good luck.

I'm focusing on my own blockchain 2.0 project, which we will announce soon

Boris seems to be working on another project, but I am not entirely sure about it. If there's an ICO for that, I will definitely show my support

[skrtel37]

Let's start from the beginning.

Before Lisk there was/is Crypti. Crypti stayed at a marketcap of 500k and even lower for years, because nobody gave a shit about it. All of a sudden two guys from Crypti announced that they will stop developing for it and, unhappy with the way it was advancing, forked out Crypti and renamed their project to Lisk.

For a few days both parties were unhappy about it and the main developer Boris (who's still not responding much) swore that he would stay and continue the development for Crypti, telling us that Lisk has nothing to do with it.

Anyways, just like i suspected a few weeks ago, the scammer Boris and his crew kept this confusion going for a long time (avoiding answers), while they were buying Lisk like crazy, even though they were dismissing it at the beginning. The temptation of gaining fast bitcoins through a second ICO (lol) was too big for our friend Boris and, after he lost all his morals, he made the announcement that he will stop developing for Crypti and switch to Lisk.

What you see now in Lisk is in fact the same TEAM from Crypti ROFL, just that somehow they've managed to fool enough idiots so that the project could rise 6x in a few weeks, taking Crypti from 500k to now 3M for Lisk.

These guys never added anything on top of the fork. It is exactly the same project. Only promises and that's about it. Who knows what other shady things these guys did. They've probably even faked the ICO numbers on their website just to create more hype.

Good luck

I'm only an advisor at Lisk and do not work there, but I wish the team good luck.

I'm focusing on my own blockchain 2.0 project, which we will announce soon

Boris seems to be working on another project, but I am not entirely sure about it. If there's an ICO for that, I will definitely show my support

Same here

[gaba]

Let's start from the beginning.

Before Lisk there was/is Crypti. Crypti stayed at a marketcap of 500k and even lower for years, because nobody gave a shit about it. All of a sudden two guys from Crypti announced that they will stop developing for it and, unhappy with the way it was advancing, forked out Crypti and renamed their project to Lisk.

....

I'm only an advisor at Lisk and do not work there, but I wish the team good luck.

I'm focusing on my own blockchain 2.0 project, which we will announce soon

Boris seems to be working on another project, but I am not entirely sure about it. If there's an ICO for that, I will definitely show my support

Same here

We will see if Boris is honest guy  . I didn't switch my XCR for LISK because of these.

[crypti]

As i've already mentioned i'm only advisor at Lisk. I don't work for Lisk, just advice them sometimes when i have time and questions from them.

I'm working on my own project right now, i'm going to make announce soon.

Regarding new blockchain for Crypti, i'm not sure it's fair.

[freshman777]

As i've already mentioned i'm only advisor at Lisk. I don't work for Lisk, just advice them sometimes when i have time and questions from them.

I'm working on my own project right now, i'm going to make announce soon.

Regarding new blockchain for Crypti, i'm not sure it's fair.

You are not under legal obligation not to fork Crypti as you please, are you?