Passion_ltc
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August 15, 2014, 01:07:21 PM |
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Guys, Bter has shown in the past that they will not run away with the money! The 750 BTC from the IPO are safe!
If they close down, some other escrow will receive the money and Crypti will look for another exchange!
Don't you know how things work? They lost 50million NXT and paid the hacker 100 BTC. Probably not from their own money but from our money. Just like a normal bank they have a small percentage 'own' money compared to 'lend' money. Probably even less then a normal bank. What's going on now is a proper bankrun. Everybody tried to withdraw their BTC and will do when it's possible again. Now BTER can't pay everyone back because they lack own funds and will go bankrupt. Or do you think they've got thousands of BTC 'owned'. I know exactly how things work. Infact they paid 110BTC to the hacker. The also have a coldstorage of BTC with enough funds.
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S3MKi
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August 15, 2014, 01:08:48 PM |
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don't panicsell guys!
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megashira1
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August 15, 2014, 01:09:10 PM |
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hope BTER just defaults on the NXT and pays out all amount owing before closing.
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michaelb87
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August 15, 2014, 01:09:19 PM |
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Guys, Bter has shown in the past that they will not run away with the money! The 750 BTC from the IPO are safe!
If they close down, some other escrow will receive the money and Crypti will look for another exchange!
Don't you know how things work? They lost 50million NXT and paid the hacker 100 BTC. Probably not from their own money but from our money. Just like a normal bank they have a small percentage 'own' money compared to 'lend' money. Probably even less then a normal bank. What's going on now is a proper bankrun. Everybody tried to withdraw their BTC and will do when it's possible again. Now BTER can't pay everyone back because they lack own funds and will go bankrupt. Or do you think they've got thousands of BTC 'owned'. I know exactly how things work. Infact they paid 110BTC to the hacker. The also have a coldstorage of BTC with enough funds. Well I certainly hope so because they hijacked my BTC. But I'm not to positive about this. Easy way out is to go bankrupt. Paying everybody from their own money and being left with a worthless (trustless) exchange doesn't sound to good either. Who will prosecute them if they say bye bye? Nobody...
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michaelb87
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August 15, 2014, 01:10:44 PM |
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hope BTER just defaults on the NXT and pays out all amount owing before closing.
Should have been the way to go. But now the BTER fuckers paid the hacker 100+ BTC in a complete panick mode and stopped all withdrawals from user (= no trust anymore). They made a complete shit of it while they just needed to accept the NXT loss...
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michaelb87
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August 15, 2014, 01:14:44 PM |
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Reply from BTER: I am really sorry for this. Several hours ago one of our hosting accounts was hacked and the hacker got 50m NXT from this server. It's totally our fault and we are trying our best to cover all the loss. However 50m nxt is huge for us, we cannot afford it at the moment. All the nxt is till in his address at http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=1244396688755618309We are trying to get help from the dev and the community to agree to rollback the blockchain to 3-4 hours ago. We are going to cover all the loss due the rollback. Best, Lin @ Bter ----------------------------------- As you can see, they can't even cover the stolen NXT. Let alone the extra BTC they transferred and all withdrawals that are held
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Passion_ltc
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August 15, 2014, 01:15:53 PM |
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Reply from BTER: I am really sorry for this. Several hours ago one of our hosting accounts was hacked and the hacker got 50m NXT from this server. It's totally our fault and we are trying our best to cover all the loss. However 50m nxt is huge for us, we cannot afford it at the moment. All the nxt is till in his address at http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=ac&ac=1244396688755618309We are trying to get help from the dev and the community to agree to rollback the blockchain to 3-4 hours ago. We are going to cover all the loss due the rollback. Best, Lin @ Bter ----------------------------------- As you can see, they can't even cover the stolen NXT. Let alone the extra BTC they transferred and all withdrawals that are held "Can't even cover the stolen NXT". Yes, this is more than $1.5M!! The 750BTC are peanuts in comparison to that.
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megashira1
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August 15, 2014, 01:15:57 PM |
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I've been fucked over so many times in crypto its unbelievable.
We are living in the dark ages my friends.
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informer
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August 15, 2014, 01:16:04 PM |
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I don't know why everyone is saying they can't withdraw BTC from BTER, I just tried and I can. I just can't make the all important deposit at this time.
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TiberiuC
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August 15, 2014, 01:16:08 PM |
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At this point holding XCR on bter is safer than BTC. Don't know what people are thinking...
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Passion_ltc
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August 15, 2014, 01:17:18 PM |
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I don't know why everyone is saying they can't withdraw BTC from BTER, I just tried and I can. I just can't make the all important deposit at this time. It should be processing, but not coming through.
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TiberiuC
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August 15, 2014, 01:17:44 PM |
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I don't know why everyone is saying they can't withdraw BTC from BTER, I just tried and I can. I just can't make the all important deposit at this time. whas it confirmed?
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michaelb87
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August 15, 2014, 01:19:13 PM |
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I don't know why everyone is saying they can't withdraw BTC from BTER, I just tried and I can. I just can't make the all important deposit at this time. They won't process it...
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megashira1
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August 15, 2014, 01:19:32 PM |
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nothings processing. they halted withdrawals folks.
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michaelb87
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August 15, 2014, 01:19:50 PM |
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Transaction 10300383179285907441 Type Arbitrary Message Date Fri Aug 15 2014 15:44:24 GMT+0200 (Central Europe Daylight Time) From NXT-QF9S-ABNV-VLJ9-98ZPQ To NXT-8WJ7-8A2H-MBYN-3W9K4 Amount 0 NXT Fee 1 NXT Confirmations 10 Deadline 1440 Block 12140470868482800321 Arbitrary Message Message: Let me present myself. I am a professional investor. I own several million NXT, one of them being on this account. I also own thousands of bitcoins, plus large sums in dollars, stocks, and physical gold. I am announcing here that if for some reason you guys (BTER, the small fish trying to buy the NXT from you, and yourself) screw the deal, then I will have to step up personnally. This can hurt NXT a lot, a make me lose over $1M of NXT investments, but I can assure you that if this happens, I will personnally make sure you end up in jail. And will spend whatever money you end up costing me to track you down for this specific purpose. So, to all: Stop panicking. Let's do thing clear and cut. Do your part of the deal, negociate with BTER. End of story. Thanks for reading. And think.
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Kevinrasf
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August 15, 2014, 01:21:35 PM |
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At this point holding XCR on bter is safer than BTC. Don't know what people are thinking...
I feel the same about this. Just holding onto XCR and buying some extra @ 1050 sats
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Quantumtangles
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August 15, 2014, 01:25:04 PM |
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nothings processing. they halted withdrawals folks.
Correct. I converted all my XCR to BTC about an hour and half ago and withdrew the resulting BTC to a secure external wallet. However, BTER indicates that the withdrawal is still 'processing' which means at this point that withdrawals have been frozen. I feel so bad for the Crypti devs, investors, traders and all you guys. I am in the same boat. Hope it works out for all of us. Big love.
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megashira1
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August 15, 2014, 01:28:05 PM |
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nothings processing. they halted withdrawals folks.
Correct. I converted all my XCR to BTC about an hour and half ago and withdrew the resulting BTC to a secure external wallet. However, BTER indicates that the withdrawal is still 'processing' which means at this point that withdrawals have been frozen. I feel so bad for the Crypti devs, investors, traders and all you guys. I am in the same boat. Hope it works out for all of us. Big love. If the situation turns out well you get screwed as you have undersold your crypti and cannot get back in.
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studio1one
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August 15, 2014, 01:29:37 PM |
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so happy I am not one of the XCR team right now, must be stressful
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TiberiuC
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August 15, 2014, 01:30:48 PM |
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I have a feeling Crypti team might have to "donate" a part of their presale earnings.
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