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You didn't considered the presupposition that the machines will only be sent after 10th of July.
It's better to receive a working and fully tested machine on 15 of July than receive a new not fully tested machine on 15 of July.
The question is not if it's better to have a new not fully tested machine on 5 of July versus having a fully tested machine on 15 of July.
The date of shipping doesn't matter in the context of the conversation, and the reason for the shipping date has already been attributed to BITMAIN not having production PCBs in house until tonight. Further, what exactly constitutes "working and fully tested"? Your proposition is that BITMAIN should hold your unit for 10 days to burn in test because then you're likely to receive a good working unit. My argument is that burning in for 10 days vs 1 day does not greatly decrease the probability that you receive bum HW. Wasting 9 days burning in the machine costs you, the end-user, hugely. If you don't agree then how about BITMAIN sends me your barely tested HW and I'll burn-test it for 10 days before sending it off to you. yeah, HW can fail on 1st day, 1st month, 5th month... or never... who knows when its going to fail |
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dropt
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July 08, 2014, 06:54:55 PM |
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yeah, HW can fail on 1st day, 1st month, 5th month... or never... who knows when its going to fail
IIRC the probability that a HW device will fail on day X is independent of how many days it's been running. Granted that was assuming an ideal model. |
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July 08, 2014, 07:03:44 PM
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yeah, HW can fail on 1st day, 1st month, 5th month... or never... who knows when its going to fail
IIRC the probability that a HW device will fail on day X is independent of how many days it's been running. Granted that was assuming an ideal model. True, and also bitmain gives you a 90 day warranty, so there shouldnt be any problems. (atleast not from bad manufacturing ...) |
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July 08, 2014, 08:00:40 PM |
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So you would much rather them mine for themselves during the most profitable period of time the S3 is likely to ever see instead of giving it to you so you can take home those earnings?
You don't need to mine with HW for 10 days to know it's good to go. When you buy a car, does it have 10,000KM (or miles) on it in lieu of "factory testing"? Of course not.
Bitmain bases the price on the delivery window/profit potential, earlier delivery would just have increased price so potential roi would not have been affected much, they almost decrease price as fast as they would have mined (just look at B1,2,3). If Bitmain promises a delivery date that you pay for and then delays shipment to use the hardware to mine for themselves while you wait, then you can start complaining. But S3 terms were very clear, 10-20th of July shipment window, that's what you pay for and are entitled to, if they had the gear before that or not and were using it as counterweight in their giant trebuchet or mines with it really does not concern you, as long as they deliver what they promised at the time of your purchase their obligations to you are fulfilled. With that established would you rather the delivered S3s to be already calculated into current diff or be a new addition of hash power accelerating the growth and reducing profits? |
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July 08, 2014, 08:03:33 PM |
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I'm Looking for damaged/not working S1's Please PM (UK only)
(sorry if this is in the wrong thread)
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BTc donations welcome:- 13c2KuzWCaWFTXF171Zn1HrKhMYARPKv97
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Bitkoinzz
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July 09, 2014, 01:59:32 AM |
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BATCH 3 SOLD OUT?
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July 09, 2014, 03:06:47 AM |
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What does this mean?
Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.
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Bitkoinzz
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July 09, 2014, 03:13:11 AM |
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What does this mean?
Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.
It means you cant use two different power supplies for one S3 |
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July 09, 2014, 03:17:47 AM |
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What does this mean?
Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.
It means you cant use two different power supplies for one S3 on the same board - if designed like the s1 it should have 2 boards. 1 power supply could work on 1 on the right and 1 could work on the left. However, it'd just be recommended to get 1 power supply that has enough pci-e connectors to do the job and power the miner. |
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July 09, 2014, 05:07:27 AM |
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What does this mean?
Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.
It means you cant use two different power supplies for one S3 Antminer S3 is packet with 2 PCI-E slots in each PCB(blade). You may connect one blade with a psu and the other blade with another psu. Then just link the common of both. There is no power loaded from controller to 1 blade or viceversa so its safe to use 2 PSUs. There will be no harm in doing it. But never ever connect the PCI-E connector of one PSU to a blade and a PCI-E connector of another PSU to the same blade. That's what the statement means. |
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July 09, 2014, 05:08:35 AM |
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What does this mean?
Don’t parallel connected different DC input from different PSU into the same Hashing board.
If you are using two psu's on your s3 , then make sure that each psu is only powering one blade. NOT HALF OF EACH BLADE |
BTc donations welcome:- 13c2KuzWCaWFTXF171Zn1HrKhMYARPKv97
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July 09, 2014, 07:02:23 AM |
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looks like batch 3 is also sol out.
and I finally decided to order 4 units, lol
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jelin1984
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July 09, 2014, 10:40:06 AM |
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did anyone received tracking number of batch 1?
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vortexz
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July 09, 2014, 11:00:26 AM |
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when is starting batch 4 ? I want to order some units but b3 is SO  |
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July 09, 2014, 11:19:55 AM |
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did they ship yet ? , did they ship yet ? , did they ship yet ?
i know , the 14th
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July 09, 2014, 11:31:37 AM |
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did they ship yet ? , did they ship yet ? , did they ship yet ?
i know , the 14th
just checked my batch 1 orders still not shipped |
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Bitkoinzz
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July 09, 2014, 01:10:22 PM |
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BITMAIN PLEASE ADVISE US.............WHEN WILL SALES OPEN AGAIN>? .................THANK YOU
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July 09, 2014, 02:01:53 PM |
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@ BITMAIN
what about S4 ( someting based on S3) ?
Like 4 or 5 THs in box like S2?
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July 09, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
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@ BITMAIN
what about S4 ( someting based on S3) ?
Like 4 or 5 THs in box like S2?
The upgrade cards for the S2 are being engineered, and I imagine that will usher in an S4 unit with said cards. With lower power consumption, they should be able to create a more dense product with the same PSU, more or less. That's all conjecture on my part, minus the bit where they stated they are working on S2 upgrade cards, which is in the OP. 1. Will there be upgrade parts for S1 and S2?
Yes, there will be. But we still need to solve some production/testing problem before we finalize the plan and public it. |
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