[OFFLINE]P2Pmining.com-Hybrid P2Pool-NO FEE!!!-BTC/NMC/IXC/I0C/DEV/LTC

[Smoovious]

JayCoin's motives were noble I'm sure but I never quite got the point of joining a pool that's nothing more than a node in p2pool.  It defeats the whole purpose of p2pool  which is DDOS-resistance.

P2Pmining's focus was 2-pronged...

First, it allowed smaller miners to still participate with p2pool without the big variance headache.

P2Pmining would earn shares of its own on the p2pool network, same as any miner, but it also ran its own share system, to further subdivide the p2pool payouts proportionally among the P2Pmining userbase.

This worked well for small miners that only had a couple hundred MH/s to work with.

The other focus was it also facilitated merge-mining for the userbase, saving them from having to run 4 or 5 different daemons at the same time on top of their own p2pool node.

IMHO, P2Pmining was nice to have. I usually had my miners set up to round-robin between my own p2pool instance, P2Pmining, and BTCGuild. What P2Pmining offered me at the time was that it was also merge-mining DVC, which I couldn't merge-mine locally as there wasn't a windows binary daemon for it, although there is one now.

As more ASICs hit the scene, P2Pmining would have become even more important for GPU miners, who are finding it harder to hold onto the shares they generate as their orphan rate climbs.

(the TRC p2pool was having this problem when I got fed up and segregated my own TRC p2pool network so it didn't touch the main network... some very high hash miners just kept orphaning 75-80% of my shares, sometimes a whole minute later, and there weren't any more than 7 or 8 connected nodes at the time. Latency of basically empty blocks and a small p2pool network, shouldn't have been an issue at all, but those high rate miners just overwhelm the lower rate ones... and I can't confirm it,  but I also think one of them was intentionally ignoring shares of others, only building on their own, but that is beyond this topic)

P2Pmining just helped with scale. As the p2pool network difficulty climbs, P2Pmining was a way to still offer lower difficulty shares without having to have the whole p2pool network change to accommodate it.

-- Smoov

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[bitpop]

How do you merge mine when we only provide btc address?

[daemondazz]

I have set up http://cryptominer.org/ which I'm intending for other people, such as those with lower hash rates to join.

It's still being built (only started it 24 hours ago) and I don't have per-user stats or merged mining yet, but is on the TODO list. I haven't made any other announcements yet due to not being completed. Servers are in Adelaide, Australia.

[theprofileth]

I have set up http://cryptominer.org/ which I'm intending for other people, such as those with lower hash rates to join.

It's still being built (only started it 24 hours ago) and I don't have per-user stats or merged mining yet, but is on the TODO list. I haven't made any other announcements yet due to not being completed. Servers are in Adelaide, Australia.

Count me in, I can dedicate my 0.5 GH/s to this cause.
Edit: Cool #6 locally

[daemondazz]

Cool, welcome
I was trying to work out who the 6th client was!

[theprofileth]

So how exactly are payouts done? Is it the standard p2p 24hour average of the hashrate? Or is it DGM or PPLNS? I assume its not proportional.
Or do you essentially just collect the pay from P2Pool as if the pool were one unit and then distribute the pay based on effort or some form like that?

[daemondazz]

At the moment it's a straight p2pool node, so payments should go directly to your address, the same as any other p2pool node.

[theprofileth]

At the moment it's a straight p2pool node, so payments should go directly to your address, the same as any other p2pool node.

Ok cool just checking.
BTW you should probably make your own thread.

[Smoovious]

How do you merge mine when we only provide btc address?

The way P2Pmining did it, the site would keep track of merge mined payouts by your BTC address, internally.

To get your payouts of the other coin, you would change your other coin payout addresses, by signing the message using your BTC mining address, which only you can do successfully, which is how the site knew it was you, and a valid change.

-- Smoov

[JayCoin]

If anyone wants the original p2pmining code, PM me your email.  It may be difficult to setup because I don't have a copy of the Mysql database that the site runs on and my commenting is very sparse. Lots of optimization needs to be done also.

[hanti]

not true :/
im pmed u week ago and u ignored me

[daemondazz]

not true :/
im pmed u week ago and u ignored me

Ditto

[JayCoin]

I sent copies out to everyone today who PM'd me.

daemondazz - you didn't put your email in your PM.

[hanti]

thx got it

[flowice]

I sent copies out to everyone today who PM'd me.

daemondazz - you didn't put your email in your PM.

I've PM'd u,thx.

[eroxors]

I'd like a copy of the source, I thought I PM'd but I guess not.

I'm interested if anyone is doing a private merged pool based on Jay's code, it seems like the public-facing nature of the pool was its downfall, sadly.

[daemondazz]

I replied via PM to him back on the 5th May and not received anything yet. Don't hold your breath.

[JayCoin]

Link to code http://serason.com/p2pmining.zip

You will need to build the database by inspecting the code. Shouldn't be too hard. Haven't updated p2pool code edits since stratum was implemented.

Enjoy

[flowice]

Link to code http://serason.com/p2pmining.zip

You will need to build the database by inspecting the code. Shouldn't be too hard. Haven't updated p2pool code edits since stratum was implemented.

Enjoy

thx.

[daemondazz]

Thanks for proving me wrong