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[IamNotSure]

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[PocketRocketsCasino]

Here's an update on why the site is currently down.

There was some unexpected server issues last night that caused a couple of the virtual machines to go offline.
This happens now and again and it's usually easy to just bring them back on. This can cause downtime from a few minutes to an hour.

I posted in the chat that the site would be down 30-40 minutes just to give some time to make sure everything was fine.

However while this was being done I found a critical bug.

I saw that profits from players losses were not being distributed to investments properly and that the total bankroll had increased when it shouldn't have.

Unfortunately I don't have much more detail at this time as I am still looking into the issue.

As soon as I find the problem and fix it the site will go live again and you can then withdraw all your balance or divest if you choose.

Hope to be back online within the next 12 hours.

Will post updates as soon as I have more information.

[BayAreaCoins]

Really? Dean and his band of merry degens think you are the anti-christ.

gave me crabs, genital warts, and maple syrup drippings?

Sometimes it is the people you love most who gives you these things

[finnile]

Curious , is it also the case for players who win on the site (investments reducing by wrong amounts from investors) ?

Anyways Dean, got a suggestion.
Blame it on me 

[dooglus]

However while this was being done I found a critical bug.

I saw that profits from players losses were not being distributed to investments properly and that the total bankroll had increased when it shouldn't have.

Unfortunately I don't have much more detail at this time as I am still looking into the issue.

As soon as I find the problem and fix it the site will go live again and you can then withdraw all your balance or divest if you choose.

My offer still stands:

What's the problem?

Is it anything I can help with?

It sounds like it is indeed something I can help with. I'm here if you need help fixing your bug.

I hope this doesn't turn into a casinobit style mess for investors.

If the bankroll is higher than actual coins held, investors will have presumably been able to withdraw more than their fair share of the real coins, leaving the house somewhat insolvent. That's what happened at casinobit, and it didn't end well.

Well done for shutting down the site while you investigate. That's something casinobit never did.

[dooglus]

Is Doog trying to get access to PRC's RNG to beat the site, could Doog be Mateo and was hired by manL and he created a loophole in the system, is Doog also Nakowa, wait is Doog Deb

I just don't want to see another bunch of BTC investors get fucked over due to incompetence.

[best360noscope]

Is Doog trying to get access to PRC's RNG to beat the site, could Doog be Mateo and was hired by manL and he created a loophole in the system, is Doog also Nakowa, wait is Doog Deb

I just don't want to see another bunch of BTC investors get fucked over due to incompetence.

Yeah, like that one time a huge whale had a 1000btc freeroll because of an incompetent site owner. All paid by the investors of course. Glad he's not around anymore!

[dooglus]

Yeah, like that one time a huge whale had a 1000btc freeroll because of an incompetent site owner. All paid by the investors of course. Glad he's not around anymore!

It was 1300 BTC, and he lost so nobody paid anything.

Troll harder.

[PocketRocketsCasino]

What's the problem?

Is it anything I can help with?

It sounds like it is indeed something I can help with. I'm here if you need help fixing your bug.

I hope this doesn't turn into a casinobit style mess for investors.

If the bankroll is higher than actual coins held, investors will have presumably been able to withdraw more than their fair share of the real coins, leaving the house somewhat insolvent. That's what happened at casinobit, and it didn't end well.

Well done for shutting down the site while you investigate. That's something casinobit never did.

Thanks.
That is the worry, that investors could withdraw more than the real amount they had in.
I still need to check if that happened and if last night was an isolated incident or not.
I'll post more here later.

[PocketRocketsCasino]

Thanks.
That is the worry, that investors could withdraw more than the real amount they had in.
I still need to check if that happened and if last night was an isolated incident or not.
I'll post more here later.

Isnt this something we discussed in the past in this very thread in regards of how you did your wallets, with the investments pulling from the cold wallets and hot wallets making everything add correctly.

HOW THE FUCK CAN WE TRUST A CASINO'S MATH IF THE OWNER CANT ADD?

Not related in the slightest. Troll harder or understand what you're even trying to talk about.

[finnile]

What's the problem?

Is it anything I can help with?

It sounds like it is indeed something I can help with. I'm here if you need help fixing your bug.

I hope this doesn't turn into a casinobit style mess for investors.

If the bankroll is higher than actual coins held, investors will have presumably been able to withdraw more than their fair share of the real coins, leaving the house somewhat insolvent. That's what happened at casinobit, and it didn't end well.

Well done for shutting down the site while you investigate. That's something casinobit never did.

Thanks.
That is the worry, that investors could withdraw more than the real amount they had in.
I still need to check if that happened and if last night was an isolated incident or not.
I'll post more here later.

Thing is you can always get away by saying it was an isolated event. Its the same thing what DB did at first, saying finnile was the only case. But later when people actually started checking for missing nonces, a lot more came up.

" That is the worry, that investors could withdraw more than the real amount they had in. " No it is not the only worry. They could also be getting a smaller amount than they are supposed to. While AK miner was betting last night, the total investment went from around 740 to 800 something BTC. And this was when the profits went from 65 BTC to 55 BTC, if the profit was not spread to the investors evenly and this happened. It would mean, they would be getting a smaller amount.

[dooglus]

While AK miner was betting last night, the total investment went from around 740 to 800 something BTC. And this was when the profits went from 65 BTC to 55 BTC, if the profit was not spread to the investors evenly and this happened. It would mean, they would be getting a smaller amount.

I don't gather stats very often - usually just once per day - so it's hard to tell what happened.

Here's what I have though:

Sun Sep 14 09:46:02 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,481,494    Total Wagered:20,961.26123047        Total Profit: 43.45820931        Total Invested:693.96138399
Mon Sep 15 08:31:18 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,623,039    Total Wagered:21,650.00383396        Total Profit:  0.18380911        Total Invested:725.80908230
Tue Sep 16 11:35:59 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,801,497    Total Wagered:24,044.02811243        Total Profit:-56.28617105        Total Invested:774.09619051
Wed Sep 17 07:41:32 PDT 2014    Pocket Rockets Casino is offline temporarily while updates are being made.

From Sun to Mon, profit went DOWN by 43 while investment went UP by 32.
From Mon to Tue, profit went DOWN by 56 while investment went UP by 49.

It could be people see the house losing and (incorrectly) figure that means it is due for a win, and so invest more. Or it could be due to the bug that Dean is looking into.

Edit: I should say that it's quite normal for "invested" to stay the same while profit goes up or down because often the losses come from an investor divesting and playing, and winnings are often invested back into the house. So we shouldn't expect to see the bankroll drop just because the site profit dropped - unless we know that the winning player didn't reinvest his profits.

[a1choi]

Hopefully AK got his coins out and the investors learn a valuable lesson.

I thought AK already got his coins out already?  unless he deposited them again?

[dooglus]

I thought AK already got his coins out already?  unless he deposited them again?

Come to think of it I think that's right.

I saw him in the ninja chat saying that peerbet (?) was the only place he was having trouble withdrawing from.

[IamNotSure]

While AK miner was betting last night, the total investment went from around 740 to 800 something BTC. And this was when the profits went from 65 BTC to 55 BTC, if the profit was not spread to the investors evenly and this happened. It would mean, they would be getting a smaller amount.

I don't gather stats very often - usually just once per day - so it's hard to tell what happened.

Here's what I have though:

Sun Sep 14 09:46:02 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,481,494    Total Wagered:20,961.26123047        Total Profit: 43.45820931        Total Invested:693.96138399
Mon Sep 15 08:31:18 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,623,039    Total Wagered:21,650.00383396        Total Profit:  0.18380911        Total Invested:725.80908230
Tue Sep 16 11:35:59 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,801,497    Total Wagered:24,044.02811243        Total Profit:-56.28617105        Total Invested:774.09619051
Wed Sep 17 07:41:32 PDT 2014    Pocket Rockets Casino is offline temporarily while updates are being made.

From Sun to Mon, profit went DOWN by 43 while investment went UP by 32.
From Mon to Tue, profit went DOWN by 56 while investment went UP by 49.

It could be people see the house losing and (incorrectly) figure that means it is due for a win, and so invest more. Or it could be due to the bug that Dean is looking into.

Edit: I should say that it's quite normal for "invested" to stay the same while profit goes up or down because often the losses come from an investor divesting and playing, and winnings are often invested back into the house. So we shouldn't expect to see the bankroll drop just because the site profit dropped - unless we know that the winning player didn't reinvest his profits.

You have more data here

https://sites.google.com/site/prcdicestats/dynamic

[PocketRocketsCasino]

While AK miner was betting last night, the total investment went from around 740 to 800 something BTC. And this was when the profits went from 65 BTC to 55 BTC, if the profit was not spread to the investors evenly and this happened. It would mean, they would be getting a smaller amount.

I don't gather stats very often - usually just once per day - so it's hard to tell what happened.

Here's what I have though:

Sun Sep 14 09:46:02 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,481,494    Total Wagered:20,961.26123047        Total Profit: 43.45820931        Total Invested:693.96138399
Mon Sep 15 08:31:18 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,623,039    Total Wagered:21,650.00383396        Total Profit:  0.18380911        Total Invested:725.80908230
Tue Sep 16 11:35:59 PDT 2014    Total Bets:8,801,497    Total Wagered:24,044.02811243        Total Profit:-56.28617105        Total Invested:774.09619051
Wed Sep 17 07:41:32 PDT 2014    Pocket Rockets Casino is offline temporarily while updates are being made.

From Sun to Mon, profit went DOWN by 43 while investment went UP by 32.
From Mon to Tue, profit went DOWN by 56 while investment went UP by 49.

It could be people see the house losing and (incorrectly) figure that means it is due for a win, and so invest more. Or it could be due to the bug that Dean is looking into.

Edit: I should say that it's quite normal for "invested" to stay the same while profit goes up or down because often the losses come from an investor divesting and playing, and winnings are often invested back into the house. So we shouldn't expect to see the bankroll drop just because the site profit dropped - unless we know that the winning player didn't reinvest his profits.

Those stats look around what is expected. Users were playing on their own investment and also others, who deposited, invested.

It was after your last capture that the bankroll went to over 800 while not long before it was around 740 so it's within that time frame that the issue happened.

I have identified the actual code issue and managed to reproduce and fix it.

I now need to correct the bankroll and investments before I put the site live and allow people to cash out.

I thought AK already got his coins out already?  unless he deposited them again?

Come to think of it I think that's right.

I saw him in the ninja chat saying that peerbet (?) was the only place he was having trouble withdrawing from.

Hopefully not much longer now.

[finnile]

Hopefully AK got his coins out and the investors learn a valuable lesson.

I thought AK already got his coins out already?  unless he deposited them again?

He withdrew and lost around 20-30 coins at bitdice.

You have more data here

https://sites.google.com/site/prcdicestats/dynamic

So I zoomed into the stat(site profit) , It never shows the site touched 65 BTC. Is is because of the intervals it checks the site for profits?

[wayshegoes]

Imagine that, a site owner fixing a bug himself without the help of the self-professed Bitcoin God dooglus, and everyone is getting sorted out.

No need for the smart retort though. We're sure if you still owned a casino this probably wouldn't happen. Probably.

[dooglus]

It was after your last capture that the bankroll went to over 800 while not long before it was around 740 so it's within that time frame that the issue happened.

I have identified the actual code issue and managed to reproduce and fix it.

What was the issue?

Here are screenshots of dreama's charts for the period in question:

[dooglus]

Imagine that, a site owner fixing a bug himself without the help of the self-professed Bitcoin God dooglus, and everyone is getting sorted out.

No need for the smart retort though. We're sure if you still owned a casino this probably wouldn't happen. Probably.

Are you mad about something? You seem mad.

I was offering to help Dean fix a problem that has caused his site to be down for over 12 hours. Sorry if that offends you in some way.