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May 14, 2011, 08:53:15 PM
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I have my account with mybitcoin.
There's your problem.
See the first post, specifically this:
WARNING: Generations won't show up on your MtGox/MyBitcoin/etc. balance, so make sure you use the address of a standalone client for payouts. (thanks theymos!)

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May 14, 2011, 11:56:34 PM
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Connections on port 80 are currently being refused for me.
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May 15, 2011, 07:38:59 AM
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Edit: this is outdated, see this post : http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=6667.msg125918#msg125918

I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/<your_address>, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !

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May 15, 2011, 10:00:59 AM
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Setup guide for 6990 cards!! Windows 7 x64 for lukes pool

Ok guys, just spent a little time trying to find the best values for my 6990 - I have had many differing hash rates dependant on settins, ad on this card it can go from 290mh/s to what im at now 400mh/s

To start with i downloaded the newest Phoenix miner: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6458.0

I then extracted straight to my c:\ drive with folder phoenix : c:\phoenix

Once the files are extracted i got to work with the settings, firing straight up i got a lowly 300mh/s but trawled through this thread, made various changes and got myself up!

I decided to create a .bat file so i could run it from the desktop - starting both cores of the 6990 at the same time.

How to Create a .bat file

Right click on your desktop and create a new txt document - i.e notepad

Call it whatever you want, you need to now (if you already dont have the setting enabled) make sure the file type is displayed for the document so you can modify it.

If you need to enable that simply go to folder options and untick "hide known filetypes"

rename the ".txt" document to ".bat"

Right click the now .bat file and select edit, it will look just like a notepad file, now you can start typing.

Here is what mine looks like - you can copy and paste this into it, but remeber to put your settings in Smiley

start /DC:\phoenix phoenix.exe -u http://yourwalletaddress:x@pool.bitcoin.dashjr.org:8337 -k poclbm DEVICE=0 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP AGGRESSION=11 WORKSIZE=128
start /DC:\phoenix phoenix.exe -u http://yourwalletaddress:x@pool.bitcoin.dashjr.org:8337 -k poclbm DEVICE=1 VECTORS BFI_INT FASTLOOP AGGRESSION=11 WORKSIZE=128


The above settings will get you mining on lukejrs pool Eligius @ around 400mh/s with 925 core on the graphics card.

Save the .bat file and run it from the desktop Smiley

Just thought it might help some newbie miners (like me) without taking up loads of time.

Final Thoughts

My main gains came from going from BFI_INT* to just BFI_INT without the "*" and setting my worksize to 128 - the aggression always helps too, however id only use the aggression above if your letting your pc just mine, if not, drop it to 6 or 7, makes the PC much more useable Smiley

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May 15, 2011, 10:03:54 AM
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I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/<your_address>, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !

cool tool, thanks!

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May 15, 2011, 10:25:56 AM
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Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.
This is somehow expected, as the value (as far as I got it) is combined of: Fixed amount of BTC from past rounds + variable (changing/proportional) amount of BTC from this round. Every time a round ends, the value kinda gets frozen and on top of that, the new variable amount is placed.

Example: .30 BTC from previous rounds, this round I have 1% of shares (=0.50 BTC) --> ~0.80 BTC displayed. As soon as a block is found, I still continue to have 1% of hashing power, so I still have 1% of shares --> ~1.30 BTC displayed. If I stopped immediately after a few shares, this value would go down to a minimum of ~0.80BTC again over time, as others are still producing shares, but I am no longer doing that.

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May 15, 2011, 10:36:03 AM
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Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.
This is somehow expected, as the value (as far as I got it) is combined of: Fixed amount of BTC from past rounds + variable (changing/proportional) amount of BTC from this round. Every time a round ends, the value kinda gets frozen and on top of that, the new variable amount is placed.

Example: .30 BTC from previous rounds, this round I have 1% of shares (=0.50 BTC) --> ~0.80 BTC displayed. As soon as a block is found, I still continue to have 1% of hashing power, so I still have 1% of shares --> ~1.30 BTC displayed. If I stopped immediately after a few shares, this value would go down to a minimum of ~0.80BTC again over time, as others are still producing shares, but I am no longer doing that.

Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you for the explanation!

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May 15, 2011, 03:14:03 PM
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Final Thoughts

My main gains came from going from BFI_INT* to just BFI_INT without the "*" and setting my worksize to 128 - the aggression always helps too, however id only use the aggression above if your letting your pc just mine, if not, drop it to 6 or 7, makes the PC much more useable Smiley
The asterisk in BFI_INT has never been part of the option itself but a remark that this option is only valid for some ATI/AMD cards (5xxx and 69xx). The remark text was lost somewhere in between all those blind copy & pastes of the sample command lines.

By the way, did you try the Phateus kernel? It gives some visible hash rate bump on my dual 5870 miner rig. The kernel is optimized for 5870 and reported as being slower on 6970 but your mileage may vary.

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May 15, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
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I was feeling bored yesterday, so I did a little program to see the balance of addresses in the pool, with a nice graph.

It's similar to the coin-control thing, but it only shows the balance (no shares / MH/s) and a graph.
How to see it ? Just go to http://eligius.artefact2.com/<your_address>, for example : http://eligius.artefact2.com/1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ
The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

Keep in mind : this is hosted at home with a modest upload speed. If you have access to something better and you like this, maybe we could make an arrangement Smiley
You can see the source at : http://eligius.artefact2.com/index.phps http://eligius.artefact2.com/update.phps (yes, it's really 2 files).

If you have feedback or issues, feel free to report them (here, or by email, my address is on the main page). If you like it and would like to donate a little something, my address is 1E3TCp3ETwLzxGARwirmzXjdA8DVnVzYmZ. Thanks !

Wow, nice. I am so glad that you created this as another user's version is down at the moment. I will switch to monitoring with this. Also thanks for sharing the source. I will put it up online on my dedicated server as a backup.

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May 15, 2011, 04:52:15 PM
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Hi guys. I have an update in regards to my experience with this pool.

I was previously having major connectivity and stale share issues with guiminer (poclbm) so it occured to me to try phoenix 1.47 and I'm glad to report that the number of stale/rejected shares is now within acceptible limits. As for the connectivity issues, I haven't had any so far - but I only switched back to Eligius today. I will keep an eye on it and report back.

I would also recommend those of you that use the Phoenix miner to swap the kernel for the phatk one..err..that is only if you have a 5870 or 5970. The modified kernel works equally well on both cards (as 5970 is 2 5870s in 1 basically). I get 371 Mhash on average with average with aggression level 7. I used to get 350 top.

So you do the math Smiley

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May 15, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
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The graph shows some "Unknown" values (ie that appear to be zero), but that's just that the API thing was unavailible at that moment. Also, the variations seem a bit weird, I'd expect something more continuous, but it appears to do some big jumps only when a block is found.

It's not continuous because once a block is going your share of it doesn't change much, assuming everyone keeps a mostly constant rate.

It jumps right after getting a new block because the initial stats are noisy and dominated by the miners luck in finding shares at that moment, also because the rate changes that happened late in the last round are no longer diluted by lots of pre-existing shares.

It would also be neat to follow the blockchain and add up all the eligius payouts for the address on the same graph.


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May 15, 2011, 05:52:25 PM
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What happened to luke.dashjr.org? It's down and no JSON stats are available though the RPC server seems to work fine.

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May 15, 2011, 06:03:05 PM
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What happened to luke.dashjr.org? It's down and no JSON stats are available though the RPC server seems to work fine.

Damn that explains why the graph on the stats page does not update (see link a few posts back) Sad I thought it was just lag. Should've hunted through the thread to find the json stats link.

Dammit without some sort of stats I don't feel comfortable mining for this pool. *Sigh* I guess it's back to a non experimental pool I go.


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May 15, 2011, 07:31:11 PM
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Cant seem to pull my stats anymore from coin control now, any ideas

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May 15, 2011, 08:21:27 PM
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It would also be neat to follow the blockchain and add up all the eligius payouts for the address on the same graph.

I agree, but that looks like a lot of work for a feature that is not very useful. Also, with time, the current balance wouldn't be as readable because of the scaling.

Wow, nice. I am so glad that you created this as another user's version is down at the moment. I will switch to monitoring with this. Also thanks for sharing the source. I will put it up online on my dedicated server as a backup.

Cool! Don't forget to set up the cron jobs properly (I currently run "update.php update" every 5 min, and "update.php graph" every 30 min). I also put a .htaccess to do some URL rewriting (redirect everything that doesn't begin with index.php or graphs/ to index.php) and control the expiration cache (to help saving my already-poor up bandwidth), I set the graph's expiration date to Modification time + 30 minutes so that if you refresh the page, but the graph was not updated, you won't reload the image. Smiley

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May 15, 2011, 08:28:07 PM
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it seems to be working now, stats pages that is. also, I got a generated payout 5/15/2011 12:45

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May 15, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
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....and, it's down again.

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It would also be neat to follow the blockchain and add up all the eligius payouts for the address on the same graph.

I agree, but that looks like a lot of work for a feature that is not very useful. Also, with time, the current balance wouldn't be as readable because of the scaling.

Wow, nice. I am so glad that you created this as another user's version is down at the moment. I will switch to monitoring with this. Also thanks for sharing the source. I will put it up online on my dedicated server as a backup.

Cool! Don't forget to set up the cron jobs properly (I currently run "update.php update" every 5 min, and "update.php graph" every 30 min). I also put a .htaccess to do some URL rewriting (redirect everything that doesn't begin with index.php or graphs/ to index.php) and control the expiration cache (to help saving my already-poor up bandwidth), I set the graph's expiration date to Modification time + 30 minutes so that if you refresh the page, but the graph was not updated, you won't reload the image. Smiley

Thanks for the tip! If Eligius stabilizes I may make the graph page public so everyone can benefit (I got cheap bandwidth anyways).

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May 16, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
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Since it's been a while since my last update, I just wanted to say that I am working on improving stability. At the same time, I am also working on some new features including a server in Europe for Eligius. It is currently running independent of the US server, and open to testing on eu.mining.eligius.st (but be aware, it's possibly less stable than the US server right now). I am also considering whether it will be possible to combine/merge the two continents' pools, so they assist each other rather than compete (as they do currently). This might require delaying payouts 1 block. I would appreciate everyone's opinion on whether a 1 block delay would be acceptable, and whether combining the pools is even something desirable.

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May 16, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
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IMHO combining the pools is desirable if it leads to better overall system stability and reliability. I for one would not mind the 1 block delay. As long as I can have trust in the pool's server and accurate stats reporting I'm happy Smiley

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