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Author Topic: [350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome  (Read 110065 times)
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June 24, 2011, 04:23:40 PM
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The artefact2 stats appear to be bugged (or maybe it's the eligius api): The block found "15 hours ago", round duration 2h 1m 26s, 000000000000001f0dcaf8ff5607dcecc6c7aabc2cf3c723cb116b5bdd05906e, is shown as "valid" in the "Recent blocks and rewards" table, although it is not found at blockexplorer.com and the reward was definitely not added to my balance.

Gentakin is right, this block is listed as valid in the EU log, but it is not valid. Is the hash incorrect? Did Eligius reward us for an invalid block?

Yes, it's a bug. I'm working on it but it's not as easy as it looks like.

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June 24, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
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Voting is now open!

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June 24, 2011, 08:34:48 PM
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It's a good idea to let the users decide which payment method will be used.
But ... I'd be a lot more happy if the pool becomes more stable and has less downtime. A lot of hashing power is lost due to disconnects, idle miners and complete takedowns :/ Please, work on that - I really like eligius.st
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June 24, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
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It's a good idea to let the users decide which payment method will be used.
But ... I'd be a lot more happy if the pool becomes more stable and has less downtime. A lot of hashing power is lost due to disconnects, idle miners and complete takedowns :/ Please, work on that - I really like eligius.st
+1. The invalid blocks are probably the biggest waste. If these can be reduced, that would be great.

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June 24, 2011, 11:17:23 PM
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When do the outstanding us-server funds get paid-off? Does the 1 week waiting period work there?
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June 25, 2011, 01:56:29 AM
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I have to admit that things look a little bumpy right now. I was seeing a notable amount of corrupted shares, and was worrying that I had some hardware problem... but then I looked at a few other user stats and concluded that it's probably not a local problem.

Would whatever is causing this also be the reason for the high proportion of invalid blocks the last day or so?

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June 25, 2011, 02:16:32 AM
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25 hours, and we just got another invalid block...   Undecided

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June 25, 2011, 06:35:19 AM
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And another one.
4 out of 10 are invalid now.

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June 25, 2011, 09:19:13 AM
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yeah lol wtf is going on. I went to bed, woke up 10 hours later and I have less bitcoinage then when I went to sleep. at 350 gh/s thats gotta be like what 10 million shares for over a day and no valid blocks found. Smells fishy.
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June 25, 2011, 09:32:56 AM
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i never liked the fact that US and EU Server work completely seperated and work on different blocks. Then the US Server was testing around with a new payout method wich finally broke the whole US Server. Everyone was on the EU Server after that, wich was not that bad. But i have seen alot more stale and corrupted shares since everyone came to the EU Server. Maybe to much load for one server?
Finally the EU Server was goin down too. And now i am asked to vote for payout systems wich i don't realy understand completely.

After all i had to move to a different pool now. I'm realy sorry about that as i generally liked the st. eligius pool.

I hope you get back to a stable system soon with all servers working on the same block. I will surely come back then, but for now.. Bye Bye St.Eligius Sad
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June 25, 2011, 11:09:27 AM
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i never liked the fact that US and EU Server work completely seperated and work on different blocks. Then the US Server was testing around with a new payout method wich finally broke the whole US Server. Everyone was on the EU Server after that, wich was not that bad. But i have seen alot more stale and corrupted shares since everyone came to the EU Server. Maybe to much load for one server?
Finally the EU Server was goin down too. And now i am asked to vote for payout systems wich i don't realy understand completely.

After all i had to move to a different pool now. I'm realy sorry about that as i generally liked the st. eligius pool.

I hope you get back to a stable system soon with all servers working on the same block. I will surely come back then, but for now.. Bye Bye St.Eligius Sad
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June 25, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
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I'm in the same boat for now. The productive value of my GPU is running out by the hour, so I need to get as much out of it as soon as possible. I don't understand what is causing all of the invalid blocks, and haven't seen any explanation for that. Until the pool is upgraded, I will be going to a different one.

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June 25, 2011, 01:12:52 PM
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what is a causing a block to be invalid anyways?

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June 25, 2011, 01:15:37 PM
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Somebody else found it first. Now, this should be avoided by propagating new blocks rather quickly, but if the network is too slow or split you might advance the blockchain with your block only to find out 5 blocks down the road that the network adopted another blockchain. That's when your block (and everything else that built upon it) becomes invalid.

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June 25, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
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If this happened two times in a row , probably there is some problem?
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June 25, 2011, 03:54:16 PM
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yeah lol wtf is going on. I went to bed, woke up 10 hours later and I have less bitcoinage then when I went to sleep. at 350 gh/s thats gotta be like what 10 million shares for over a day and no valid blocks found. Smells fishy.
Maybe the operator is testing his new "system" like he did to us on the us server a while ago that resulted in eligius "borrowing" a bunch of btc from usserver users. (citations in previous posts)

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June 25, 2011, 09:43:17 PM
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Maybe you need to cut him some slack as he is managing this pool in his spare time. If you decide to make mining a business (where it's all about profit), maybe this is not the right pool for you.

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June 26, 2011, 10:12:39 AM
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I made a new minor feature for the stats, it just shows the number of shares in the current round, and its CDF (Cumulative Distribution Function).
The percentage represents the probability that a block should have been found given the number of submitted shares in this round.



Also, the picture doesn't show it, but there's a nice "realtime" effect Tongue

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June 26, 2011, 11:29:34 PM
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Working hard on getting Eligius upgraded. Will need to drop some planned features, though. Main goal right now is optimization and SMPPS.

The Europe pool's SSD has finally nearly run out of space, so I plan to shut it down as soon as it finds its next block or the new pool is ready, whichever is later. That block's coinbase is hard-coded to pay out the smallest 901 balances, and I will be making a manual payout or transferring balances to the new pool for the rest later. If Europe finds a block before the new pool is ready, it will keep running, just to not waste hashing power, but it will probably never find another block after that one, so any work after the next block on Europe will be wasted unless we're extremely lucky. In short, do not expect payment on future Europe-pool work after this next block.

Stay tuned on IRC. I will probably also post an update to Artefact2's stats site when things change over.

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June 27, 2011, 12:10:30 AM
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Expected payout seems to have gone down to zero for the current block. Yellow line on graph still as expected, though. Did the SSD burst, or is Artefact2 poking around at the stats?

Not complaining, just not in irc so I'm posting here in case someone has news to report back from chat. I like the concept of the pool (especially the lack of hackable accounts), so keep up the good work. Smiley

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